Side by side placement of ukranian flag and palestinian flag

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/14/soho-theatre-bans-comedian-paul-currie-jewish-audience-members

Interesting situation: side by side placement of the flags.

It’s the bit, should a person on stage start arguing with the crowd? Should members of the audience object to flags on stage?

Sorry but the misrepresentation and or deliberate misinterpretation of facts is becoming tiresome.

At no point did I say that the standing ovation was for the flag and it was most likely for the show. However the failure of the particular audience member to stand then created this incident.

Lastly it's a bit sad that a comedian has to ask his audience for a standing ovation as I thought these things were spontaneous and not on request.

@1dayatatime I was replying to @Humdingerydoo who said "You don't get to decide that someone is "racist against Palestinians" for not standing up for their flag"

@inkworks273 You cannot demand anyone to stand up for a flag of any country.
To put it into perspective for you: Would you clap for a banner stating "bring the hostages home"? Based on the direction of all your posts on this board I'm guessing you wouldn't. So how can you be not understanding that an Israeli who may have lost family and friends on October 7th is unwilling to applaud the Palestinian flag.

Soho Theatre have banned him.

@inkworks273

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Yeah and I think the idea that feeling passionate excuses you is nonsensical. I could feel passionate about BLM but it doesn’t mean I’m allowed to throw a white person out of the room, or a black person who disagrees with critical race theory. In fact, when you watch videos of the Nuremberg rallies Hitler was pretty passionate.

"If the white person was being racist then I think it would be reasonable to throw them out."

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Please don't misrepresent or deliberately misinterpret @Shelaugh post - her point was that although she feels passionate about BLM it would not be appropriate to throw a white person out of the room based solely on her passionate support of BLM.

At no point did she mention the theoretical white person was being racist, although nice try on trying to bring the racism angle in as well.

@niceandnew "You cannot demand anyone to stand up for a flag of any country."

Once again he wasn't asked to stand up for the Palestinian flag.

"Would you clap for a banner stating "bring the hostages home"?"

Of course I would. Why wouldn't I? They are innocent people who have done nothing wrong. Of course I want them released.

Good. Hopefully his career is now over.

@inkworks273 I have written this on both of your threads to be clear.
'May they all pay for what they have done'
Members of the IDF are hostages.

I don't understand? Can you clarify?

So you yourself don’t believe Israel has the right to exist, you just don’t have a problem with anyone who does? Ok then.

@25milesfromhome Please don't put words in my mouth. I believe in a 2 state solution.

It’s irritating when someone else makes assumptions about your feelings, opinions and morals based on the things you say, isn’t it?

Not really.

Sure it isn’t. You felt the need to correct me immediately because it doesn’t bother you at all.

@inkworks273

"Would you clap for a banner stating "bring the hostages home"?"

Of course I would. Why wouldn't I? T

On another thread you said 'you hoped the IDF pay for everything they have done'

Some of the hostages are members of the IDF including women.

Doesn't sound like you would be doing much clapping?

It WASN'T about the flags, what rubbish.

The man didn't stand and clap the flags, his choice. The 'comedian ' started abusing him. Told him to leave the fucking theatre. Encouraged inciment of hatred. The crowd joined in. The men felt intimidated.

A few in the row behind realised it was wrong and also left.

The ones joining in also showed hatred for a man in the UK who was nothing to do with the war. They poured hate on him because he was Jewish.

Disgusting behaviour from lots of the audience and the comedian should be charged by the police for a hate crime.

Good. Tge should ban tge baying audience members too.

The venue said Jewish attenders were “subjected to verbal abuse”.
In a statement, the theatre said Currie “aggressively demanded” Jewish members of the audience leave. “Such appalling actions are unacceptable and have no place on our stages, now or ever,” it said. “We will not be inviting Paul Currie back to perform at our venue.”
Currie was approached for comment.
According to a witness who gave an account to the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA), Currie placed a Ukrainian and a Palestinian flag on the stage, and later in the show invited audience members to stand and applaud.
The Metropolitan police said on Monday it was aware of the incident and that inquiries were ongoing.

This.

In my comment you're referring to I was talking about the IDF soldiers who forced clinicians to leave the hospital at gun point, assuring them that help would be given to the babies they were treating, and then just left them to die a slow painful death.

When I said I hope they pay for what they have done I was talking about the solders who did that. I hope all soldiers who have committed war crimes pay for what they have done.

It doesn't mean I don't want the hostages released. Be they soldiers or civilians.

@inkworks273 it's not ok to harass and intimidate someone for not giving a standing ovation. Regardless of the reason for the man not standing up, Paul Currie's actions are indefensible, yet here you are, still attempting to defend and excuse it.

The Israeli man had a right not to stand up. Paul Currie had no right to act the way he did.

I guess I just have other things to be outraged about. This isn't even really a blimp on the radar for me compared to everything else going on.

Like the other poster said we're just going round in circles now so I will leave it at that.

It clearly is a major blip on the radar for you since you have spent 24 hours arguing about it and trying to minimise it while defending the offender.

It's ok to just admit that you were wrong rather than pretend you now think we're going around in circles when actually, you have simply run out of excuses. I tell my primary school age child all the time that it's better to just admit you're wrong rather than keep coming up with more excuses all the time.

@Humdingerydoo I don't think I'm wrong though. A genocide supporter was told to leave a theatre. That doesn't outrage me in the least. As I said earlier, if more evidence comes out that proves that he was thrown out because he was Jewish then I will condemn the comedian. Until then I don't have much more to say on the matter.

"Genocide supporter"? You spelled "Israeli citizen" wrong and your rhetoric is dangerous.