Side by side placement of ukranian flag and palestinian flag

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/14/soho-theatre-bans-comedian-paul-currie-jewish-audience-members

Interesting situation: side by side placement of the flags.

It’s the bit, should a person on stage start arguing with the crowd? Should members of the audience object to flags on stage?

In the same way that, based on what I have read so far, Curry’s rant was anti Israeli, not antisemitic.

I would be horrified and sickened if my government responded to that by indiscriminately killing tens upon tens of thousands of civilians, half of them children.

People are not supporting terrorists. They are supporting Palestinian civilians.

Displaying flags from other countries at war in Britain is a mistake. Britain is diverse and has people from many different cultures and it's polarising to display something that suggests taking a side.

Thanks for clarifying. I guess I’ll wait to see if more information comes out before forming an opinion. Like did Paul Currie know the person was Jewish? If the person was hounded out because he was Jewish then that is abhorrent. On the other hand, if he was hounded out because he is a genocide supporter then I’d say that’s fair enough.

Yes, you do so. You sit around and wait and give Paul Currie the benefit of the doubt.

But to clarify, are you saying that if he was hounded out for being Israeli that's ok because all Israelis are genocide supporters? 🤔

The Palestinian people are not at war though are they? They are being penned in like animals and having bombs dropped on them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with people in Britain showing support for them by displaying the Palestinian flag.

@Humdingerydoo No that is absolutely not what I am saying.

I would never generalise an entire group like that.

This isn't about a display of the Palestinian flag. Nobody here is complaining that a private individual is displaying any foreign flag on their own private property.

This is a comedy show. It is not a place to fly flags. It is outrageous to demand that audience members who have come to watch a show stand in ovation to any flag. It is even more outrageous to single out and argue with and heckle audience members who refuse to do so.

@inkworks273 I understand why people do, but my honest opinion is that of course, in a diverse society, this causes problems. Everyone who lives in the UK should only get behind the British flag, because that is what unites us. It is fine to disagree with military action - and I understand that war may be inaccurate for this situation, just unsure what else to call it - but I think we need peace and unity here in Britain, not to import the full force of partisan feeling here.

Imo excuse there is no excuse, ever, for:

singling someone out due to their religion, nationality, ethnicity, political opinions and then

inciting a mob to shout at that person until he is driven from the venue.

It is particularly awful when that person is Jewish because of the general persecution they face, but it’s still bad even if it’s just someone disagreeing with you politically. We live in a pluralistic democracy, we can’t persecute people for disagreeing with us.

Yeah I mean this is literally what totalitarian states do: force people to salute/applaud/stand for a flag or symbol. That’s why images of Nazi Germany of full of people doing the hitler salute.

What if someone supports the Israeli military and doesn’t believe that it’s genocide? Should we harass people who disagree with us even if they do support genocide? Is that what happens in a civilised democracy?

Definitely should not happen in a civilised society which is why, as I am aware, he is being investigated for his actions.

Not standing and clapping is the opposite of making a fuss.

Jesus Christ. Yes we absolutely should call out people who support genocide.

why are Palestinians terrorists?

They weren't "making a fuss"

The so called comedian asked him directly why he wasn't standing up for the Palestinians flag and he answered because he was Israeli

Cue the sheep in the crowd turning on him

That's according to the original complaint, not from the man they all rounded on, but from an observer who was disgusted and left

And also call out people who are just sitting and not joining in, according to you?

@inkworks273 What further information do you need before forming your opinion?

So what were you saying when you said "If the person was hounded out because he was Jewish then that is abhorrent. On the other hand, if he was hounded out because he is a genocide supporter then I’d say that’s fair enough."

Which of those two reasons is the reason he was hounded out according to the article?

No. If the person was just quietly sitting there then I agree that is wrong. That’s why I said I would wait for more information before forming an opinion.

Exactly what was said on both sides.

@inkworks273 Ah ok. That's entirely reasonable, to get facts before jumping in

I don’t know the reason he was hounded out. It may have been neither of those reasons. That’s why I’m waiting for more information to see what was said before forming a judgement either way.

I mean, the facts have been provided in the form of a third party who made the original complaint. It's all there in the link I shared.