The cenotaph and poppy sellers

[LittleMooli]

Hi, would anyone mind explaining to me why the media seems to be portraying that remembrance commemorations are being targeted by pro-palestinian protests? I don't really know enough to know how the two things are linked.

The reports of an elderly man being attacked in Scotland have been proven fake news. He wasn't attacked.
That station has extensive cctv and police have confirmed no evidence of assault.
There is also some dubiety as to his 'service' in the forces.

Maybe he's confused or maybe he's just a horrible liar.
What is fact is that he wasn't attacked.

I do think it's interesting that the March seems to be focused on demanding a ceasefire from Israel. Do they know that Hamas continues to pour rockets on Israel and civilian targets? There was also a terrorist stabbing in Jerusalem a couple of weeks ago and many people in Israel are on lockdown, in desperate fear for their lives as rockets fly over their heads.

The only reason there isn't mass bloodshed in Israel is thanks to a good defence system.

Gaza doesn't have a defence system because, well, ask Hamas.

The only reason there isn't mass bloodshed in Israel is thanks to a good defence system

But Israel have been criticised for their weak border barriers with Gaza. Hama just walked in.

Perhaps because it is a remembrance service in Britain??

To honour those from this country and the Commonwealth, who gave their lives in the service of their countries.

I think it could be viewed as disrespectful to hold the march on a weekend where Britain is remembering its own dead.

How, though? How is it disrespectful to say "we want a ceasefire to prevent the death of more innocents"?

I don’t think you can reasonably say that. London is very diverse so it depends on your circle. Most people I know support these marches.

I’m sure that will change. They didn’t think Hamas would go to such extreme acts knowing what would happen after

And then Hamas showed everyone just how barbaric given the atrocities on October 7th

Never has so much controversy been whipped up out of nothing. The fake news about poppy sellers being assaulted have galvanised football fans to turn up and 'protect the cenotaph' despite the Cenotaph having a meticulously organised police security protocol every year.

The talking heads on both sides have convinced many that there are going to be scenes, riots etc, and the whole thing keeps growing. The media are hyping the story and it's become an unstoppable juggernaut. It no longer matters that the poppy seller wasn't assaulted and that the march isn't going within a mile of the Cenotaph.

There is aggression at the marches

I know this poppy thing will be repeated by all as some kind of see nothing there, but there are many recordings of other aggressive acts

It’s not somewhere I’d go, for that and other reasons

But it’s up to others to decide. I’m sure it’ll pass without much incident

True.

That is completely inflammatory and false . They have been marching each Saturday since the beginning of the bombings for a ceasefire !
The 11th is a Saturday !the bombings are still going on so they will be marching plain and simple.
The root goes nowhere near the cenotaph and is after 11 oclock. Cruella is just trying to rille up the racists once again

Never thought I’d see the far-right allied with Israel, but here we are. Chomping at the bit to clampdown on wrongthink it seems.

When my Daily Mail reading father said he respected Braverman, I just knew it was because she was a crypto-fascist. An immigrant woman? Not the kind of person that would get his glowing praise unless she was going to stir some shit against the bleeding hearts of the world.

The cenotaph and poppies denote peace, something which is the antithesis of the protestors' desire. Yes, you've got some naive, gullible people in there but in the main, peace isn't about destruction. So to vandalise UK monuments, which also took place during BLM protests, is to call for the opposite of peace but rather for desecration and an assertion of arrogance and superiority.

Britain is wild. I can't believe marching for a ceasefire and the end of bloodshed is seen as controversial. I saw a video of one if the protests in London and the comments were horrifically racist. Lots of 'we should send them back to their own countries' type nonsense and that's the mild stuff. If people want to say that anyone protesting is supporting antisemitism because a few people may be arseholes, then it follows that anyone that is against the protests are supporting racism because they are aligning themselves with racist arseholes. Protesting against your government supporting the massacre of 1000s of people should never be controversial it should be seen as a moral duty.

Britain isn’t ‘wild’ on this. France has banned marches, we haven’t done that

If you are in another country, which one?

The naïve gullible people who find this kind of thing horrific.

Are you the representative of "the vast majority of Londoners"@AdrianaLaCerva ?
I think most people in the UK support the right of freedom of expression. These marches have been taking place every Saturday since Israel began it's ruthless bombing campaign, and there's no reason why this Saturday should be any different.

If it was banned they might turn up somewhere (using phones) and march with no police presence - you can hardly arrest thousands.

What's your point?

Who are the 100,000 marchers if not Londoners???????

There are marches other cities.
people are appalled at Gaza.

Jesus Christ…

Where I live in Scotland everyone supports Palestine - I’m of the view faults on both sides but people hate the killing in Gaza and support marches against it.

As they should, since this is a literal war crime going on.

Well over 10,000 people killed in barely a month. That’s actually extermination camps level of death (Auschwitz managed 20k monthly).

So you don't have a point, that's relevant to my post. Thought not.

I don’t engage in the terminally dim that can’t fathom why people march against war crimes without thinking it’s nefarious brainwashing. Sorry.