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Conflict in the Middle East

Is anyone's mental health affected by simply reading about the horrors of October 7th

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mids2019 · 02/11/2023 19:24

I keep reading details in the Daily Mail and I know journalists have been given a video of the atrocities but it is absolutely harrowing. I understand large broadcasters can not go into detail as the events were to shocking for a general audience and in reality I think even written descriptions are worse than any thing I have read or watched.

Has anyone felt some outlet to express disgust is helpful (as some sort of therapy)?

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 15:56

tuscanpoppy · 03/11/2023 13:44

Where did you read this? Please link to your source if you're going to make these kind of statements on MN.

His name was Hsim Ben Aryeh. Scroll down through this article.

https://www.jta.org/2023/10/11/obituaries/faces-of-israels-fallen-soldiers-a-peace-activist-a-family-of-5-and-more

You are asking generally about sources, I assume? Not just about this?

Faces of Israel's fallen: Soldiers, a peace activist, a family of 5 and more - Jewish Telegraphic Agency

Just a few of the hundreds and hundreds killed in a spasm of violence, reflecting the rich tapestry of Israeli life.

https://www.jta.org/2023/10/11/obituaries/faces-of-israels-fallen-soldiers-a-peace-activist-a-family-of-5-and-more

StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 16:08

TRIGGER

PLt78

I've seen it, it was a report from one of the first responders. Two witnesses are mentioned.

https://www.jta.org/2023/10/31/israel/an-israeli-first-responder-recalls-tending-to-the-body-of-a-baby-burnt-in-an-oven

Your comment is just vile.

pLtt78 · 03/11/2023 16:15

StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 16:08

TRIGGER

PLt78

I've seen it, it was a report from one of the first responders. Two witnesses are mentioned.

https://www.jta.org/2023/10/31/israel/an-israeli-first-responder-recalls-tending-to-the-body-of-a-baby-burnt-in-an-oven

Your comment is just vile.

My comment isn't vile. Your source however, is propagandist.

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:21

pLtt78 · 03/11/2023 16:15

My comment isn't vile. Your source however, is propagandist.

You were rightly deleted so mnhq don’t agree with you.

pLtt78 · 03/11/2023 16:25

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:21

You were rightly deleted so mnhq don’t agree with you.

We are used to the many unjust deletions on MN

https://x.com/Hussein93610296/status/1719348841881759939?s=20

https://x.com/Hussein93610296/status/1719348841881759939?s=20

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:27

pLtt78 · 03/11/2023 16:25

We are used to the many unjust deletions on MN

https://x.com/Hussein93610296/status/1719348841881759939?s=20

‘We’ how many usernames are you talking about

Stomacharmeleon · 03/11/2023 16:30

@pLtt78 boo hoo.
I don't know how much evidence you want more than accounts from first responders, a suicide and various articles.
So anything other than ' I saw it with my own eyes' is propaganda?

pLtt78 · 03/11/2023 16:32

EasternStandard · 03/11/2023 16:27

‘We’ how many usernames are you talking about

You can be as combative as you wish. Be as ridiculing as you wish.

Propaganda will always be called out.

@MNHQ, Do a fact check before you delete given you allow so much Israeli propagandist posts to stand.

pLtt78 · 03/11/2023 16:34

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Allfourwalls · 03/11/2023 16:34

@IAmtheVampiresWife this is what I was referring to. It's one thing shooting someone, but what they've done to babies is sick. I don't know how any human can do that.

Stomacharmeleon · 03/11/2023 16:37

A first responder who tended to the body of a baby.
What more do you want?
A confession? From the monster than did it?
Are you presuming the baby made its own way to oven? Was put in there for safe keeping?

StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 16:41

pLtt78 · 03/11/2023 16:15

My comment isn't vile. Your source however, is propagandist.

Two eyewitness accounts are propagandist?

You're shameful.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 16:42

*No, there are no first hand accounts.

This is exactly what is allowed to stand on this site. Boo hoo and propaganda.*

Boo hoo? Are you mocking victims?

AbsoluteYawns · 03/11/2023 16:43

The reason there is so much detail is exactly this.

Those who hate will say (like the Holocaust) that it never happened. That it's propaganda or fake news.

The reality is that Hamas are deranged and violent and care not a jot for anyone, Israeli or Gazan ( I include in 'Israelis' all the faiths that live there).

It's already happening on MN so goodness knows in years to come what denials of atrocities there will be.

People who think the likes of Hamas and ISIS stop in the middle East are lacking intellect. They are definitely also going to come for us in the West. They already have.

thinkfast · 03/11/2023 16:46

AbsoluteYawns · 03/11/2023 16:43

The reason there is so much detail is exactly this.

Those who hate will say (like the Holocaust) that it never happened. That it's propaganda or fake news.

The reality is that Hamas are deranged and violent and care not a jot for anyone, Israeli or Gazan ( I include in 'Israelis' all the faiths that live there).

It's already happening on MN so goodness knows in years to come what denials of atrocities there will be.

People who think the likes of Hamas and ISIS stop in the middle East are lacking intellect. They are definitely also going to come for us in the West. They already have.

Hear hear!

Redlarge · 03/11/2023 16:47

Ohlalalalala · 02/11/2023 19:41

You should avoid reading the DailyFail which, as @Hellers beautifully put it, "revel in the gory details to a disgusting degree", besides the fact that their "journalism" -if you can call it that- leaves a lot to be desired.

Look up "Atrocity Propaganda".

100% this

backtowinter · 03/11/2023 16:52

AbsoluteYawns · 03/11/2023 16:43

The reason there is so much detail is exactly this.

Those who hate will say (like the Holocaust) that it never happened. That it's propaganda or fake news.

The reality is that Hamas are deranged and violent and care not a jot for anyone, Israeli or Gazan ( I include in 'Israelis' all the faiths that live there).

It's already happening on MN so goodness knows in years to come what denials of atrocities there will be.

People who think the likes of Hamas and ISIS stop in the middle East are lacking intellect. They are definitely also going to come for us in the West. They already have.

All of this. Very well said

tuscanpoppy · 03/11/2023 17:22

@StarbucksSmarterSister thank you for the link.

Milkandhoneybees · 03/11/2023 17:31

ProvincialLady1 · 03/11/2023 15:53

It doesn't make sense. You are claiming that antisemitism is because of the actions of the Israeli government, and suggesting that anyone thinking otherwise doesn't see Palestinian lives as having equal value. Nothing about that makes any sense whatsoever.

I didn’t even remotely say that. Goodness me. You still haven’t even bothered to read.

eardefender · 03/11/2023 17:32

ssd · 02/11/2023 19:34

Im more affected by the news pictures coming out of gaza, not because it worse but because the sheer numbers are unimaginable. The horror there is unimaginable. I feel guilty sitting in my nice cozy house and sleeping in my bed whilst thousands are dying and lying injured. And that's just the little children.

Yemen
Pakistan
Syria
oh wait, they are all much worse but muslim on muslim violence, not those pesky other ones so yes much more pearl clutching when the jews stand up to defend themselves isnt it.
same old double standard

Alcemeg · 03/11/2023 17:48

I can't quite believe the venom and spite on these MN threads, and it's really served to polarise me, as it all seems to come from one side in response to gentle and reasoned posts. Let's not feed the trolls!

DevonWindyWeather · 03/11/2023 18:42

StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 16:08

TRIGGER

PLt78

I've seen it, it was a report from one of the first responders. Two witnesses are mentioned.

https://www.jta.org/2023/10/31/israel/an-israeli-first-responder-recalls-tending-to-the-body-of-a-baby-burnt-in-an-oven

Your comment is just vile.

A baby found in an oven. The first responder story is unbelievably cruel and depraved. Sick.

DevonWindyWeather · 03/11/2023 18:45

eardefender · 03/11/2023 17:32

Yemen
Pakistan
Syria
oh wait, they are all much worse but muslim on muslim violence, not those pesky other ones so yes much more pearl clutching when the jews stand up to defend themselves isnt it.
same old double standard

It feels like that.

All the wars in the Middle East Iran/Iraq war. Uprisings in many middle East countries, the massacred Kurdish, Syria, Pakistan throwing out Afgans, Darfur genocide. Very quiet on Tic toc, insta, x and you tube. Didn't appear to cause a stir for many.

Parkingt111 · 03/11/2023 18:47

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 03/11/2023 19:12

Is that guy a journalist? He was filming at the UNWRA school the other day.