The Return of the First Time Frolickers guest starring our friend Agnyss Cactus - join us as we wage war against the Evil Red Tide of Doom (hereafter known as ERTD)

[Ariesgirl]

For anyone old and new trying to conceive their first child. Lovely friendly ladies with a penchant for acronyms, charts and unsuitable snacks await your arrival with open arms. Here's the blatantly copied and pasted List from the last thread. If anything's wrong, I absolve myself of any responsibility!

evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 28?! CD137
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle12 UCL29 CD50
Junglebob TTC#1, Cycle 6, UCL31-36, CD49
PinkiePooTTC 1 Cycle 4 UCL 28-64 cd 40
wakarimasen TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL25ish, CD39
Florin TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL ??? CD34
takethatlady TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL32 CD34
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 12 UCL33-39 CD32
LankyLady TTC#1 cycle UCL29, CD28
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL28-33, CD26
Muser TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL 28, CD24
Saor Alba TTC #1, cycle 1, UCL?, CD19
StreathamRanger TTC #1 Cycle 7, UCL ?, CD19
Superpenguin TTC#1 cycle 1, UCL29, CD15
Mrs Wajs TTC#1 cycle 10, UCL 29-32 CD15
Lipstie TTC#1 Cycle11 UCL25-28 CD14
cherrycobbler TTC#1 cycle 5, UCL32 CD10
Ariesgirl TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL 29-32 CD9
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 11 UCL31 CD9
almostknockedupgirl TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL 26-28 CD4
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL30? CD1
SarahAvon TTC #1 cycle 1, UCL 28-30 CD??

Not counting days
haloflo TTC#1 cycle 6
Bellaby cycle 2

Waiting to TTC
Calyx
Sevans
FelicityFlick
CaveMum
calligraphy82
hairytriangle

MIA (stopped counting cds)
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD115
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD89
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD74
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD61
Hoping TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 32 CD89
lipstie TTC#1 Cycle7 UCL26-28 CD77
lucieloo TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL 24-32 CD69
LinzRed TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD77
Stiffybyng TTC#1 cycle UCL28 CD75
misshoohaa TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL-28-35 CD56
Headbanger TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 24 CD68
chico193 TTC#1 cycle ? UCL36 CD56
Dinkytinky TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL27 CD48
Claire 196 TTC#1 cycle2 UCL 25-28 CD46
moulesfrites TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL 28 CD42

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
DesperateHousewife21 3rd Nov
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
Sky27 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec
whiteroses BFP 11 Jan
hamsterlover BFP 11 Jan
Hobnob76 BFP 17 Jan
MadameG BFP 17 Jan
pixiestix BFP 18 Jan
ceebs05 BFP 22 Jan
addie81 BFP 28 Jan
WorrisomeHeart BFP 29 Jan
chancewouldbeafinething BFP 1 Feb
Hermya321 BFP 12 Feb
fudgecat BFP 19 Feb
honeymoo BFP ??
Pidgin BFP 27 Feb
YorkshireTeaDrinker BFP 29 Feb
DrewsGirl BFP 4 March
bunnygirl80 BFP 12 March
Mumnerves BFP 1 April
Spanishlady BFP 3 April
luckyseven BFP 8 April
Capricorn76 12 April
Homebound 30 April
Starberries BFP ?
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
seablue BFP ?
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
chalky3 BFP 30 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June

Gin? The mere thought of alcohol is turning my stomach today. If I didn't know better I'd say that was A Sign.

Oh no sorry Aries - what about some sparkling elderflower water instead? x

sorry to hear the bad ertd news aries pink bubbles and cake for you x

Only me, the lazy teacher who is clogging up the thread with idle chit chat back again to bore you all senseless with my waffle

Just popping into say not sure when will be back on again as am getting a stupidly early train up to Mr.F's parents tomorrow and then off to the wedding on Sun.

Mr. F's parents must be the only people who don't have wifi so although will have my lap top won't even be able to lurk How will I cope?! Then on Monday we're off camping in France with Mr.F's friend and his girlf until Fri when we're back at the pil's again. Already getting withdrawal symptoms- how will I cope?! It will be at least two weeks I expect- I will have to find a way to at least lurk. I am sure that there will be an influx of BFP's awaiting my return

So will say so long now and good luck to all! Hopefully the thread will be a bit easier for you to keep up with without me talking drivel all day Miss you all already! xxxxxxxx

Have fun Flick

Thanks cavey Hope you're enjoying James! xx

Hi ladies, how are we all? Hopefully pleasantly merry on our tipple of choice to celebrate Friday! Well I am just having a break after my exhausting few days of being pampered in a 5* hotel with bucketsfull of champagne before cosying up in a cottage in the lakes for a week. Thought I'd quickly try and catch up on the gossip whilst DP is busy but there has been so much chat I haven't had chance to read everything properly yet. Hope all is well and look forward to reading all the news and posting properly soon.

xx

Thanks for all your lovely words, ladies . Sorry I'm so shit at catching up with everyone. It's just that I'm so busy at the moment. All I do is work, eat, FB, MN (a bit) and sleep.

This thread has been crazy busy!! I will sit down and catch up as soon as I can, I swear!

So um, not actually got anything to say, just thought I'd say hi. Still no change on my broken cervix, it's still messed up.

But the test results are negative for any infections/STD's, which points to it being the fault of the mirena coil.

Also, I've decided to count days again, just not cycle days, it's currently 42 days till I get married!!!

Doctor's report - she thinks I might have polycystic ovaries, and the main thing to do is to be less fat. Obviously I already know I'm a fatty, and having the doctor tell me so was quite miserable and I felt deeply ashamed of myself. I cried and everything, I am such a big girl. Still, it may be hard work to lose weight but it is at least simple. Hopefully in a few months I will be a mere shadow of my current self.

giraffe sorry you are upset. Is the Dr doing further checks to confirm whether you do have PCO / PCOS or not? You probably already know this but it's really common to have insulin resistance if you have polycystic ovaries which has huge implications for how to lose weight.

Hope you're OK

And don't feel ashamed! One of my friends has PCOS and was really overweight - she kept being treated really shoddily by Drs until they diagnosed her PCOS (she had to go private as the NHS Drs said they wouldn't investigate until she lost weight but she couldn't shift the pounds despite trying really hard).

Then she found out that she had insulin resistance and that's what caused her to put on weight to begin with and meant it was very hard to lose - so they put her on metformin for 6 months and she was able to get her weight down really quickly.

She was really sad that it took so long for someone to explain it could be the PCOS causing her weight problems; she spent years feeling rubbish and thinking it was her fault despite eating sensibly and exercising loads.

evilgiraffe You aren't alone on the overweight thing, I believe my BMI now puts me in the obese category

Morning ladies, and big hugs to those whom the ERTD got.

After about a week of doing a good job with the SWIing, we've been rather rubbish the last few days. In theory I should be ovulating round about now, but the CM hasn't shown that, so I'm not going to stress about it too much. In fact, I think I might have ovulated earlier in the week, when we were being good about the SWI. Kind of hard to tell, though -- I had quite a few of the "Is that my bodily fluid, or his?" moments.

I've not done temping or used OPKs up to this point because the change in the CM has been really obvious -- in fact, I remember noticing it back when I was a teenager and my mother explaining what it meant. But with the addition of, ahem, copious amounts of male bodily fluid, it's getting harder to tell.

We had a GP appointment this morning to discuss why we haven't conceived. The doctor said seven unsuccessful cycles wasn't that many (which I knew already), but still referred me for the day 5 and day 21 bloods, and DH to the w*nk-in-a-cup clinic. I'm not looking forward to being stuck with a needle, but I'd rather that than DH's forthcoming indignity of, erm, having some quality time with himself while some random stranger waits around outside.

Saturday's List

evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 28?! CD183
Saor Alba TTC #1, cycle 2 UCL32 CD33
Crazybutterflylady TTC#1, cycle 1, UCL30, CD30 (maybe)
cherrycobbler TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL 32 CD28
Mrs Wajs TTC#1 cycle 11, UCL 29-33 CD28
Pinklady76 TTC#1, cycle 1, UCL ?, CD25
IfAtFirstYouDon'tSuceed TTC#1, Cycle 4,UCL 28, CD24
Alien06 TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL??, CD22
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 12 UCL32 CD21
RaspberryTipple TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL ?, CD19
LankyLegs TTC#1 Cycle 10 UCL 27-29 CD18
cookiemoo TTC#1 Cycle 17, UCL 27 CD18
TomboyWife TTC#1, Cycle 8, UCL28, CD16
GardenPixie TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL30-35 CD16
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 5, UCL28-33, CD15
FelicityFlick TTC#1 Cycle , UCL 32-33, CD12
Karstan TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL28, CD12
Florin TTC#1 Cycle 5 UCL ??? CD11
stegasaurus TTC#1 cycle 16 UCL? CD8
highheelsandequations TTC#1 cycle 13 (ish) UCL 32+ CD7
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 14 UCL33-39 CD2
Ariesgirl TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL 29-32 CD2

Not counting days
Kaloki
Bellaby
Miffles
Kurlyvoice
Chalky3

Waiting to TTC
Calyx
Sevans
CaveMum
calligraphy82
hairytriangle

Recent Graduates:
Seablue BFP 1 May
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June
Muser BFP 22 June
Superpenguin BFP 1 July
Haloflo BFP 22 July

Saor any news from you yet??

Sorry ERTD turned up aries

Hi to everyone else, trying to keep MN to minimum so I'm not going crazy!! Doing pretty well so far but it will get worse when I hit CD 30 cus I'm not sure how long this cycle is gonna be as I dunno when I ov'd so it'll just be a waiting game from then. Thought I had slight cramps this morning so not getting hopes up too much.

Tomboywife good effort!

I don't think I've ov'd yet this cycle so haven't been pestering Mr Garden too much but I am keeping my fingers crossed that my body will get its act together soon!

I can't keep up with this thread!

Still waiting to ovulate....don't think I have yet....no 'signs'....

I'm all poised and ready as well.... He is getting twitchy

Giraffe so sorry to hear what the doc said made you miserable. My good friend at my old work had PCOS and had had it since she was a teenager. The weight had piled on and she ate sensibly and did as much exercise as her weight would allow and still she remained overweight. She was very maternal and despaired of getting pregnant naturally. But she did and now she has the most adorable 2 year old boy and is pregnant again. It may take you a bit longer, but you could still be fine. Have you asked the doc for any advice or help? It makes me mad when I hear of doctors just telling women stuff they have to do with no advice of how to do it.

Sunday's List

evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 28?! CD184
Saor Alba TTC #1, cycle 2 UCL32 CD34
Crazybutterflylady TTC#1, cycle 1, UCL30, CD31 (maybe)
cherrycobbler TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL 32 CD29
Mrs Wajs TTC#1 cycle 11, UCL 29-33 CD29
Pinklady76 TTC#1, cycle 1, UCL ?, CD26
IfAtFirstYouDon'tSuceed TTC#1, Cycle 4,UCL 28, CD25
Alien06 TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL??, CD23
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 12 UCL32 CD22
RaspberryTipple TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL ?, CD20
LankyLegs TTC#1 Cycle 10 UCL 27-29 CD19
cookiemoo TTC#1 Cycle 17, UCL 27 CD19
TomboyWife TTC#1, Cycle 8, UCL28, CD17
GardenPixie TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL30-35 CD17
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 5, UCL28-33, CD16
FelicityFlick TTC#1 Cycle , UCL 32-33, CD13
Karstan TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL28, CD13
Florin TTC#1 Cycle 5 UCL ??? CD12
stegasaurus TTC#1 cycle 16 UCL? CD9
highheelsandequations TTC#1 cycle 13 (ish) UCL 32+ CD8
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 14 UCL33-39 CD3
Ariesgirl TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL 29-32 CD3

Not counting days
Kaloki
Bellaby
Miffles
Kurlyvoice
Chalky3

Waiting to TTC
Calyx
Sevans
CaveMum
calligraphy82
hairytriangle

Recent Graduates:
Seablue BFP 1 May
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June
Muser BFP 22 June
Superpenguin BFP 1 July
Haloflo BFP 22 July

Shock horror - the thrush has appeared this morning, surely means ERTD is not far away

No news here. Still trying unsuccessfully not to obsess. I've not been off the pill all that ling so should have expected irregular cycles. Don't feel like ERTD is imminent and had a bfn yesterday. Going to try to hold out til the end of the week before testing again. Only have one pg test left.

Although I haven't been posting I've been keeping an eye on you all. Hi to all the new and oldbies.

Morning both...
Still no sign of my ERTD either and was due on yesterday... like you Saor, i am trying unsuccessfully not to obsess. It's so hard though! It's such a vicious circle because I know that the more I think about ERTD the longer it will take to arrive because I am stressing about it without wanting to... I did have a bit of cramping yesterday so it can't be far away although I usually come on the same time as the cramping... just wish it would arrive so I can have a glass of wine with my lunch

I have decided I'll try another test tomorrow first thing and if it's a BFN then I'll forget about it till next month. (HA! I'll try anyway)

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you both - MrsWajs thrush can be a symptom can't it?

Have a good Sunday x

Morning all.

Sorry to hear about the thrush MrsWajs - I suffered with it in my early teens and it was horrid.

Girrafe sorry to hear that your Dr was so insensitive (((hugs))).

I popped down to good old Holland & Barrett yesterday and bought some Agnus Castus so fingers crossed it will do the job and get me regular.

I know flick has used AC and said it rely helped her cycles, has anyone else dabbled and if so how long did it take before you noticed a change?

to everyone.

zips a belated BOO to your ERTD. It does suck, and particularly when you are given glimmer of hope. YAY to hormones being A-OK for fruitful shagging though! Hope you're feeling ok.

Oh no re thrush mrsW - sending lots of non-obsessing vibes your way to help you through the next few days. I also gave up temping for a couple of months as couldn't be bothered and think I'll start it again next month so at least I can see when I ov'd.

crazybutterflies the wait is rubbish isn't it! although for what its worth I think that although stress can delay your ovulation, your luteal phase is pretty fixed, give or take a day, so even if you chew your fingernails right off with worry you won't be delaying your ERTD. WHat I'm trying to say is - late is late, and there's hope yet!

EvieTheGiraffe grrr, doctors can be so insensitive - idiot (them, not you). PCOS can also make it v hard to lose weight so its not exactly fair to make you feel so shite about it. I could have written aries's story about her mate (really actually, quite scary - work friend, one kid, expecting number two at the moment) - PCOS doesn't mean no to conceiving naturally, don't give up hope.

Three days from ERTD and already getting cramps. Still convinced, despite having all symptoms, that I might be pg so DH is stocking up on consolatory gin for when ERTD arrives.

"despite having all ERTD symptoms". Obv not having ANY pg symptoms.

Doh.

Morning...I mean, afternoon

Attempt number 1.

My ovulation nodule as described in Weschler's book has popped up so just to be sure we did some fandangoing.

I'm hoping I am one of those people that comes off the pill and falls pregnant just by looking at a man. Or something.

Hope everyone's well today