Charter's Anonymous

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I thought I'd start a thread for all of us who worship at the shrine of Toni Weschler, spend whole seconds analysing cervical mucus, slip over in the shower checking cervical position and spend two minutes every morning flicking their heads from side to side in a valiant attempt to stop a baby pulling the thermometer out of their mouths. Ladies, this thread is for all of us, may it see many many BFPs!

Hello teasonme! The thread had gone rather quiet... guess everyone's out basking in the sun and drinking about 12 pints of iced water a day (am blaming this on the speck, but of course it may just be the heat)!

Hope you have ovulated, that would be make for a 35 ish day cycle wouldn't it, which is a lot better than some of the ones you've had to put up with IIRC. Any EWCM? (what a question to ask someone! )

It's a bit odd stopping charting, I sort of miss recording and plotting my temp every day and getting a nice graph all pretty colours.

How are you doing Dani? Any more updates on your cycle?

Hi spilt how you feeling?

I have had some EWCM but haven't had a +ive OPK and may be slightly confused with preseed(!)

It would be great if this was a 35 dayer so am keeping fingers crossed. I seem to have been a bit more relaxed this cycle so maybe that will help too!

Hi everyone

teasonme, I had problems distinguishing between EWCF and erm, other things - if in doubt, just record EW. Fingers crossed for a 35-day cycle.

I hope you're cycle starightens itself out, dani. Don't lose hope; I had a 17-day anovulatory cycle in February, then ovulated fine the next month (although on CD20).

How are you feeling, spilt? I am feeling sicker by the day. Eating lots. Must try to drink more water!

You can always drop it in a glass of water to distinguigh between ewcm and, er swimmers.

rushes off to puke

offers ice cubes all round

Oh dear ladies, this is not supposed to be a pukers thread!

I'm tired and have had a vile headache for the last two days. Felt a bit odd yesterday and sat down on the kitchen floor very abruptly. It was hot and I had strawberry jam boiling in front of me and suddenly came over all faint .

I'm drinking like a fish (water obv) as apparently your kidneys step up processing from the word go. Given how thirsty I am that seems probable.

Sorry you're feeling sicky BV. Is it nausea or vomiting or both? Apparently lots of water is supposed to help. And even if it doesn't and you end up a regular puker, I hear plenty of water dilutes the stomach acid so it doesn't burn as much on the way up!

I am keeping my toilet spotless atm incase I suddenly become very well acquainted with it. Don't like the thought of hugging the toilet bowl and having to look at skids/wee on bottom of loo seat

And how are you silver? You guys must be 6-7 weeks ish now?

Morning everyone! Hope everyone has been enjoying the sunshine!

choccie I haven't had a chance to get on the computer at all this weekend due to family visiting, but thanks for casting your expert eye over my chart on Friday

Well, looks like it was an anovolutary cycle, as AF has arrived with her bags packed for a five-day visit this morning, really surprised, as I was honestly expecting to OV any day. On the positive side though, it's the first normal-length cycle I have had in a long time, so maybe it's a sign of good things to come?

I'm off on holiday tomorrow until Friday (I am a fully-fledged MNer now, going Glamping, although I have not buckled at the feet of Cath Kidston yet ) but I'll look forward to catching up with how everyone is doing when I get back!

8rubberduckies I'm sure I read somewhere that most women have about 1 in 10 annovulatory cycles. I had one the cycle before I got pg in January. So therefore it's a good thing.

duckies, I agree with B, that anovulatory cycles are very common - but it's only the charters who spot them. Enjoy your Glamping. Look on the bright side, at least you don't have to have muffled SWIing with canvas walls

Hi split, 7 weeks today . Only nausea so far; same as with DD. But good tip about the loo, must bear that in mind (although being pregnant is a good excuse to get out of cleaning the toilet altogether I find!).

good grief yes, count yourself lucky duckies - sex in a tent on the stoney ground sounds hideously uncomfortable!

I'm also generally trying to play catch up with laundry etc whilst I still feel broadly ok, in preparation for being completely useless!

Hello all,

I hope you have all been enjoying the sunshine and have not been too about the stupid men running around in shorts who get paid goodness knows how much per week to be so rubbish!

I have been away at a wedding this weekend so didn't temp this morning.

Since coming off of EPO (because i thought I have ovulated) my temps seem to have regulated themselves. I had a slight drop on sat but then have not been able to temp this morning and have been far to busy for any SWI so am hoping my temps have not risen and i have missed it. I have lots of CM at the moment but not any EWCM. I will keep charting and hopefully ov soon! If not I just want AF and then I can concentrate on next month!!

Hope everyone is ok xx

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This is me at the moment. Not looking promising. Think def an annovulatory cycle this month

You all made me laugh out loud about the idea of reaching that time of the month and being stuck in a tent! We have beds in our tent, Yes, beds, and a woodburner(we could afford to camp out in our normal tent for about a month for how much it is costing us) but SWIing would still be difficult as our toddler will be in a single bed next to us and although he likes his kip I'd be petrified of waking him up to find Daddy straddling Mummy!

danilou I hope you have OVd this month, it's difficult to tell from your chart, but if it is any consolation I felt relief this morning when AF came, as all I was feeling for the last few days was confused, so I am now feeling positive about his next cycle and determined to have a few days off from temping and thinking about it now. Good luck

hippy how did the scan go?

You sound like very couth campers duckies, hope you have nice time!

hippy hope you're ok, let us know how it went if you feel up to it. Thinking of you x

Hi ladies, temp went down this morning after 2 high days so it looks like I haven't ovulated yet...grr...just want to be on the 2ww now!!

Thinking of you hippy xx

Could just be a dud temp teasonme, wait and see what you get tomorrow.

Oh, teas, sometimes I don't know which is worse - the wait for ovulation, or the 2ww!

Hope today wasn't too bad, hippy. Come see us when you're up to it.

I think the wait for ovulation is worse because you don't know how long it will be and you have to continually be SWI even when you can't be arsed. At least your LP is fairly fixed!

Yep, although am being rather rubbish at the SWI at the mo - must put more effort in!

I got the letter from the local hospital on Saturday about my referal and have just sat down and read it properly and I'm having a real wobble. I've been thinking of it as a positive thing, a step forward but I've just looked at the website with all the forms I have to fill in and I just feel scared and a little bit frightened. I don't know, it all just seems so real all of a sudden.

Hi. WARNING LONG POST....

Sorry I didn't come back to you yesterday. Thanks to everyone for asking after me.

Scan had the best outcome we could have hoped for (apart from the miracle baby option).

Everything has gone by itself and there is now a thin lining so go back to the start (do not collect bloody anything ).

Anyway, she said all looks fine, ovaries both fine etc. Good to go again if we want to.

Was very relieved to hear no need for medical intervention.

I do feel that we got off rather lightly (IYSWIM). The bleeding lasted about 9 days but it never got too bad. I needed a hottie twice and paracetamol twice. Thanks to my endo I have had far worse periods in my youth. There were times when I literally did not know what to do with myself cos of the pain and i had feared that would befall me last week but thank God - it was nothing like that.

GP today. Bless her, she is already planning what we will do next time. "We'll check your levels every few days, we'll get you an early scan (even if we have to tell a white lie and say your spotting)." She said she is confident that I will get preg again and that she sees no reason why it shouldn't go right next time (has she not been paying attention to my MC history )

Anyway, she said it's obvious that fetilization is taking place as is implantation - it's just that the last 2 embryos have not taken off and she hopes the next one will. So do I love, so do I!!

She doesn't think I have the sticky blood thing cos I had 2 successful pregs before, she says it really isn't a fault with my body more a chromosone problem.

So here we go again. I do feel that as I have dealt with this early loss fine I am happy to go again. But if I were to lose again I may well stop then.

My DH didn't want me to get my FSH levels checked cos he said the results would not be conclusive regarding egg quality and he didn't feel we should make a decision based on that. I am ok to go ahead on that basis.

She isn't too worried about the pains in my legs. I do not show signs of DVT. So will see if it settles down.

Sorry for long ramble.

God, don't people go on when they're talking about themsleves .

theteasonme sorry you're feeling scared. It is defo for the best though to speak to someone who really knows what they're talking about. Try to think of it as the first leg up the ladder with the healthy pregnancy waiting at the top.

Oh, hippy, you are being incredibly brave and positive. I completely agree with everything you say. And, painful though they are, two miscarriages are not indicative of a long-standing problem. I think going for it again is a wise decision, as it sounds like you would regret it if you didn't, if that makes sense. I hope so much that you get a good, sticky one next time And three cheers for your GP; she sounds utterly lovely

teasonme, hippy is right. Take things one step at a time. It is natural to be apprehensive, but a referal is a good thing. And consider the alternative - pretend nothing is wrong and carry on regardless? You know in your heart of hearts that that would be silly. This is just something that you have to go through (unfortunately), but you WILL get the ultimate prize at the end

God, I feel like such an arse giving out advice when I am pregnant and have never experienced a MC . Hope I am helping rather than sounding patronising/foolish/stooopid...

BabyV You don't sound stoopid (love saying it like that - haha) at all. You are mearly offering your support to me and teas which is, after all, what we come here for.

Thanks.

Yes my GP is great. If we do get around to moving to the Isle of Wight (our plan for the last billion years) I will miss her so much. Might have to ask her to come with us .

How are our pregnant ladies getting on. I'm thinking you must be 7 or 8 weeks by now.

My Dh says he doesn't want to go for it like mad this time. he wants us to take it easy and see how it pans out. BUT I am still gonna chart etc. I mean once you know what to look for, it is almost impossible not to chart (even if you are only mentally making a note of CM).

i will do some SWI once I see Egg WHites and also check once my temperature has gone up. But as far as he is concerned we will be taking it easy and seeing how it goes .