Charter's Anonymous

[LittleSilver]

I thought I'd start a thread for all of us who worship at the shrine of Toni Weschler, spend whole seconds analysing cervical mucus, slip over in the shower checking cervical position and spend two minutes every morning flicking their heads from side to side in a valiant attempt to stop a baby pulling the thermometer out of their mouths. Ladies, this thread is for all of us, may it see many many BFPs!

Aha, so MrHippy must be seduced for SWI-by-stealth! You'll have to share your charting details with us lot and pretend to him you just really want sex!

I'm glad you haven't got to go through any procedures to clear up after the MC, that sounds very frightening. Are you waiting for a period now, or just charting and waiting to see what happens?

After my MMC in feb I waited for one period before trying agian but I had had an eprc (like a d & c) and so i felt my womb might need to recover. But this time as far as my womb is concerned it's like a late period and I've been told that everything is fine in there so I probably wont wait.

I will just keep an eye out for EWCM and see how that works out.

Stealth seduction - very funny.

Very best of luck to you then, hope to see you on the antenatal boards soon

My goodness, I have missed so-o-o much!

Sorry to hear of your MC hippy, hope youre doing OK.

CONGRATS babyv, spiltthetea, littlesilver and any others that I may have missed on your BFPs, thats great news.

I've seemed to have had a "what's the point" moment this month after AF appeared late and I had convinced myself Charting has unconciously been put on the back burner (I havent even wasted my pennies on OPKs and -shock horror- have been able to go whole days without visiting FF & mumsnet!)

I'm pretty sure I've missed this month's window, but am not too upset about it

Ho-hum!

hippy am glad you are OK. You were much in my thoughts.

So, CD???? Keep us posted. I found the best thing to do was to SWI Mr Silver at appropriate times, then throw in a random shag as well, just to stop him feeling used suspecting.

Chin up old thing teason! This is A Good Thing! Print off your charts!

Thank you for all the kind messages ladies, I'm still hoping that we'll be lucky this month and then won't have to go through with the appointment but as I'm pretty sure I'm going to ovulate late again I'm not holding my breath! I have had some EWCM but my temperature's not conclusive so am just going to keep on SWI-ing until the RTD appears.

hippy that's definately good news, am so pleased it went ok for you.

Thanks again ladies xxx

Hi all, hope you don't mind but I'd like to join your thread please? We've been TTC DC2 now since Dec 09 and are now on cycle 6. I charted last time I got PG and have been doing so the entire time this time round. I was breastfeeding until Feb and have had at least one annovulatory cycle so am hoping my cycles become more normal soon (at the moment they range from 28 to 48 days!).

This cycle we've had a few life issues to deal with, one of which was the day before I ovulated so not holding out much hope this month! Anyway, I'm currently 4DPO and trying to ignore it. DH has got a SA next Thursday and wierdly that is what is keeping me focused and not thinking about the outcome of this month too much.

xxx

I always do stealth SWI - I used to tell DH what was going on, but the pressure started to get to him so now I keep the info to myself!

IfatFirst - I am very impressed at you uncharting behaviour - I get a bit twitchy if I don't update my charts on TCOYF every few days!

teason, better to ovulate late than get AF early!

Welcome Orchid! You'll get lots of support and quite possibly tmi here as well, when are you planning on testing?

From a first month charting... my sleep patterns being crap make things rough, I do apparently ovulate but around day 17 of a 28 day cycle - hopefully that's enough of a luteal phase to get lucky and I have EWCM for about a week this month (and I never normally get it at all).

Oh and my husband hates the heat so I've had to tell him "look this is the day you need to quit whining and drop yer drawers and get on with it."

Thanks LittleSilver

Never heard of such a thing as TMI - doesn't exist for me

I've conditioned myself into not testing early because I was finding it so demoralising. However, because I OV'd late and DH has his SA next Thursday I will need to test next Tues which will be 11 DPO. The thought of it fills me with dread actually!

My temps are a little all over the place too. I've got bad hayfever at the moment and have been sleeping with my mouth open I think, which has meant some of my post OV temps are very low. This morning for example I got 36.42 which is very low for me (previous day was 36.77). I waited a few minutes and took it again and got 36.72. My guess is that the second reading is the more accuarate one but that then also means my 5 temps since OV have almost all been the same which doesn't normally happen.

empty - I'm impressed! I know what he means about the heat but needs must at the end of the day .

Hi orchid and hello again empty. Orchid, I got my BFP this month after 6 months TTC #2 - my cycles were all over the place too, and I was all prepared to storm to the GP's and demand a SA for DH. Turns out there was no need, I hope the same happens for you

Empty, good news about the EWCF - have you been taking EPO, guaifenesin or doing anything different this month? I hope your sleep problems are getting better, althogh in this heat, I suspect not!

And welcome back ifatfirst! I agree with bessie, I found it awfully hard to resist the lure of FF.

BabyV - thanks for your story, you have given me hope! Oh, and big congratulations to you too . We're paying for a SA privately as the GP told us they wouldn't do until we'd been trying a year. It's £60 at the local hospital which we considered to be reasonable for peace of mind/reassurance that all is ok.

I too am addicted to FF - it's the first thing I log on to in the mornings

Glad to see you back IfAtFirst and to hear you're ok. Impressively chilled of you to take a month off of charting like that, it gets a bit compulsive!

Hello Orchid! I suspect you're right and that recent breastfeeding is the reason your periods are a bit random. What sort of cycle did you used to have?

And empty, nice to see you again, I was wondering how you were. Congratulations on the EWCM, tis very satisfying to stretch it out! Sounds like you have an 11 day LP which shouldn't be an issue with conception at all. Hippy, Littlesilver and me all have shorter LPs than that, and 11 days is safely inside the normal range. Don't worry on that score. Good luck to you. What cycle day os it for you now?

Hi ladies - got a positive opk today so I know what I'll be doing for the next few days! Was at a family 'do' this weekend and had a couple of people warning me that only children are lonely poor souls blah blah blah so would like a BFP to wave in their faces (not literally...hmm, well, maybe....)

xxx

teason tell them (politely) to sod off! My sister has extensive MH problems and I actually heard a woman who didn't even KNOW her very well tell her extensively how bad it is for children to be onlies. I nearly hit her. Have no idea why people think this is an appropriate thing to comment on!

Happy SWIing!

Oh ladies, can I just wibble for a moment? I am so bloody nervous. 7 weeks today and am terrified am going to mc. Every tiny twinge, every feeling of dampness and I rush off to check. There's a big circle at the beginning of August in my head which is when the 2nd trimester begins, God willing, for me. I hope so much we get there.

Fingers crossed LS I really hope it's plain sailing for you xxx

teason silver is right, they are being very rude. You should never have to justify your sexual and contraceptive choices to people!

Poor silver. I had a big panic yesterday so I know where you're coming from. Had a bit of a crampy "periody" stomach and went straight to full blown neurosis. But things are fine. Apparently 4-6 weeks is a particularly dodgy time, the risk of loss decreases more and more the further on you get. I'm sure you'll be fine, I really really hope so. Am 4+5 today.

silver obviously there is nothing that i can say to re-assure you (my recent news probably just makes you even more paranoid).

i really really hope it will all be ok for you - no reason why not. i know it seems ages to go but you will get past the first trimester soon and then it will be soooo much easier to relax.

try to stay positive. I tried to be positive but just a little guarded and as it turns out i was right to be guarded but you are younger than me - so your odds are good.

ps. i found it really sweet the other day when you quoted my lp length to someone. It was like, wow silver knows so much about me (even my DH couldn't answer that question about me!). just made me feel like we're all buddies for real not just virtually - IYSWIM.

Agree with everyone about people making stoopid comments. Very few people with only one child have done it as a conscious decision and people should think before they open their bloody big thoughless gobs .

LittleS - I know exactly how you feel. I am paranoid too. I think most women with a little knowledge are. But a little blind faith does no harm, and lets face it, if anything did (God forbid) happen, then we would be devastated no matter how hopeful/guarded/positive/realistic we have been. What I am trying to convince myself say, is that we can't change the odds, and there is no harm in being hopeful.

I actually Googled 'most common week to MC' today as it has been playing on my mind a little. I have even been woken in the night by crampiness (although it was combined with a full bladder, so maybe that was the real reason). Hopefully just stretching, burrowing in pains.

My DD has a genetic condition, so there is always a little 'doom and gloom' thought playing at the back of my mind. Maybe I have duff eggs, maybe something will happen etc. But, to be fair, I am naturally quite a positive person, and try not to worry about things until I have to - a state of mind which it has taken me aaaaaages to establish, and which often deserts me in the wee, small hours! Hope you aren't fretting too much

LittleS I can completely understand the worry, but echo BabyV's sentiments. The most probable outcome is that all is well and this worry will have been for nothing. Worrying about something won't change the outcome, but will mean that you get into a pickle over something that most likely will never happen. Try to not to waste that all that emotion and save it instead for lots of lovely happy thoughts when you get to August .

spilt - periods have always been a little eratic. I was only feeding once a day at the point I gave up and had been for a while so not sure that my hormones would have been too out of whack, but it does appear that they were looking back at my charts. I have come to the conclusion that I am sensitive wee thing that seems to be affected by things very easily. I'm taking agnus castus and EPO before I OV to try and regulate. It worked for a couple of months, we me having bang on regular cycles, but this month I OV'd on day 22 instead of 18.

Hope everyone is having a good week,
Orchid (who is desperately, and now failing, trying not to think too much about being on the 2ww)

P.S: would someone kindly remind me to listen to myself when I start worrying excessively about things that I cannot control. I'm the world's biggest hypocrite!!!

Ah we're all hypocrites Orchid, it's so much easier to give advice to someone else!

How are you today silver?

FF is playing funny beggars with my OV date again - now moved it from day 17 to day 19 - grrrr! I think it's actually the former, my chart's upy downy anyway because my sleep patterns are something chronic. The day 17 ties in better with the EWCM, sore boobs and everything else - so hoping it'll switch back to deciding on that date in a few days with a few more temps taken.

Done nothing different with the EWCM this month - just seem to be drowning in the stuff and it went on for a week nearly!