Charter's Anonymous

[LittleSilver]

I thought I'd start a thread for all of us who worship at the shrine of Toni Weschler, spend whole seconds analysing cervical mucus, slip over in the shower checking cervical position and spend two minutes every morning flicking their heads from side to side in a valiant attempt to stop a baby pulling the thermometer out of their mouths. Ladies, this thread is for all of us, may it see many many BFPs!

No worries silver - i am of course about everyone who is having a successful pregnancy but am also genuinly pleased for them. Wouldn't wish anything bad on all you lovely ladies.

i was just surprised to see how far along you were. kinda forgot how long it's been since those heady days when we had about 4 graduates in a week .

But you HAVE NOT made me fel bad at all, honey.

I'm glad you said you always remember the EDD (IYSWIM)

• my sister thought I was being negative to be thinking about the date and planning to be miserable in advance.

I'm not saying I'm planning to mourn every egg that doesn't get fertilised or even to make a big fuss in Feb when the last pregnancy would have been due but with the one that would have been due this month I did make it to 11.5 weeks and we (stupidly) had told people so surely it's not unusual to mark the EDD?? Is it??

I'll have the EDD of the one I lost in my mind when we go through January (I was due about a day after my lil bro's birthday). I'm hoping I'll be sufficiently distracted (this bean's had a stern talking to about how I expect it to stay put for a good 9 months - start the parental authority early) to get through it - but I expect I'll feel pangs of "what if" anyway - however things end up. It's only natural.

Glad I'm not the only one. It was just that my sister asked if we could get together (we don't live near each other) on the EDD date. I replied that I wasn't sure cos that was the day our baby would have been due and i hadn't decided what - if anything - I wanted to do to mark the day and I also couldn't be sure that I wouldn't feel very down.

She later rung me up and said she was worried that I was focusing on the date too much and I should look forwards instead.

She mentioned that she was meant to be having an IVF cycle in decmeber and had that gone ahead and been successful she would also have been having a baby soon but she wasn't going to dwell on that date. But surely it's not the same thing is it??? Mine was actually conceived and up until the 11 week we, as a family, though we were getting a baby.

I have purposely forgotten my exact EDDs so that I don't mark the date. I know one was around valentines. And another in-between Xmas & new year, but I didn't want it to become a date on the calendar IYKWIM. (not that I think there's anything wrong with marking the date if you want to)
I agree with the looking fwd idea. I get very depressed if I think about the m/cs too much and I want my body to be a happy place ready for the next baby.

Just heard on the news about the "recommended guideline" for waiting for 6 months post mc being wrong, and that you "can try straightaway". What on earth? I have never heard this guideline in my life, where did that come from. I was just told to wait for the next period to make dating easier.

Yes I heard that on the news this morning. I have never heard of women being told to wait 6 months either. I was also told to wait one period.

They also said the old thing about women being more likely to conceive in the first 6 months after a MC (I still maintain this is probably just cos those women were really desperate to get preg again and just tried harder.)

they said you would be less likely to have complications or a further MC if you got preg within 6 months - I've proved that theory wrong. i got preg 3 months after my MMC and still had a further MC.

My 10 year old was watching it and he knows about the MMC in Feb but doesn't know about the MC in June. he said to me, "Mum you lost the baby on the 12th Feb, you have 6 days to get pregnant and still be within 6 months - can you do it?" No pressure there then!

When i say tried harder I just mean SWI at the right time, charted etc - I didn't mean to suggest that those of you who are struggling to get preg are not trying hard enough. Sorry, read it back and i sounded mean .

Oh hippy that is so sweet!

empty how are you getting on? Are you feeling bit more confident now?

thanks silver I would hate people to think i was a mean old hippy.

I have not been charting properly this month, mostly due to the odd pain i have been getting - it runs from deep inside my belly button down in a straight vertical line to my bits and back again. They though it was a UTI but the wee sample has come back all clear so they have decided that they don't know what it is . All the doctor could say was that it wasn't anything serious. i didn't get to see my usual lovely GP (bet she would have known what it was - bless her!) I saw an elderly lady who asked how my toilet was and then said "How are No 2's?" .

The reason I was worried was cos I did have the same pain about a week before my last MC but the doctor seemed to think it wasn't anything to do with my girlie bits. She stuck one hand up me and pushed bloody hard on my belly (I felt like a chicken being stuffed!) and decided all was ok in there!!

Anyway, because of all the odd pains I have no clue if I have ov'd yet or not. i think probably not cos I had egg whites today so have sneaked in a crafty SWI. This is the first cycle that I am clueless as to where I am (apart from my two WTF cycles after MC's) - who knows maybe this will be a good way to do it and I'll get up the duff anyway.

Sorry, what a bloody long post all about me.

Hope everyone else is ok. We are due some more BFP's on this thread this month (bagsy me be one of them!)(Hippy waves her hand in the air).

oh hippy that sounds like a weird pain & a horrible examination! (I thought they only did that during labour!) - will you go back to see your nice GP about it?

Yes, I think I will go back, I still have the pain today and someone on the 40+ thread said she has had a few UTI's and you don't always get a positive from a wee sample (especially if the wee is a weak sample).

My lovely GP will sort it out - hopefully.

Yes the examination was a but like when you're in labour and they treat you like a christmas turkey.

Still apparently she could tell from that that there was nothing serious wrong with me .

How is everyone else doing??

good. i think it's always good to keep going back until you get an answer you're happy with!

I'm on the 2WW - am trying to distract myself by drawing a lovely graph (can you see it?) of the 2 temps I've been taking for most of this cycle. Am impressed by how much less "rocky" the vaginal temp is - I must sleep with my mouth wide open some nights!

Just had a peek at empty's chart - it's not been updated since her fab news on weds, so hopefully she's relaxing at home

Gah! I posted this morning and it must have vanished as my itouch died - god damn technology!

Just popping in and out at the moment - think I'm about 5dpo but DH sperm will have to be those long-life super duper ones as we were on our sex embargo because of his SA. Bloody typical that the egg should land when we can't do anything about it!

Hope everyone is well, hippy if you don't feel better by Tues next week then defo go back with another sample - it sounds like a UTI to me xxx

hippy make sure yuo DO go back (to your nice GP this time!!)

empty? Are you OK?

bessie it would appear that you don't sleep with your legs open then - too much???

thanks for the advise. I will go back to the nice doc and ask for anti Bs. I'm a bit pissed off about it cos I think i may have missed the egg. I was so busy worrying about what could be going on in there that I did very little SWI (also cos it made the pain worse).

Anyway I took my temp for the first time in days this morning and it was 36.70 which is an after ovulation temp for me usually. So why egg whites yesterday???? You see what i mean about this cycle being all to cock.

Ahh well I will just have to hope that if I did ovulate there was at least one lonely little chap waiting for the egg. I'm due on around my birthday so will probably just get AF for a present - but can only hope foir a nice birthday BFP.

love to all. xx

Hi all - I'm still around - got past the point where things went to pot last time (which was the equivalent of Fri/Sat this weekend) - was the only thing I was looking at as a goal really. Symptoms seem to have died down to JUST being atomic porn star boobs which worries me slightly - I keep staring at my tummy urging it to bring ON the morning sickness!

In two minds about telling people - especially hubby's mum. His sister's just announced she's pregnant - so if this doesn't go to plan, it's going to be pretty much a case of being too close for comfort for us and we're going to need some understanding, yet part of me is irrationally terrified that I'm some kind of fraud and not really pregnant at all and the family will think of me as the boy who cried wolf or something - can't quite be sure there's someone in there if that makes any sense. Hubby wants to tell his mum on the basis that it's going to be easier to have a "she's lost it" conversation rather than a "she was pregnant but she's lost it again" conversation but I dunno.

empty It is so crap being pregnant after an MC isn't it.

For what it's worth, i told my mum when I got pregnant 3 months after the MMC thinking it would be nice for her to know. She didn't do much with the news (eg. never mentioned it again and nver asked how I felt) and then when i lost that one at 7 weeks she was determined to get her point across that i should not try again, i should take the hint that I'm too old and stick wth what I have. So i have decided that if I get regnant again I wont involve her. But that's just my experience (she's old and she lost a baby after she had me and my sis and she decided one MC was more than enough for her and I think she just wants to make me do the same).

On the other hand my MIL was really pleased we carried on trying and after the last MC she was full of 3rd time lucky stories.

I think it is probably easier to tell people who know you're pregnant that you have lost it rather than have to do the - I was preg but then I lost it chat.

Do whatever feels right - I am sure no one will think you are the little boy who cried wolf (bless you).

Docs just rang wanting another urine sample - now I'm irrationally freaked out even though they only were testing for a UTI.

This is ridiculous.

If you got a BFP then you are defo pregnant - honest!

At least they're checking for a UTI - can they check mine at the same time please .

Sending calm thoughts to empty.

(All very well Hippy but if yu get another BFP - you'll be just as bad!!!!)

empty they probably just spilt the first sample!

hippy I'll have you know that my legs are well and truly closed apart from one week a month and on special occasions

We haven't told either of our parents about the MCs coz we didn't want them to worry (my mum could fret for England!) and we won't be telling anyone about the next pg until after the 12 week scan (if I had my way, I wouldn't tell anyone until I had actually given birth, but I think people might notice before then!)

My "nice" Dr is finally back from holiday, so I'm going to see her this arvo to chat about my possible hypothyroidism. Thankfully my 2nd set of Progesterone tests came back normal, so I only have one thing to worry about

hippy have you made the appointment with your nice dr yet?

Well the oracle that is the overpriced digital (seriously which Tesco is selling these for 2 for a tenner cos mine ain't!) says I've gone up from 1-2 weeks to 2-3 weeks, by dates I'd be 5 weeks today so it's in line (and with the world's weakest wee sample as I'm perma on the loo shoving cranberry juice down my neck in case I've got a pee infection).

Hopefully someone's digging in good and proper - wish I had more symptoms though - just sore boobs that when they're not sore, my husband obligingly prods really hard to make them sore again... along with sitting there congratulating his willy on a job well done and insisting it deserves a medal. This along with various conversations about how he wants to name the baby Luke Darth Vader Skywalker.

Men!

Brown spotting. I'm in pieces.

empty brown is better than bright red. I can guess how you're feeling but please try not to assume the worst. Are you gonna go to docs about it or wait and see??

Thinking of you, honey.