Mid 30s TTC - Simply The BESH... BESHer than all the rest!

[Scorpette]

Come on in, ladies. I've had a widescreen telly installed and there's a big cupboard full of 80s teen movies if anyone's interested. New and more secure cages for our prey are being delivered soon. There's a big picture of a desert over the bar, a loudly ticking clock in the corner and bowls of raisins, currants and sultanas on every table; everything the discerning BESH could ask for...

Poor Beshie

I am a miscarriage graduate too to we can hold hands. I'm quite philosophical about mine now (happened in May - can't BELIEVE so long ago!) and I think when you get to this stage you have to be really, otherwise you'd blow a gasket. So I'll vacate the easy chair for you, because your need is greater than mine. And besides I've got to go to Asda in a minute. Have To Go To Asda - Tesco's has been relegated to a month when we are not so skint. And yes, the irony of that statement is not lost on me - I freely admit to being morally bankrupt as well as financially!!

Sorry beshie, shitty news

It's more the bruises than the tan lines I need to show off! My legs are somewhat multicoloured. There's a link on FB of like a million gazillion pics, but if you look at the end theres some drunken ones of me dancing with the bar staff in the local bar. A fitting ending to the week.

Up very early. Is it because of the stress at work? or how about the nightmares after SFF embarked upon foreplay with chilli traces still on his fingers last night? [ouch!] He swears he washed his hands...

This is not the best way to make a baby

curly Ow.

It is far too early to be this angry about the "beat up the working mother" story this morning. My blood is proper boiling.

Daily Mail is already screaming that working mothers are EEVUL.

Am incoherent with righteous feminist rage.

Cosmosis I love the pic of you knees-akimbo giving it come-hither over your shoulder. Looks like a great trip.

Working mothers don't feed their child properly? Yes, that makes sense - Mum's gone to Iceland et al. Kids don't get exercise? Yes, now mum's got a job she can't afford a mountain bike/ski trips/pony - let's placate the kid with an X-box.

Have forced myself to visit the Daily Heil's website to check this crap out. This is why I read The Grauniad - when commenting on a report about 'today's kids' being lazy, junk-fed lardbuckets, they don't go down the 'burn the witch' route and even have the audacity to suggest that one major prob might be that women are working f-t then coming home and trying to do everything else when their partners are also working f-t and come home and do nowt or much less.

Am so worried about this situation that I've trained TYF to do most of the housework. He's still incapable of seeing an overflowing bin or turning the cooker off after use, but he's learnt his duties well. Thank god his mum is so repressed that she sees slaving thanklessly after 'her men' is the way to show love - TYF now sees doing housework as his proof of love for me. Men not doing housework is a personal Feminist bugbear - my Dad's always done at least 40%, even when my mum was SAHM and he had quite a high-powered job, so what's anyone else's excuse?

Ski - I think the problem is not that working Mums are slack, but that nowadays Mums (working or not) have too many good things to placate their kids with. In our day, we'd get a mini-milk then shoved out the door with our etch-a-sketch to play with our mates (if we were lucky, etc., etc.). Nowadays, they've got sooo much cool stuff and amazing food to be given so Mum can have a break If I could've had Ben & Jerry's and a Wii when I was a kid, I'd've stayed indoors turning into Jabba The Brat too.

Curly - so your husband is too hot, even for you? Needs to put out the fire in your pants? Those first two were free - any more dire puns will cost ya! Poor fanjina - I've suffered the same in the past and it ain't pleasant

Cosmo - those dancing on the table pics were a disgrace (why wasn't I invited?). I have changed my mind about you.

For the better

Well, Fertility Friend says I am 51% (51 points) likely to be updiffed, so I am ordering the cot later. Fifth day of elevated temp after OV, so is good sign.

I shall also count writing far too much as another pg sign

Scorpette I'm delighted to read of you 2WOOFL madness! Best of British etc. Jailbait is downstairs as I type scrubbing the kitchen.

That night was such a laugh, the bar staff speak as much English as I do Italian, and yet we were the best of friends by the end of it. Got to bed about 3 got up (still drunk) at 6.30 to get back to the airport.

Grown up and responsible? I think so.

So currently I have decided not to bother temping this month, kind of got sidetracked when on holiday, so we're just shagging.

Oh and this precise moment I am torturing myself watching baby programmes on sky and wailing "it's not ever going to be meeeeeee" and gnashing my teeth.

TGO is back at work today, but he's promised me a shag when he gets home, seeing as it's about the right time. Who says romance is dead.

beshie sorry mate. Hope your lovely little girl is helping you thru it. I know mani kept me going when I felt truly fucked.

The Daily Mail can kiss my arse. Now there's a quote they are welcome to use,the cunts. There is no way I'm going to give their mysoginist rant thoroughly researched article any of my time...as a part time working mum I am already spread more thinly than marmite. And struggling. And fairly low about the whole thing. And liable to commit violence if pushed by some shit wank sorry excuse for a newspaper. CUNTS

as you can see I don't have a lot to say on the subject.

Perfect timing tho,am working and have been up all night for 3 days with sick child,trying to manage fucking everything,so cheers for the shit sandwich whoever wrote that 'report'

can we stop calling them the maul or the heil and just call them the daily cunt?

gin Am sure you're doing a fucking brilliant job.

In fact, am pretty sure that most parents most of the time are just trying to do their best for their children. And Bad Cocking Science from wankers who spin probabilities in a cohort study into "working mothers cause cancer" bullshit is deeply unhelpful.

Today I am mostly cross. And tense. And not really capable of work.

scorpette Am almost at the end of 2WOOFL. Suspect my general need to kill may indicate the onset of PMT - if today I combine chocolate & ice-cream with weeping and a mad killing spree, I suspect I'll know for sure.

Ooh, and welcome back Cosmo. Sorry, forgot to say hi in all the ranting.

Yep 'ello cos!

And thanks camel I'm really trying,I know that much.and my boy is very well fed,has loads of exercise,is read to all the time and is generally loved to pieces. At 20 months old he can have Actual Conversations (quite unusual at that age) so maybe I'm doing something right.

By the way, I would never know anything about anything written in the daily cunt if it wasn't for you lot. I was quite happy not to know really.

Cosmosis Just "having sex"? You're fucking clueless luv, you need a thermometer up your arse, an excel sheet, a microscope and a smiley face on a POAS. What is this madness you attempt?

Anyway, there's a girl on the June bus just back from a 10 day "activity" holiday with a BFP. I bet she wasn't "Having sex" or whatever twisted mumbo-jumbo you want to use.

I'm OVing huzzah although I feel like it's time to jack in the towel. I am morally and financially bankrupt and finally my career is going great guns. Can I have triplets pleaes?

Ski, I see that you too are playing the 'Bad Timing' odds. I have just dropped a dress size after what has seemed like 47 years of dieting and exercise, so am hoping that this guarantees at least twins. Mind you, should probably not have squeezed self into skinny jeans which I named, in the past, 'The Hysterectomisers'.

Evenin' all. What's the opposite of 2WOOFL? Cos I'm calm, resigned to a nada, bit bored of waiting for the droid but confident he'll be along this weekend or so.

Is it the law of opposites?

laurie I blithely opt for bikinis since tankinis concertina away from my hips and stomach into an unflattering waist-roll, and I'm too long in the body for swimsuits to be entirely decent. We're going with friends, and have made a pledge not to look at one another below the neck since we are none of us as perfect as we fantasise we once were.

VAG haha that sounds very much like my water-skiing with work last week. You shoudln't have to see your colleagues in wetsuits and your eyes should not move below the neckline.

About half of my colleagues have seen me naked

They so luckeeee!

Oh scorp mani gets mini milks if he's lucky. And sometimes some stickers. Retro parenting!

In our day we had a hoop and a stick and a barley twist every leap year and by gum, we were grateful. Kids these days don't know they're born! Here's to retro parenting

Really want a mini milk now.

BTW WHY are so many early updiff signs the same as R2D2 gearing up to arrive? So mind-bendingly frustrating: am lurching from imagining my child's graduation day to just awaiting probably inevitable red flow and back to the future child again...

Yep.does your head in for sure.the only thing I remember re actual signs when I was pg was that I did have some things that I hadn't experienced before.but then as you may remember I managed to convince myself fairly recently that maybe I really was feeling all those things again (twat)

i've got a load of toddler bribes mini milks in my freezer if you want one?

Allergic to milk (like just about everything), innit.

My prob is that I have generally crap health and am also physically sensitive, making me therefore aware of every little twinge and ache and 'blip', so I can't be sure if things are normal things or pg things. Or me being a big fusspot over nothing Like today: I've felt quite sick all day. I haven't eaten anything different, gone without food (not one of my problems ) or changed meal times, etc., but there could be 100s of reasons why I've nauseous. Similarly, the weird soreness at the top of my breasts is new on me, but could just be different pre-R2D2 mastalgia. Aaaargh!

(Although I notice that on Fertility Friend I've been having the same symptoms for the last 4 days )

I really do know whatcha mean. Am not allergic to stuff but am known for being sick/nauseous incredibly easily.

However,the updiffed nausea was like nothing I'd felt before.especially the response to smells. And my boobs...well that was a bizarre feeling! However it's all more obvious with hindsight and as I said before,first time round r2 was already late before I really remember this stuff happening.

Maybe you should ask someone to drug you for a few days?

has anyone seen extreme? What about skater?? think most of the rest of 'em who left the palace are With Child?

i didn't leave. i'm still skulking about.

i'm too worried about missing the besh meetup with besh babies in ski's ranch (for she will have a ranch by then) in 2011.

we can all lay into the gin and mountain biking while the young, ginger, sexy, grumpy, tall and baldy fellers can look after the kids

i am actually a little anaemic and delirious at mo so not up for posting much but just wanted to say a quick hi.

hi

oh and gin my lover got one of your cards for his birthday (the tequila one). i was just so ridiculously excited (abnormally so!) about the card it was unreal.

nice work. you evil career mother

bessie sorry to hear your news. what a bag of shite? hope you're getting through it though.

oh and laurie i had the lap and dye thingy.

i won't lie to you. tis not the most pleasant thing in the world.

not painful as such but weird in the fact that someone is fiddling inside an internal organ while your awake

bearable though and bonustastically, you're sposed to be extra fertile for a few months afterwards as your pipes are flushed clear.

Yay, Cheggers! I saw your face on my FB friends list last night and was just thinking that I really missed you on here You obviously heard my call How are your 57 babies then?

Is gin the MD of Moonpig? If so, have a barbed-wire punch for that insanely catchy jingle (a friend of a friend has been nicknamed Moonpig since her teens - not a day goes by without people singing it to her)

Ooooh, shameless stalking ahoy - I just Googled 'tequila card' - does your company name have a bird in the title (don't think that's too much of a giveaway, is it)?

PS Ta for the reassurance. Am much calmer this month - such a shame I made my first 2 months of absolute mentalism public by rambling on here about it My mentalism is much more controlled now

(And by mentalism, I ain't talking about Derren Brown or Simon WhatsisnameyouknowSkiFanciesHim)

Not with child, obviously - but I'm still around too - just gone underground in my gopher tunnel with the demon droid. Started giving hints yesterday and went full metal jacket on me today. Those extra hormone shots have really jacked up the cramping this time - holy shite! I've got my bottle of tylenol here and my peach, so I'm making it through it.

The tall fella and I are going to see the doc tomorrow about our latest babyfail - do you think she'll give us detention??? As long as he's there, I think I can take it.

Bessie - so sorry to hear of your news, that's one of the worst things - ever! I hope you are pampering yourself and taking it as it comes. BESH-Hug

Keep up the madness for the 2WOOFL! (shall I get out my pom-poms? no? OK.)

I'm switching over from obsessing about those cute things I can't bear to mention to weight loss again. Actually worked out this morning and ate well yesterday and today and lost another pound. So I've got that to look forward to. I still dread the actually cooking and preparation bit, but I'm in training. I'm going to try to see how much I can lose before the next round starts.