***Let's support each other again - Part 2***

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Well ladies, I thought I'd better start us a new thread

May it bring us all good luck, see us through happier times, and at least two new bundles of joy

xxx

Well done MBM for getting us off to a brand new start. Lets hope it brings good luck to us all!

Love poppy xxx

Thanks Poppy Think we need a bit of luck don't we!

How are you? How is ds? Have you got anything planned for over the hols? My 'plan' was to potty train ds, but it's been stalled so far as we're having a nightmare with him sleeping (or rather not ). He won't stay in his 'big boy' bed and thinks it's all a big game Last night he didn't sleep till 11, and then refused to have his nap today. Cue a very tired little boy that's driving me nuts! Am dreading tonight... Any tips?

Hope the rest of you are fine? Is it nice weather in the UK? Hope so!

I have my gynae appt tomorrow, at long last, and am getting a bit nervous! Have had to wait soooo long for it that figure he must be good, and what if I go in and he says I'm wasting his time? Aagh! Wish me luck!

a new thread ! yayy
How is everyone doing?

Hope MBM and Poppy get preggers soon in this new thread
MBM, you can tell your ds that if he doesnt go to bed early or take naps in the afternn he might get 'panda eyes' i hate it when it happens to me lol
Wheres Becky?? hope shes doing ok..
and M2O too..

am starting to wash baby's clothes tonight cos' have started some pain symptoms which is a bit worrying and walking have slowed down a lot these few days..
DH is coming only next week so am hoping n praying baby doesnt come out anytime soon (not this week pls) and am not due till 2 wks later.
got to go now and do some housework..
take care everyone

Oooh Nandos That's so exciting! I hope your dh gets there in time... Make sure you take things easy, and do lots of relaxing while you have the chance A friend of mine told me to put my feet up and watch lots of DVD's, you won't be able to for a while! It was excellent advice Enjoy washing the baby's clothes, and putting them all away, it's such a lovely time.
Have you got your hospital bag packed? How long will you be in for?
I will tell ds what you said At the moment he's doing my head in as he just laughs at me when I try to tell him off, it's maddening. Aah, you have all this yet to come

Went to my gynae appt this afternoon - I was there for 4 hours Had to wait an hour due to an emergency, then saw a nurse who took my history. She then discussed it with the Professor (the guy I went to see), who then came in to talk to me, then when he left the nurse explained everything then I had to make what seemed like a million appointments for various tests/procedures. Have to have a specialist scan 'down there', also have to be injected with dye and have bladder and bowels scanned (separately), then blood tests day 21, and during AF, then genetic counselling blah blah blah. My diary has never been so full What's funniest though is that dh has to go in and in his not so happy words 'wank in a cup' He is NOT amused. The Prof thinks it's a possiblity that I have endometriosis, so it'll be good to find out what's going on... Had ds with me all that time, and by the end he was mega-hyper and fed up. The nurse was talking to me about testing to see if we had a gene for a disorder that means that boys are a bit 'mental'. Am wondering if she was specifically bearing ds in mind at that stage

Right, have to go and rescue him from the bubble machine - he stands so close he ends up with all the liquid splashed on his head and then smells of soap for ages

Love to you all, and hope you're all okay. Sorry for the mammoth me post! m2o if you get chance to read this would be interested in hearing what you think as you know much more about endio then me... Thanks x

Hi MBM- just a quicky again, I am lurking though, will explain more later but things have been mega hectic just lately.....

What symptoms does he particuarly think point to endo?

xxx

Hope you're okay m2o... I just told him what pain I get ie. burning in hips, v painful periods, pain when deep you-know-whatting, pain when needing number 2's. The nurse asked a few questions like am I tired all the time, and yes I am... It might not be endo and I hope it's not, but then at least they're looking into it. Feel on a bit of a high now, because I was taken seriously, and because we've got a plan. Was sat in a waiting room with loads of ladies with bumps though so was quite
Really hope you're alright xxx

I'm ok- have just had loads going on recently with fertility appts- really need to find the time to sit and write it all down for you guys, and I will, I promise!!

We are ok though- honest!!

The pain you get sounds really familiar I must say BUT it doesn't mean its conclusive. Do you get ovulation pain? Ovulation is awful for me- I feel it happening for about a week and when it finally happens, I have to double up- its crippling.

Will you have a laparoscopy? did they mention that?

Hi MBM sounds like you had a v thorough appt. Hope you get some answers now. I must admit I did feel a lot better after all the testing etc with the recurrent mc consultant in the same sense that I felt listened to and although for us the "getting pg" is as much of a prob as staying pg, I do feel that if we manage to achieve the first part at least we have "a plan" to help maintain the pg which we didn't have before. (now just need to get pg )

M2O also hoping you are ok.

nandos omg, 2 weeks to go get relaxing now! It really is the last chance for that as soon you will be v busy...... but also v v happy Hope you hang on till dh arrives.

becky how r u? Hope you r enjoying the hols.

We have had a funny week. Last wk the exhaust fell off dh's work van and we had to have it repaired and mot'd. Passed by the skin of it's old teeth and will hopefully see us through till next year! Then our car had to go to garage for repairs (aghh more cash) then my microwave banged and died last fri so had to replace that! Then yesterday packed up ds and took him to my grans and I headed off for reiki only to get there and discover my appt. was for today so today was like groundhog day, packing up ds, toys etc and heading to grans.....
I was v lucky and could borrow dm's car as parents r on hol so still had "wheels"!
Hoping tomorrow will run smoothly

xxx

Morning!

Poppy Oh my goodness, you poor thing! Hope today has gone better for you Why do things like that always happen at the same time How are your reiki sessions going? Do you feel any different afterwards?

m2o Please do let us know what's been happening when you have the time... It sounds like you've been very busy - hope you're not letting yourself get run down? How are dh and Olivia? Hope they're both well. Are you going away at all this summer?
Re endo - it sounds like you really have it badly, it must be horrible I do feel ovulation, from about a week to ten days before I get this burning in my hips and my back gets bad at the bottom. I have to say that this month it's only been mild, but last month my coccyx was aching for days and sending shooting pain down my leg and I had trouble walking. I haven't a clue whether it's endo or not, but if it's not then I hope they manage to find out what's going on. Maybe all these different things aren't even connected, but it'll be interesting to find out.
What procedures have you had done? They talked about putting a camera into my uterus and taking a sample of the endometrium, but I don't think that's been included in the first run of tests that I'm booked in for. They also talked about the possibility of surgery further down the line, but not sure what that was, and hope I won't need anything like that! All the paperwork I have is in Flemish, and I don't understand any of it Time to go to Flemish lessons I feel!

Have got a friend coming over with her son this arvo to see the kitten so am madly tidying - the house was a real state, and I thought I'd have plenty of time yesterday to do it but didn't.

How are you doing Becky? I'm wondering if you're away maybe as we haven't seen you on our brand new thread yet Hope you're having a lovely time whatever you're doing!

Nandos Feet up now please!!! Hope you're relaxing...

Have a good weekend all, what have you got planned?

ok- have set aside a bit of time to let you know what I have been up to

Firstly, I have been very busy with my baby cats They are a right handful BUT I am happy to report that they now absolutely LOVE eachother what a releif!!! They sleep together, clean eachother, its lovely. Completely turned around in days- MBM, how is Dusty getting on with the dogs? By the way, cobby does mean 'solid' or 'chunky'- Meg has got that shape, Evie is more oriental looking and long limbed. They are so lovely, I just adore them. Have been handmaking cat food for them too which is taking ages and they will be back on pouches soon if they keep turning their noses up at it Do I sound nuts???!!!!! We are a right cat family now!!!

Well, on the baby front there has been a lot going on. If you remember, I had a consultation back in March which was very positive and he basically said that I needed to recover from my first laparoscopy and then he would do further investigation. WELL, fast forward to June when we went back for a follow up and saw a different consultant. She had none of my notes so wanted all my info again (took ages) and then proceeded to tell us we needed IUI. We sat there really shocked and said 'but what about the endo? We thought that would be treated?' and she said no- IUI first, then she would treat the endo I told her how much pain I was/had been in and she just ignored me. Then Simon asked her if the endo would stop the IUI working and she said 'I dont know'. Its only a 10% success rate at best as well....

We were truly shocked and to be honest we have been very sad and upset about the news of fertility treatment being our only option, plus me having to stay in pain. Its been a big blow Simon has been very low, even shedding tears and completely shutting off. Its been hard.

Anyway, fast forward to this week. I started to feel quite pissed off and wanted answers. So spoke to my acupuncturist who deals with CRM a lot and she suggested that i write everything down in a letter and send it to the lead consultant there. I laughed thinking she was joking but she seriously thought that that is what I should do. So on Wednesday night, we sat and wrote a 3 page letter about everything we had been through and the pain I was in recently and the appt we had with the other consultant and I dropped it in yesterday afternoon. (CRM is at the hospital I work at). Well, piss me, Within 15 minutes the lead consultants secetary was on the phone- he had read my letter and wanted me to come in today at 11.30 to talk to him It was a mega rush, getting time away from work but we made it to the appointment that as far as we were concerened, was going to sort everything out for us....

are you following this????

We went and after a long wait we were called in to see the lead consultant. We went in and he shook our hands, sat down and apologised that we had been recommended to have fertility treatment. He wanted to know all about all the symptoms I was having and he wrote everything down. And he told me that he wanted to operate, another laparoscopy but this time he will laser all the endo away and he will searate my ovary and bowel and it should leave me pain free and it will give us a really good chance at conceiving naturally. I could cry I am so happy AND he gave Simon his most recent sperm analysis results and he said they were marvellous (all the vits and exercise must be working!!) and he said there was every chance we could conceive naturally and he will give us that chance before sending us for fertility treatment. He did say though that if he did the laparoscopy and things didnt look good he would tell us there and then and refer us straight to IVF (better success rates) rather than messing about. We were very happy with that. Went for the pre-op assessment today ready for a date to come through.

I feel like a massive weight has been lifted off our shoulders. This whole thing has been so up and down- but the last few weeks have been awful. Hopefully this surgery will be the end of this awful awful nightmare. Am sat here in pain now, dizzy with painkillers and I just hope that in the next few weeks it will be sorted.

AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, hope you are all good and love to all xxx

Oh guys hello! Sorry I haven't been here for a while - I went away last week to Brixham with my mum, sister and brother for my mum's 70th birthday, which was lovely x a million, and then last week work has been so awful and busy I've been working every spare hour and evenings to the point of tears. The joys of being a freelancer

mbm glad to see you are being seen to and I hope they come up with some answers for you. Thinking of you.

Nandos weeheey final stretch for you! Yeah! Fingers crossed for you xxx

Poppy what a week! I have weeks like that too when it feels like everything is going a bit strange and going wrong. Almost as if there is something in the air...

m2o what a rollercoaster and in the end good news for you. When would you have the operation? I feel very optimistic for everyone It WILL happen for you. I love reading about your cats on facebook! They sound lovely mbm how is your little kitty doing?

I'm off to Cardiff today to a wedding party (the wedding itself happened in Italy). I've got an Isabella Oliver dress from ebay to wear but I'm worried it'll look silly. I don't do dressing up very often. And I have a prize zit on my chin. Lovely. Better go - we're off in ten mins!

Take care guys and I'll write more soon after the weekend

Hello! How are you all today?

Wow m2o! Thanks so much for taking the time to let us know what's been going on - what a rollercoaster of a time you've been having That's such good news that they're going to try to sort it out - do you know when the operation will be? Is there a long wait?
What fab news about Simon's swimmers too You both must be very pleased. Goodness me, I hope this heralds a turnaround for you. You've been through such a tough time with all the pain you've been in, let alone not being successful at ttc Let's hope things are on the up, you certainly deserve a bit of good luck
It's great news too that he'll be honest with you as to whether you should just go straight for IVF... Do you feel a little less stressed now that they're actually going to try to help? I have everything crossed for you that things are going to work out

Dusty's doing great thanks m2o and Becky! Had a bit of a problem as she had worms but they're now gone, hooray! She doesn't seem to be too terrified of the dogs either, in fact she sits the other side of the window when they're outside and taunts them. They go crazy! They have been introduced for a few minutes at a time, but the problem with boxers is that when they start getting excited their excitement levels just carry on increasing, rather than levelling off, so after a few minutes they seem to go a bit crazy

m2o can I ask how you're handmaking the cat food? Dusty's having chicken at the mo, with kitten biscuits, but I'm not sure that's the best for her. The vet suggested it as she had diarrhea.

Becky Poor you working so hard, I hope you're not too tired. Is this just a busy phase that you're going through or is it always such hard work? I hope you can take it a little easier soon.
How was the wedding? I bet you looked gorgeous in your dress! Did you take any pics? I'd love to see a bump pic too if you have one!
Will being a freelancer impact on how much mat leave you can take? What will happen with the baby when you start work again?
Hope you're having a nice relaxing day today x

Poppy and Nandos How's it going? Hope you're both well.

All is fine here, dh is off having a golf lesson and then to the gym, hence me having a bit of time to go on MN We have a military airbase just down the road, and it has an open day on Tuesday (Bank Hol here) and so ds and I are off to that with the next door neighbours. Am quite excited as they're doing an air show thing, and ds just adores planes (or 'yays' as he calls them ). Can't wait to see his little face light up when he sees them doing stunts

Have a lovely Sunday afternoon all xxx

Hello! We're BORED here because it is the school holidays and we're only on day 2!

mbm glad your little kitten is ok. We've just had our two wormed.

Work fluctuates but at the moment it is bad because I took on two CD-rom projects thinking it'd be a bit of light relief and it isn't. They are both going through testing at the moment and it is a lot of work. The good thing is that the DSs love these CDs (they are English Language Learning ones called Happy House and Happy Street) as they have games and stories in them.

I was the photographer at the wedding so I don't have any pics of me being big and pink.

I can take 6 months leave on statutary maternity pay. I did that with DS2. It worked quite well and then I started work again gradually just while he napped and DS1 was at preschool. Not sure how much I can get done with three though!

I hope everyone else is well and not too wet.

Nandos are you having your baby yet?? Can't wait to hear the news!!!!!

When I say I was the photographer at the wedding I don't mean official one!!! Just as opposed to DH! I made it sound like I was the person who took the wedding photos!

Boo! Where is everyone? How are you all doing? Are you all on holiday sitting on some beach in the sunshine?

I wish
Hello!! How are you Becky? How's the bump doing?

Wonder if Nandos has had her baby yet? It's so exciting!

Are you okay Poppy and m2o?

All is fine here, just about to book a night away for me, dh and ds which'll be nice - our only 'holiday' this summer as dh can't take any time off We're going to go to The Hague - has anybody been? Don't know anything about it
Cycle screwed up even more this month - am on CD29 today and think am only just ovulating. WTF??? Had given up chess last week thinking we'd put in a good effort and now having to start all over again DH happy though

Those CD's you're doing Becky sound fun for the ds's! Do you get freebies when you do that sort of work? Handy for them if you do! 6 months mat leave isn't too bad, when would you go on it? Are you going to keep working for as long as possible? How many weeks are you now?

Oooh, disgusting story alert - ds got a tick in his hair yesterday Thought it was a scab and on closer inspection it wasn't Got it out with the dogs tick remover, but was so freaked out and terrified that he's going to get Lyme disease Am going to be watching the bite site closely!

Right, have to go out shopping now, but am so sleepy all I want to do is fall into bed! Might try to convince ds to have his nap now actually

hello everyone!
sorry could not read your recent msgs for now cos' just came here to tell you that i just had my baby boy Ibrahim on Monday morning 27th July.
hes 2.9kg at birth n is 48cm long.
Water broke early morning and within less than 2 hours hes out at 5.50am
am carrying him in one arm and back is aching real bad due to the injection on my spine they gave me after giving birth naturally. some bleeding n clotting so had a minor surgery/stitching and was admitted in hospital for 3 days thats why could not update on time..sorryy..
will try to update n put some pics soon..
take care everyonee..

becky, hope your pregnancy goes well
MBM,Poppy n M2O hope all of u r fine..

Oh nandos huge congratulations to you and your dh on the birth of your lovely baby boy I'm sure all your pains will vanish soon and you will have a wonderful time getting to know your wee one. What a beautiful name you have chosen. Can't wait to see pics Well done, take care and enjoy you deserve it.

I had a lovely cuddle with my friends wee grandaughter who is only 5 weeks old. I got to give her a bottle too which was quite exciting for me as I have never done that before as ds was breastfed, so thats another string to my bow Also managed to wind her! Thought I might be out of practice as ds is 7 next wk

becky I'm losing track, how many wks are you now?

mbm yuk re the tick. Poor ds. Hope he will be ok.

My ds is 7 nxt tues and we are having a wee party for him the sat afterwards so will be spending the next wk organising that! I must be mad
My cycles are now almost back to normal since I began the reiki so it must be doing something. Praying that now my body is working better that ttc might be easier one can always hope!

Ooooooh Nandos!!!!!! Yeah!!! Welcome to baby Ibrahim! How lovely that has made my day

Sounds like you had a nice quick labour - wow!!!! Sorry you had to have surgery and go back to hospital - hope you are ok now though.

We need pictures

mbm my DH is the same - I'm taking the DSs by myself to the seaside next week. If he can't come, it is not going to stop us going away.

I've been to the Hague - for one day in 1992 - it was quite a nice, very clean, city if I remember rightly.

I'm doing ok but today my lower back is really hurting, like siatica or something, and today looking after the DSs has been really hard. Bending over is agony My mum reckons the baby is sitting on a nerve and I've just got to coax him or her to move!

I'm going to work until end Oct so two weeks before baby due day! I sometimes get freebies. But I've got the disk on my laptop anyway so we can play with it.

Nice tick story mbm!!!

I hope you are both ok Poppy and m2o.

Oh poppy we were posting at the same time. I am 25 weeks.

Happy birthday to your DS!

Oh Nandos Congratulations!!! What wonderful news!
What a fast labour I hope your dh managed to get there before you had him?
We would LOVE to see some pics of your beautiful baby boy, you must be so proud.
I hope you're not too tired, and that you're enjoying getting to know little Ibrahim, it's such a magical (but knackering) time

Poppy What sort of party is ds having? It's very exciting! What are you getting him for his birthday? That's great re your cycles - I might have to give reiki a go too

Becky 25 weeks!!!!! Oh my goodness me, you haven't got that much longer to go! Are you starting to get all the baby stuff ready?

Poppy, m2o and I have got major catching up to do

Off to bed now, so night night all, and well done again Nandos, I am so thrilled for you

V quick one as am off to a zoo near Antwerp in 5 mins

Just wanted to wish your ds a happy birthday Poppy, hope he has a lovely day!

Nandos How are you doing? How is your gorgeous boy? Hope all is going well!

How are you Becky and m2o?

Byeee xx

Hello everyone!
Just a quick drop by..
am having a 5-day traditional massage at home for the time being. Its meant for expectant and post-natal moms..
I still feel a bit weird having a baby at home lol. Am having doubt if its really my baby
Everyone at home really adores him cos' they say hes so cute I will ask dh to upload some pics on my profile in a min.

Take care everyone

Hi Nandos I know how you feel! But he really is your baby and he's yours for ever I can't wait to see pictures.

We've just got back from a week in Wales.

Poppy hope your DS had a good birthday

mbm hope you had a good time at the zoo!

Off to 'in-laws for lunch today. I've got horrible indigestion - yuck, yuck, yuck!

26 weeks today and counting!

Just seen piccies on your profile Nandos. He is gorgeous!!!!!