***Let's support each other again - Part 2***

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Well ladies, I thought I'd better start us a new thread

May it bring us all good luck, see us through happier times, and at least two new bundles of joy

xxx

Poppy your poor DS! What a trauma for him, and you too. I hope he's ok now.

Fancy bumping into Susan Boyle in Tescos, that's funny!

DH is working all hours at the moment and I am finding that really hard. He's working tomorrow too. I hate his job sometimes I am such a computer widow.

DS3 is six months old today. He's a funny little thing. His latest love is his toes, playing with them and eating them

Poppy I was just shy of 38 when DS3 was born.

Oh Poppy your poor boy Must've been very scary for you and your dh too... Is he feeling better now?
I love that you 'met' Subo!!! Yay!
I really feel for you that things are not happening. It's been such a long time now since we all met, and although it's wonderful that two of us have succeeded in having a little one, it's a very long time to keep positive about the chance for the rest of us. You just never know though. And at 38 you're still a spring chicken One of my friends didn't have her first until she was 40...

Becky So sorry that you're still having sleep and anxiety problems. I sort of know how you feel - have come off the AD's as they were knocking me out during the day, and as a result am not sleeping well at all and keep waking up. Feel like my head is surrounded by fog most of the time. Also been getting increasingly anxious over the last couple of days - think it's to do with going back to work on Monday which I am dreading
It must be v tough with dh working so much, esp today. Somehow, to me, Saturdays always seem longer than a weekday if dh isn't around. He always works on Saturdays so I'm used to it, but then I haven't got three boys to keep occupied! Am sure you're doing a fab job, even if it doesn't feel like it at times...
Bless ds3 for eating his toes, makes my heart melt just thinking about it!

Nandos How are you doing? Hope all is well?

LT Lots of love as always xxx

Well, we are all surviving here, although sometimes I feel like I'm only just keeping my head above water. Can't believe it but am thinking about ttc again Still waiting for AF though so we shall see how long that takes! I just feel desperate to get pregnant again, but oh so absolutely terrified of doing so .
Am dreading Monday and going back to work - one of the two ladies that I work with all day is pregnant (not sure if I mentioned her?) and she is due 3 days before I was Have made myself see her a couple of times over the last month so her bump is not such a shock on Monday, but everytime I think about it I feel like my heart is breaking. She's absolutely lovely though, and is very understanding, which will make it easier I hope. There is another lady at work who's pg too, due a month before the other one, so they're all going to be chatting about babies. Feel like drugging myself up on something so I don't feel anything. How on earth do I get through it? Most people don't know what happened with me, so they will probably come and tell me how blooming so-and-so is. I shall just collapse in a heap if they do that. I so wish I didn't have to go back.

Anyway, enough ranting from me... Hope you all have a lovely weekend, and I shall be back soon. Lots and lots of love to you all xxx

PS Have just read back through, but head is such a mess that I can't take in what I wrote but am going to post it anyway! Hope it all makes sense, and apologies if it doesn't x

mbm it does make sense. The sleep and anxiety is the same for me and it does come and go. Have you tried something like hypnotherapy CDs? I think they are great and I am sure I'd be ten times worse than I am without Paul McKenna on hand.

I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. It'll be hard I am sure but you're strong. I think it is very positive that you are thinking about TTCing, and rightly so. I am rooting for you. And Poppy too I don't want to give you false hope but there is always hope, even if it seems like just a small glimmer. There is always hope.

Life is so strange. I feel so guilty for struggling when I have been so lucky with my babies. Why am I struggling? I really don't know. I think hormones have a lot to do with it but I feel sooooo guilty.

How is everyone?

Hi ladies
So sorry not posted sooner, how are you all? Becky are you feeling any better? I hope you are, and that sleep is coming a little easier for you now...

Poppy and Nandos How are you both?

Things here are okay. Am off to the Uk with ds tomorrow, and am dreading it. It's the first time I;ve been back since mum's funeral. Am desperate to see my dad and brother, and friends, but feel sick about walking into the house again and mum not being there
Work's been pretty awful. It's absolute torture, every second of every day. I come out every afternoon and burst into tears once I reach the car. It's awful. Only 5 more weeks to get through after this one though, and then it'll be summer hols for two months thank goodness.

Has anyone got anything nice planned for the summer? We haven't really, just the odd trip here and there. It'll be nice not to have to do anything!

Nandos When are the twins due? You must have quite a bump by now? How is ds doing? Hope you're not too tired.

Poppy Not sure if I've asked this or whether you've mentioned it but would you ever have any tests done to see what's going on? I would never have found out about my endometriosis if I hadn't gone to see someone. How is your arthritis? I hope it's under control and that you're not in too much pain. Is your ds okay? I hope so.

Hi LT if you're lurking. Lots of love as always xxx

Better go as need to sort out hand luggage bags and get the DVD player on charge for ds! Love to you all xxx

mbm I feel for you, I hope your weekend goes ok. Thinking of you.

Sorry that work is hard too. But two months off will give you some breathing space at least. We haven't much planned for the summer yet.

Nandos I hope you're ok with your growing babies!

Hi Poppy and LT

How is everyone?

Soooo sorry Becky, I didn't see your post!!! We have all been a bit slack on this thread recently haven't we!

I can't actually write much as have got my lovely daddy here at the moment but I really hope you're all okay?

My AF has finally started btw, 10 weeks after losing the baby. Have been really worried about it! Now got quite welcome mild AF pains, bring it on!

Better dash, but will pop back soon! xxx

Hi everyone

So sorry I've not been on for ages but just seem to have had a nightmare time recently. My arthritis has flared up really badly and I have had a few hospital trips to have things injected and hands splinted which has been just marvellous!!!

Ds seems to be a bit better just now but we have a referral to ent to try and find out whats going on.

Also gran has had another date for knee op (first was cancelled due to a heart murmour) and it falls when my mum and dad are in cyprus on hol which will be a nightmare but she is having no talk of it being postponed again so July will be a fun month!

mbm I am so pleased you are getting to spend some time with your family - it must be lovely for you.

We did have tests done a few years ago and I had a lap done and apparantly we were "fine" so we were then dismissed to get on with it! Tbh am now beginning to feel tired of ftc and am thinking about one last attempt at something new. There is a natural fertility clinic in Edinburgh which sounds quite good and am thinking it may be worth our while to give that a shot before the window of opportunity closes for us!

My rheumatologist is pretty sick of me not moving on to newer drugs which may control my arthur better and she has written on my form "poppy is still doggedly trying to conceive" as the rheumy nurse showed it to me when I was at hosp getting hands injected! I didn't know whether to laugh or cry

becky hope you are getting more sleep now and feeling better. Hope all your boys are well.

nandos how many weeks pg are you now. You must be tired but excited.

Love poppy xx

Hello everyone, how are things? We're fine here. Toby is now 7.5 months old and keeping us awake again. Maybe teeth? Who knows. He is still a complete gummy bear at the moment! DS1 and DS2 are well and happy, excited about the summer holiday coming up.

Poppy so sorry to hear about your arthritis. Oh what a strange thing to write on your form! I think you should laugh Keep a sense of humour - the only way I think.

mbm how are you doing?

Nandos when are the twins due????

We're going bathroom shopping today.

Hello! How are you all?

Becky can't belive Toby is almost 8 months old already! How time flies! How are you enjoying your summer holiday so far? Am presuming the boys have broken up? We finished on the 2nd July, but I haven't got a clue when the UK school finish... What have you got planned for the summer?

Poppy So sorry not to have replied sooner, both to yours and Becky's posts. I'm so sorry to hear that things have been tough with the arthritis. It must be so difficult and painful for you.
Has your gran had her op yet? If so, how did it go, and how are you managing looking after her? You have so many things going on at the moment, am thinking of you lots.
Did you go to the natural fertilty clinic? I hope they managed to give you some hope? It's awful, this not knowing whether we will be lucky enough to have another one. I'm sort of coming to the conclusion that it's never going to happen for us I never thought I'd say that, but our situation kind of points to that being the case. I am slowly starting to accept that this could be the outcome, although it is difficult. At least we have our precious ds's though.

Nandos How are you doing? We are anxious to hear how you are, so hope you come back soon to let us know!

Things are ticking along here. I've started counselling/therapy, and it feels like she's chipping away at a massive block of something inside at least. She makes me cry a lot, which I suppose has to be a good thing, but is a bit embarrasing
Anyway, I had better go and get ds some supper... Love to you all xxx

Hi ladies

Sorry not been on for ages just seem to have been sooo busy.

Gran's op got cancelled and she got sent home from hosp that day with the lines and all drawn on her leg! Usual lack of beds. Hosp phoned me and asked if they could send her home to my house as I had her key! I nearly passed out when they phoned me at 10.30am in morn after my poor mum had got up at 5am on her last day of work before she retired and drove a 60mile round trip to take gran in to hosp for 7am!!!

After much harassment she is now booked in for end of this month (her birthday)

My poor db has also just been told the company he works for will be leaving scotland next year so they will all lose their jobs

mbm I still haven't phoned natural fertility clinic yet not really sure why I am procrastinating as it really is last chance.

I am glad your counselling seems to be helping. Things have been so tough for you this year it is good to do something positive.

becky I can't believe how time has flown and how grown up Toby must be getting. It only seems like yesterday that you were pg

nandos hope you are ok and things are progressing well.

My only bright news is that last week I attended the Royal Garden Party in Holyrood Palace and seen the Queen and Prince Philip. I got my invite due to long service as a Girlguider. Had a lovely time and wore posh frock etc. V good.

Love Poppy xx

Hello guys! I haven't been on for ages either. It is now school hols. Day one over. Phew.

Ooooh fancy meeting the Queen and Prince Philip! My biggest claim to fame is Johnny Morris. Prince Charles once drove past the back of our primary school and we all stood and waved with home-made flags.

No major news here - Toby is now sitting by himself. No teeth yet.

Hello everyone, hope you are all enjoying the summer hols. I'm home alone (as in without DH) at the moment and finding it quite hard without him. He's in Brussels at the moment (is that where you live, mbm if so if you see a really tall lost-looking man in a suite, with no tie (he forgot his tie), reading his iphone, then say 'hi'!).

Nandos when are you due? How are things?

Ooh Becky I've just seen your message!!! You should've come with your dh - then we could have met up
How long's he here for? I'm actually a little out of Brussels, but should be going into town sometime this week so I shall look out for him!

Poppy Soooo sorry I didn't reply to your last message, and you too Becky I think it's because our thread keeps dropping off the list, and me being a numpty keep forgetting to check up on what's going on. So sorry I missed you both.

Poppy That's so exciting that you met the queen! Have you got any photo's of you in your posh frock that you can post? Bet you had a lovely time! It must've been fab to go to!
Has your Gran had her op yet? If so I hope it went well? Your poor mum doing that then it being cancelled. It's ridiculous that that should happen!
Sorry to hear about your poor db too It's a difficult time isn't it.

Things here are okay - some time last week I felt like I'd turned a bit of a corner, and am now feeling quite a bit better about things. I don't know what happened, I just woke up one morning and felt lighter somehow. Am glad that I didn't start on the AD's that I was supposed to be taking. I'm seeing my shrink person next week and am looking forward to telling her I am feeling lots better Am sure it'll be tricky when I go back to school in September as my friends baby is due then, and I'm going to have to put on such a brave face, but I know I am strong enough now to get through it. I think time away from bumps in my face has really helped.

Anyway, hope you're all okay... Nandos you're being really quiet, is everything alright?

Love to all and I promise to check back sooner this time! xxx

Hey everyone!

Been a loong time since i typed anything on MN. Been v bz with travelling in May/June and been ill in July and Ibraheem admitted to hosp for diahrrea as well.
Sory had a run thru with th posts on MN and thank god evryone's doing fine :)
Had chck-ups and scans recently and babies doing well appantly.
Am curently abt 34 wks and walking like a snail's pace. They are abt 2kg each and i cant wait for my due date which is around end of this mth.
Have been having severe heartburn for mths now but cant do anything much :( btw cs is scheduled on the 27th of this mth but after the scan showed that both heads are down, might considr natural birth with epidural.
No way am going thru with just gas/air that too with twins !
Anyways gotta go sleep now as its past 12mn here..
take care all

luv,
nandos

mbm he was only there for one night (sunday night). He got back at midnight Monday. He's now in Berlin!

Nandos wow!!!! Are you prepared? You're soon going to be very, very busy!!!!

mbm I'm so pleased that you are feeling better. I'm not sure ADs are the answer necessarily as they are just a temporary plaster really. I'm glad I didn't take any either after the doctor thought I might have mild PND (well I did take them for three days and they made me feel so awful).

Anyway, must dash, expecting boss to phone any second and she's late!

Wow nandos can't believe you are soon to be a mummy to twins the time seems to have flown by! Glad you and Ibraheem better now - it is awful seeing your wee one poorly.

mbm glad you are finding the counselling helpful but it must be hard as well. My dh was really quite depressed last year for many reasons and he was close to needing AD's but I got him some st john's wort as in the past my brother had used them and within a couple of weeks he felt better and at the end of a month he had really turned a corner and the gnawing, panicky, angry and low feelings were lifting and he was much more like his old self. Understand this may not be any use to you but always another option

My gran is now the proud owner of a new knee. She had the op 2 weeks ago and is making a slow and painful recovery. She is very glad my mum retired at the end of term!

Will try and post a photo of garden party soon. We only got a group one as no cameras were allowed - boo.

We are off to Aviemore tomorrow for the weekend. Looking forward to it as haven't had a holiday this year as my gran looks after my cat while we go and wasn't sure how long she would be in hosp etc.

Last week was Ds's 8th birthday. He was delighted as my mum and dad got him a dsi!!! Big hit.

I have finally made apt for natural fertility clinic. We go next month and first apt is with a "conception coach" Dh can't wait lol

Take care love poppy xxx

Helloo everyone!

Its been two weeks since my last post and I am here to say that Ive given birth safely on the 13th Aug to a little girl and a little boy named Amir and Amirah.
Boy is abt 2.3kg and girl is abt 1.8kg.
Got admitted on the 12th morning cos' water broke couple of hours after I wrote on MN. Guessed that makes sense for my erratic typing when I read my last post again
Well this time round didnt have any pains till the next morning but they monitored me due to the continuous water leaking from me. Had contractions afterwards and they scanned me again to figure out the best choice of giving bith and it was EMCS cos' little Amir kept turning till hes breech so it was a bit risky to have natural birth.
Anywayz both are a little over 2kg each and doing well. Had to give formula milk as breast milk is insufficient for both .
Also not doing too good atm and I think have to see doc' today due to bladder infection or something..
Anywayz got to take some rest now while babies are asleep.

will ry to catch up with the posts/MN soon.
take care

Congratulations nandos was just thinking about you and wondering how you were
Glad everything went well and you now have your lovely babies - look forward to seeing a pic
Take care of yourselves and hope you are feeling a bit better now. Off for reiki now so post more later.
Again congratulations.

Love poppy xxx

Nandos CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! That's lovely, lovely news :)

Boo! :)

Nandos Sooo sorry, I missed your announcement Congratulations! What lovely news How are they both doing now? How are you?

Love to you all, and hope you're okay - am struggling under a mountain of gingerbread that ds and I have just made so must dash! Will check back soon xxx

Hi all

nandos hope you and your family are doing well and babies are bringing you lots of joy.

becky how are you doing?

mbm mmm yum gingerbread sounds good. Hope you are well.

We had our first apt with the natural fertility clinic last week and it went very well. Seen a lovely conception coach who has given us advice etc and now I have to check out my ewcm and report back. Also next month we have to go to a nutritionalist. I have also been advised to put on weight as bmi is 19 and she wants it higher. Easier said than done for me though as illness/meds have caused weight loss in past and v hard to gain it back. Will try though.

Have also been plagued by a very sore neck for the last 3 months. Have seen docs numerous times, had massages, accupunture but to no avail and now it is causing my migraines to come back with a vengeance. Have spent all morn in bed feeling ill today but had to get up as ds kept checking on me to see how I was and didn't want to worry him. Have just finished drawing him a tom and jerry cartoon.

Off for a cuppa.

Love poppy xxx

Hello all, Poppy poor you - hope you feel better now. I've only had one migraine and it was just very, very strange. My mum used to get them. But fancy being told to put on weight! It all sounds very positive though :)

mbm yummm I want some too!

We're all fine. Busy, busy, busy. Life is settling down a bit and I am sleeping better, with just the odd wobble. We have builders in at the moment doing the top floor of the house and putting in a new bathroom. So the house is cold (as they leave all the doors open) and noisy (still DS3 manages to have his naps and sleep through it all).

Nandos I hope you and all your babies are doing well :)