Going Clucking mental? Old birds gather round.....

[Gingerbreadlady1]

A thread for the older ttc'er. Join us in the chicken coop for support, advice or just somewhere to rant.

Here's the old thread for those wanting to do serious lurking:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1978730-Old-birds-wanna-join-the-coop?msgid=47008448#47008448

Thanks Annie

It's weird, my cycles are really regular, no other symptoms apart from what she saw. Got a lovely weekend away with dh, just feel depressed and useless. Don't want to go, want to hide under the duvet and not come out.

Oh patch don't let this get you down. You'll feel better when you've spoken to your GP. It may be PCOS but may not. Sonographers are technicians so they are tied to what they can say really. Mine (sadly I've met them all!) are both v quiet men and I shit myself waiting for them to say something and it's usually a stammered "errr I can't confirm anything. I can see a cyst there". And then no explanation at all because that's not their job and I have to wait to hear anlysis from GP or ob/gyn Which is crap but I'm sure your GP will reassure you when you see him/her. Now go and enjoy your lovely weekend that DP has planned for you!!

Oh dear, feel I may be joining you under the Duvet of Doom, patch.

I have started spotting- 7DPO . I know it's not implantation bleeding, because pretty much the same has happened about 3 cycles in a row, except that I've had no idea of my ovulation date until now. I think AF will be here either today or tomorrow, giving me a 7 or 8 day luteal phase, and a 22-23 day cycle. Bollocks. There is something wrong with me.

The awful thing is that my cycles have been pretty regular for at least the last 20 years- and the moment we start TTC they've gone to pot. Which has pretty much coincided with my 40th birthday .

I'd really like to ask ginger about this, because I think she suffers from the same thing, but think she's off to Mexico about now....

With any luck you'll crawl out under from the Duvet of Doom soon patch, and be ready to start afresh with renewed optimism. Isn't that strange to have regular cycles with PCOS? Do you have kids already?

I'm whipping the duvet of doom off of you stubborn whilst proudly brandishing natural prog cream! Taa daaaa!

Don't leave till tomorrow. You may have low progestetone or eostrogen dominance which can mess up your lp? Also have you had your prolactin levels checked? Elevated prolactin causes merry buggery to cycles. The good news is npc seems near impossible to take too much off (if the cream) & if it is Actually at ok levels, taking extra wont cause any real problems. ( stress I'm not a dr, just from my on line research). Also b6 supplements.

Seems to be helping me, way less spotting & currently 12dpo (usually 10 on clomid). Poas this morning, bfn, which means AF will come today as she always comes immediately after poas. Mocking bitch.

Oh & patch I was also told I have "a touch of pcos" . Really not convinced either .....

Awww, thanks ginger! God, you should see me this morning, surfing adoption websites and sobbing convulsively whilst trying to keep a thermometer in my gob! I'm nothing if not a drama queen.....

(re: the adoption- neither DP or I are bothered by having to have our own biological child- but the information out there is daunting. I really question whether I have the patience and commitment to bring up a child with special needs, looking at how difficult I find it sometimes to deal with a normal, lively child like DS)

I'm really glad the cream is helping. I was recommended it a while back for PMT, but had a quick google and found that it hadn't seemed to make any difference in trials (for PMT, that is). I'm already on Agnus Castus- for the PMT- and it doesn't seem to have stopped my cycles shortening- or the PMT, for that matter. Maybe I'll give everything a break, get some more testing done, and start to reintroduce alternative remedies.

I had one 21 day test done, and my levels were a little low, but it may have been mistimed. I'll book another one for the next cycle, furnished with the knowledge of when I at least think I'm ovulating.....Don't know about prolactin- does it get covered in the Day 3 tests? If so, everything is "normal".

Thanks for replying btw ginger! Sorry about the BFN, but at least your LP is now officially "normal".....Have a lovely holiday if we don't hear from you before you go....xxx

I should amend the above post....Neither DP nor I are bothered by having to have our own biological child together. I already have one- fathered by Mr Wrong, sadly.

Ok, I'm new here, please be kind, I've stalked for a long while but don't hold it against me.

I'm floored today, BF dumped me by text last night and a +ve OPK today on CD 39, I had thought I wasn't going to ov after a cp last cycle.

Totally gutted, he lives away so no chance any recent activity would result in pg. probably for the best but I'm still grieving for the cp and now for one that 'may have been'.

I'm glad I've ov'd at least it means at 41 I'm still in working order somewhat. First ever +ve HPT last cycle and first ever +ve OPK this cycle.

He was perfect, obviously too good to be true, introduced me to his kids last Saturday, promised me everything, holiday booked in August, wanted more children etc etc. then last night he's "not ready for a relationship". Total b@stard.

For once I am certain this time it's not me. Totally baffled, confused, angry, fed up, gutted.

Prior to him I was looking at solo parenting, think I'll start researching seriously now, past men in my life have been nightmares!

Sorry for the rant but needed to get it out x

I'm sorry your feeling so shite, ttc is rubbish. Wish we didn't want a baby & could be satisfied with our current life, be so much easier.

Re prolactin, I'd specifically ask as it was mentioned casually after second set of bloods and was near 900 when it should be no more than 300!

Hope you have a great weekend & get spoiled to help you cheer up

Anyone experienced ov like pains when AF imminent?

Yes- me! I had them terribly yesterday- and killer PMT, and terrible cramping- bah! I had a good old look on the TCOYF forums (have you found them? Total mine of information!).

It's normal apparently .

Oh smiler love, welcome, I'm so so sorry. Big hugs and and . You don't have to plan and work out what's going to happen in your life right now (wish I could follow my own advice there )- just take some time off to look after yourself and snuggle up under the Duvet of Doom for a couple of nights...

gingerI hope you're going to do some intensive research into the effects of the mescal worm on the TTC process! (It's hairy you know....a big white hairy pickled worm. Yum).

Ah yes, and I will try to get an actual printout of my bloods off the doctor- just trying to work out how to phrase it: "I want a printout so I can show it to all my fellow obsessives off the internet. Who obviously know more about fertility than you, a doctor". (scrumples up first draft and throws it in the bin).

smiler I'm sorry I missed your post earlier. You are very welcome here. I'm so so so sorry about your bf. he ended it by text?!?? I don't use this word lightly (apologies ladies) but what an utter c*#t!!!!

My heart really goes out to you. I'm off for a couple of wks but hope you're still with us on here when im back as the ladies are a fantastic support to each other. No need to make any quick decisions any time soon but maybe this will give you some comfort,my friends wife (gay couple) is currently around 26 wks following (first cycle) ivf with donor sperm. All on nhs (paid for sperm privately).

stubborn will report back in 2wks on effects of a wide range of mescal when ttc. I come from a scientific background so take this shit seriously

Tell your dr your thinking of going private so test results would be useful for initial consultation?

Thank you for the warm welcome, believe me it means a lot.

I am residing under the duvet of doom with a bottle of wine and The Notebook.

I will hang around, even though I can't actively TTC I'll share my solo journey if anyone is interested. Post 40, single and actively researching! Xx

Hi everyone hope your all having a good bank holiday weekend, some if you are going on their hols..not jealous at all !!
The bleeding has become quite fresh again the last 2 days and I had what I think were AF cramps yesterday, so I'm hoping this will soon be over
( physically) that is
We have decided to start trying as soon as it stops and see what happens

The sun is shining here! Hope you're all having a good bank holiday if you're off.

Tilly good to hear your bleeding is coming to an end and you've decided to keep ttc.

How long have you been bleeding? I've been bleeding for 26 days now although it's down to a few spots every other day now. I temp and POAS so I know I ovulated on CD22 which was 4 days ago and expect period around 6th June. Will be great to get back to a normal cycle!

How are you feeling about it now? I'm feelng so much better about everything now. I've accepted that I may have a couple more mc's but this struggle will be so worth it in the end if we do ever have a baby.

The suns shining here too but I'm working this afternoon
I've been bleeding on and off since Good Friday!! Haven't counted the weeks, it's been 3 weeks since I had the medical management and I've had a negative pregnancy test
I haven't done any ov tests this month as yet
I feel much better ( still cry at random things though) glad to hear your feeling better Annie
I also feel I can deal with things much better now and can't wait to start trying again

Hi all!
Hope everyone is ok. Been having a quiet few days, largely thinking of rainy day activities to do with DC1 as half term weather is lousy!

Just a few questions to share!
First one: has anyone any advice about opks? I have never used, wonder if worth doing and if easy to do? I really don't have time to do temperature before I move first thing in morning as I am usually woken up by DC1 leaping on me!

OH has man flu so not dtd this month as much as would like. Have to hope that some of our ahem pre-lurgy activity was around the right time.

Never exactly sure when that is as the whole luteal phase thing on the mumsnet ovulation chart is a bit of a mystery to me, I just try to dtd when I am over the AF and as much as possible mid cycle.

I do wonder though if there is actually time for any lucky fertilised egg to actually implant if my cycle is only 25 days. (I still have to go & see GP, when I think about it, have been not exactly rushing to make appointment as almost not knowing is better, ridiculous I know but thinking now I will ring if I get AF again when I'm due).

Hi fireflyz, 25 days is fine for a cycle per se- I conceived several times with a 25/26 day cycle. What is important is the length of the luteal phase- how long the egg could have to implant before AF arrives.

I can't give you any more info because I don't know myself! I'm going mad here! I thought I was having pre-AF spotting about 6-7 DPO, and got really sad because it meant that I have a short LP.....the spotting lasted for 4 days, and for the last 3 days I have had nix. Nada. Nothing.

I am now on CD29 with no sign of AF,which is almost unprecedented for me. And yes, I did a test yesterday- BFN. This is my first month temping, and my temperatures have been all over the place, not helped by terrible insomnia. I can't tell whether I ovulated, or whether this is a "classic anovulatory cycle". Temps up again today....I'm in bloody limbo. Aaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhh!

How many DPO are you now Stubborn? Limboland is nuts. I'm going mad too. 7DPO here and I've had really bad rage for the last few days. Totally want to kills some politicians on the telly who make my blood boil. I also went on a seriously whiney nagging rant to DH last night in bed about him smoking (5 a day) and how he must want to smoke more than he wants a baby nag nag nag. I want to rip all his fags up and throw them all over the kitchen. I'm also having major sex dreams and wake up really horny. I must be sheer joy to live with.

poor you stubborn, you never know it might be to early and you might get a BFP in the next few days!!
Fireflyz I use the monitor and did get pregnant after 4 months of using it and it did show when I ovulated (obviously not a sticky enough bean though :( )
My moods are all over the place at the moment Annie, keep biting DH head off for no real reason (we did DTD this morning though for the first time in 6 weeks!!) :)

Hopefully the horny outweighs the grumpy for your DH Annie...

Well, I think yesterday I would have been 12/13DPO- if I ovulated....But that should be late enough to get a BFP if I am pregnant, surely?

AF due in 5 days I think or 6 if cycle goes to 26 days... Feeling nervous!

PS probably not much point in dtd now, what do you think? (Except for fun haha!)

Hi ladies, sorry I haven't been around for a bit, we've moved house this week, I'd forgotten what hard work it is!! Af also put in an unwelcome appearance, we were both really hopeful this cycle as we'd dtd loads at the right time. Oh well, on to next cycle. I'll catch up with the thread later as dp has a night shift.