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fanjodisfunction · 23/03/2012 20:05

May this thread bring us luck and lots of support through the journey of life after the death of our little ones.

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RueDeWakening · 04/04/2012 20:01

People in RL think that now I have my baby that should be it, almost like one baby can replace another.
Razz this is one big problem we had with our surviving triplet, the other two were/are rarely/never acknowledged. It's as if coming out of it with one baby should be enough, IYSWIM. But it doesn't stop the grief or sense of something missing that should be there. Be gentle on yourself and take your time, it will get easier.

Someone sent me this when we lost our two boys, and it's true too - I found it comforting, I hope you all do too (there was an image which helped explain it, but I can't post it here):

Growing with Grief

The woman?s child had died some years before. At this time, she said, grief consumed her totally, filling every part of her life, awake and asleep. She drew a picture with a circle to represent her life and shading to represent her grief. She had imagined that as time went by the grief would shrink and become neatly encapsulated in her life, in a small and manageable way; she was realistic enough to assume that it would not go away entirely. But what happened was different. The grief stayed just as big, but her life grew around it. There were times, anniversaries or moments which reminded her of her child, when she operated entirely from out of the shaded circle in her life and her grief felt just as intense as it ever had been. But, increasingly, she was able to experience life in the larger circle.

TooImmatureTurtleDoves · 04/04/2012 20:25

Miasmum, that is fantastic, congratulations! Thanks Have fun in France - sounds great even without the wine and cheese.

Rue, sorry AF got you. Hope you have better luck this month.

Razz, honey, I'm so sorry to hear you're so sad at the moment. I went through exactly the same thing. Couldn't stop crying, was miserable all the time, felt like I was letting Maia down because I kept crying over her and feeling totally unable to make any decisions, even simple ones like should I change her nappy now, or feed her a bit first and then change it. You and I had very similar timescales with the rainbow baby being born just before the first anniversary of our angel babies. I felt like I just couldn't cope - I started researching post natal depression because I felt so hopeless. However, it became clear that it wasn't PND but grief for Thea - I didn't feel indifferent to Maia or resent her in any way or think about abandoning her. It did pass. I posted on here about it and in some ways just acknowledging it helped. I have stopped crying randomly for no reason, although my grief does feel fresher than it has for some time. I'm sure hormones and lack of sleep didn't help! Maia is a delight and a wonder, even when she wakes me up only 15 minutes after I finally managed to put her down at 5am Grin. She does help. I remember Spilt and Angel posting about their experiences of this fresh grief after their rainbows were born. I think I was so absorbed with worry about Maia when I was pregnant that all this pain for Thea was stored up and then came out in a flood. I'm rambling now so I'll shut up, but this too shall pass and you will start to feel more normal soon.

Angel and Fan, well done with the weight loss! You are both stars. Nearly at a stone already - that's brilliant. Slimmer of the Week, Angel! Kudos!

Miasmum, you're spot on by saying we have no emotional resilience any more. I was thinking something very similar yesterday when just reading a story about a prem baby in the paper made me want to cry. I don't feel like I could cope with any emotional trauma any more - I've used up all my strength.

Elly, hope you feel better soon. TTC is such a headf*ck in our situation, and I say that despite only having 5/6 weeks of it. What you ladies who have been trying for a year feel like I shudder to think. Going back to work is really hard too, because it feels like life is moving on.

Wtw, hope tomorrow's appt goes well!

Cheese, yay for Ella's weight gain!

Maia and I are doing pretty well. She's now passed her birth weight (as of last Wed, anyway - she was 6lb 10 then) and feeding seems to be going ok. She does lots of cluster feeding in the middle of the night, though - the longest sleep I've had in a fortnight is about 2 hours in one go! Gaaah. But she is so beautiful and sweet that it's all worth it. DH goes back to work next Tues - I hope I can cope on my own!

fanjodisfunction · 04/04/2012 21:02

too great to hear from you and glad that Maia is doing so well, well done on the weight gain, all these new babies must be where mine and angels weight loss is going. lol

Nearly a year TTC is a real pisser I can tell you, but without you girls and my DH I dont think I would have been able to do it every month. I havnt really had any symptoms this month, but that could be because I have been riding into work all week due to the car being broken. So I have been feeling sick but have put it down to over exercising and not being used to it. I have been tired but putting that down to exercising as well. I am due AF on sunday if the last few AF's are anything to go by, but Im not holding my breath. This month is Ophelias month and always will be, its sad to think that a year ago this week I was looking forward to mat leave, also my parents coming home from their round the world trip and the birth of my first child, the child we ttc'd 18 months for. Shed so many tears for, never thought we would get there and then we did, we were so happy, the baby we had wished for was nearly here. And now all we have is a box full of scraped together memories.
DH and I have got Fi's week off and the week after, not sure what we shall do, probably go to her place where we spend her ashes, but other than that we have planned for day trips and a few days away in Bath, Dorset and well anywhere else that takes our fancy.
I really cant believe its been nearly a year, it doesnt feel that long, but then it feels like an age as we are still not pg! Ive been trying to keep myself busy at work, thinking that I cant let my grief take over now I have things to do, it can wait till our weeks off, and I think I have succeeded at least from monday.
I really wish I was pg, but I really dont think I am. Im expecting to wake up on sunday and fine AF on her way. If I am not I think a trip to the doctors is in order for me and DH. I stress so much about him, I know I have fibroids which seam to make it a little more difficult for me to concieve but I need to know that he is ok, that his cycling, and other things have not limited his sperm. I feel awful thinking about it, as he does take care of himself, but he also drinks, I do not as well I think If I am ttcing then I shouldnt (so I havnt drunk for 3 years). He doesnt drink in excess (well not often, as he says hes a west of scotland man!) but it does sit at the back of my head wondering if it does anything to his sperm count.

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blizy · 04/04/2012 21:19

Oh fan - I have the same worries about Dh's swimmers, he too likes a "wee" drink most Saturdays. He also works with mobile phone masts and I worry that the radiation from them is spoiling his little guys! Although he reassures me that this is not the case.

Too- fab to hear from you, I'm glad Maia is doing well.

Razz- I am sorry you are feeling down, I can it echo very one else's words. Hugs. Heading your way. X

Mia's- have a fab trip to France!

AngelGeorgie · 04/04/2012 22:40

Too thanks. Glad Maia is doing well. I remember being scared the first day Ant returned to work now it's easier when he's not here. I can get me & Phebs out the house at a decent time , he keeps us waiting, forgets or looses stuff!!!!
Weight gain is good though it makes me chuckle all these tiny babies when my Phebs was a whopping 10.05 oz when born!!!!Grin
Razz xxxx
Fan sounds like you ve got some nice days out planned have some nice quality time with your DH. Xxx
Sorry about AF Rue xxx
Hi Blizy how are you? Xx
Have a lovely break Miasmum xx
Good luck tomorrow Whatever xx
Love to all; last settling in session at nursery tomorrow before D day on Tuesday!!!
What is this weather about??? From sunglasses & flip flops to scarf, gloves & coat in a week!!! Gotta love the UK!!!!

blizy · 05/04/2012 07:26

Hi angel, I'm doing ok thanks. Just waiting on Dh coming back home for the weekend hoping we don't miss ov with his working away.

Eeek phoebe in nursery already- where has the time gone? I am sure she will be fine and have a great time. I don't if i have said before but I am a childminder and have settled loads of babies into care. If you need help with anything just ask.

Fan- your day tips with Dh sound like fun. I will be meeting Dh in London for the weekend over the summer, we will hopefully travel down to Dorset to monkey world.

I hope you all have a good day.

AngelGeorgie · 05/04/2012 07:38

Thanks Blizy time has certainly flown by ... Can t believe I m returning to work only seems 2 minutes since I finished. If I ve any queries I know where to come thanks. Monkey world sounds great , we re off to Tropical world in Leeds. Lived 15 miles from it for years eventually going!!! Hope u catch ov !!! Xxxx

Whatevertheweather · 05/04/2012 08:03

Monkey World is absolutely brilliant Blizy!

Off to Suffolk this evening to stay with friends over Easter, can't wait! Fx for mw this afternoon first though xx

Whatevertheweather · 05/04/2012 16:55

Heard a lovely clear gallopy heartbeat - yay GrinGrin

fanjodisfunction · 05/04/2012 17:48

wtw yayyyyy!

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AngelGeorgie · 05/04/2012 18:07

Fab xxx Whatever enjoy your weekend away xxx

RueDeWakening · 05/04/2012 20:09

wtw :o :o :o lovely lovely sound xx

TooImmatureTurtleDoves · 05/04/2012 21:52

Wtw, hurray!

fanjodisfunction · 06/04/2012 08:25

Sometimes I think it would be really great to meet all of you in person, if there wasn't the whole country in the middle.

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TooImmatureTurtleDoves · 06/04/2012 12:50

It really would, Fan. Are Blizy and I the farthest north? I know Mel is in Fife, but she's not been around for ages. I hope everything is going well for her - she must be getting close to the end now. I can't remember where you are, though - my English geography basically covers London and Preston and that's about it Blush.

fanjodisfunction · 06/04/2012 17:21

too live down on the south coast near Portsmouth. And wtw lives in the next town. Yeah I hope all the other ladies mel, dachs etc are doing well.

Ive been doing my balcony today, planted lots of herbs, lavender and some nectar rich flowering plants. Can wait for it all to start growing and the balcony to look lovely!

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AngelGeorgie · 06/04/2012 17:45

I live in West Yorkshire so miles away from everyone!!!!Wink

spilttheteaagain · 06/04/2012 18:13

I am in Gloucestershire so also a bit on my tod. It's nice down here though Smile

TooImmatureTurtleDoves · 06/04/2012 21:03

West Yorkshire isn't so far from Edinburgh, Angel. Have had to find a map of England to locate Gloucestershire and Portsmouth Blush - yes, we are very far flung!

Fan, your balcony garden sounds lovely. DH has planted lavender near our front door so it smells nice as you go in and out, but so far the bushes are very small.

blizy · 06/04/2012 22:10

Too, I'm only 40 mins away from you. I live between Glasgow and Stirling. It is a shame that we all live so far apart.

I have been thinking about melmal, I hope she is ok.

I hope a you all have a lovely weekend, Dh and I are just chilling and enjoying our time together before he heads back to Essex on Monday.

Fan- how are you feeling? Any sign of a yet?

fanjodisfunction · 07/04/2012 03:23

blizy well no deffinite signs of AF, I feel a bit weird actually, I have some cold symptoms, also I'm tired but finding it hard to sleep. I have been feeling sick when I was bending over yesterday and I have lower back ache (but that could be from the bending over) just have to wait it out till monday I think.

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RueDeWakening · 07/04/2012 08:40

Well I'm in S London, so hopefully you won't need the map to know where that is, too Grin

fan fx for Monday.

shakeyjake · 07/04/2012 09:06

I am in good old sunny Warrington, so only just down the motorway from Preston. :)

fanjodisfunction · 07/04/2012 09:21

Wow we are from all corners of the country aren't we. All those accents, if we were to meet.

I have a headache and I just don't feel right, trying not to get my hopes up. CD28 today so AF due either tomorrow or monday, we shall see.

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shakeyjake · 07/04/2012 10:48

fx fan i really hope this is your month

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