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Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 3

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Curlylox · 29/03/2011 20:29

As you were ladies Smile

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louisesh · 15/04/2011 08:36

Panashe ((()))
Hi Italian X
MOrning all.Good times: day off work
Bad times: Full of crappy cold.

Diege · 15/04/2011 08:51

Morning Smile
Panache sorry you're feeling so low, but of course entirely understandable Sad
Hi Italian, Louise - sorry about cold, just what you need!
I have a migraine that isn't being touched by paracetemol...not that I'd expect it to as I usually use prescription stuff. The aim is to get through the day with the dcs all at home!
Hope everyone else is ok; will be running the bistro tonight!

TinaO99 · 15/04/2011 09:56

hey italian and lol I managed to persuade my daughter's first choice uni to reconsider and they're giving her another interview next week so good news!

Hubby also has an interview and set of tests for a new job today so fingers crossed! His current company are doing their very best to give him the sack and so we've had to engage the services of a trade union rep to try and get them to come to a compromise - ie give him his pay in lieu of notice and any accrued holidays - big worry as we've got a huge mortgage and credit card debts to pay each month - hopefully by this time next week he'll have got the compromise and the new job, my daughetr will get her uni place and then maybe one day soon a BFP (we can but dream) Grin

hi to everyone else hope you're all well?

hippychick66 · 15/04/2011 12:21

tina - good things come in 3's so fingers crossed it all comes together for you.

lol ShockShock I would not put up with that - pooing into a bag!!!! You are a game bird arn't you Grin

diege Erm can I place an early order for the bistro - chips, fish and mushy peas!!! Not sure why I fan cy it so much Wink Sorry the sickness is still around. Surely it should wain in the next couple of weeks.

lou I thought you meant you'd tripped over my boobs not the copter Grin Then I re-read it and got it - ha ha. Sorry about the cold.

jolls whoo hoo where are you? all ok?

panache lovely to see you back. Sorry you're so low. Thinking of you and your Dad. XXX

italian Your over 40??? What! is this the over 40 thread? - blimey I've been in the wrong place all this time, i'm only 25!!! Wink

gum how are your boobs?

Italiangreyhound · 15/04/2011 19:30

Ladies, I'll have:
Filet Mignon aux Oignons - Gratin Dauphinois

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here
followed by

Profiteroles au Chocolat
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here

Hugs to all.

brinjal · 15/04/2011 20:42

Sad news here I'm afraid. I had an ERPC on Wednesday after my scan showed no heartbeat and an unexplained mass next to the baby. The doctor was concerned that it may be molar so sent me up to the ward to await surgery. 7 hours later I had the procedure, then had to wait another five hours to go home, so a very long 13 hour day spent at the hospital. They will send away for analysis and let me know the results in 2-3 weeks.

I'm so sorry I couldn't be a happy ending for this thread.

Diege I know you were considering a scan at the Fetal Medicine Centre. Just to let you know that I had an 11-13 week scan booked with Prof Nicolaides at 9am on Wednesday 27th April. I have (5 mins ago) just sent an email to cancel the appointment so if you rang first thing tomorrow there is a chance you could take the slot?

Luckily I'm off on holiday tomorrow with my DH and DCs. I have so much to be grateful for, and will be thinking of you all as I recover by the pool. I'm not sure what I'll do next but I'll come back and let you all know whatever I decide.

Lots of love to you all.

randomimposter · 15/04/2011 20:56

brinjal so sorry to read that :( Hope you have a lovely holiday and you can begin your recovery from such a sad experience. Keep in touch x

Curlylox · 15/04/2011 21:21

So sorry brinjal to hear your sad news - take care

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Italiangreyhound · 15/04/2011 23:34

Brinjal so very sorry. Thinking of you.

hopefulgum · 16/04/2011 00:56

Brinjal, so sorry for your sad news. I hope you have a lovely holiday.

Panashe, ((Hugs)) so sorry for your loss.

Nothing to report here. Boobs a little sore, nice high temps, but I have a feeling the RTD will be here in about 3 days.

It's doing my head in: the thought of ttc when I'm not supposed to be ttc. It'd be a miracle actually, my DH has been avoiding me like the plague. I asked him about it last night and he said "it's tricky isn't it?" Oh for Pete's sake, I'm not fertile every day, you moron.

I could write an essay on all of this - the miscarriage, the grief, the lack of comfort from DH and this off/on ttc. But I won't.I don't want to make everyone else feel miserable.

Profiteroles - yum! Actually, that's one dessert I can make without sugar. It's really only the chocolate topping that has sugar in it. Perhaps I'll whip up a batch this weekend.

Not that I'm looking for comfort in food or anything...Wink

Italiangreyhound · 16/04/2011 09:28

My friend is diabetic and makes a low sugar version of profiteroles with croissants, some sort of diabetic chocolate and custard or cream, I think! If you fancy trying this and are allergic to sugar or are diabetic PLEASE check that this is possible and I am not dreaming!

It genuinely sounds like we are getting closer to the top of the list. We may or may not get a choice between altruistic donor and egg sharer (altruistic donors donate their eggs for nothing and the eggs are shared between two recipients, egg sharers are women who are having treatment for themselves but are willing to share their eggs with a woman like me and in return they get a reduction in the fees they pay). We will probably not be given a choice in the sense that if we want the treatment as soon as possible we will need to take the first suitable match. Excited, nervous, almost ready!

Hugs to *all!

hopefulgum · 16/04/2011 09:40

Italian, that is very exciting. Smile

louisesh · 16/04/2011 10:08

Oh Italian how exciting XXX
Brinjal sorry ((()))
Hope everyone's well and enjoying the sunshine? XX

Diege · 16/04/2011 11:47

Oh Brinjal I am so sorry to hear your news Sad, and bless you for thinking of me with the scan info. TRy to relax during your holiday, and yes come back and let us know what you decide x
Italian that is wonderful news Smile. You must be geting quite excited now!;
Gum I think we can permit a bit of comfort evening in your situation; I feel like giving you dh a good shake!
I am trying my best to get throguh the bistro orders - had to contract out for Hippy's fish and chips and also needed a lie down after reading Italian's order.
Slow start here today, but into town this afternoon to try and find a school dress for dd2 without buttons (long story).
LOve to all x

Italiangreyhound · 16/04/2011 13:45

Diege Oh my friend's kid does not like buttons either! When I heard that I said "Is she Amish?!"

Diege · 16/04/2011 14:26

Grin Italian; it has been the same with dd2 since she was about 3 and it's a real pain at times finding things with zips Hmm (she won't even tolerate zip at back say of dress with tiny button at top. Mad!

hippychick66 · 16/04/2011 16:52

brinjal - so sorry to read your news. It's hard enough when there is no heartbeat without all the added complications you've had to endure. I am so sorry for you and your family. I hope the holiday is a peaceful time for you to grieve for what you've lost. Do come back and let us know how you're doing after the hols.

diege my DS2 has to have all the labels taken out of his tops (does that count as a querky thing???) Hope you are feeling better soon.

italian very exciting that you're near the top of the list. Blimey, in some ways it seems to have taken ages to get to this point but in other ways it doesn't seem that long ago that you told us you had decided to go again. Good luck. ps. get you with your fancy food!

Boobgate:- BiscuitBiscuits are most definitely there if you know what I mean - but then they always are for me during the two week wait. Still I'm trying to be optimistic as we did do 'it' 4 times in 5 days [phew, had enough sex for now face!]

nicole333 · 16/04/2011 19:45

Evening all!

Just popping in to say hello.

Brinjal So sorry to hear your news.
Hips What a bugger about the job, what's plan B then? You can't let the island dream go!
Italian How exciting for you. I look forward to reading about your journey. I have learnt so much from this website and there are still things I know nothing about! It's all quite amazing really.
Panache Sorry you're feeling low. Is there anyone you can have a good chat with?

Big wave to everyone else, hope you are all doing ok.

My cycle is playing tricks on me. I usually OV on day 10, and have a 14 day luteal phase. Well this time I was all ready and armed with OPK's and awaiting usual CM. Day 10 came and went with zilch of either appearing. I was coming to terms with not OV'ing this month, until I got a positive on the OPK on day 14 along with CM. So today is CD16 and my temps still havn't raised, but I'm a slow riser anyway (much like this morning!). I'm anticipating a proper rise tomorrow, but expect my OV day will be put to today. We'll see.

I'm having a few issues with motivation at the moment. It all seems a bit false and it's killing my labido. Any tips? Smile

hippychick66 · 16/04/2011 20:03

Don't worry nicole i wont give up on the IOW - I will get there soon - promise Wink

I think the ovulation day can change quite a lot - it's the luteal phase that remains the same (although my LP has increased slowly over the last few months). I sometimes get the positive on an OPK on day 14 but have been known to get a pos as early as day 9 and last month I still hadn't got a pos when i ran out of sticks on day 14. So don't worry about the difference - at least you have ov'd this month which is Grin

As for the motivation, I can't say too much there cos I am getting fed up with TTC sex as well. This is our tenth month trying this time and it does all feel a little bit false. I would love to just have sex for pleasure and not cos the time is right. I know it's all a bit yawn yawn, honey.

The only good thing is that sometimes around the time of ovulation women do tend to feel a bit more fruity... remember BB looking at strangers on trains and thinking rude thoughts Grin. So you could try to tap into that a bit.

I know it's hard and it does feel like a long slog but try to stick with it, matey. XXX

Isaboo · 16/04/2011 20:16

brinjal so sorry about you news hope the holiday with your family helps and you come back to a new start whatever that is

Louisesh and Deige keep up the good work with the scans ...will try to remember not to order fish and chips with gravy at any point

Panashe sorry to hear your sad news wish there was something I could say that would help, my thoughts with you

Gum my DH is not as keen as me but has agreed to carry on. Part of his reluctance i think is fear ...the miscarriage affected him much more than he would admit partly cos he is a man and partly because it was me going through it and he didn't feel entitled to be devastated and deserve any sympathy if you see what i mean, I think fear plays a very big part of his reluctance ...another mc ...something being wrong with the baby ...not being able to cope financially rather than not wanting the child ... i feel for the situation you are both in its awful ..

Hippy ...boobgate sounds good, too bad it comes too late to be useful in conjunction with the vest

Its a merry CD1 Sad to you all from here, have today indulged myself in all the stuff you think twice about when there is a chance you might be pregnant ( ibrobrufen caffeine wine etc ) after proving that pretending ( as best you can !) you are not ttc does not work ..I dropped everything ...counting the days, posting, reading ttc threads, deliberate swi on the required days any kind of testing and general staring at my pants on the loo ...tried to RELAX ..it did make me 3 days late ...but no luck ...need another plan for this month I think

lolfactor · 16/04/2011 21:00

Isaboo you made me laugh out loud. I thought it was only me who was the pants-starer!

Brinjal I have been very worried about you for the last couple of weeks. You didn't sound confident that all was well and the news must have been a devastating confirmation. I am gutted for you both. The wait, the news, then the complication - you've really been through it. You deserve some peace of mind and tranquillity of soul. I hope it comes soon.

I had a really weird experience yesterday. I'd had a tiny beige swipe and thought 'oo, that could be implantation bleeding/progesterone deficit', depending on my mood swing). Had SWOI - then, after setting-too with the tissues, noticed significant bright red blood all over them. Put tampax in, assuming the worst, and just got tiny beige CM by the morning. Not due till Tuesday; am I getting a friable cervix? I know I'll have to go to the Dr to have it checked out. I[m pretty sure it wasn't period bleeding or bedding in. It was the reddest red blood I've ever seen. Bit fed up as don't need another complication. It's time for a smear, so I suppose I should kill both birds.

Italian I've had a chat with dp and we are thinking about investigating donor eggs. Any pointers? I'm now 45 with 3 kids and not sure I'd be top of any list. Until I read your last postings I didn't realise there WAS a list. I thought you just bought one. How naive is that?

waves to all - absolutely NO symptoms whatsoever at CD25. Curly how are you doing?

Isaboo · 16/04/2011 21:06

should it be stareing ? belive me i have no idea unless the spellcheck picks it up ...i did warn you my spelling sucks...my 7 year old sometimes helps me but he is too busy watching Percy Jackson at the moment !

Italiangreyhound · 16/04/2011 22:17

lolfactor definitly is a list, ask at local clinc. Ask anything you like from me

hopefulgum · 17/04/2011 00:31

Hi. Lots of activity going on here. Nice to see you again, Nicole and Isaboo.

Isaboo, your DH's fears sound just like my DH, but the difference is that my DH says he honestly isn't sad about the loss of the baby. I'm amazed that he doesn't feel anything, he says he is sad for me, but not sad because he didn't feel it was a baby. I found that so frustrating. However, my friends tell me that when he told them the news he cried, so I dunno?

He certainly is concerned about finances despite my reassurances that I can go back to work. I'm going back in July, and although originally thought I'd only do one day a week, I've decided to do three days (my older son works evenings and has offered to care for his little brother two days a week for some extra cash.) I'm hoping that working a bit more will help my DH relax a bit about money.

I've always said that having children shouldn't be about money, but we do have to provide for them and pay the bills.

He also worries about having another m.c. Completely understandable, but I still feel it is worth the risk.

That bleeding sounds very much like something to do with the cervix. I had that happen a few times (mainly when I was pregnant) and it was due to an irritable cervix apparently.

My naughty body is trying to trick me into believing I am pregnant. Although the BiscuitBiscuit's aren't really tender, they do get the odd tingle going on, last night I felt sick whilst eating yoghurt, again, felt sick after breakfast this morning, woke up at 4 a.m to pee, and then couldn't go back to sleep. High-ish temp this morning, but not as high as yesterday, but just took my temp cos I felt hot and it was 37.9! And still have metallic taste in my mouth.

Of course it could all mean absolutely nothing.Maybe I just have a goodly amount of progesterone in me this luteal phase?

Deige and Lou, how are you feeling?

Curly - any symptoms?

Italiangreyhound · 17/04/2011 01:52

lolfactor just out of interest is your DH the father of you children? The reason I'm asking is because if not then it may not be down to you that you are having trouble conceiving again, it could be you, or DH, or both.

There is not, I believe, a waiting list in other counteries. USA is an option, expensive, Spain, costs are relative to UK for some clinics, possibly less for some clinics, and there is no waiting list at some clinics. You are not necessarily matched to a Spanish person, treatment just happens in a Spanish clinic. If you Google around you will find out some info. There are also Eastern European clinics but we never looked into any of them.

All the best.

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