Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 3

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As you were ladies

curly hello there my love. I've had quite a few laps, but they were for endometriosis so i have no idea if they are exactly the same. What they did to me was put me to sleep (good start) and then made a small hole in my belly button through which they blew a gas to bloat me up and give them room to move everything around. They they stuck the camera on a long thin tube into the hole. At the same time as the camera is in the belly button they put something up my bits so they can move stuff around. Now that was what they did for endo, cos they need to move your womb out of the way but I don't know if they will have to do that for you, are they just checkiing your tubes arn't blocked or something else as well?

Anyway, I had about 3 for investigative reasons and 1 where they lasered off all the endo. Apparently it looked like someone had sprinkled bisto all over my insides and the very kind consultant took ages to burn off each bit of scarring.

What i will say is this:- when you first wake up the gas has risen as high within the body as it can go, so you have a lot of pain in your shoulders. I felt like a fat man was sitting on my shoulders the first time and couldn't understand why. they recommend peppermint cordial which is meant to help with trapped wind - it does eventually dispurse (in the usual way!)

I was a day patient all times except when i had the laser which was obvously a lot more painful. Afterwards it is quite painful and you feel like you don't want to stand up straight but it only hurts for a couple of days. and again I must stress that it might be different if they are looking for something different in you. I hope that has helped a bit and not sent you running for the hills

Hello! Have just read through as I've missed a few days with work, but wfh today thankfully. Spotty many congratulations!!! Sounds like things are going brilliantly too, other than the insensitive consultant
Gum hoping all is well/will be well with the scan - not sure if you are on weds or Thurs!
Hippy/BB, I am getting very excited for you both. My temps were high after ov this time, but they did zig zag a bit around 8dpo-11dpo, perhaps due to implantation, before gradually rising again. Shall we set a test day for you both?
Lou also bricking it here - in fact I am very tempted not to go at all for the scan based on the fact that I have NEVER had a 20 week scan that hasn't thrown up some 'problems' (that weren't actually problems) and caused so much stress and anxiety. I think the only thing making me go (and I know they're not complusory) is the fact that they might see something that they can do something about/keep an eye on. Other than that I would easily decline! We will be asking about the sex though.
Maternity clothes? Somewhat of an obsession I'm afraid . I love clothes anyway, so this is just an excuse to buy new ones. So far I've bought from Isabella Oliver ( 2 dresses, 2 tops), Topshop (jeans, lots of tops), Next (surprisingly good range), and ASOS (great for jeggins). Have a few more splurges planned, though am becoming mindful of the fact that, with this weather, I may never actually get to wear half of the very summery stuff!
Love to all! xxx

Hi nicole - I like the idea of a luteal face, mine is a desperate one which is trying not to count the days and symptom spot take care lovie. X

lol you are so gonna shag him on this holiday, I know it, you know it, everyone on this thread knows it - ahh well - enjoy! You are so funny, how did you know I haven't started packing (I told you I don't have a webcam). The buyers are coming back on Friday to measure up. I am nervous cos they only ever viewed it once. SO I am hiding everything and making it look as tip top as possible and once they've been we will begin having packing boxes everywhere. OK lol - why are you making so much fuss - how much stuff can we have managed to get together - we've only been her 10 years!!! ... oh yeah and about the gorgeous man - go for it, Love. There are a lot worse hobbies than pigeon fancying!!!

italian sorry you haven't got a doner yet but I guess it fits in with the holiday and gives you more time to lose weight. X

gum I have no idea what time it is there but am guessing that you might have had the scan or are having soon. I hope the copter got you there in style and I await news - good luck, lovie.X

I've also heard from Jolls and she is fine. About to move out of rented and back to her house so very busy but all ok.

I had another high temp this morning and also a horrible dream, it started with egg whites coming out of me in vast quantities and then something large (like a womb ) fell out of me and was still attached - yuck it was a horrid dream and made me feel really ill. Not sure if it's cos I watched Scott and Bailey last night and was thinking about her having the late MC. lou that must have been so awful for you to watch - you poor thing. I was upset enough and haven't even had to do that. There was one bit where she said she had a dead baby inside her and i started crying cos that's what my DS2 said to me when we told them we'd lost the baby and I was going in to hospital to have it taken away. Stupid really cos it was nearly a year and a half ago - but just reminded me for a second.

Deige you are a girl after my own heart (did I get that saying right??) I just love an excuse to buy new clothes too. Can't stretch it to Isabella unfortunately, but do like the Next stuff and have bought a few great stretchy items from Australian brands like Metalicus (check them out here www.metalicus.com/women/landing/all- lovely stuff).

I'm back...and all is well. Baby measuring at 7 weeks 4 days (my calculations say 7+5) and the heartbeat was 157.

It is reassuring, and I keep telling myself that it means my chances of a mc are lowered, but I was 8 weeks with a healthy heartbeat last time, and that didn't go well.

However, I do feel better this time round and I'm going to enjoy the good news. There was a huge rainbow in the sky on the entire 20 minute drive home. Lovely! I smiled a lot.

diege I crossed posts with you. Sorry you are stressing about the 20 week scan but agree that you should go just incase there is something they need to keep an eye on. Am of all your maternity clothes

Can't believe that you and lou are gonna know the sexes of your babes soon. You'd better tell us. I am guessing - boy for Diege and girl for Lou - don't know why - just a hunch!

crossed with gum. very busy on here this morning - keep crossing with everyone.

for the scan Gum. I know what you mean about the other one making it to 8 weeks but as you say, for now all is well and as it should be - whoop whoop!

Oh Hippy I crossed post. How sad. Don't think I could watch something like that. Heartbreaking.

Thanks for letting me know Jolls is okay.

Now, must rush off and cook dinner. My poor DH is feeling poorly (still managed to come to the scan, thankfully), so must also give him some TLC.

Woo-hoo Gum that's brilliant news . Everything is exactly as it should be, so you are right to enjoy and celebrate! So pleased for you x
Hippy you poor thing; horrible for memories to be triggered like that. I watched Baby Hospital last night and really wished I hadn't - very sad indeed. On a brighter note, hope your gender prediction is right for me! I have a feeling my body will revert to 'form' and it'll be a girl (which of course would be lovely too) but would be nice for ds to have a brother. Either way, really don;t mind as long as no scary soft markers are there!
Right, better ring boss as I sense from his message that I have done something wrong...

@ Gum Delighted for you m'dear. That's brilliant news. I know what you mean - you just move onto worrying about what's going to happen next - but look at this way - the only way to get a good 12 week result is to have a postive 8 week scan.

Diege there's lots of gentle birthing stuff out there about ultrasounds being more hassle than they are worth - try having a look at Sarah Buckley for example. At the end of the day, it's a very personal decision. I have to say, I was bricking myself - but I think I would have been worse not doing it.

LOL He deserves a good kick in the nuts - that should dent his procreation chances at any rate. Of course you want to go to Florence and have cups of tea with the bloke - but he dumped you and should take some responsiblity for not leading you on. Go to Florence by all means, but

• don't forget to "forget" your credit card - promise faithfully you will go dutch with all the expenses now you're "split" if he pays upfront, and that you'll DEFINITELY pay him back. Don't.
• don't spare any expense - it's clearly worth double coffee prices to sit on the piazza... no, no... honest, I really think that...
• tell him it's time to be honest about your sex life now that the emotion is out of it - confess to all the orgasms you faked, how penetrative sex with him has never been that satisfying really, and how he needs to improves his cunninglingus technique.
• refuse to get on top (unless you really want to).
• on the plane on the way home, drink too many gin and tonics, and have a loud argument about him leaving you because you're too old to have his baby, despite your recent miscarriage. If you can't stomach that one, confess to an affair with his best friend/colleague he can't stand some time last year.

Is that mean? Ignore me - I'm heavily pregnant and emotional...

Fidget is term today - as in 37 weeks... I know you lot know that, but other people keep mixing it up with her due date. Midwife is coming tomorrow with the home birth kit - all still feels slightly unreal. Another 10 days of work still to do... I'm assuming she will turn up suitably late, as C did...

Baby dust to all xx

Is your scan tomorrow Lou ? Are you hoping for a boy or a girl - or don't you mind?

hello all - feeling a little glum this morning after my appt yesterday at the clinic. they did a scan and only found 4 follicles (average being around 10) which they said was normal for my age but means that IVF is more or less out of the picture as they'd be able to harvest very few eggs and the rate of success is no better than trying naturally :-(

next step they've recommended is to have a hakosi scan (may heave spelt that incorrectly!) to check my tubes are clear then we could consider IVI if they are.

They also noticed during the scan that one of the follicles was ready to pop so we went home and did some serious SWI-ing

so it's good news on the one hand but I guess I was hoping that they'd miraculously find lots of follicles and hence lots of eggs!!

hope everyone else is ok

Tina

tina - so it's not all bad news. There are follicles. What about clomid _ I'll let you know if it works It might just give you a few more follicles. Sounds like you timed it well with the scan and then the swi. It's shit being told that stuff is just normal for our age isn't it Don't they get it - we don't want to be this feckin' age!!!!! Chin up, lovie.

tank as ever to the point and very funny. lol i hope you were taking notes I especially love the whole getting drunk on the plane and telling everyone about him leaving you just after your MC - he can't even get up and walk away - (Hippy ROFL)

Am so thrilled that you're term today tank. Keep us posted m'dear

I was invited to go back into my old job and see two new born babies who were being brought in by their on mat leave mummies today. i managed to make the thing that I was doing at the school take a bit longer so I was unable to go and see the babies. I felt a bit of a bitch not going, but after my two MCs last year I just don't need to see new babies at the moment and that little upset last night has upskittled me a bit - am I mean?

tina I think you meant IUI and if I remember rightly that is how italian conceived her daughter. She might be worth asking. Sorry italian I'm always volunteering you

No, not mean at all Hippy, just human xx
Tina sorry you're feeling glum, but things don't read too bad and, as Hippy says, there are others options. And your swi this month does sound perfectly timed x
TTT wow term already, that's brilliant to hear Thanks for the link to Sarah Buckley, though I have to say I found her tone a little smug and well, just odd. I'm pretty sure I'll be going for the scan, for the reasons I stated earlier, and will just have to mentally get through the bricking in. I think if I accept that the liklihood for this scan to show some sort of 'problem' based on my previous form, then this might be more sensible than going for a 100% 'perfect' one and then inevitably fall short. For eg. all my scans (bar ds) found dilated kidneys. No big deal, though some link to chromosome problems/possible urinary tract problems. I have a 1 in 6 chance of them seeing this again. Just means lots of scans and post-birth follow up. With ds, chroid plexus cyst on brain, marker for Edwards, but they don't report these in isolation any more as not considered of significance in isolation. Other than that I've had suspected talipes, echogenic cardiac focus, suspected IUGR, suspected polyhydramnios) all seen at various follow-up scans for the kidneys (all disappearing, not meaning what they might suggest, though did mean an amnio at one point that didn't work (culture failure). Actually, if this scan is 'clear' that might make me worry even more

Hi there. I thought I would like to post this somewhere. I just had a BFP! I am 47!

I have 1 DC already, I was 44 when he was born, and all well.

Is very good news, I am just hoping the news will continue to be good!

Wow, welcome and congratulations herecomesthsun! Wishing you an uneventual, plain sailing 9 months. Sorry but have to ask - natural or assisted

oh we're very old fashioned here

Wow herecomsthesun you are an inspiration . Welcome aboard!!

fantastic news herecomesthesun gives me hope I have time yet :-) had yo been trying long?

hippy yes sorry I meant IUI far too many i-somethings for me to remember what's what - the consultant said there was no evidence clomid would help me as I'm already ovulating but if I go for IUI then I would be on some sort of stimulating drug

and yes the SWI is fun although I think for dh it felt a bit mechanical especially as i told him he needed to be on top or behind (pardon that's probably tmi) to optimise our chances hehehe anyway he doesn't know it yet but he's on duty again tonight just in case think I'd better sweeten him up a bit before i spring the news on him!

Wow again, you've given me hope...

Wow you lot are very chatty ???? All skiving work!!!
Gum fantastic news you ve put a big smile ony face. YEH
TTT wow , again full term, that's excellent. Hope you re able to get a little excited now, no I don t mind you asking at all. Yes , we will be finding out the sex tomorrow and I ve no idea either way. Ant thinks a boy I ve no clue!!! I m not fussed either way half of me thinks it would be lovely to have a girl to wear all the lovely pink clothes our Georgie was bought. But on the other hand would it be " easier" to have a boy and " start " afresh with clothes etc.... So my head goes round in circles then I think what's the point??? The decisions already been made. I ll defiantly let you know. Take care x
Diege mmmm.., tough decisions for you re; scans. It is. , unfortunately , as you all know not a very nice experience for me but personally I ' d rather know if there is a problem, so, you think you re having a boy?!?? Xx
Hippy "Scott and bailey" didn t upset mr I just could t believe how stupid it was!!! So , you think I m having a girl ??? Mmm... Very interesting. When you testing???? X
Hi Nicole nice to hear from you
Congrats harrasedmum x
Hi Italian hope you re well?
Hi Lol your break sounds fab, apart from
The company!!!!
Shandy hope you re ok ?
Hi panache
Hi Curly glad to hear you feel a little brighter
Hi to anyone I ve missed. Much love and hugs to all. Xxx

Meant herecomesthesun dumbo!!! Me not you!!!!!

lou you will defiantly let us know the sex ..... interesting

herecomesthesun fab news. I am 44 now and am so thrilled to hear that you had a take home baby at 44 and now this at 47 - wonderful news. As has already been asked - how long were you trying or was it a total surprise?

I keep swinging between feeling like AF is coming and preparing myself for spotting and feeling like the clomid has worked. God I hate these last few days of the cycle.

Have realised that I am not at home at the week-end so will have to test on Monday if no AF - sorry to gum who loves an early test

lou - i love the dumbo! me not you. Would have been so funny if you hadn't added the me not you - herecomesthesun would have thought - "what a crap welcome!"

hi all. spotty congratulations! I can't remember when you last posted - have you been keeping quiet about this?

and herecomesthesun fantastic news! Hope it all goes well for you.

tina I think I've only ever had 1 follicle whenever I've been scanned. It only takes one after all... good luck anyway!

gum really glad for you. How's your dh taking all the news?

hippy I don't know when I'll test, but I am also feeling less positive now. I have another few days of progesterone to take before I can stop, but will probably test at the weekend a few times!

curly I haven't had a laparoscopy but sounds good I think - good opportunity to find out if there's anything causing this. I sometimes think I have got scarring from my mc that has caused me problems. but who knows?!

TTT can't believe you're 37 weeks already. Wow.

Jolls are you around? I'm feeling so sad to be leaving B now.

Hello to everyone else italian panashe diege angelG, shandy nicole lol and anyone I've missed (sorry I've been missed off these lists before!).

Have now got some school places for all of my children! am seeing a potential nanny/mother's help tomorrow to help us in the summer and DH has 3 job offers! Just need a BFP now and everying will be perfect...