Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

[galwaygal]

This is a continuation of the "More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings"

I thought I would keep the title short as there are so many long ones out there.

I thought I would start the new thread so that you don't forget me

Lol Gum

oohh errr... this one still works (looks around suspiciously...) Maybe they listened to reason

Thanks for the kebab - is it actually possible to have a craving for kebabs? Or am I just a greedy porker

(crowns Louise the SWI Queen)

Louise - here is me griping about Christmas cards. I thought I could sort of cope ok with Christmas - but everyone else being jolly and hyper is very wearing when you're feeling miserable yourself - so I have now accepted I am grumpy.

On the subject of blogs... I'm reading this blog at the moment, which is, I think, the most amazing tribute to a 40s woman's determination to have a child:

She says: hi there my name is anne and i am currently pregnant with my second child through ivf. my first child "harvey" was also conceived through ivf and was born with a neurodegenerative disorder. we were given a week as harveys prognosis but he gave us 13 months one day and two and a half whole hours. harvey died on february the 8th 2010 , peacefully at home in my arms. i am now embarking on my new journey to motherhood and have very mixed emotions. i am 42 and this is why i have startied again so soon after harveys passing. unfortunately harveys dad and i have incompatible genes so a donor had to be used this time. harveys dad has since left me because it was all too much for him, so i am doing this on my own. i have been on a carers pension for the last 12 months as harvey had profound disabilities and required round the clock care but am attempting to go back to work as an architect. i look forward to sharing my journey. It's here

As I have mentioned him, can't help but light a little candle on the tree for Harvey xx

Jolls Delighted that your tests came clear. We spent a similar amount on tests to say I could possibly get pg - but then if they had come back saying it was impossible - or yours that you did have a simple problem - we needed to know that.. so I wouldn't see it as a waste of money. So I suppose all you can say is that you've been very unlucky. You're only 42 - really hope 2011 is your year xx

Diege Hope the little ones are feeling better today xx

Don't forget to keep an eye on the fairy... no knowing what she'll get up to xxxx

Jolls i ve picked you up off the floor and fanned you down!!! You re impresssed ???

Gum please accept that you ve got the better deal at the moment with the weather.Its crap and going on forever.Oysters urh!!!! Not really my thing but do love mussles mmmm.....Having some for tea tonight.

Fluff thanks for the crown i accept it gratefully.Can i claim my winner's present now please? A bouncing baby..

Not done much today, apart from having swi!!! Wrote a star decoration out for the funeral palour's xmas tree .They sent us 1 out for Georgie.Went for a walk.Must get back to the gym got about 3-4lbs to loose from my 2 nd belly!!! Urh ....its horrible.

Mantra to self: will go to the gym tomorrow.Then back in to routine on Monday.

louise if you've only 3or4lbs to lose, you really needn't fret .

what news hippy?

hi all - am blimmin cold here this morning

Freezing here too, the snow is pretty but not practical........was hoping to visit my GM today but the roads are treacherous. Quiet here today though....

@ louise SWI !!! You are definitely the sex siren of this thread (Hippy removes the sash and places around louise).

fluffy it does seem so ridiculous that they are deleting you, honey. Almost like a stupid game of cat and mouse.

Well i'm a bit pee'd off actually. i'm on day 29 (as many of you will know - this is bloody unheard of for me - usual cycle length is 24/25 - I think i managed one cycle of 26 days but NEVER 29).

So i understandably was allowing myslef to get a bit excited about it all. But i did another test this morning and another BFN. plus a tiny streak of red which suggests the old bitch MUST be coming today. I know i should be pleased that i have a great cycle (4 weeks with ovulation slap bang in the middle is brillient for an old bird like me). But i was allowing myself to believe that we were getting another chance .

So much has happened on this thread since i was last on that i can't comment on it all but will simply say - much love to you all.

Aww Hippy buggeration to the old wotch, if she is indeed on her way. I know what you mean about a decent cycle length - a pretty small consolation when you look at it, but nonethless something to be positive about. PLus we get to be cycle buddies again
Fluffy do you think you've got a xmas amnesty then? . Here's hoping

Definitely no Hippy babies due this month.

Glad we are cycle buddies again diege. If we both have such super duper cycle lengths then we should be almost guaranteed a double whammy positive result in January -
Thanks for holding on to my s for the last two weeks .

You're welcome - I sort of enjoyed it
It is indeed odd that we've both had mega long cycles (for us) and I am holding out that this is indeed a good omen. I have also had two free pregnancy tests sent through the post (from a link I think Italian gave a while back?)as I did before the month I conceived ds (again, 2 mths after mc) so I'm thinking positive!

Am wondering if holding my s is what put your back out?????

Good to be back in sync. onwards and upwards diege.

aah sorry about the witch turning up Hippy. I'm on cd5 now, so nearly cycle buddies - particularly since I ov around cd19.

lucky you diege losing a stone and a half in the first 12 weeks - I put that on! I want to lose some now to allow for that extra weight. Unfortunately didn't lose it all from the 12 weeks of pg I had earlier this year yet, so starting from a bad position.

louise I'm very impressed with that swi attempt. I'm going to try and emulate you this month. getting 2 in a row will be an achievement for me and dh. Then again, I think that it would be good just one month to dtd twice in my fertile period. Maybe this is the month...

so dh has bought me some underwear today - to show he's willing and interested apparently . I'm wearing it to be willing. ~But blimey he's predictable, it's red, lacy and very push up. I'm nearly knocking myself out! Also not very sexy to be mashing potato for the dcs tea in it. at least he's trying I suppose!

BB you sexy siren! sounds lovely??? Is the underwear itchy? Thats my ever lasting memory of "sexy" lacy underwear.Funnily, I was discussing this with my friends last week about having a shopping trip for sexy undies for our dhs.However , i have a weird dh as me in sexy undies doesn t float his boat.[or maybe its just me in sexy undies that doesn t float his boat!!!]

Poor you Hippy cd1 is the pits? I always find i m very depressed on cd1 as all your hopes are dashed again.Its also all those pesky hormones again.Like you i think we need to be grateful for small mercies , such as regular cycles and regular ovulation.But none of that helps does it? At least you can have a few LARGE glasses of wine over xmas.[louise scratches her head trying desperately to look for the positives]

Curly its treacherous isn t it? HATE,HATE,HATE this weather.Its never ending.

Jolls i wish that was all i had to loose i m probably about 1.5 stones overweight in total but gave up on the other stone some time ago!!! But i ve put about 4lbs on very recently and don t like the look of my bellies [plural] so, its no good it has to go.I know i ve been eating much more bread and biscuits and chocolate than i would normally!!!! However, i guess, its hardly been a "normal" time.Just don t want to pile any more weight on.

Diege i did indeed make it to the gym, only did 20 minutes of exercise but figure its better than nothing.Saw the "nasty " gp and his wife, had my retort all ready and never got chance to let them have it!!!

Hi to all muchlove,gum,gg and 40somemum.

Had a day off swi today!!!! Knew something wasn t quite right!!!

oh yes, quite itchy, and completely the wrong size too. I'm a 32d in bras, and he got me 34b, so pretty uplifting/overflowing. I'm a 12 in knickers and he got me a 16! fab! baggy pants. v sexy.

and bright red "lace" too. yum.

to do him credit, he did know it was the wrong size. He has also got me some less brassy stuff for christmas apparently too, so looking forward to that!

Well done on the gym Louise! I decided to keep my gym membership this week. despite not having gone since about February. I'm going to start going in Jan. Particularly if I have to reduce my bra size 2 cup sizes

on bellies, my dd2 (aged 7) was bending over in her knickers today and asking what she needs to do to have her belly hanging over like me and daddy . i told her it was nothing to aspire to!

Hippy, sorry about the RTD turning up. But it is good to have an LP that length.Means that the embie will have a lovely snuggly lining to snuggle into.

LOL Beattie at your DD wanting to have a tummy like you and daddy, how sweet!

I'm feeling SOOO fat lately, but feel powerless to do anything about it. I just have to eat continuously or I feel really, really sick.I hate it. I'll look 6 months pregnant at the end of 12 weeks. I know it is worth it for the end result, but I really don't want to put on too much weight as I have trouble with my hips later on, and I know being heavy doesn't help. I'm trying to eat protein with every mouthful and trying to eat only healthy stuff, but its the silly season and there is naughty food everywhere I turn...As for exercise, how do you do that when you feel exhausted ALL the time and can't drag yourself off the couch?

Sorry to moan about it, I do realize how lucky I am to be pregnant.

Fluffly, I had a look at that blog and read it all, crying all the way through. The loss of a child is just so unfair. It seemed so wrong that her partner left her to deal with Harvey's illness alone. It is lovely that she is close to having her baby.But I know she'll always miss Harvey.

Jolls, any more symptoms? when will you test?

HA HA BB thats lovely what your daughter said

Arh...bless your hubby at least he s made the effort , even if the presents are more for him than you!!!!

BB One man's meat (or woman's meat) is another's poison. Have been (SADLY) trying to persuade DH to buy me some sexy undies from Sainburies (or is hat a contradiction in terms!). I fear he will not. Also, if I were a size 12 I would be so happy I would probably go commando, OK I wouldn't but you get my drift!

Gum enjoy.

Louise you sound chirpier. If you feel it, enjoy it, if I am wrong, ignore me. Just don?t feel bad for feeling better, even for a bit.

Jolls how goes it?

Alba hope all is well.

Frosty are you still lurking, isn't this your time of year?

To all you yummy ladies, hugs GG, Diege, Nicole, Muchlove, Spotty, fluffy, Curly, Hippy and frustrated! - just realised when you say your names like that you sound like the seven dwarfs, Happy, Grumpy, Spotty, fluffy, Curly, Hippy and frustrated!
I am feeling very happy; keen to do lots of new weight loss classes (my teacher is starting up classes locally so I am going to get double portions of exercise in January). I managed to eat only one mince pie after church today (and two chocolate chip cookies but who is counting) and Hubby and I are talking in terms of if treatment fails we may go down adoption route AND he did not wince when he talked about it. Still no idea what to do. I'd so much have loved to adopt from China but the time was never right, the money was never there. I hear my friends with three kids moaning (sometimes) about how much work three is and I want to say well I'd do it! But I have no right to moan. I am very happy. I am so lucky. I know it. I love this time of year, our village is covered in snow and the festive decorations looks tasteful and tacky in equal measure. In a week it will be all over but for now I am blissed out!

love to all, sorry not to name check, I am (YET AGAIN) ironing!

Sorry hippy that's pants :(. BUT a great length cycle is very important. Besides I know you are loving all the sex so you can SWI to your heart's content to start 2011 with a bang (or two ).

Italian love that you are all giddy about festivities! Bless.

DP and I have been together 19 years today. To celebrate he's hired a van to drive 120 miles and exchange a very slightly damaged chimney flue for a wood burner that was delivered last week. With a mobile with very little battery. In this weather. What a lunatic. Hopefully he'll make the 120 miles back too... .

Day 22 here, and no spotting yet or suggestion of RTD. So hopefully this means my cycle is getting a bit more normal. Or of course that I'm about to get a BFP for Christmas... .

Love to all.
x

Italian you sound giddy arh..... Think you ve got my xmas spirit.You are right at times i am chirper and at times i m heartbroken .Never have i been such a big mess of emotions i plod on then all of a sudden i remember and i can feel my heart breaking all over again.Was very upset at the weekend that i didn t take enough time to look at Georgie's ears,legs and back.How odd are those thoughts? Glad you have managed to have the "adoption" talk...As i ve mentioned before we are open to adoption and will contact the local council in April to see if we can get the ball rolling.

Jolls happy annivarsary hope you re dp makes his journay with no problems .Sounds as organised as my dh , has set off to work today with out his phone and so far no e mail to say he s arrived safely.Since Georgie i worry much more about loss and "unusual" things happening such as rta's.His new job is a 25 mile commute , which worries me when the weather is like this.

Off to the gym tonight as determined to loose this extra weight.Friend just cancelled was coming for a cuppa today.Don t think i ll be going far due to the weather.

Hi all Diege,40Somemum,Hippy and much love Have a good day XX

Hi all, hope you don't think I am intruding as you all seem to know each other so well. I used to look at this forum a few years ago and thought I would revisit today. Here's news from the other side for you, after a very long journey into motherhood including 3 miscarriages, one failed IVF and lots of negative reports from doctors including being told I when I was 40 that I had a fertility age of 43 (I'll never forgot that bombshell!) I now have two boys both naturally conceived and born when I was 41 and 43. Don't give up ladies. Whatever those statistics say - and I was obsessed with them - you only need one good egg to pop out and it can happen. Just keep on going and be kind to yourself and your partner (not that I was!!). Lots of Love

Hi everyone! Hope you're all doing ok.

You are all talking so much sense, thanks again. I especially like the phrase of life being too short to be frightened of living it. It kind of sums it up really. If I don't get my finger out, I'll look back and have huge regrets. I don't want to do that.

Something weird happened saturday morning. I stood in the bathroom, in the depths of feeling like I have been lately, and I asked for help. I don't know who I was asking, but I asked for the courage to do this. I began to feel like a weight lifted and even felt happy. I havn't felt that low or even tearful since. Also, I'm acting like I'm going to go for it. I've been shopping today for a thermometer and a diary chart thing and also some Folic acid.

I'm still scared, but feel like I'm beginning to accept it as part of it, which is all I ever wanted.

I'm keen to get my hands on the taking charge of your fertility book, but Amazon only have used ones for the 2006 edition, and the majority of the sellers are in the states. I don't have that long to go until my first proper attempt!!

Hi Savagebishop! I must have been typing my essay so missed your post.

What a lovely and encouraging story. Thankyou so much for posting it. If you don't mind me asking, how do they come to giving you a fertility age?

Hi Nicole
It was when I had tests after having 2 miscarriages, the specialist said that the number of follicles (I think that is right) plus results of other blood tests, were in keeping with those of a 43 year old rather than a just 40 (as I was then). After this I was advised to go for IVF, which I did - although it didn't work. Lordy, thinking back now, I don't know how I survived it all. Hard work but worth it. Did go mad on the way though

Savagebishop what a lovely story and just what we need to hear. I too thought we d cracked it with Georgie but alas not to be.But i /we will keep going.Hope you re enjoying your family? Must be lovely to be on the other side i can hardly dare to dream i ll ever be there especially, as with Georgie we were there virtually.

Ncole yeh!!! Come join in the madness!!!! My books have never taken that long from amazon but i suppose xmas and the snow is going to knack everything up!!!

Hows everyone today?

I m feeling guilty [ and before anyone says it i know i shouldn 't]. I feel guilty that somehow or other there was E coli in my vagina which ultimately ended up in /near the placenta which caused hypoxia which sent Georgie to sleep.I feel so terribly guilty that if wasn t for my body or me she could well still be here now.I was suppose to protect her but in the end i didn t /couldn t.

I know in reality i m not to blame and as my dh says i need to get this out of my head to help me move foreward to reach our goal:Georgie's brother or sister.I know hes right but i look at her photos and torture myself with "if onlys".

Been to the gym tonight managed to swim , didn t do as much as i normally do ,but, i went.

savagebishop Thanks for your words of experience, have you got any words of wisdom about what you did to achieve it?

Louise I think these feelings are all normal, up one minute, down the next, feeling guilty etc. It is normal. BUT YOU KNOW that if it were not for you there would have been no Georgie. You did a fab job of conceiving her and nurturing her and by a cruel and unfortunate turn of events things did not work out as you had hoped and expected. Please be kind to yourself.

Nicole333 good luck with everything.

Love to all.

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Morning . What an inspirational story Savage! I'm sure it will provide much encouragement for many of us here in the snug.
Louise wise words indeed Italian, as alway.You know what the reality is, as you say, but perfectly normal to go back and forwards to the 'what ifs' as you well know. In this situation though there's absolutely nothing anyone could have done, least of all yourself, in the content of the events as they transpired. THinking of you xxx
Jollster are you testing today? I may have imagined it but I seem to remember you saying tues was the day for some reason?
Cd 6 here so gearing up for swi, though don't want to start too early...Christmas cake making day today, though I can't find an 8 inch tin the recipe asks for - will a 9 inch one do d'you think or am I asking for trouble?
LOve to all xxx