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Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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galwaygal · 16/11/2010 11:10

This is a continuation of the "More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings"

I thought I would keep the title short as there are so many long ones out there.

I thought I would start the new thread so that you don't forget me Grin

OP posts:
Curlylox · 21/12/2010 08:52

diege have recently got into baking so am no expert but would an inch make a huge difference??? Sorry just realised I have answered your question with a question.....
My op on knee went well although the anesthetist gave me a scare. On CD 10 and managed to SWI, well just about managed with a bandaged knee that's quite sore/painful but needs must Blush

galwaygal · 21/12/2010 10:00

Savagebishop - thank you so much for your encouraging words, and taking the time to come and say them to us. I (we all) really appriciate it,Xmas Grin and so happy that you are enjoying your lovely family now.

Nicole - try fertility friend - here is the link, it is very helpful in information for charting and the like. If you purchase the VIP subscription then you get access to the discussion boards that are helpful (and addictive!!!) but it is good just with the free version too.

Well folks I apologise for not doing the stats today, hope someone else can update. I am off to work early and then immediately travelling to my parents for Christmas. So I may get a chance to briefly lurk, but probrably not get a chance to post until after new year.

So:

HAPPY CHRISTMAS and a GREAT 2011 wished for each and every one of you all here. May BFP's abound in 2011 for you all. Xmas Smile

GG leaves large hamper with everyones favourites in and a new wand for the fairy on the tree!!!!

OP posts:
louisesh · 21/12/2010 10:40

Thanks Italian you always seem to know what to say.Smile I know you re right "oh wise one!!!"

Hi Diege Enjoy your baking very impressed.My dh is the one that's "Delia" in our house!!!! Never too early for swi , unless you are both pacing yourselves!!!! [plus, its different if you ve got kids i imagine to find the time to swi]

Curlylox glad you managed to have your op.Well done on swi whilst recoperating!!!.

Its so cold , come on summer.At least today is the shortest day then we re heading the right way!!!

Booked some reflexology sessions for the new year, lets give this a try.I ve had accunpuncture in the past enjoyed it but thought i d try something different.

Right, better go and have a shower seeing a friend later.Have a nice day XX

OctaviaOstrichJollster · 21/12/2010 12:03

Morning
yep diege well remembered! I had acu this morning so thought I should test in case I am and she could do a different treatment IYSWIM. So I did and it was the biggest whitest BFN you've ever seen!! Realistically on cd23 it would be very early, but on the positive side have had no grubby CM or spotting signs, so after 2 22 day cycles at least my cycle is getting longer again. Won't test again til Christmas day (if I get that far - unlikely). I think I had high hopes as have had BFP June09 then June10, and BFP Jan10... actually as I type this I realise I would still get a BFP Jan11 if I have another cycle ... ignore me I am mad and rambling!!!!

Hope your inches worked out ok... Xmas Grin.

Big loving wave to all - shouldn't even be on here as have SOOOOOOOOOOO much to do as DS at nursery today and it's last chance saloon to get sorted pre-25th! xxx

hippychick66 · 21/12/2010 13:40

louise i think italian has said it so eloquently I can't add much. Simply to say - I am always looking to aportion blame, was it my fault? if it wasn't your fault then who's was it? etc. But my DH always says - Sometimes it's no-one's fault. I blame myself for so many stupid things and I KNOW without question that in your shoes I'd be feeling guilty too, but the facts are there, honey. You knew nothing of the ecoli - you don't know how it got there and there is nothing that you did wrong. You loved your baby, you nurtured your baby and you did what you felt was best for your baby. You continue to love her and it is heartbreaking that she can't be there with you. Hopefully you're having a better day today and not feeling so down. ((()))

jolls sorry about the BFN but, as you say, it was early so maybe it isn't all over for you yet this month.

savage brillient news from you, thank you so much for sharing. As others have said, I would like to be the other side of all this wondering but sooner or later, one way or another I will be. Sorry you had to suffer 3x MC and a failed IVF but am glad you got your goal Xmas Smile

nicole would recommend that book. I found it very interesting and it's great if you have a table with one short leg Xmas Grin No seriously, I learnt a lot but it sure is big!

GG Merry Christmas - thanks for the Hamper, honey.

I have decided to fully embrace the whole not being preggers at Xmas thing. I am eating a brie and cranberry baguette and at xmas I plan to eat pate, brie etc plus drink large quantities of booze.

BB, Diege and I are riding around on a bicycle made for 3 and are all hoping for a BFP in mid january.

louisesh · 21/12/2010 15:21

Thanks Hippy can i join your bicycle? Don t leave me behind please?
Enjoy your xmas feast mmm.....

Well just had another slap in the face.One of my closest friends has just been to see me to tell me shes pg.She has 1 child and was planning ttc in June 11 , shes on the ocp [oral contreceptive pill] but had been taking ab [antibiotics] shes very early , only 5 weeks but wanted to tell me asap.

I don t feel as gutted as i did with my other friend who waited to 14 weeks to tell me.I ve worked with this girl for 7 years and we are very close and shes had 2 MCs in the past.[which at least means she has some insight whereas my other friend :easy pregnancy last time, no MCs]

This friend today has been hoping i d be pregnant this month so we can/could go through it together,I know she really wants me to be pg.As i said to her its not a problem to i return to work but she has said she ll work at one of our other clinics or work around me.Mmmm...... trying not to get bitter or down has how does that help me ? It doesn t !!!

I need to grit my teeth , head down and get pg.I will worry about work when i have to.My current sick note doesn t run out to 17th Jan and i ll probably get another month then.

Mmmm......I said to her "as long as you know how lucky you are" as i never appreciated how lucky i was being pg with Georgie .I know she does.

Another smack in the face from him upstairs or whoever you re suppose to have faith in nowadays!!!

louisesh · 21/12/2010 15:23

Jolls way too early yet?

Says me who would test now at cd18 if i could!!!!! Lets hope XX

hippychick66 · 21/12/2010 18:29

It's tough isn't it Louise - but it sounds like she at least was trying really hard to be sensitive to your needs.

Of course you can join our bike, my love. I only mentioned the 3 of us cos we are 'cycle buddies' - get it???? Grin But we can pop you in the basket at the front cos you're ahead of us in your cycle.

Head down and get pregnant????? Hmm Not sure that sort of sex gets you preggers lou Xmas Grin

louisesh · 21/12/2010 21:40

Arh get it "cycle" buddies duh....Louise. you must really think about returning to work to exercise your old grey matter!!!!!

Good point "well presented" Hippy mind you , as we ve tried everything else might as well give this new "position" a try!!!!!!

Don t think i ll fit in the basket on the bike.How about we have a side car on the bike [like "on the buses" , assume we re all old enough to remember?] and you 3 wheel me round everywhere!!!! Tee Hee....Louise wanders off with very disturbing images of a side car becoming parted from its bike {know its normally a motorbike!!!] and me careering off in to the unknown!!!

RuDiegetheRedNoseReindiege · 22/12/2010 08:57

Morning! I am liking the idea of a side car Louise Grin; don't worry, it will be very well secured. We don't want it to become separated in this weather!
Hippy I have lots of positivity for January bfps. In fact I may be down your way for a conference spring time so we can have a bump meet-up WinkJollster I never forget an upcoming POS session Wink. Way too early though (I hadn;t realised it was quite so early or I wouldn't have nagged...well, just a bit. Good luck for the next test x
Right, today is the cake making day. A bit of a pain as ds sent home from nursery yesterday for 3 loose nappies, so off now for the duration. Nice of course but he will have to fit in with the 'jobs' (dentists etc) and he's not in the greatest of moods shall we say... Have been midly chided on the recipe thread for leaving my cake making so late [grin ] but some helpful advice too.
Love to all!!!

OctaviaOstrichJollster · 22/12/2010 09:09

Morning all

Loving the sidecar idea! diege late or not, am impressed you are making cake at all!!

hippy I know you love a good motivational tale. encouraging reading?

Love to all - had an extremely productive, waste not a minute day yesterday and it's fairly knackered me out!!! But all Xmas shopping done (except forgot one battery!), tree up, just some more wrapping to do, and one present/card to deliver today, and I'm sort of ready. Which is remarkable for me, up until three years ago was always working 6/7 day weeks in December, long hours, much travelling only to collapse on Christmas Eve for 2 days and then back out for the Sale on 27th (DP birthday). Things much easier now!!

Have to take DS for hearing test today as part of his speech therapy. Can't imagine he's going to like it much!!

Tarra for now - back later x

RuDiegetheRedNoseReindiege · 22/12/2010 09:45

Very Envy with your organisational skills Jollster. The cake I must admit is very much an 'on the whim' thing - Nigella I'm not Blush. Must push on with it now I've soaked the fruit though..
YOu have also reminded me about batteries..I knew there was something! Good luck with the hearing test today x

BeattieBow · 22/12/2010 12:24

Hello all, my last day in the office today hurrah!

Anyway, not at all ready for Christmas, dh is at home with the children and doing the food shopping today. I'm slightly concerned about what he's going to get, but have left him a list and a stipulation NOT to go to Asda. He's thoughtfully invited some people round to our house for drinks tomorrow night, and he's more pre-occupied about what booze to buy.

am back on the cbfm and temping this month and feel much more comfortable! I felt too out of control not knowing where I was in my cycle, particularly as my ov day varies so much each month. dh will be off work for ov time so I'm hopeful we'll get some swi in this month. (probably will be struck down with flu now, but will take a leaf out of Curly's book and not let anything stop me!).

Good luck with the cake diege. I did make mine a few weeks ago, but haven't fed it at all, and I'm slightly concerned it's not very airtight, so it will have mould or something on it. I'm not a domestic goddess either, but have written a list of what I'm cooking (for 15 on Christmas day and 16 on Boxing day). My food always goes slightly wrong in some weird way, or I have to substitute an ingredient or deviate from the recipe. But it adds to the anticipation I think!

jolls hope your af stays away and you get a positive test for Christmas.

I'm sure I'll be on here before Christmas, but here's hoping to a very [big fat] positive new year for us all xx

louisesh · 22/12/2010 16:18

Hi all.

Been shopping in Leeds and had a lovely experience that has restored my faith in human kindness.

Was in "lush" buying some treats for me,mum and my sister when the young shop assistant saw my picture of Georgie in my purse she comments on how pretty she is and for 1 minute i think "mmmm...should i shouldn t i?2 so, i told her my beautiful daughter was asleep and born asleep so we re not celebrating xmas this year.She immeadiately, without 1 minute of hesitation, gave me a bottle of their xmas bubble bath free!!! She also said i should never keep Georgie's picture hidden as shes too precious.Cue me: crying!!!!! Soo she came round the counter to give me a hug....I thanked her profusely.She was soo natural and caring she could teach a few older people a thing or 2, particularly, my manager!!!!

What a truely lovely thing to do , considering she ll probably have to pay for the present herself and had no need to ask or care.Next year i ll pop back and see her at some point to let her know just how much she touched me. I also met a lovely train conducter who let me off paying though i was on a train i hadn t paid for due to cancellations and having to go the long way round!!!

Hopefully, these are all little signs of things picking up all towards the "biggest" of prizes!!!! Georgie's brother or sister.

Bet you re happy to break up BB ? Vaguely remember that feeling X

Jolls any news?

Hippy how goes it?

Still baking diege? Knock me up a cake or 2?

Hi to everyone else XX

OctaviaOstrichJollster · 22/12/2010 17:13

louise am in tears reading your post. Glad you had a better (I know they won't be "good" for a while) day today. XX

RuDiegetheRedNoseReindiege · 22/12/2010 18:04

Louise what a lovely, lovely post. So glad that you felt you were able to share your story; I'm sure that is what Georgie would have wanted xxx
Well, the cake is done (in). All seemed to be going well, but mid-way through I noticed that the top had started to burn Hmm. Cue internet investigation which talked about wrapping up cake in newspaper/baking paper etc to avoid said occurance.Now why didn't my recipe say that?? Angry. Anyway, have sliced off the burnt top (cue crumbling sides as still warm (patience not my strong point)and wrapped in foil till I revisit it later...
Love to all - oh and Beattie what's this about 'feeding' the cake?? Confused? Sounds like you will have a good swi window over the festive period!

FrustratedHippy · 22/12/2010 21:38

Louise what a lovely story - didn't know you were a loal Wink
Diege I love you lots for baking your cake now! I am that type!
Hope all good and happy - end of year is a reflective time and it has not been the best year for many ...but onwards and upwards x

FrustratedHippy · 22/12/2010 21:39

'lo c al'

gumblossom · 22/12/2010 22:25

Louise, thank goodness there are some lovely people out there, and that you were touched by one. What a lovely story.It does help restore faith in humankind.

Good to see all the activity going on - cake making,shopping etc. Jolls, you sound super organized! Envy

We had a little drinks party last night with some close friends.It went really well and wasn't too much trouble. I told them about the baby, starting to tell more people (9 weeks today) and my lovely friend Kay was so sweet about it.It was just what I needed to hear as I hadn't been feeling very good, and DH had been a bit gloomy about the pressures this baby would bring.I had spent the morning weeping (hormones!)and feeling bad about all sorts of things. Anyway, back to feeling excited and lucky and happy!And nervous...roll on 12 weeks...I'll see my GP today and discuss the cyst.

So now I had better get to wrapping the gifts.There's a bloody mountain of them and wrapping is my least favorite part of christmas.

Jolls, when will you test again?

louisesh · 23/12/2010 08:33

Thanks all.Does prove, indeed, they are very nice people out in the big bad world.

Hippy i live in Wakefield.Where do you live? [if you don t mind me asking]

Right, off shopping, not xmas shopping!!!! Running out of essentials like shower gel etc....Can t be smelling!!!!

Jolls any news?

Hi diege glad cake baking going to plan.

Gum how lovely you re excited.I ve decided when i next get my bfp, not if, i m going to get as excited as i want theres enough time for me to be sad and depressed if it doesn t work out.I also feel i ve had enough sadness [and still are] to last me a lifetime.I d now like to experience another emotion other than depression.

lia66 · 23/12/2010 17:26

louise just popped on to see how you are and your story also made me cry, some people are just naturals, that girl probably didn't even realise how much that meant to you but simply said what she felt, How I wish more people would do that instead of being embarassed.

I'm glad it warmed you a little, We all know how hard these next couple of days are going to be for you, and I am sure I speak for all of usd when I say that certainly at my Christmas table this year, I'll be raising my alcohol free glass just that little bit higher so that little Georgie can join us for a moment. I wish you peace on Saturday and a busy and very happy 2011. xx

On other things, jolls ? [nosy emoticon]

Hi to everyone else and a very happy christmas to everyone.

TheFairyOnTheTree · 23/12/2010 18:18

Hippy Oh no, that wasn't meant to happen at all. I defintely ordered you a Christmas BFP. Blush I'm afraid with all the snow, things have been a bit up in the air, so maybe it won't arrive until January Wink

Gum Hope you are still feeling as green as ever. Yes, Harvey's Mum's story has me welling up too... and her ex sounds such a tossser too... Did you see the 35 week scan picture of Dotti though? Such a beauty...

Diege Would have thought a woman of the world like you would have known that a whole inch is all the difference in the world.. Although it don't sound much, it's a inch wide circle on the outer rim of the cake, so it increases the area by quite a bit.. If you're a beginner, you can't go far wrong with Delia - you need to make this next October - it even tells you how to the brown paper bit... hopefully you should be able to fit that round the new born Grin

GG What do you mean you haven't updated the stats - how am I meant to hand out Christmas BFPs if I don't know whose ovulating and whose wearing big pants? Confused

Louise Good day, bad day - I think they will just come at you at the moment. All the grief, guilt, hopefulness is just part of this horrible process. Keep going xx

Anyway, I am very concerned about this tricycle with side car you're all riding... I think we need insurance Grin

Jolls any news?

Christmas tree with its everlasting candles is looking stunning by the way. Thinking of you all.

(The Fairy on the Tree waves her magic wand and shimmers sparkly fairy dust on BB Italian Hippy Diege Louise Curly FrustratedHippy and Jolls )

Hope I didn't leave anyone out GG ? Record keeping is NOT my strong point Xmas Wink

louisesh · 23/12/2010 20:26

Lia thats absolutely lovely.You ve bought a tear to my eye with your kind words.Thank you XX.Hope you re keeping well and plodding on with your bump coming along nicely.

Thefairyonthetree I m standing here with my hands wide open catching oodles of baby dust.Don t worry about the insurance after the year i ve had i m living dangerously!!! Hope you re keeping well? When's your scan?

Hope everyone else is ok? XXX

TheFairyOnTheTree · 23/12/2010 20:54

Just realised I wrote "all the grief, guilt, hopefulness is just part of the process"... err... I meant hopelessness... Doh Blush It is blinking hard... just keep soldiering on xx

D-day is next Wed... 12 plus 1 today, still tired and sick - so far so good. I admire your pledge to be hopeful and happy about a BFP - I still feel very edgy... feel I will probably only relax when I die first Grin Doesn't bode well for a happy life, does it!

Just thought people would like to know Lunatic is in hospital with light bleeding (Can she be about 28 weeks now?)... But it seems to be under control now, so hopefully will be home tomorrow.

gumblossom · 23/12/2010 22:28

Hello. Just popped in to let you know I saw my Doctor yesterday and he said he doesn't think the ovarian cyst is anything to be concerned about, which kind of put my mind at ease. Now we wait for a couple of weeks to have bloods, then the nuchal ultrasound.

Unfortunately he also told me he isn't doing obstetrics beyond June 30, so I will start with a new doctor at about 20 weeks. In Australia the care is quite different to the UK. I like the sound of being with a midwife the whole way through. Over here, we see our GP (or an obstetrician if you want to pay heaps) through the pregnancy, and when we go to hospital to have the baby, you have which ever midwife is rostered on. Usually someone you've never met before.And the doc will check in on you and once the baby is delivered will check you both over, and that's it.

He has been our family Dr for 14 years and has been through three pregnancies with me, so it will be strange seeing someone else.

On of the gifts we are going to give our children tomorrow is a book titled "There's Going To Be a baby"www.amazon.com/Theres-Going-Baby-John-Burningham/dp/0763649074
It will be our way of telling them.I'm looking forward to seeing their reactions!

So how's the snow going? Is it settling down? It must make it so hard to get around and get things done.

We are going to the family farm for Christmas Eve dinner tonight, which should be nice. Won't be saying anything about the babe though.Just couldn't handle the negativity at his stage.Only want positive vibes around me!

Have a great Christmas(if you are celebrating).Xmas Smile

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