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The PESH deli for those who are realising there are real live baybees at the end of this.

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rots · 14/06/2010 09:57

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, Bay Amaryllis born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8

UPDIFFED
CUNextTuesday, takes no shit from the Daily Mail, due June 28
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20
CurlyCasper, hospital botherer due July 21 (girl)
Skihorse, cradle snatching web geek, due July 22 (boy)
Carrots, organic hippy hunter, due July 25 (boy)
Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
backinthebox, she bought a racehorse, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
silversky, the biggest farter, due 21 October (first baybee)
Honeymoo, no it's not fucking indigestion, due November 2 (boy)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November 14
ReginaMonologue, big pants, 5* hotels, Bridget Jones due November 20
maswera, jungle hottie - due November (???)
PollyPoo, wants to name her baybee after the dog, The New Messiah is due December 25

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reginaMonologue · 02/07/2010 09:18

ski woooohoooo! so pleased for you Misses, I am in awe of your new found motherhood!

rots good luck at the hospital - hopefully it'll all kick off good and proper naturally without any issues....

curls arse about possible body inflation problem, I guess it's a waiting game?

Who was talking about Hypnobirthing? I too want to look at this but there are no practitioners near me so for those of you who read the books, got any recommendations as to what one to get?

Cosmosis · 02/07/2010 09:30

Julian has masses of dark hair apparently, and she expects to be home after the weekend.

Reggie Igg passed me on the book & cd, if you can wait till after august I can forward on (forgotten when you?re due)

reginaMonologue · 02/07/2010 09:49

cos great news from ski, she sent me a text last night and sounded so proud of Julian - I've no idea why she was panicking crazy Moo! She'll be a super Moma I know it!

The book and CD would be fab if you are up for passing it along the ranks, I'm due 20 November, so I guess that is enough time to learn the tricks?

This Saturday I'm 20 weeks gone, so no more climbing up the hill we'll be on a downward slope (in terms of time!) here on in.

I am minded to put a freckin big wall chart up in the kitchen to count down the days and weeks, that way there is no way to gladly get on with my day with my head in the sand.

It'll also be a good way of marking things down that must be done and by when (I already have and idea that the hospital bag should be packed at least 2 months in advance, judging from recent activity on here!).

Yesterday I picked up the last bit of our iCandy peach - the carrycot. It was a bastard to put together, I tell ye, there will be no dismantling it any time soon for sure.

In other news, I found this super wall stencil site so my jungle theme is now properly in motion. Picasso and Van Goch me and OH ain't, so it'll probably end up looking like so crazy ass Acid-trip induced mess of a mural, but hey I might be cooking the next banksy in here?!

PerfectDromedary · 02/07/2010 09:58

Skiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Sorry to be so late to the party, but mahoosive congratulations to you, my lovely! Hope all is well and you get to read all the excitement soon.

Gin Lovely to see you around these parts! I hope everything is gonna be alright (as Mob Barley once said) with the scan - will have everything crossed for you.

Vaginismus I too am screwing up royally at work at the moment. Is too hard to concentrate while also retaining grim sense of De Nile.

PollyPoo · 02/07/2010 10:27

Rots sorry this a bit late as your are already at hossie now, but I hope you get on okay and don't get bullied into anything you are not comfortable with. We did hypnobirthing classes for first pregnancy and our tutor is also a midwife. She taught us loads about medical intervention, what our rights are and how medical staff often use language to make it sound that you have no choice, and this is just 'how things are done', when actually nothing is further from the truth. She taught us how medical intervention just for the sake of it (getting a bed back, midwife wants you finished before she leaves her shift etc) is not good for mum or good for baby. When your waters go you are generally told you can have so long before you will be induced, in order to avoid infection. However, the chance of infection comes from mw's sticking hands/speculum/air up your foof and introducing all kind of air-born stuff. The birth canal is a buffer between baybee and 'the outide' to keep out the crap and keep baybee safe, so without intervention chances of infection are minimal. And of course, consultants/mws can only make recommendations - the choice is ultimately yours. I don't mean that you should automatically discount any advice given as 'they are just trying to get me in and out asap', of course there are occasions where you or baybee may be in danger and you really do need medical intervention (like Ski for example). It is the unnecessary intervention that I object to! I just believe it pays to be well informed and understand your rights. Power to the PESHes!

Sorry, I get on my soapbox a bit about it, as you can tell!

Cosmosis · 02/07/2010 10:28

reggie that shoudl be plenty of time, just remind me after Artie is here and I'll post them.

she does sound really proud of him doesn't she! is lovely

reginaMonologue · 02/07/2010 10:37

cos super! thanks a lot!

It's nearly that time ladies for a new thread so anyone who wants updating on the NOT-LIST better spout out now...

I should like (boy) adding after my entry if that is OK by the NOT-LIST master creator, who ever that is this time!

reginaMonologue · 02/07/2010 10:39

poo ooh, I hear you on the intervention malarky - my midwife was drilling on about c-sections at my booking in appointment based solely on the fact I'm a lard arse. Tsk. I put her in her place a bit sharpish, but geeezus. Give a girl a chance to push why don'tcha - in fact I think I might have said those very words to her face... .

PollyPoo · 02/07/2010 10:42

That is bloody outrageous Reg! Glad to hear you put her straight.

reginaMonologue · 02/07/2010 10:55

SALE ALERT

It looks like Mamas & Papas have a sale on pretty much most things on their website...

FannyPriceless · 02/07/2010 10:56

rots Thinking of you. I'm visualising hospital corridors lined with lavender bushes just for you. I have every confidence that you are well equipped to make sure this birth takes the best path possible in the circumstances. All PESH power and calm to you!

ski Dark hair! Ooo! I am all a-soppy for you, JB and Julian. Hope you are being looked after in the hotel hospital.

VAG Totally understandable. And I don't think you're pathetic at all! I think we all go through a 'but I'm not like this! what the hell is going on?' mini-identity crisis during pregnancy. Only fitting I guess as (troo fakt) you will never be the same person again after all this.

FannyPriceless · 02/07/2010 11:24

THE NOT LIST

reg As I understand it, the not-list has no master creator. It is simply an organic product of the collective PESH journey. Or sumfink.

The not-rules for the not-list are:

  1. The not-list is only produced once at the start of each new thread, so if your update gets missed you need to wait until the start of the next thread.
  2. You decide how much/how little is said about you.
  3. Newbies still in denial can of course decline to be listed until they feel more comfortable - or do like VAG and stay in de Nile until 6 months pg.
  4. We always manage to miss someone.

So here's a first draft. Please add / delete / amend as you see fit.

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, Bay Amaryllis born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8
CurlyCasper, girl, born June 24
CUNextTuesday, born June 29
Skihorse, boy, born 1 July

UPDIFFED
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20
Carrots, organic hippy hunter, due July 25 (boy)
Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
backinthebox, she bought a racehorse, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
silversky, the biggest farter, due 21 October (first baybee)
Honeymoo, no it's not fucking indigestion, due November 2 (boy)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November 14
ReginaMonologue, knows when all the sales are, due November 20 (boy)
maswera, jungle hottie - due November (???)
PollyPoo, wants to name her baybee after the dog, The New Messiah is due December 25

POSSIBLE NEWBIES TO BE ADDED - please confirm
Muser
Ginhag
saltyair
PerfectDromedary

PerfectDromedary · 02/07/2010 11:35

Fanks for thinking of me, FannyHill, but am deffo still in de Nile, and would rather not be added to list.

But HOW exciting, seeing all the lovely babies what have been born.

FannyPriceless · 02/07/2010 11:53

camelina Duly noted and removed. We shall never speak of it again. (Line? What line?)

And of course we are all hoping rots will jump up the list before the new thread.

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, Bay Amaryllis born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8
CurlyCasper, girl, born June 24
CUNextTuesday, born June 29
Skihorse, boy, born 1 July

UPDIFFED
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20
Carrots, organic hippy hunter, due July 25 (boy)
Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
backinthebox, she bought a racehorse, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
silversky, the biggest farter, due 21 October (first baybee)
Honeymoo, no it's not fucking indigestion, due November 2 (boy)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November 14
ReginaMonologue, knows when all the sales are, due November 20 (boy)
maswera, jungle hottie - due November (???)
PollyPoo, wants to name her baybee after the dog, The New Messiah is due December 25

POSSIBLE NEWBIES TO BE ADDED - please confirm
Muser
Ginhag
saltyair

organiccarrotcake · 02/07/2010 11:55

Hi all - back from hossie.

First things first. I've had a text from ski and she sounds quite bright. Tried calling her but went to voicemail so I guess she's tied up with something else... can't think what . ski if you manage to get online - we miss you and huge congratulations

cassie I know you know this but the first few days/week of BF are the single most important so at least babycas has had the anti-nasties from your milk. This may be too much to consider but maybe it's worth, if you can, expressing as much as possible so you have another few days for her? Whatever happens, the work you did since she was born to keep her on BM has made a lot of difference to her health so if she has to go on formula now, well, she's had a wonderful start and thank goodness we have formula so we at least have options.

cunty hope all is well with you and your little guy. Thinking of you.

newly diffeds Please do join us. I know the first weeks are horrendous and you may wish to wait until things are settled but it's lovely to hear your fabulous diffy news and we really want you here.

OK, so onto my news. Firstly, can I thank absolutely everyone for being so kind in your messages. It's amazing what the support of you guys does to cheer up a down differ.

poo you would be proud of me. What poo said above is really worth reading as it's exactly how I feel and part of the reason I was so distressed about going in this morning. We got there and I realised I'd forgotten my notes, so YOB went home to get them and was gone for nearly an hour. I just sobbed my little heart out for the whole time he was gone as I was so scared about what might happen. I actually found myself starting to panic attack as we walked into the hossie and had to take a firm grip of myself. This isn't me!

Anyway, when we got onto the ward, and while I was waiting for my notes, the MW came to talk to me and I managed to explain what I was worried about. It's mostly being railroaded and not being able to make our own decisions - obviously in conjunction with the medical advice, but with YOB and I being able to understand the options and decide what is best for us.

What poo said was really interesting because they said things like, "we need to do a speculum examination". I then asked exactly why they wanted to do that because I was concerned about infection. I was told that it was to find out for sure whether my waters had gone. So that was easy - I could decline that as there's no doubt about it. But, if I'd not asked, it would have been done and - bang - big infection risk.

Anyway, to try to keep this relatively short (too late!), I was put on a trace (absolutely fine), BP, temp and urine checked - all fine. No signs of infection at all. We discussed the risk of infection actually happening (low) v the risk to the baby if it happened (high) v the risk of failed induction/section. Between us we decided to wait another 24 hours, go in tomorrow morning to check for infection again and play it by ear from there. I will probably go onto oral antibis tomorrow as a precaution, but that's fine. There's no indication at this point that I will be pushed into induction provided that there's no sign of infection. And I am now comfortable with induction or even section if there is a proven infection as at that point the risk to the little fella from the infection is greater than the risk to him and me from the induction/section.

I can't have a home birth. Well, obviously I CAN but just in case there's an infection just starting if I deliver naturally I need to have him close to the neonatal unit for immediate treatment. I am disappointed, but much, much happier with this if it's a natural delivery than the other options that may have happened this morning.

Interestingly my notes read that I came in for an induction and then decided that I wanted to wait and see. Not true at all - they asked me to come in for a check! It was very clear that had I not questioned everything and been really clear in my own mind (when I say me/I I mean both YOB and I) then I would have been automatically taken in for induction today. Furthermore, had I said I didn't want an induction and I wanted a section, it was clear that I'd have been sent home to pack a bag and it would have been done this afternoon.

Each to their own and another person may feel that the wait and see option was too risky for their comfort zone. Our choice wouldn't be everyone's choice, but, what is so nice and reassuring was that we got to work through the choices with a doctor who really listened to our questions, answered them as honestly as she was able to (obviously some things are unknowns) and let us make our own mind up from the list of acceptable options.

So the plan today is lots of walks (lucky dog), checking my temperature regularly and not letting people stick their hands up my foof . Back to hossie tomorrow morning for monitoring.

I will probably be offline today but will post tonight, whether there's news or not.

Thank you again everyone. You're all fab

organiccarrotcake · 02/07/2010 12:02

UPDIFFED
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20

Carrots, giving birth in a lavender field, damn it, due July 25 (boy)

Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
backinthebox, she bought a racehorse, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
silversky, the biggest farter, due 21 October (first baybee)
Honeymoo, no it's not fucking indigestion, due November 2 (boy)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November 14
ReginaMonologue, knows when all the sales are, due November 20 (boy)
maswera, jungle hottie - due November (???)
PollyPoo, wants to name her baybee after the dog, The New Messiah is due December 25

My current plan is, I have some lavender just come into flower and I'm taking a bunch into the hospital so I can sort of, kind of, you know... (if I close my eyes).

PollyPoo · 02/07/2010 12:40

Rots I'm really glad they listened to you and you are happy with how things are proceeding. Let's hope it all kicks off naturally and you won't need any more messing about!

Cosmosis · 02/07/2010 12:52

Well done rots that sounds like a perfect result!

Um, this non list. I don?t like it. I seem to be no 3 on it thanks to all these early arrivals, please to be changing it?

Had a couple more texts from ski apparently she got no sleep because they have been too busy looking at Julian and grinning. Ha ha ha, the hard nut has cracked

FannyPriceless · 02/07/2010 13:04

rots Yay to lavender field... even if it is in a hossie garden. Sorry the home birth is off, but you do right to be close to neonatal under these circumstances. As you know prob better than any of us, a change of plan doesn't have to mean all your intentions go out the window. So I hope you get to keep a lot of what you had hoped for overall.

One question though - does the birth pool now become a doggie swimming pool? (As always, slap me if I'm being flippant.)

cossie Did you ever check out the other hospital further north? I think you mentioned you were thinking of it.

Lovely thinking of ski all soppy. Awww!

My lovely boy has just gone to sleep. I'm now going to (TMI alert) go and scrub locchia off the mattress protector. The glamour of new motherhood.

Cosmosis · 02/07/2010 13:11

FP we have a tour there at the start of Aug, so we'll see.

Muser · 02/07/2010 13:52

I don't think I can go on the non-list, not yet. I want my Monday scan, don't mind missing a round if it means fate remains untempted.

Good for you rots, sticking up for yourself. And hurray to skidaddle too.

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 02/07/2010 16:32

Text from Ski: "Please send my love to the palace and deli girls, all your support during this difficult week has been incredible."

PollyPoo · 02/07/2010 16:43

I think best not put Gin on the Not List either. I think, like Muse and Drom, she would rather wait and see how this one pans out.

Hehe, Ski has gone soft. Thanks for the message Vag

VoilaAnotherGimlet · 02/07/2010 16:44

Rots - sorry, didn't respond, have been thinking about your post and WisePoo's - very interesting and helpful information. I'm a "do what I'm told" type usually, so it's really useful to hear all that so I can try to make a proper decision and begin to question decisions with some knowledge.

Cosmosis · 02/07/2010 16:54

What rots did was something we were taught at NCT ? Brain ? reasoning to go through with an HCP when they suggest some form of intervention@

Benefits what are the benefits of what you are suggesting
Risk what are the risks of what you are suggesting
Alternatives ? what are the alternatives to what you are suggesting?
Insctincts ? what are my instincts telling me?
Nothing ? what happens if we do nothing