The PESH deli for those who are realising there are real live baybees at the end of this.

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BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, Bay Amaryllis born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8

UPDIFFED
CUNextTuesday, takes no shit from the Daily Mail, due June 28
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20
CurlyCasper, hospital botherer due July 21 (girl)
Skihorse, cradle snatching web geek, due July 22 (boy)
Carrots, organic hippy hunter, due July 25 (boy)
Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
backinthebox, she bought a racehorse, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
silversky, the biggest farter, due 21 October (first baybee)
Honeymoo, no it's not fucking indigestion, due November 2 (boy)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November 14
ReginaMonologue, big pants, 5* hotels, Bridget Jones due November 20
maswera, jungle hottie - due November (???)
PollyPoo, wants to name her baybee after the dog, The New Messiah is due December 25

curls you are my new hero!!

Great idea to debrief, and you sound a lot happier about the whole thing.

skates that bump pic is fabulous!

I texted ski earlier re the fred on preggo "is it safe to sunbathe in 3rd tri" I thought it might be up her street I think she just wishes she was able to get online to have a pop give constructive advice to them.

Before I read anyone else's posts - Saltygo and read the instructions! I distinctly remember saying that it does not go up after 2-3 weeks pregancy. You are fine you menkulist!!!

Salty it says here on CB website:

The Conception Indicator is 92% accurate at detecting when you conceived, when testing with the first urine of the day. The estimate is based on the level of hCG in your urine. The level of hCG varies from woman to woman, and it is therefore possible that the Conception Indicator might occasionally give misleading results.
If you are testing more than 6 weeks after conception the Conception Indicator may give unexpected results. This is because the level of hCG in the urine is too high to provide an accurate estimate of the time since conception.

Now go and stick yer feet in the frigging paddling pool and chillllllllll.

sorry, not back to back - more side-on bodywise. But she was presenting her wide face to the cervix rather than her smaller crown. (chin tilted up) There were all sorts of theories about her position at one point. They thought maybe back to back, then maybe breech (and I was ready to demand a CS), then finally realised she just wanted to come out nose first! it took three docs, two MWs, sister and an ultrasound to suss it out.

Oh, and she had three neonatal docs immediately after birth because of a white rash, which was declared benign, but which no-one (from all of the above) had ever seen before! Little Diva

yes, salty, please chill out. I was temping when TTC and continued after the BFP - until I had a massive drop that made me panic the way you are now. I buried the thermometer in a drawer and embraced my symptom-free diffed status. especially when hearing about the crap other people were putting up with.

sky good news re movement. that's quite a typical pattern so Good News! Just wait, you might have one that eventually moves all day every day. I did, and she'd no different on the outside. Hands and feet everywhere, trying everything, usually resulting in mess (grabbed a cup at one feed and ended up with the contents all over her head!). Enjoy!

Massively distracted earlier (still got family here. Dad arrived last night, complete with extra dog). Off to send some skilove.

happy ML rotster!

right, that is my menkuling done. If I begin again please would someone thump me?

*shortncurlies> how are you so chilled and sane sounding so shortly after popping out the girlchild? I think I might love you...

Silver I feel your pain. I too am beginning to waddle, grunt and have trouble bending down. Mini Moo also not too active unless I'm sitting down for a good bit... definitely more kicky in the evening. Weeing in the night has not stopped for me at all... every night between 2 and 4 I'm on the loo. Pain in the arse but gettng more used to it now.

Have booked weekly pilates classes starting from next week. Is time to get my muscles in shape, not least because the laughing/sneezing small bit of wee is fucking worrying. It'll be a flood once mini moo comes out.

I have a friend who is tres fashion and throughout her entire pregnancy I never saw her in anything else other than wetlook leggings and cashmere belted cardigan. She looked amazing, I can imagine that I would however look like a crack whore that had been shopping in oxfam.

salty we can offer more than just a good old thump. In fact, we have an entire selection of violence from which you are very welcome too. Consider it a "pick and mix".

So what do you fancy starting with? Sharp tug of hair perhaps ?

salty a couple of days' rest and the presence of an amazing little person will chill you out. My priorities are sooooo different now. I am normally a control freak, a complete stresshead about the silly little things, but TBH she is all that matters to me now. So, for example, when hospital discharge was taking ages yesterday and SFF was getting more and more angry, I was happy to sit sit and wait, content that my child had just been getting the best care.

Managed a wee bit of gardening today!

Bloody hell Curls you'll be baking bread next... Good for you lady, so glad you are loving it.

Salty I can offer chinese burn or pull your pants up wedgey.

silverina perhaps I could start with a hair tug and proceed directly to some vicious pinching?

Please to remember that my mum and dad are spoiling me rotten with care and support. Reality will strike come Saturday!

Do your m&d live nearby? Or are they staying with you?

I've been trying to decide if parents should stay with us from word go (this is the assumed plan so far) or whether we should have a day or 2 on our own to gaze at mini moo. We are v close family, so don't have a prob in theory, just don't know how I will feel and whether I will just want my husband...

my parents live five hours' drive away. mum made it here to be a birth partner -arriving just as i was being sent to labour ward at 5cm dilated. dad had some big meetings to attend with work and finally escaped last night. it has been blissful having mum here. we were close, but now are sharing absolultely everthing. i highly recommend it, but only if you have the sort of parents who will handle it when you tell it to them straight

also, sff has been stressed about certain things and, not intentionally, upsetting me. we are both just tired and emotional. But it has been good to vent to mum and cry on her shoulder, rather than have things escalate unnecesarily with my hubby. mum has also managed a few careful words to set him back on a more sensible approach. i heart my mum.

saltybits your wish is my command. Whatever chills you out.

nectarbovine crack whore. Can see you now! I too look less than glam. More like a shambles.

casp all sounds very positive! I don't have relationship with my mum so that element is removed. So I have MIL instead. Who is great but at times I could really hurt. I know I am bound to be possesive about new bayberry and I hate people taking over or making decisions for me without consulting me. Who said I have ishoos?

silver as long as you have a support network, it does not matter who is in it. I don't have any friends living nearby, so I have noone (not an exaggeration)except SFF to vent to in person, and don't feel I could lift the phone to any of my far away friends for those reasons. I am one of the first to have kids, so noone would get it.

so that's where mum and MN come in. Probably why I have been on here so much TBH. Nothing to do with having strength or spare time. Just a necessity.

Just make sure youe MIL will listen. Mine is a lovely person, but has fixed views that are V different from mine and I would not have the heart to tell her straight when to shut up/do something etc. And I certainly could not vent my frustration about her PFB son's behaviour at times.

I should be clear that SFF has been AMAZING in general. again, I am v, v, v lucky.

Oh I have no problem telling MIL if I didn't agree with something and I can be firm enough that she has to listen.

Like you caspcasp MN has been a bit of an oasis for me. I never imagined it would be but it has proved to be brilliant.

Hello girls, we iz back
pics on t'other place...

Brief resume (for the nosey interested):

Waters broke 9.30, up to hossie and back.

Contractions at home till 4.30am, went to hossie when they were 3 in 10 mins

Assessed, 4cm dilated. More contraxons, tried G&A, got bored with it, preferred controlled breathing.

Pool filled up, jumped in at 7am. Instant difference in pain level.

Laboured in pool till 10am when pushing urge began

Delivered at 4.35pm, via 6 HOURS of pushing, in amongst having to get out of pool, into stirrups, identification of small half-millimetre of cervix which hadn't contracted back meaning Rastus couldn't drop, only way to deal with this apparently was emcs, visited by drugs dude to explain, but meanwhile had been hooked up to Syntocin drip in attempt to dislodge bit of cervix so continued to contract but was not allowed to push. And at that point I had my G&A because needing to push and not being allowed to is simply the worst thing in the world.

Just before was due to bust theatre, some other woman was taken in for an emergency which meant I would be left waiting an hour in a great deal of discomfort. Doc examined me again out of idle curiosity, pronounced bit of cervix retracted and I should do it all naturally from now on. Another hour of pushing had him out.

So the maximum intervention was threatened but in the end I did it with just hypnobirthing, water and a bit of G&A when it was all looking hopeless. It was totally surreal, and when it was over I genuinely had to ask if it was 5 in the afternoon or the morning.

Any update from ski?

i am so not worthy cunty. six hours of pushing handled with hippobirthing = you must be a higher level being. "well done" does not cover it. i want to shout about how well you've done. i'll do a breast jiggle instead, seeing as i have them out at the mo - NAKing, as FP puts it

Wow cunty amazing! So you didn't go to the birth centre then obviously? 6 HOURS? Cripes.

Small update here. Waters gone. That's all.

rots waters gone! THAT's ALL!?

Talk about timing!!!

Good luck and the prize is just round the corner!

I am in awe of cunty. And rots, waters gone? Oh my.

Well, it really is all

Thought I may be getting some contractions overnight with mildest periody feelings but no tightenings accompanied by delightful leakage so presumed it was more being squeezed out (TMI yet?) but it came to nuffin.

No show, dry this morning, bit fed up. Almost feel I dreamt it other than bed still wet (slept on towels and got through 3 before it stopped) and soaked sanitary pad still in bathroom ready for MW. Nice.

Fortunately had bed protector on (required!! would have needed new mattress on V large bed!).

Also V good news - waters totally clear so no meconium.

Feeling sicky this am. Not sure if that's nerves or labour hormones. Slight pain/discomfort in wombular region - not contractions and desperatel hoping its not an infection.

MW due for home visit at 11 anyway but we've left a message with her.

All V confusing. LC was really straightforward - I woke up with what were obviously and clearly contractions and had a show... all easy (even if it didn't go to plan at least I knew what was going on).

Trying not to stress about it not kicking off and being induced.

Suspect much walking on the cards today.