The Continuing Adventures of the First Time Frolicker Graduates....

[Hermya321]

Right (plonks self down and breaks out the biscuit tin and tea bags), I've stuck the kettle on. Whose joining me?

ARRIVALS:

Fulhamgirl - EDD 30th May - DOB 9th Apr - Girl - Lily Ann - 4lb

CURRENT__GRADUATES:

Trying4Baby1 - BFP 21st Aug - 25th Apr - Girl
Kaystar - BFP 27th Aug - EDD?
Pepperonipizza - BFP 12th Sep - 24th May - Boy
Ladyemmalou83 - BFP 13th Oct - 23rd Jun - Girl - Erin Elizabeth
bluesnowfalcon - BFP 14th Oct - EDD?
DesperateHousewife21 - BFP 3rd Nov - EDD 18th Jul - Boy - Dylan
Spirael - BFP 7th Nov - EDD 25th Jul - Secret
Curlycasper - BFP 11th Nov - EDD 21st Jul - Girl
EmsieRo - BFP 16th Nov - EDD 20th Jul
vix206 - BFP 8th Dec - EDD 22nd Aug
HypotheticalMummy - BFP 9th Dec - EDD?
Ozziegirly - BFP 16th Dec - EDD 24th Aug
NovemberAli - BFP 24th Dec - EDD 2nd Sep
Eleanora - BFP 28th Dec - EDD 4th Sep
WhiteRoses - BFP 11th Jan - EDD 15th Sep - Boy
hamsterlover - BFP 11th Jan - EDD?
Hobnob - BFP 17th Jan - EDD 26th Sep
MadameG - BFP 17th Jan - EDD 16th Sep
pixiestix - BFP 18th Jan - EDD 24th Sep
ceebs05 - BFP 22nd Jan - EDD 29th Sep
addie81 - BFP 28th Jan - EDD 8th Oct
chancewouldbeafinething - BFP 1st Feb - EDD 11th Oct
WorrisomeHeart - BFP 29th Jan - EDD 12th Oct
Hermya321 - BFP 12th Feb - EDD 24th Oct
fudgecat - BFP 19th Feb ? EDD 28th Oct
Pidgin - BFP 27th Feb - EDD?
Honeymoo - BFP ? - EDD 1st Nov
YorkshireTeaDrinker - BFP 1st Mar - EDD 6th Nov
DrewsGirl - BFP 4th Mar - EDD?
bunnygirl80 - BFP 12th Mar - EDD 19th Nov
Mumnerves - BFP 1st Apr - EDD 8th Dec
Spanishlady - BFP 3rd Apr - EDD?
luckyseven - BFP 8th Apr - EDD 17th Dec
Capricorn76 - BFP 12th Apr - EDD 1st Jan
Homebound - BFP 30th Apr - EDD 8th Jan

FUTURE_GRADUATES:

aly323
Ariesgirl
Bellaby
calligraphy82
Calyx
CaveMum
chalky3
cher rycobbler
claireinthecommunity
Dinkytinky
evilgiraffe
FelicityFlick
haloflo
Kaloki
kkas
kurl yvoice
misshoohaa
MrsWajs
Muser
Papertiger
pinkiePoo
pipsicles
seablue
Sevans
Stiffybyn g
Wannamummy
Zippys

thanks for popping into update us fudge. I am thinking of you and splodge regularly. Fantastic news that you are still hanging in there. Also, although it isn't much help to you now it is good that they have been able to identify a possible reason for the problem as not knowing must be difficult for you and DH.

I have nothing interesting to report, except that I think my bump has dropped today. I am 33 +4 so its about the right time for it to happen. My tummy seems smaller and lower and I can feel more pressure further down. I also need to wee even more often (I had thought that would not be possible......!) which makes me think the baby has dropped down a bit and is squooshing my badder even more.

Good luck this week ozzie!

Congrats to MrsW and soar
knicker checking is completely normal, I think the cramps don't help as it feels like af is around the corner

Congrats on the scan oneof8 and halo !!!

fudge pleased to hear splodge is hanging on, what a little fighter!! Hope they manage to do something about the fibroid safely, thinking of you, splodge and dp x

Ozzie how exciting!! Do let us know how it goes and good luck :)

Hermya I think I'll be going down the childminder route as well, a colleague who used to be a childminder told me all sorts of horror stories about nurseries that it kinda put me off. If you're in UK you can go to ofcom and look at the childminder's individual reports to find a good one :)

worrisome glad you're not stressing too much anymore. Really want to see toystory 3 but can't seem to convince DH :(

spirael 6 weeeks!!! Where has the time gone! Glad to hear you and Mindy are doing well and motherhood seems to suit you :)

penguin hope your sickness starts getting better, just a few more weeks to go x

Am 24 weeks now which means LO is a viable foetus!! On the down side, am getting kicked alot at night and sometimes wake up with my insides feeling bruised and absolutely shattered:(

Felt LO hiccuping the other morning which was lovely but a bit weird. couldn't decide what it was at first as it was not that random but didn't feel like a kick :o

Sounds awful but am getting a bit fed up and grouchy now. Is anyone else hot all the time? DH said our bedroom was freezing last night but I was throwing the covers off. Not sure how ladies in hot countries manage!

Have a good week everyone x

Fudge So glad to hear from you, been thinking about you and family a lot.

Not sure how you felt about knowing the reason the hospital say but, hope it was some comfort.

You are still right up there for inspirational people for me! I can only imagine what you are feeling over the past weeks, and sure this doesn't scratch the surface of how you actually feel.

Can only hope you take our support and this keeps you strong xxx

Just wanted to pop in and say good luck to fudge. Splodge is such a fighter - am keeping everything crossed for you both.

I've been in hospital twice over the past two days. Once yesterday and once today, today time on the monitors. LO had been very quiet today, I didn't think anything of it really as he was jumping around like a hyperactive bouncy ball last night. I had my 31 week check today (all fine and dandy BTW) and mentioned that he had been quiet today and next thing I know I'm being sent off to the hospital to be monitored. It really freaked me out, it was all so sudden. LO was fine and was playing hide and seek with me and the midwife, he was described as a 'bouncy little bunny' and danced away like some sort of raver in a pub.

Yesterday was because I had a really bad headache and pain in my ribs which can be signs of hypertension, I still have it but everything else is fine such as BP and bloods so who the hell knows whats going on.

I dunno.

On the plus side, I got to look around my hospitals labour ward as no one was in at that point. My word, it looks fab. Also they gave me some toast and I have to say the rumours about labour ward toast are true. I don't know what they do to it, but it was lovely even when it was a bit cold it still tasted good (they offered me a slice and I thought 'why not, I'm not going anywhere for a while').

After all this, I'm going to be packing a basic hospital bag tonight. I figure with this run of things, I can't be too careful.

Mumnerves Mine feels like a muscle twitching, it is a strange one isn't it. I had the whole angry pregnant woman thing going on throughout the whole of my second trimester, I'm into my third now and everything is lovely and wonderful .

Worrisome I'm glad you're not as stressed now.

Penguin Have you tried Shared Earth Lemongrass and Ginger Cordial, that and Tesco stem ginger cookies worked for me at times. I hope you feel better soon though.

Hello!

A flying visit to wish lots of luck to Ozzie - I can't wait to hear how you get on as you are my GD guru!

Hope that your weekly scan was positive yesterday Fudge - I think about you and Splodge every day.

Big congrats to Saor and MrsW.

I am 35+4 today and everything seems to be going fine, thank god.

Love to the lot o' ya! xxx

Sounds like a scary couple of days Hermya, glad to hear everything was okay with your bouncy little bunny!

I have been feeling a lot of little H's hiccups too, they seem to often come in the middle of the night and wake me up!

Looking forward to news of Ozzie and baby Ozzie

I can't believe it's been such a long time since I was last on here. I think I've finally caught up, but then given my memory seems to be made of crochet at the moment I've probably forgotten it all.

But I wanted to say to fudge that I've been thinking of you even when I've not been checking in. You and your DH are being unbelievably strong. I really hope that there is something they can do about the fibroid and that that might help the situation. You've been amazing.

And ozzie - wow! Good luck!

pixie - can't believe your DH made you feel bad about the GD. As if this pregnancy lark wasn't hard enough with people making us feel guilty and inadequate over everything (and that's before you become a mother!). Hope you're getting it all under control - I'd find controlling my diet really hard, but hopefully it will make you feel better and therefore be worth it.

aly - sorry to hear about your grandmother and your difficult decision. So glad you got to speak to her. I know how much you must want to see her before it's too late.

addie - sorry about your fall, must have been terrifying. Hope the baby does its turning thing, and for you too, worrisome - I know people who've had very late turners. Cranial osteopathy is the answer, apparently (!)

spirael - lovely to read the latest updates on Mindy - sounds as if you're staying wonderfully sane!

hermya - glad you're blooming! Though sorry for the hospital visit, but yay for the toast.

And hello to penguin, muser haloflo and mrswajs - think I remember you from my endless months on the FFF thread! To add to the straw poll, my ms began at 6 weeks and got better gradually between 14 and 16 weeks. As did the feeling of being constantly hungover!

It's really nice to be back on here. I stopped posting because I've just been feeling rubbish (but I realise that that's probably a reason to keep posting!). We went on holiday in mid July when I was 16 weeks. I had about a week of feeling better, as ms was passing, and then, after some energetic coastal walks, I got this horrible pain in my pubic bone. Felt as if I'd been kicked by an angry horse. hermya - you'll know where I'm coming from, I think. Yes - the dreaded SPD struck with no warning and has continued ever since. I'd been so looking forward to feeling human again and gathering my strength during the "glowing" second trimester, and now I'm hobbling around like an old woman and worrying that it won't go away after the birth and I'll never be able to lift or play with my baby. Or walk. I've been seeing a lovely physio and have started Pilates, and that, along with walking VERY SLOWLY seem to be keeping it under control in that it's not getting worse. But I'm only 21 weeks! If I knew it would stop with delivery I could deal with it for 4 months, even if I end up on crutches. But I've totally freaked myself out about it not going away, or being exacerbated by birth, and have had some really really down days.

Anyway - that's my splurge. Got my 20 week scan on Friday, and am hoping for no more nasty surprises!

Hope you'll take me back, lovely ladies - it was great to hear all your news. And so exciting to think there'll be new frolicker babies soon!

Sorry to everyone I missed out - one day I will learn to take notes!

I took the afternoon off of work and have spent the majority of it watching Family Guy and napping on the sofa, which I totally needed.

Seablue Good luck with your scan, are you going to find out the sex at all? also in relation to the SPD, in the vast vast majority of cases it is something that does tend to resolve itself after birth. The way to stop birth making it worse is choosing positions which don't make it worse, on all fours is good or leaning over a sofa. When you start to write your birth plan look at the pelvic partnership website. Another tip I was given is a few weeks before you're due (or in very early stages or labour if surprised), get a belt and open your legs as far as you can without pain. Once you've done that, get your belt/belts and secure them at that length. When you're in full on labour, you can wear the belts around your legs. I know it sounds odd but it will stop you over extending your pelvis and will also give you something to strain against. This will also help if you have an epidural as it will let the midwives know how far apart they can move your legs without damage. My friend did this and it worked a treat, she now has a six month old and no issues at all. Also make sure that SPD sufferer is written across your notes and birthplan and get whoevers with you to tell new people that come into the room when you labour. Mine did get a lot worse towards the end of my second trimester, but I've gone onto restricted hours at work and it seems to have worked a treat and has improved my pain management. I know it's crappy but it should resolve itself with birth. Also have you thought about seeing an Osteopath? The Pelvic Partnership recomended one to me and he's been really good with me. Then again, if your physio is good you might not need one. Also rest, rest, rest and as my physio said to me, 'act like you're wearing a really short skirt and no pants'. It makes me laugh, but it helps to remind me to keep my knees together. I hope some of this rambling was helpful, just take it easy on yourself and let me know if you have any questions.

Pixie 35 weeks, gosh you haven't got lot have you. I bet you can't wait to meet your LO.

Sorry Seablue forgot to add that some people say Waterbirth is good for SPD as the water can help support the pelvic joints.

seablue welcome back to the thread! Sorry to hear you're suffering with SPD - I hope it doesn't get any worse over the rest of your pregnancy. Good luck with your scan

hermya two trips to hospital in as many days doesn't sound like fun, but at least it sounds like your mw takes potential problems seriously. A day watching Family Guy sounds like time well spent

pixie not long to go for you now!!

I'm still getting lots of comments from people about the neat size of my bump so a good week for me so far It's definitely grown a lot recently though as most of the non-maternity clothes I was quite happily wearing two weeks ago no longer fit! Think I'll have to wear one of DH's t shirts to the gym today, after I ended up with my belly hanging out of my normal kit everytime I moved last time I went

Slinks in after ages

Hello fellow frolickers!

I'm now 35+4 and my MW appt on Monday confirmed my suspicions, my Little Miss is indeed breech, and according to the scan, is curled into almost a 'C' shape.

She's got 2 weeks to move into a head down position (got another hospital appt for 2 wks time), if not then they'll most probably give me a date for a caesarean section at 39 weeks. The MW gave me a leaflet on a procedure called an ECV, where I'll have to go in to delivery after 37 wks and they'll try and move her round. The MW seemed quite positive that she'd move on her own or that the ECV might work, but also said that sometimes there's a reason why she's not head down such as I might have an odd shaped uterus. I just know that she's not going to move, she's been breech ever since we had the 20 wk scan, and she still is.

I have to say I'm totally shitting myself at the thought of having major surgery just to have my baby, I never even gave caesarean's a thought, I always thought I'd be able to deliver naturally, naively! I've been in tears at the thought since, I just can't cope with it. I'm worried it might ruin my chances to be able to breastfeed too, as I desperately wanted to be able to try and breastfeed as soon after the birth as possible.

I don't know whether to have the ECV as I've read a fair few horror stories about it being painful and how lots of ladies end up having an EMCS after it. Equally I don't particularly want a CS, such an awful decision to make!

Hey hobnob great to 'see' you again!

Completely agree with your fears re the ECV - my LO is breech (or at least, was at the last m/w appt 3 weeks ago) and I've decided that if he stays breech then we're not doing the ECV. I have found that reading about elec c/s and how they don't have to be horrible has really helped me get to grips with the thought that we might be going down that road. Like you, I'd not even considered that we might be having a c-sec so it's been good to have my fears allayed somewhat. I've spoken to some friends who've had them (and one who had an unsuccessful ECV) and that's helped too. Lots of useful threads here on MN too - especially some about breastfeeding - there's really no reason why it has to be difficult after a c-sec, particularly an elective. Hope you find it becomes an easier decision.

hermya sorry your week has been so rough, but I agree with bunny - great that you're getting such good care from the m/w.

All fine with me - am wondering if the boy is on the turn, had some funny movements the last couple of days but nothing conclusive (knowing my luck, he'll turn transverse!) Becasue of the bank hols, my next m/w isn't for another fortnight which is frustrating - I want to know what way he is now!

Have a great rest of the week all...

Hello,

I know this is going to sound completely "woo" and wanky even as I type it but for you ladies whose babies are breech - in my antenatal yoga class last week the teacher was showing us some different shiatsu moves to turn babies. Apparently there is some kind of meridian line going down your body and into your little toe. If you squeeze your little toe so that the outside edge receives a good lot of pressure, it is "sure" to encourage your baby to flip round. Sounds dubious to me, but hey it can't hurt! Periodically squeeze your little toe throughout the day for a few days and hey presto! Sounds insnae, but I know if mine was breech I would probably be trying every old wives tale in the book, so thought I would share that with you!

As it is, my LO is head down but just slightly off target, so aiming to go into my cervix shoulder first like a rugby player into a scrum! Sounds pleasant!
I had my last growth scan this morning and the baby is six pounds already, with four weeks left to go! Really exciting and scary all at once. I just can't wait to see him or her, this last bit is draaaaaagging!

It looks like you might beat me to it then HobNob - becasue of my GD they will induce me at term plus seven, but if you get a CS then you will be a few weeks before me. I am oddly jealous!

Worrisome so glad that your understand my fears, sounds like we're going through the same emotions. I've lost count of the number of people who've told me in the last few days that she could still move, I think its very unlikely tbh as she's been this way since we saw she was breech at the 20 wk scan, she was this way when we had our 4D scan too. She seems to like sticking her head between my ribs!

pixiestix its not that odd sounding at all, a friend who trained as a midwife has told me about the same thing, I'm going to give it a go. So far I've tried crawling on my hands and knees, putting something cold on the top of my bump where I know her head is and I've tried sticking my legs up against a wall at an angle to make gravity bring the weight of the baby down to hit my fundus and maybe move her. But sadly none of it has worked! Trust me, I'd rather you have your baby first!

evening everyone... just posting a quick update (will do proper update soon, promise)

just to let you all now that baby Evie arrived at 4am on Tuesday 24th August. 7lb 8oz.

we're both doing ok, came home from hospiatal last night, even managed to get out for a little walk today.... nearly time for 12 o'clock feed.... bye for now.

CONGRATULATIONS sazzie Another pre-EDD arrival.....might have to rethink my assumption that I will definitely go overdue!!

Hope everything went well with the birth.....make sure you come back and tell us all the details

Hobnob nice to see you back here. Hope your LO decides to turn head down - have you looked at the spinning babies website - I think there's lots of methods on there for encouraging correct positioning.

I know quite a few people who've had C-secs recently and they've all gone on to successfully BF, so a CS doesn't necessarily cause problems.

worrisome hope LO is trying to turn for you. Can you feel which way up he is yourself? I can feel a rock hard lump at the top of my bump if I sit in the right position and poke hard enough, which I'm pretty certain is LO's head. I think he keeps alternating between breech and transverse cos I mostly feel kicks at the bottom of my bump, then after lots of squirming about in there they'll be towards the side for a day or so before they go back to the bottom.

I'm only 28 weeks so hopefully he'll get himself head down in the next few weeks

ARRIVALS:

Fulhamgirl - EDD 30th May - DOB 9th Apr - Girl - Lily Ann - 4lb
Trying4Baby1 - EDD 25th Apr - DOB 6th May - Girl - Emily - 10lb 2.5oz
Pepperonipizza -EDD 24th May - DOB 28th May -Boy
CurlyCasper - EDD 21st July - DOB 24th June - Girl
Spirael - EDD 25th Jul - DOB 7th July - Girl - Miranda Jane - 8lb 3oz
DesperateHousewife21 - EDD 18th July - DOB 9th July - Boy - Dylan James
Sazziej - EDD 1st Sep- DOB 24th Aug - Girl - Evie - 7lb 8oz

CURRENT GRADUATES:

Ozziegirly - BFP 16th Dec - EDD 24th Aug - Boy
NovemberAli - BFP 24th Dec - EDD 2nd Sep - Surprise
WhiteRoses - BFP 11th Jan - EDD 15th Sep - Boy
Hobnob - BFP 17th Jan - EDD 26th Sep - Girl
Pixiestix - BFP 18th Jan - EDD 24th Sep - Surprise
Addie81 - BFP 28th Jan - EDD 7th Oct - Girl
Chancewouldbeafinething - BFP 1st Feb - EDD 10/10/10 - Boy
WorrisomeHeart - BFP 29th Jan - EDD 12th Oct - Boy - Lochlann
Hermya321 - BFP 12th Feb - EDD 24th Oct - Boy
Fudgecat - BFP 19th Feb ? EDD 28th Oct
Pidgin - BFP 27th Feb - EDD?
YorkshireTeaDrinker - BFP 1st Mar - EDD 6th Nov
Bunnygirl80 - BFP 12th Mar - EDD 19th Nov-Boy
Mumnerves - BFP 1st Apr - EDD 8th Dec
Luckyseven - BFP 8th Apr - EDD 17th Dec
Capricorn76 - BFP 12th Apr - EDD 1st Jan 2011
Homebound - BFP 30th Apr - EDD 8th Jan
Seablue - BFP? - EDD 10th Jan
Oneof8 - BFP 18th May - EDD 17th Jan
Aly323 - BFP? - EDD 31st Jan
Muser - BFP 22nd June - EDD 27 Feb
Superpenguin - BFP 1st July - EDD 7th March
Haloflo - BFP 22 July - EDD 23 March
SaorAlba - BFP 7 Aug - EDD 4th April
MrsWajs - BFP 13 Aug? - EDD 10th April

FUTURE GRADUATES:
See list on this thread

Yayyyyy congrats sassie fab news, and such a lovely name. Hope you're having a wonderful babymoon with your lovely LO!

hobnob have you tried using a birthing ball? I've found that really good (for my back as well) and I THINK he's turned - hoorah!!! Lots of sharp digs at the top of the bump and pressure at the bottom, so I think he's there. Funny though, I'd just got into the c-sec mindset (and was quite liking the idea of knowing exactly when he'd arrive!) and now I have to switch back to my original birth plan! Am going to pack my bag this weekend as am slightly freaked by the fact that he could be here in 3.5 weeks if he comes at 37....

pixie wow, 6 pounds already! Lets hope your LO gets their head in the right bit! So exciting!

bunny defintley lots of time for him to turn - get bouncing on a birth ball too just in case!!

Am using up my last day of annual leave today as our pram is being delivered. Lovely to have a day to do baby stuff! Hope you all have fab weekends

Meant to say - no word from ozzie yet? Hope all is well and she's too busy cuddling her lovely baby!

Sazzie Congratulations on the arrival of little Evie!!!!

Bunny Have you looked at the Spinning Babies website, that seems to be banded around when breech babies are mentioned.

Worrisome Brilliant news, lets hope your LO stays head down.

On BBC breakfast this morning, they had a guy who could play the piano (really well) with his feet. I was quite impressed.

On the baby front, LO seems to have recovered himself and he has spent the past two days bouncing around like a mad thing. I was told by my midwife that he is head down at the moment which is good. I'm trying not to slouch either at the moment so as to encourage him to put his back to the front of my tummy. I think I may have to start scrubbing some floors on my hands and knees.

Other than that, we're just buying our last bits and bobs for baby and we'll be all set. All he has to do now is turn up. It's a bit like waiting for a surprise party to start isn't it, only you're sat in the dark and you have no idea when the guest of honour is going to show their face.

hermya love your surprise party thought - thats exactly how it feels!

Hi everyone, just wanted to pop my head in and give you some news. To cut a long story short been for lots of tests and basically we could SWI forever and still not get BFP, DP is infertile without intervention.

Looks like we will be going down IVF route, and even that may not be sucessful. We have to wait till next appointment (3 months) to redo SA to see if any improvement from changes to lifestyle etc. But then we will need to referred on so it will take a while and right now my head is not in a place to deal with it anyway. Just feel like my whole life has been altered in a couple of weeks and just continually want to crawl into bed and just cry then I get angry and think why us - have we not been through enough!

If you dont read the other thread DP has taken this really hard and didnt propose when he planned and has talked about leaving me as he knows how much having a LO means to me - I have told him he is being stupid and I love him and dont want anyone else but its still hard.

I will check up on you all but at moment cant see me posting for a while, if again. So massive good luck to all of you. There are a few of you who all now have a special place in my heart (you all know who you are) and I cant wait to read about the births of all your LO's.

xxx

Hi all!

Hope everyone is looking forwards to the bank holiday weekend?

Had the scan this week, and relieved to be told all appears well!

LO is using my bladder as a pillow (apparently this is common!) and falls within all the normal ranges for measurements.

It was just amazing, LO started off nice and relaxed - arms by side - for heart and brain, but when the nurse went to look at the face the little monkey had its hands up!!

LO alternated between clenched fists and waving the hands in front of its mouth and nose! The nurse decided to come back for that part of the checks, so moved on the do the bones etc - so LO started wiggling around!

Did settle down so the nurse could finish - but was like it was playing peek-a-boo!

We didn't find out the sex - tiny part of me was hoping the scan "accidentally" found out, but at the same time glad we are getting the surprise!

Little bit of a me me me post, but still excitable!!

Congrats to Sassie, not actually "met" but lovely news!

Hope all is well for Ozzie - how exciting!!

Crap time for X-posts - takes me ages to write and post between calls

Zippy, so sorry. It must be a massive shock.
Can understand what your partner and you are feeling, as have friends in a similar boat.

They are currently waiting for the IVF route. It was a totally shit time when they first found out, but things did get better/easier (sorry not sure of right word) and they moved forwards together as a couple.
Know this isn't going to make you feel any stronger now, but at least you know people can work through it
xx

zippys so sorry to hear you've had bad news.

I hope that you and your DP get all the support you need in RL, and that you can work through this together. It must have come as such a shock to find that there is a problem that has stopped you from getting your BFP. Hopefully now it has been diagnosed you'll be able to have successful treatment and you'll get your much wanted LO soon.