Due March 2010 - "Hello Baby... Goodbye Pelvic Floor"

[Arcadie]

Welcome to the March Preggos. Here's hoping we see nearly 1000 posts before anyone pops!

sorry girls. random rant coming up.
just talked to a friend (well our DHs grew up together)to make arrangements for our ds's bday on fri. her son same age.

she has recently had dc2 - now approx 4 months and dream child. her ds1 was (and still is) a 'difficult' child. she was kind enough to say to me that she hopes we get a real 'b@stard' this time, as our ds was a relatively easy baby. is that not totally insensitive ?

although our ds has been quite a good child/baby, he has certainly had his moments, as all children/babies do, and to wish that someone has a difficult child just seems really unkind. am i being oversensitive ?

apols for double post..

I think you are being oversensitive slackblad TBH. I don't think anyone would say it and actually mean it. My friend said something a bit similar the other day and I just smiled and said 'oh no I've ordered another good one'.
Sometimes you just have to let it wash over you - it's just not worth getting het up over.

prob right smac just that she had a habit coming out with gems like that!

awh slackblad if she is known for coming out with wee gems like that then it's even more reason just to let it wash over you. I think we are all a bit oversensitive at the moment with all the mad hormones coursing through our bodies.

Hey everyone, not posted since the start. how is everyone?

74 at what your friend said, I would have the same reaction as you although I agree its best not to let these things get to you. Doesn't seem like the sort of thing a true friend would say x

Oh my goodness, ladies, are you all on mat leave with your house keepers doing the mundane things in life and your nannies minding any troublesome preexisting LOs?? I cannot believe how much this thread has moved since yesterday! Brilliant, but slightly overwhelming; I will simply post random word-association-type things, me thinks ....

So: welcome to all newcomers and returners! Nice to see you all .

Afribaby, say hello to Germany for me - hope it won't be too cold (-5C in Mainz this morning according to my mum - pack some Longjohns ). Hope you and bump have a very good and uneventful trip.

Re paternitiy leave: I would agree, the week after delivery is probably when things start getting tougher and any helping hand will be v welcome. My DH keeps trying to persuade me to agree to an elCS so he could plan his leave better - soooooo NOT going to happen. As I have bored you with before am having another Brilliant VBAC

Re middle child: I really worry about this and I have tried v much to make a fuss of DS2 since DS3 came along. He has the misfortune of having a very talented older brother and a v cute demanding younger one. I do feel v sorry for him sometimes as I feel that he compares himself to the others .
So by having a 4th am I simply creating 2 middle children?? Gah, you cannot win!

Mummyelk, I am v at the conversations you have with your DD as my DS3 gabs all day long but still entirely in Alienese. I know he is fine, I am not worried, just impatient...
He continues to be v mummy-centred (screamed his head off as Daddy was bringing him to bed tonight - which he does every other night, so not an exception or anything), but I have not noticed any changes in his behaviour. And tonight he brought me my slippers when we came in, awwww . Dog, who needs one??

slackbladder, I had a complete b@st@rd of a firstborn (well, screamed for the first year of his life) and I said myself to all and sundry I would hope not to have another one the same... and didn't. I think take you friend's remark with a pinch of salt; it was very likely intended to be a lighthearted/gallows humour type remark. I can be v guilty of that kind of foot-in-mouth moment .

Re parents/PIL visiting (see, I told you my post would be random): well, my parents live abroad, so no danger of them partycrashing in the midst of transition , thank goodness for that. They have always come to stay for a week or so a few days after the respective births which was fine. DH is not that close to his mother. She came to hospital for a short visit the day/day after delivery and stayed just long enough to hand over a bunch of flowers and critique admire the baby.
I think a controlled trickle of visitors in hospital is not too bad (BTW the ward MWs will be happy to be your Rottweilers and keep people away with any number of medical excuses if you ask them to ) and then restrict visiting for the first few weeks at home. I love the idea of a babymoon; all you firsttimers, go to bed with your gorgeous newborn and just smell its head and cuddle all day long Not likely to happen in the PD household...

Right I am off to catch my breath after all this typing.

Evening

Shroomer I have the same issues/concerns as 74slackbladder* Both sets of parents live 15 mins away. I have made my DH promise that he WILL NOT ring and tell them I am in labour for fear that MIL will appear at the hospital and wait it out. I feel we have to treat both sets of parents the same. Realistically whatever is the next visiting slot after birth both sets of parents will appear.I guess I can understand their excitement and at least visiting time restricts their stay and all can't be there together so DH will have to plan that one- give them each a half hour timeslot!! I would love to be out in under 24 hours so it's not impossible that they might have to wait til I'm home but again we are thinking seriously of having visiting hours at home too. Think it will be easier to know that no one is welcome before lunch in case of crap sleep and also due to DH evening working which means he will be still in bed on the mornings sometimes. All that said my twin lives 200 yards away so she will probably beat them all to the hospital - she is VVVVV excited!! My older sis lives in london and has 3 plane trips booked to come up between 22 Feb and beginning of April despite baby not being due until 6th Mar !!!

meita Congratulations on your fab news. So pleased for you.

xx

Evening ladies

So good to see so many returners & new faces - well done Pixie with your organisation and great shout-out in Pregnancy!

Meita so happy to hear your news. Do indeed remember you and am delighted that your 12 week scan went well and you're due in August. Things get so much better in the 2nd trimester, so I hope you have a happy and healthy pregnancy

Slack am also at your friend's comment, but reckon others are right that it's meant in a lighthearted way.

Rindercella so lovely to hear of your DSS - sounds like what every new mum needs

Afribaby happy flying! May you have a lovely and uneventful journey back to Germany

Interesting to hear about when people will have visitors - my PIL are over from the states for the last week in March, so we could have anything from a 1 week old to a 3 week old. A friend who lives around the corner has offered her flat for them to stay in as she'll be away for work, so there's a plan B if Plan a (them staying our tiny flat) doesn't work. My mother will come over from Ireland pretty soon after the birth (and hopefully my younger sister too), but will stay in a hotel. Otherwise it'll mainly be friends (none of whom have kids) so I expect we'll be able to be strict with them if we want/need to

SCHROOMER I unfortunately have never had this problem and would really love to be fending my parents off really those ofyou who are .however parents have always known early in pregnancy when bump is due but always arrange to be away for 2weeks either side of its birth date and have not managed to see any of the children in there first 6 weeks. would really love it if they wanted to visit but its just not going to happen. this time they knew back in july timings and have now just announced that they have an unbreakable appointment and will visit from mid february to 4th march as im always late im feeling very compounded by the fact that when my siblings have had there children everything is cancelled as to quote darling mother "its so important to be around for the birth " . this time feel very tempted not even to phone when lo puts in an appearance childish i know but feeling really upset by it all at the moment .
last time we even arranged a naming day around the time they would be visiting and gave them 4 months warning only for them to arrive and say sorry we can only stay 15 minutes as weve arranged to visit other friends . apologies for the rant but 3 years on it still hurts as much .
meita delighted to hear your good news she/ he will be very very precious good luck

74- I had a very similar thing happen. DD has always been a good sleeper and when I saw them a couple of months after she was born they said they hoped I had a devil next time. It really upset me at the time and still does but I suspect it's all jealousy hopefully.

Re telling people: I like being induced early ecause I continue to tell everyone i am due in the distant future to avoid "any news yet" texts. last time my mother arrived for a month the day I went into hospital, kept me company through inductiuon and though she was not at the birth arrived literally minutes after DD. She'll be looking after DD this time and has taken unpaid leave to help me out with the last few weeks as I can't cope with SPD+toddler anymore, so will be around. I suspect this time she'll be more useful than last though (and hopefully not as maddening....) PILs turned up as they were trying to help me into bed and saw me+catheter in statwe of undress. I was NOT happy about that but they never left and kept bothering me with questions when all I really wanted to do was sleep. This time round they are in Australia.

I've told friends I'll have to wait and see how I feel about visitors, but I've been stuck in the house for so long I crave company so will proably overdo it.

DH can take a month paternity as last time. Sadly my mother will be here so there'll be no point in them both being here at the same time all the time so he'll work from home a bit and take a few days here and there then we'll all go away to the coast for Easter together. In theory (might be moving then too so will need him to do it all help move then)

Waves and congrats to meita.

Waves to afribaby and other lurkers and returnees

Waves to regulars who keep us in check

Waves to....OK arm falling off. just had the best baby shower ever. Could live in the bathtub and survive on chocolate for about the next three months now......

Evening ladies, sorry I have fallen waaaaay behind, again! Thankyou for taking mercy on me and keeping on the list

It's 3 weeks to my due date on sat where has the time gone?! It's getting so close for us all now. This is where the thread will get reeeeally interesting and exciting

I will try my best to post more now. Am crazily nesting and decorating at the moment!

Thank you everyone for letting me know what you are going re parents/in laws visiting. Some very different situations there. I think I'll just have to play it by ear. May invite them to visit in the hospital.

p.s. Scooby - if you fancy meeting up for coffee in Newc someday before the big event, give me a shout - send a CAM message to me. I'm going stir crazy sat in the house all day. Was stuck in yesterday because it was slippy outside. And stuck in other days when waiting in for delivery vans or due to general knackeredness

Not heard from Dove yet but upon re-reading the email it says contact will be made by the end of Friday so it appears my sausage fingers are having an effect on how I understand the written word.

Speaking of sausage fingers, I look at them and I know they don't look too bad to someone who doesn't know my 'usual' fingers (ditto my puffy trotters feet). But I tried to put on my old wedding ring for an indication that I'm not imagining it and lo, I cannot get it further than a third down my finger (so about half way to my knuckle).

Feel both for 'being right'; I'm obviously not 'making it up' or 'going mad' but, oh my goodness, also as I kinda wish I was. Imaginary sausauge fingers probably don't hurt/worry me as much as real ones.

Also, up until last week I had put on 10kg total. I weighed myself yesterday and another 2.5kg has gone on in a WEEK?! That's got to be fluid, because I'm hardly eating for one let alone two.

La, la, la, it's all about me again. So sorry.

Morning! Manda/Sausagewoman Fret not - you'll get your tiny elfin frame back within 2 minutes of the placenta being delivered. You look fantastic in your FB photos so don't worry.

Dalrymps Hi! Nice to see you on here again!

Everyone Else like a small child and runs off to play in the York snow.

Morning all and welcome back to those who heard Pixie's call to action!

Manda I have sausage fingers (and ankles and toes) too now. Again they don't look too bad if you didn't know what I looked like before but can't get my rings on either. I've stopped weighing myself - too depressing! Good luck with Dove - that would be amazing.

Shroomer we've told my parents and PILs that we'll play it by ear. For us it really depends on what sort of birth we end up having, how I feel etc.

PandP what a nightmare with your PILs - how clever of you to schedule this for when they are on the other side of the world. Sure your Mum will be more use this time round.

Mum ofsevenplus four so sorry to hear about your parents - at least you've got a lovely brood of your own now.

Pacific how sweet your LO bringing you your slippers - now you just need to train him to bring the milk in...

Had our last ante-natal class last night - 3 out of the group of 8 had their babies already (early) and all with fast labours. As we're all fast timers I guess it's a bit unusual, but I confess to hoping ours shows up sooner rather than later (as long as she's 'done'). One who had her baby 2 weeks ago (at 37 weeks) brought him in to talk through their experiences. Tried to listen but as DH and I were sat next to them we mainly gazed in wonder at the baby, who was the sweetest little thing I've ever seen. I want one! (oh yes, hang on a minute, that's what this is all about)

Everyone was amazed at how rubbish the partners were on One Born Every Minute and we actually talked about what our DH's should do differently. It was a good teaching tool.

Has anyone got sore wrists and finger joints? I'm guessing this is preg induced carpel tunnel. What a pain! What with baby like a melon between legs, shooting pains down thighs, UTI, poss GDD, sausage limbs and insomnia I'm feeling a bit fed up. Grrrrr.

Hope you are all feeling ok. Keep repeating, not long now, not long now (unless you are in denial in which case 'it's ages away, it's ages away).

In response to the thread on the pregnancy board...

Tigress is still around. I am 37 weeks and feeling pretty good. I have 2 days left of work and looking forward to the little tiger cub arrival.

Sorry I have not been updating you all on this thread, it didn't seem relevant a lot of the time as this is my first and there was always a lot of talk of older children which didn't appeal to me.

One of the things I didn't anticipate about this late stage is just how rubbish you feel after even short bursts of physical energy. I only have to walk 5 minutes to the shops and I need a sit down, most disconcerting.

Anyway, hope all are well and ready to pop soon... I haven't read back far in the thread so don't know who has.

Bring it on!

If this baby's a boy, I liked the name Arthur - but I've just seen a weird cartoon on the telly with some sort of aardvark in it with glasses on. The Arthur in that looks a bit geeky. Anyone seen the kids prog Arthur? If I call my child Arthur am I setting him up to be bullied later?!

Hallo ladies

Gosh, I disappear for a few days (due to mad shopping for sterilisers, changing mats and nappy bins - exciting stuff, as agreed by my poor brother who had to help carry everything due to DH being at work) and the thread really takes off!

Good to see The List again - still in Denial over here despite watching One Born Every Minute and suspecting BabyHook may have dropped as can inexplicably breathe again.

Shroomer Arthur to me means King Arthur (and currently looks like the big blond lad on BBC Merlin) but I do think I recall the aardvark!

I wonder if my ante-natal class today will go ahead? Once again have woken up to winter wonderland outside window and new baby grobag thermometer indicating icy room...

Hi Tigress - you make me feel bad now, I know I have mentioned my DD every now and again but surely it hasn't been THAT much talk about older kids? Recently it has been mostly about pg symptoms, buying stuff, etc... Yes I feel tired too after just walking up the stairs.

Try Ctrl Z which is a windows command to "undo".

One more bloody week and I can relax!

Trying to work whilst having horid insomnia is killing me.

I might even pack my hospital bag soon m(if I can pull my head out of the sand)

Arthur is a lovely name.