The wagon rolls onto to York for brownies at Betty's...10 boys & 7 girls and still more to come!!!

[GYo]

new thread!!!!!!!

Don't feel bad LB, you're doing what's right for your DS, a little bit of a struggle with him is worth it for the benefits of getting the meds in and avoiding more procedures

STT, I have the same problem with DH sometimes, but now I don't wait for him to tidy his stuff up as it will never happen, I just put it in a big pile in the office where he has to deal with it himself. If he gets grumpy that I've moved his stuff then I reply "if you'd done it yourself then I wouldn't have to" and don't engage in an arguement about it!

Sorky I know what you mean about shouting at the telly, it's like the supernanny ones, most of the time it's because they have TVs in their bedrooms, don't go to sleep, get over tired and have tantrums and get no consequneces for their actions. Every time it's the same and I get so cross that I can't watch them anymore!

DH popped in to get DD1 for preschool earlier and handed me a MASSIVE slab of ginger cake, I don't know where it's come from, but yummmmmmy!!

Happy birthday GYo, and enjoy your shopping trip Kayz!

GYo- happy birthday!! Hope its a good one!! Your first as a mummy- thats very special for you i'm sure!!

Hello everyone else- i was scared out of my own bed at 4am this morning by a big-bad-ass spider on our ceiling!! It was enormous!! and i couldn't poke it down as it was right above DH's head... so i took me and DD2 downstairs and we slept on the sofa!! she actually slept better on the sofa with me than she normally would in the night... she was very good and went from 9pm till 2ish though but was up lots between then and 4am... but it was better sleep-wise than it has been the last couple of weeks!!

DS is on a nursery trip so i dont need to collect him till 3.15pm... taking the DD's to see my sisters... just popped on to check my ebaying!! couldn't not pop in!!

LOL Sorky - I recorded that program but I'll either delete it and save myself the frustration of watching or at least make sure I'm in by myself .

Diege - hope you have a lovely time seeing your friends twins. Your DH sounds very well trained - any top tips?

GYO- HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Hope you have something nice planned.

STT - sounds like your DH needs a swift kick in the rear! I have the opposite problem with mine in that he is very very tidy and organised whereas I am a bit more 'relaxed' about housework. He def does his share but used to nag at me constantly if things weren't done to his standards. It took quite a bit of arguing discussion to reach a compromise e.g. dishes are done straight after a meal (by whoever didn't cook) but I can leave them on the draining board to dry rather than putting them away immediately. He had to understand that it is our house so we both have to be happy. Some of it sounds quite petty but it was worth it in the long run. Good luck!

LB - struggling with DS over meds sounds really tough but he seems to be getting the benefits so please don't feel bad. How are you feeling? Have you been able to get any more sleep/rest?

Moosy - Mmmmm, I just fancy some ginger cake now.

Ses - glad yesterday went well and I hope it makes feeding easier on both of you.

Kayz - happy shopping!

Morning Glask - have a lovely day at your sisters.

Morning!

Happy birthday GYo

Diege - I agree with IDOB, you're DH does sound well trained!

Sorky - I saw a trailer for that programme but no more - phew!

Glask - have a good day!

Moos - yay for ginger cake!

STT - I think it's been said, but your DH needs to do his bit...

Kay - enjoy your trip into town and good luck with hutch shopping!

No British Gas here today as they managed to get boiler works finished yesterday. Mum's going to come over and we're going to go unto town so I can do a bit of shopping. In the next 10 days I have the following birthdays:
brother, nephew, niece, FIL and SIL as well as Fathers Day!

wow- looked at other premmy bundles yesterday before i listed mine, none were as big as mine... i was selling a 140pc (though more now as i've found another bag full that i'm throwing in with it) and decided that i'd put a £30 buy-it-now on it... put it on a 10day listing as i didn't expect it to sell fast... didn't even check till just now, and it sold 20mins later and i'd had 2 questions in that time too before the person bought it!! thats so fast i can't believe it!!

I'm happy her tiny things are going to someone who obviously wants them!!

oh i should have said that none of the other bundles on ebay were selling for much more than about £5-10... if it'd been on still by 5 days into the auction i'd have reduced the price to £20 or so...

Wow, that's great Glask. They've sold quickly and going to a good home

Wow - I've been out grumped! Lol Sorky at your outrages! I always watch these parenting programs and think its bloody obvious what they're doing wrong, but with a very stubborn DS, buggering about all the time and blatantly not listening to anything I try to tell him with sleep issues well and truly embedded - I'm sure that you'd all say the same about me. He's only the way he is because of the way I look after him - I just don't know how to change it without going 'against' some of my basic principals - if I did, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. It must be a lot easier from the outside of a relationship that from within to sort things out.

Can you tell I'm fed up with pg insomnia and a 2.5 yr old DS sleeping horizontally between me and DH (we have a big bed). And a DS that won't go to sleep before 8.15. And a DH that doesn't tidy up.

Christ I'm so ungrateful.

He's a lovely little boy, I really think he needs to be in a bigger bed. He only came into ours last night because after falling out of bed (again) and trying to sleep on the floor, he heard his mummy shouting at his Daddy and wanted to come into bed with us .

And DH is wonderful at everything, except cleaning and tidying. He does cook, cleans up all dog mess (inside and out - she's getting old!), does his own washing, cooks occasionally, does all the gardening and DIY to a fab standard, deals with sweetcorn nappies that make me want to heave, rubs my back whilst I vomit while sitting on the loo with the runs and doesn't bat an eyelid...(last week on holiday!).

So I think I'm being a bit unfair.

Sorry, another selfish post. Will try harder.

Happy Birthday GYO Sorry I didn't realise! Hope you have a lovely day

Glask, glad you and DD got better sleep, were you perhaps sleeping in a more upright position? DS would only sleep (for about the first three weeks) on my chest if I was sitting up in bed - so I used to build myself a nest in my spare double room if he hadn't settled by midnight so DH could sleep. He used to wiggle up and snuggle under my chin.

Unfortunately, when he's poorly, he still tries to do it, and at 30 months he's a bit big to snuggle under my chin!!

Diege - I've always quietly thought how wonderful your DH sounds - I didn't realised you'd trained him, just thought I'd been unlucky!

happy bday gyo have a great ine

i have that sleep prog recorded - i agree that it is usually down to not having a night time routine i always have made sure that both dds have a structured royutine r both great sleepers.
anyone watch mary queen of charity shops? very interesting
kay - enjoy shopping

have a quiet day today dd1 @ nursery

feel so bad for bracken cant take her to baby groups till oct when dd1 is @ school full time.
only goes in car to nursery and back

How come you can't go to groups Tink, does dd1 not go to Nursery everyday? Can you not go swimming or toddlers or something whilst she's there?

STT it's always easier to see the problems from outside
We AP as well and sometimes I do think my MIL might be annoyingly right when she's states the good ol' rod-for-back gem
We only just got Ds2 to sleep through the night at 2yo then had the baby. and I'm STILL trying to wean the little so and so off his milk!
I'm just grumpy, ignore me

Oh and whilst I'm on the subject of ignoring, I'm not ignoring anyone, I'm just shit at keeping up!
By the time I get to the top of the page I've forgotten what I've read, so if it isn't in the posts which fill the screen when I open the thread then generally I don't read it
I could apologise, but we all know it's not going to make me any better hehe x

I've sorted the kids and cleaned downstairs minus the floors. Think that's good going really.

Ooh I've remembered something.
Glask Yack for spider, I'm not a fan of them myself. Yay for bundle, how fabulous! Sounds like someone got a bargain

Hello all:

STT - poor you It does sound like your DH is a good egg, just slightly misguided at the moment. If it's anything like DH and I, we have cyclical struggles and then everything is fine for a while. Mine cooks and tidies up really well - but somehow forgot how to do laundry or change the sheets on the bed EVER! I KNOW he can do it, I've SEEN him when we were dating...Actually I don't mind, as I don't want him washing my clothes really anyway. Perhaps you can praise all that he does but explain to him how difficult it is with DS and being PG and that you can really use some help with XYZ - I find that if I ask for help with specific chores/tasks, it's more effective than a general whinge, after which he takes offense. Good luck!

Diege - maybe you should write a husband training book!

Kay - have fun looking at rabbit hutches!

Sorky - LOL! I always find the Supernanny/Little Angels programmes really interesting - it's amazing how well LO's respond to positive routines and praise and makes you wonder why anyone can't see what the problems are!

Ses - so glad the procedure seems to have taken effect already! Best of luck for a good weigh-in on Friday!

Happy Birthday GYO!

Moos - yumm, that cake sounds good! And kudos DH for brining it to you for no reason!

LB - I agree with Moos - may be uncomfortable for DS now, but better than a tube down his throat later on. Poor little chap, hope he feels better soon!

Can't ignore you Sorky, no matter how grumpy! But I do seek permission to grump with you

A couple of people have made comments in the last couple of days about how we 'do welcome DS into your bed, so what do you expect' which makes me furious and I've promptly burst into tears, which I think may make them think that a) I'm pregnant & hormonal or b) they're right.

I grew up with very little physical affection (and tbh, not much emotional either) and I have made an active and conscious decision to make sure that if my beautiful little man (DS!) ever wants a cuddle or a snuggle or whatever, he can have one. And the majority of the time, that works brill for us, we certainly have a very close bond and I'm frequently told what a lovely, chilled little boy he is (they don't see his tantrums, they're reserved just for me ). I just don't see why people have to be waiting for me to mention that what I'm doing might not be great 100% of the time so that they can get there (inexperienced! pennies worth in!).

At the moment I'm really struggling with working out whether or not I should be 'disciplining him', or if its my fault he's being naughty, and if I should be, then how (time out v just talking)... god, so many different ways of doing it, and always someone to say 'its great, do it' and someone else say 'god no, think of the emotional long term damage'...

The early days were tough, learning how to deal with a new baby, then you kind of relax into it and just as you think you've got the hang of it, he grows into a new 'phase' and I'm lost all over again! At least by DC2 I should be a little more settled....

Sorry everyone.

On a plus point, I've cleaned the bathroom (including the glass shelf which has been bugging me for ages), dusted our bedroom (the surfaces that I can get to!, done the washing up, unloaded and reloaded the dishwasher, washing machine and tumble dryer, taken delivery of the tesco's shop, and put the oven on for a 'self-clean'.

Now I'm having another break.

GYo - what plans have you got for today?

LB - Sounds like you've got the meds going in well, sorry it feels bad doing it but far better than the alternative!

Ses - glad you got the tongue-tie sorted, hope it makes a big difference and huge congrats for getting through a whole four weeks of BF with tongue-tie!

Moos, Diege and any others - Do you wanna send your DH over here so they can take mine out and tell him the way of the world?!

LBOT - Think you've summed up DH really well actually, good egg, but goes astray occasionally. I think you're spot on about telling him precisely what it is I want him to help me with - but perhaps I need to work that out first too!

STT you could apply everything in that post to us too and I'm onto number 4!

Thing is every baby is different aren't they, some sleep through and some need to sleep with us. We've had both types.
I've discovered that there is no point in forcing a child to sleep on their own if it's not what they need. I've discovered the miserable route too

Dd1 was much better in a GF routine, Ds1 hated it, nor did he sleep well with us, but slept like a log in his own bed.
Even now if he's ill he'll come in our room, but once he's sorted he'll go back to his own bed.
Ds2 different kettle of fish altogether he only slept in his own bed when Dd2 came along. He didn't want to sleep next to her, so slept in his own bed (wit Dh as well for the first few nights)
Dd2 following a similar AP route atm. People no doubt think we're nuts. To us it's just the way things work in our house

On the Dh front, mine alternates between thoroughly useless and saintly, there doesn't seem to be any middle-ground or rhyme/reason to which state he's in.
I make the most of when he's good. If I ask him to help he will. After 18 years together I've given up trying to change him as much

The thing I find quite frustrating is just as you think you have this malarkey sorted out, like you've found, they go through a different phase and you're starting from scratch again.

dd1 only goes to nursery 2 mornings and one full day.
wouldnt have time to go to a group when she is just there mornings
have tried to look into groups on wed no luck booked up

really want a nintendo wii and wii fit too much money

STT - thanks! Think I just thought the pain - and lashings of Lansinoh - was what everyone went through especially as it did improve a bit.
As for other people making comments, the nurse at the hospital last week told me I was making a rod for my own back co-sleeping and using sling instead of Moses basket. I wanted to scream at her "This is what he needs and is is only 4 weeks old ffs!!!"
stupidly I restrained myself!!

Hey STT - I am probably just being one of those irritating inexperienced people adding their penny's worth but we have friends who have co-slept and friends who were very sure they wanted DC in their own beds. It's no surprise that the ones who co-slept still have DC in their bed on a regular basis even though he is 2.5 now - I suppose you could say they have 'made a rod for their own back' but they just see that as a part of parenting. Our friends who didn't co-sleep have problems when they stay over somewhere as their DS doesn't like to sleep anywhere except in his own bed in his own room. To me its just like everything else in life - every decision has a good side and a bad side and you just have to decide what works for you. If you are happy for DS to want to come into your bed (or willing to put up with it because he is happy) why is that a bad thing? He sounds like a lovely secure little boy which is surely what we all want for our DCs?

Sorry if that is a bit of a lecture I just hate it when people feel the need to nitpick at other peoples choices just to make themselves feel better about their own decisions.

could you not take Dd2 swimming Jules?

I know groups often run at odd times making it difficult to get back foe the pick-up, but you could go swimming with her anytime
I have wii-fit envy too

How's the aerobics classes going?

Well I don't see anything wrong in a 2.5yo still co-sleeping because I still view a toddler as a baby, but that's just me.
But I do have rather unconventional views of parenting it would appear

How's the feeding going today Ses, any improvement?

I'm out for tea with the girls again tonight, I'm dead excited!

Hey Sorky, I agree but it's amazing how many people have sneered at my friend for still having my godson in their bed and brag about how their DCs never sleep with them. It makes me really as my friend is a bit of a worrier and some of these people make her doubt herself as a mum even though my godson is a happy healthy lovely little boy.

PS Enjoy your night out tonight. I'm off to yoga this evening and really looking forward to it.

Ah! that is sad IDOB.
Thing is they do eventually go into their own beds. I don't know of any 4/5yo that still co-sleep other than if they're ill etc. I suppose as long as both parties are happy with it then it's not a problem.
I have friends who all co-sleep together, her & husband and 2 boys (6 & 5) it's only just becoming a problem as they haven't had sex in 2 years!!!

HONK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!