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Anyone due July 2009? Part 2

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lucasnorth · 12/12/2008 17:05

Sorry, original title.

Anyway, hello everyone, I'm due 6th July (although no scan yet, so date will probably move). Excited but knackered and queasy so far, although having read (some!) of the last thread I've got off pretty easily so far.

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Lyrebird · 17/01/2009 18:46

Hi everyone, can I join? I'm 37 and after 5 years, finally we are pregnant - this is our first. We're due 24 July. We've had our scan and all looks well so I'm finally allowing myself to get excited about it!

Poppet45 · 17/01/2009 18:49

Awww congrats Lyrebird that's great! It's my scan on Thursday and am sooo excited.

Beccabump · 17/01/2009 18:57

belgrano yay I am so happy for your good news!! I was so worried for you but can't imagine what the wait must have been like!

Welcome to the other new ladies too!!

Question: has anyone else here turned down the screening tests? Hubby and I both discussed the tests at the beginning of the pregnancy and both agreed that whatever the outcome we would always continue with the pg (not even CVS) and so at my scan when I was offered the tests I turned them down.
I have had 2 very different responses to this. A majority of people who know I am pg have been fine with our decision and have supported how we feel. However I have had one or two people (who also are aware I am pg) saying some pretty off things - what if the baby would only live a while after it was born...what if it had a disability...I try to explain that my hubby and I (and DD!) would love any child regardless of any problem and if we did have limited time with our baby then we would make it the happiest and most loving time possible.
What I don't understand is why these people have assumed that we have somehow made a 'bad' choice for our DC?

I can completely understand that people have very different views on CVC, testing, termination etc. But I think if it is someone else's child you are discussing people should respect the parents to have made an informed and rational decision.

Sorry if it sounds like a rant, I am v v v hormonal at the moment and it is really playing on my mind.

On another grrrr note I had my 1st person tell me I was effectively stupid to want a home birth as 'you never know what will happen'. Now feeling selfish for wanting my nice, calm (haha), water-labour guaranteed home birth.

So, all in all, hormonal, spotty, greasy, not anywhere near blooming and really fed-up. On the plus side I am growing a lovely baby

xxx

Phoenix · 17/01/2009 19:14

Welcome and congrats Lyrebird, i've added you to the list.

I was also really bored last night and had a read through the old thread and all this one and found another set of twins so that's 5 on here

I also noticed a few people that asked to join but didn't make it onto a list and never came on again

25th June - Christiana - DD nearly 3
28th June - Woollyjo - DD 2, 2mcs
29th June - Welshlinz - DD 6yrs
29th June - JLo2 - DS11, DS7, DS6
29th June - Highrise - first baby
early July - lyca - 3Dcs
1st July - Rattling - first two babies TWINS
1st July - binkerbeany - DS 2yrs
1st July - Mrsmope - DD 4, mmcs TWINS
2nd July - Nicky6 - DD 11mth
2nd July - pop1973
3rd July - ephrinedaily - DS 13mth
4th July - Mum2boys2girls - DS 14,DS 12,DD 7,DD 21months
4th July - ActivityApple - first baby
6th July - Hobbgoblin - 1DD, 2DS', 2mc
7th July - MuppetGirl - DS1, 4.8yr, mc and DS2, 1yr
7th July - Misspaella - DS 3, DD 17m
7th July - QueenFee - DD 4.4 DS 2.3
8th July - xxhunnyxx - first baby
8th July - JetLi - first baby
9th July - LargeGlassofRed - Ds 11, Dd1 8 Dd2 5 TWINS
9th July - Betsyboo - DS 10, DD 8.
9th July - London11 - DS 8 TWINS
9th July - bellybaba
9th July - Gillyan - DD 3
10th July ? Baffy ? DS age 3
10th July - Mij - DD 2.4
10th July - Newb - first baby
10th July - SafferUpNorth - first baby
10th July - rhubarbrhubarb - DS 3.9
11th July - Marsmonster - DD 10mths
13th July - Scully - DD1 6yrs, DD2 2yrs, 2 m/c.
14th July - doublehelp - 2 DCs
14th July - Naturopath - ds 16mths
14th July - Dannyg - 2 Ds?
15th July - Accebar
15th July - Lydiathetattooedlady
16th July - BeccaBump - DD 2yrs
16th July - Knax - DS 2 yrs, m/c
16th July - NattyTomAndEllen - DD 18 months, DS 30 months
17th July - Patchybob - DS 7, DD 5, m/c
17th July - Phoenix - DS 2.11yrs
18th July - Bozette - DS 14mnths
19th July - Dinkyboysmum - DS 16 months
20th July - LBK - first baby
20th July - Belgrano - DD 20months
22nd July - ray81 - 2m/c
23rd July - Andie01 - DS 2yrs
24th July - Madoldbird - DC 11&12 TWINS
24th July - Lastboxoftampons - first baby
24th July - Moominmoma - first baby
24th July - Lyrebird - first baby
25th July - maxmissie
25th July - PrincessButtercup - DS 5, DD 3, m/c
25th July - BonzoDoodah - DD 16m
29th July - Brainmish - Ds 1
29th July - Poppet45 - first baby
30th July - Mickeylou - DS 3yrs
30th July - Mavornia - DS 20 months

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Misspaella · 17/01/2009 20:02

Hi and welcome Poppet Dannyg Activityapple and all newbies I may have missed...this group is really growing!

So glad to hear that I am not the only one with adolescent skin. My skin is usually more dry/combo but has totally broken out and looks awful. Some are really bright red.

Christiana sorry to hear that your ms has come back. I had a sicky incident last night myself but think I am pretty much over it.

Just need energy now.

BonzoDoodah · 17/01/2009 21:04

Hey all - I'm with you on the tiredness. 13 weeks now and still utterly shattered. My best friend came round on thursday night and I fell asleep sitting upright on the settee while she and hubby chatted. I keep hoping it will subside but it hasn't shown any signs yet. My iron levels were "super" according to the midwife so I can't balme them. I've been taking Preggers vitamins with fish oils and she said "I can tell". So that's one positive.

No spots here but bulging belly. I bought two belly bands today and they are really comfortable and I can safely undo my trousers now without them falling down [relief].

beccabump how inconsiderate of other people implying you're making the wrong decision! It's your baby. It's hardly irresponsible is it? Not like necking a litre of whisky a night! We had the nuchal fold test but didn't think we'd do anything even if it was low - we just needed to know - so a sort of opposite of you - but I can fully see why you wouldn't take them if it really didn't matter to you. You're going to be super parents if that is your attitude Maybe you should just remember that some people don't have the intelligence to realise that people can have different opinions from their own

PrincessButtercup · 17/01/2009 23:07

Hello everyone. I joined forever ago but have been so nervous about this pregnancy not working out (miscarried last cycle) that I've almost been in denial that I am actually pregnant, despite the fact that I've felt AWFUL. Well, I'm now officially 13 weeks, still feeling reassuringly sick and hopefully here to stay! I'll have to catch up with the gazillion posts below but look forward to checking in with you all regularly.

Beccabump, I couldn't help but notice your post as I've just had a scan nightmare and wish I hadn't put myself through the whole ordeal in the first place. Like you, I knew that i would keep the baby regardless but I felt that I would like some idea as to what to expect just so that I could be prepared.
My hospital offer the combined nuchal scan and blood test (only offered scan with my two previous DCs). I agreed to both without much thought and went in for my scan on Thursday. The scan seemed fine but I was surprised that I was not given any information at all there and then (in my previous pregnancies, the results had been disclosed to me by the sonographer during the scan). I was simply told at the end, "I'll bring your report out to the waiting room. Just hand it in to reception, then wait to be called for your blood test."

The report was duly brought out to me in the cattle market that is the maternity waiting room. I had a look through and saw that my baby's nuchal measurement was plotted on a graph as above the 95th centile. I'm no medical professional but it was clear that this was not a great result. So, with no one to talk to, I held in my tears and stood in line for reception to hand this in, thinking that I'd be able to talk this over with my midwife when she took my blood. Half an hour later, I was called for my blood test, not with a midwife, but with a nursing assistant and was told that I'd recieve my combined results via post or by phone in the next couple of days if problematic. Too stunned and disorientated to argue, I left in tears. I'd been prepared for an answer of some kind, positive or negative, but having just some information and no counselling/advice whatsoever was awful. I spent all night googling the result that I'd seen (though, unhelpfully, I hadn't noted the mm measurement) and poring over statistics.

Yesterday morning I knew that I couldn't spend the weekend not knowing and booked in for a scan at the Fetal Medicine Centre that day. My blood was taken and analysed there and then and the doctor who did my scan was fantastic. The nuchal measurement was highish (2.7 mm), giving a 1/93 chance of chromosomal abnormalities, my blood took this down to 1/8000ish. So, 24 hours and £150 later (the best I've ever spent), I had an answer (I also know what I'm having!).

I think one benefit of having the tests Becca, would be that if, as with mine, your nuchal measurement is high, because this can be a marker for heart defects (not necessarily related to chromosomal abnormalities), this will be flagged for your 20 week scan. Extra special attention would then be paid to the heart structures in order to pick up any problems before birth but perhaps you could argue that this level of attention would be expected anyway. I dunno. This whole scan palaver has been more trouble than it was worth for me.

Sorry! Ridiculously long and probably not very interesting to you lot but grrr! had to get the events of the last couple of days off my chest...

Beccabump · 17/01/2009 23:26

Thank you BonzoDoodah and PrincessButtercup (fab name by the way!) for the replies I am feeling much better now I have been able to get it down and off my chest. I am a person who struggles quite often with self-worth and self-esteem so I can often let what people say to me really affect me. I take almost everything to heart and that makes it hard to remember that I need to do what is right for me (and hubby in this case!) and not go by other peoples opinions!

PrincessButtercup - I can't believe you had such an awful experience with your scan - so glad you were able to get it sorted quickly although you had to pay for it! I am hoping that the sonographer here (in Cornwall - well Devon for the hospital!) will be as thorough as my Cheltenham one in looking at the heart at 20 weeks. They were really good in Chelt with DD and explained everything well even down to the measurements even though we had no concerns with the pregnancy.

Wishing all a peaceful nights sleep!!

xxx

scully · 17/01/2009 23:45

Reading your post PrincessB, they do things differently over there. I also didn't remember having a blood test with my nuchal for either dd1 or dd2 (both born in UK). But now we're in Brisbane, I had a blood test a week before my nuchal scan, and the results had been sent through to the sonographer, so she could put the scan and blood results in the computer whilst I was there and give me the results straight away. After getting to 13wks wondering if everything was ok (having had 2 m/c already) I wouldn't have wanted to wait any longer. Can understand why you went private. So are you going to tell us what sex your baby is?
Becca, hard to do but ignore most of what people say. I listen, take in the useful bits of advice and ignore the rest but dd1 is 6.5yrs and it has taken me a while to get to this point. Everyone has an opinion with pregnancy and children, whether they have any or not
And to be honest, until you're in the position of having a disabled child or getting news of a possible disability from a scan, you have no idea how you would really react. If you and dh are happy with your decision, that's all that matters
Know what you mean about tiredness, I'm almost 15wks and am still finding myself overtaken with exhaustion after doing too much, at times. Never had this past the 1st trimester with the dd's, I'm putting it down to having 2 children to look after and being 38, and not being used to being pregnant in hot weather, the humidity is really draining some days.
Haven't had spots yet though, you can all keep those
Have noticed my nails growing nicely though, which they don't always do, so a nice bonus.
Congrats Lyrebird, how lovely for you, after 5yrs

BonzoDoodah · 18/01/2009 09:27

buttercup that's just wrong! Those tests are done for your benefit not the medical people. I'd complain about that treatement if I were you.Very poor. Glad your results are okay though.

Lyrebird · 18/01/2009 15:58

Jeez, scans and getting the results can be difficult enough without horrendous treatment - I'm so sorry you guys went through that. I also went to the FMC and so had fabulous care, even though I was really anxious about it all.

Scully, I've seen pregnant women in Oz pant during the heat - take care of yourself!

QueenFee · 18/01/2009 19:40

Welcome Lyrebird and many congratulations - you must be so excited now!

becca I agree with you totally. Myself and my DH wouldn't do anything if there was a problem so we haven't had any tests for any of ours. (This is my 3rd pregnancy) My brother has a disability as a result of labour and it makes no difference to how we feel about him - and that wouldn't have been picked up on any tests. We never know what life has in store for us. Don't get me wrong I would personally struggle if I had a baby with Downs or something but I believe you just deal with what life throws at you and I would rather not do the worrying. We have people even diss us for saying I don't want to know what the sex is. I totally understand why people do but my personal preference is a nice suprise. I also have learnt to have a thick skin in the last 5 years. The things being a parent does to you!

mavornia · 18/01/2009 20:35

hello girls! thanks for asking, christiana - I'm still here! I've just been like a zombie for the past 10 days or so as I haven't slept at all at night and have been too tired to post during the day. Being so overtired has made me really sick and queasy too - hardly suffered ms at all until recently but I've been throwing up lots this past week.

ds (22 months) seems to be getting his back teeth and keeps stirring and crying all through the night. He has always woken at least 2 or 3 times during the night for a drink or a cuddle (little rascal definitely doesn't need the milk but I've been too much of a wuss to let him cry) - but for nearly two weeks he has been sitting up and crying when i try to creep out of the room and waking up every 15 minutes or so even when he seems to be in a deep sleep. I end up rubbing his back most of the night. He's been dosed with calpol, medised etc but nothing seems to work - but his little cheeks are bright red and he keeps putting his finger in his mouth during the day, I'm hoping it's just a teething phase

it better be - or how will I cope with 2....[mavornia tries not to panic]

will try to catch up tonight with all the posts, feel I've missed loads

thank goodness I'm still in Belfast and have my mum to help in the afternoons - i think I would have gone mad by now if I was on my own in Egypt

bozette · 18/01/2009 21:59

hello all, another previously talkative been semi reclusive lurker more recently person here. Have been feeling really rough, had bird flu over christmas and now feeling better but worked the last 2 weeks and weekends and so very tired!!

Have been reading everyones news every day though, and hearing how you are all feeling has been really reassuring and important, so thanks for all the virtual support!!

Lots of hugs to all with worries, congratulations to those with good news and sympathy to those with ms still.

As for me, had scan, only 1 in there, all fine. Ms alot better, almost feeling human again. Don't remember if i posted my dh's quality recent comment before... 'i'm finding this pregnancy so much harder' grrrr, he still keeps repeating it for comic effect!!

SafferUpNorth · 19/01/2009 08:34

Hi everyone, just catching up on the weekend's posts.

Welcome (back) to newbies and those who haven't posted for a while. Poppet, you'll love living in Edinburgh - we look forward to welcoming you.

And SOOOOO sorry I was so negative about ERI/Simpsons, really didn't mean to scare anyone. I just have a phobia of big hospitals generally, which is why we're opting for a home birth (all being well, of course). If we had a cosy MLU here in town, I might have considered that.

Other topics:
Spots - yes, suddenly looking a bit adolescent this last week.

Screening test - grrrrr, DH and I are NOT seeing eye-to-eye here. I am having blood this week; we had an indepth discussion about it on Friday. If the risk is high, DH would like me to consider having the amnio, however I wouldn't want to - no point as I'd like to keep the baby anyway. However DH has said, if it's up to him, he'd consider termination if it comes to that... Mmmm, I think we have more discussion ahead. But hopefully we'll never have to make that decision.

Newb · 19/01/2009 09:57

Saffer, I sympathise with your dilemma re the test. DH and I said - pre conception, that we'd test and consider termination if something was wrong (made me feel very though) When I got pg, we didn't discuss it, had the test anyway as it's automatically done here, all was OK but I don't think I could have made the decision.

Suggest you don't maybe need to discuss til you get results as you most likely won't have to have the conversation and may feel differently when and if you do. Good luck for test anyway

All good here, went snowshoeing on Saturday (as poor but pg approved alternative to ski-ing) and felt almost human for the first time in months which was lovely, paid for it yesterday though, could barely move from sofa.

My Mum was visiting and has bought us a set of three tiny little newborn vests as a first prezzie (well they look massive when I think about what has to happen to get a baby of even that size here - eek!) I washed them so could put them away (I just know I'm going to be such a pfb kind of Mum!) and DH and I both welled up when they came out of the tumble dryer all warm and little baby-ish. I'm looking forward so much to having the little one (until now has been a kind of disbelieving terror mixed with excitement......)

Scan this morning (15 weeks, the Swiss over-medicalisation continues) all good and he gave us a wave and a wriggle. Ah I'm all mushy and hormonal now, at least this helps me remember why when I'm throwing up semi-digested banana first thing in the morning....

Ooh and someone else I know has just said she's 10 weeks. So chuffed as not so many English people out here, am trying to scrape together potential ante-natal group...

PS sorry this sounds like a dear diary entry. Lack of people in same boat in RL, and only som much I can harp on to DH without his eyes glazing over...

PrincessButtercup · 19/01/2009 10:12

Morning!

Feeling much better this week with last week's stresses over. Even my morning sickness - dare I say it - seems to be on the way out . Seem to be catching those spots though...not good.

Thanks for your sympatehetic posts, Lyre and everyone. Good point, Bonzo.I've posted a letter of complaint today. I hope that it will cause the hospital to rethink their protocol for dealing with scan results.

Becca I hope you're feeling better? There really is nothing like parenting for bringing out our insecurities. I have not stopped questioning myself since the day I found out I was pregnant with DS (over 6 years ago!).

QueenFee, your advice is very sound. I envy your thick skin and your patience - I'm still working on both of those qualities!

Scully, I'm having a boy! Surprised (I thought that my ridiculous morning sickness indicated a girl) and thrilled (but then would have been whatever. I already have one of each). My 3 year old DD was devastated when I told her but is quickly gaining enthusiasm!

Mavornia, I hope your little one settles down. I do find the 'it's only a phase' mantra very helpful. I'm sure you'll find 2 very do-able, especially with such a perfect age gap. Clever you!

Saffer, I hope that your results rule out any need for tricky discussions with DH. Good luck.

I'm loving all of the DH quotes. Sadly none of my own to add as my poor DH is not on top form at the moment (works for a bank, lots on his mind). Still, nothing like a new baby for helping us all to appreciate the good things in life!

Phoenix · 19/01/2009 11:44

I just got my 20wk scan appointment for Weds Feb 25th but just looked at the calendar and i'm not 20wks til Fri 27th. Will it be ok to do it then or should i change it?

lastboxoftampons · 19/01/2009 11:54

Hello all:

Phoenix Think you should be fine with your scan at 20+2. I don't think that scan is so dependent on when it's done. The "12 week" one NEEDS to be done between 11 and 14 weeks because after that time, they are not able to get a proper nuchal measurement. My "20 week" is not actually until 22 weeks. I'm sure it's fine. You might want to call your doctor though.

Buttercup Congrats on your little boy! Sorry about your nightmare scan. Over here we have scan and bloods done at the same time, You have to wait about 20 minutes after your scan is done to get the results of the bloods. Unfortunately for us, the machine broke and they had to do redo the blood test, which meant waiting for another hour for the results. I sent DH home and hoped for the best. Luckily was good news.

As for the screening - well everyone's different, aren't they? DH and I did have in depth conversation about what we would do and decided we would consider termination if the scan showed disabilities. However, as someone said, I don't think we could possibly know what we'd do unless we were faced with the actual fact. In the end, I'd rather have the choice than not know at all. Plus, I would want to be prepared in any case. It's a totally personal decision and although one may disagree with others on what they would do with the information, no one has the right to condemn anyone else or to impose their opinion.

As for Spots - yes! On my chest, on my back and on my face. It's yucky!

I'm 13+3 today, very excited! I have my booking in with the midwife this afternoon. Anyone know what they're likely to do? will they listen to the heartbeat?

Phoenix · 19/01/2009 12:11

LBOT - The letter says the scan is usually done between 20-22wks. I will only be 19+5. I might give them a ring tomorrow just to make sure

Not sure if they'll listen to heartbeat at booking in. They didn't at mine but it was done at 7+3 so no point really. My mw just went through all paperwork and that was about it really.

Congrats on your little boy buttercup

I'm having my triple blood test next week but no idea what we'd do if it showed anything guess we'll cross that bridge if we get to it.

lastboxoftampons · 19/01/2009 12:45

Thanks Phoenix

And oops! meant 19+5, not 20+2! Still think you'd be fine, but worth a call to the midwife, I think.

Belgrano · 19/01/2009 12:59

Gah! Just typed a long msg and lost it!
Beccabump - I thiknn you are very sensible and I would do what you've done (I think!) next time. It is terrifying finding out and even when I thought I'd get bad news I had no idea what to do with that news so would have been better off not starting the whole process!
Hi to all of you and thank you so much for your congratulations. I am still wary, pending the 2 wk CVS results and dead scared of the 20 wks scan in case the 4.1mm nuchal fold was not indicative of another problem like heart defects, but am trying in the meantime to enjoy my pg! Thank you all, lovely mumsnetters. x

Belgrano · 19/01/2009 13:00

sorry - obviously I mean scared in case the 4.1mm nuchal WAS indicative of another prob, not 'was not!' Typing at work in open plan offices while trying to look busy causes problems....!

ephrinedaily · 19/01/2009 13:30

Hi all hope everyone is getting some energy back and finishing with the MS, everyone with toddlers you have my sympathies - DS is a big handful at the mo!

LBOT Sometimes the MW will try and find the heartbeat at your stage stage but often they can't find it as baby is so small, so in order not to worry people they sometimes don't bother! If they do it is lovely to hear though

Belgrano I don't think I've congratulated you on CVS result yet - that's fantastic news. I think we'll both be shaking at the 20 week scan but I bet you're out of the woods now. It's hard to relax tho isn't it?

Phoenix I'll be slightly less than 20 weeks too, where I live they do ut at 18-22
weeks so it can't be that important.

Becca totally agree with you on the nuchal. Didn't have it last time, didn't want it this time and they did it anyway, look at all the trouble and panic its caused us for nothing anyway. If you wouldn't terminate for DS I don't think there's any point to it.

Bozette PMSL at your DH's comment. So sorry to hear he's finding things difficult

Had a bit of a scare over the weekend, went into hosp with some bleeding and because of the high 2nd trimester miscarriage rate with my nuchal measurement thing, totally panicked. Cervix was closed though and it was old blood so they let me go the next day when it had slowed down. Baby's heartbeat ok. Do not know how I'm going to get through the next 24 weeks, really hope nothing like that happens again

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