Due June 08 - As we start nesting will the creme eggs start hatching?

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Another new thread! By the time this one runs out we might have some babies!!! Although, we do chat a lot so maybe not...

Chocolate for pre-eclampsia! I knew there was a reason why i have been eating so much chocolate this time! If I hadn't had any chocolate, my BP would be through the roof all the time. Where did you read that, whinegums?

Thanks for the offer of the hynpnotherapy CDs - remembered freecycle and have someone sending me a copy of all 4 natal hynpnotherapy CDs for free - absolutely brilliant - if you haven't had a look at freecycle, go to www.freecycle.org/groups/unitedkingdom. It's also really good for baby kit I think.

Whinegums - I had an emergency wisdom tooth extraction earlier this preg. It wasn't much fun I'm afraid, but once the tooth was out it was only really bad for about 4 hours afterwards. I had all the pain before hand pre the tooth coming out.

I did get an injection prior to the actual extraction, thank goodness! It was only when the injection wore off that I was in real pain and that really wasn't for too long. Pain relief wise I was told paracetamol only. I tried clove oil as well, which did help a bit, but they may have been distraction rather than genuine pain relief.

Recommend getting lots of haagen daaz in. {wink]

Hi everyone, just back from my NHS ante-natal classes and of course they are being given by my mad as a brush midwife! It wasn't too bad - no real neds though .

Cant remember who asked about self-tanners, I seem to recall looking into this ages ago and I dont think that there is any conclusive evidence on it. Like many things I think they say you maybe should avoid them but only because no one has done any research on using self-tanning in pregnancy. I cant see the harm in using one of those tanners that you use over a few days to build up a bit of colour and avoid pasty legs.

whinegums I dont know if you're allowed panadol during pregnancy but when I had tooth problems last year the soluble one gave loads of relief when I swirled it around my dodgy tooth before swallowing.

Anyway, working from home today so need to get some food and get going with it!

I am off to the midwife. Perhaps she will finally have my test results. After all it was only two weeks ago that i was in hopsital!

I never thought I'd say this but I'm so bloody glad I can drive (DH made me learn before he'd even contemplate kids...). Admittedly it's an effort getting in and out and I can only really do local trips, but I'd go absolutely insane if I couldn't at least get out once in a while. I treated myself to a trip to Waitrose today. Am now so knackered I can barely read.

Loving the no socks thing. HAve just realised my legs haven't seen the sun for a good year so may have to go to a tanning booth person- DH can't paint, so I'll be buggered if he's coming anywhere near me with self-tan!

Oh- whinegums. Doc has just prescribed me Co-Dydramol 10/500...I can take 2 for times daily...to try and alleviate SPD pain (ha!) But cannot take any other painkiller etc with it because contra-indicated. HTH.

mellymel - glad you got the CDs - freecycle is brilliant, isn't it?! It's saved me literally hundreds of pounds on baby stuff, and when we don't need ours any more it'll go straight back on.

Been out for lunch and got my choccie supply on the way back - read here:
www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/health/253194/eat-chocolate-pregnant-women-urged.html

And can I just say, I don't usually get my health advice from Marie Claire!

Thanks for sympathy from all for tooth - luckily it's not bugging me too much, but I'm dreading it coming out. I am pleased to hear that toothache is worse than labour pains!

Makecakes, codrydamol is fab, I get the best night's kip after it - I was prescribed it for back pain after an accident. Haven't needed to take any for ages though luckily.

DQ - shame there were no neds, what about Cheggers?

No cheggers either! They did show hospital video but on a teeny little portable tv that was side on for me. My back was absolutely killing by the end of it . Have NCT classes tonight so a bit of birth prep overkill I think!

makecakes I only learned to drive last year and am sooooooo glad I did. It's a long walk up a steep hill to the bus stop from my office and I love being able to nip about by car. I shouldn't get parking at work but they are being very understanding while I'm pregnant so when DH is away I can usually take the car in. My carbon footprint has increased by squillions though [guilt emoticon].

Afternoon all, having spent afternoon playing golden compass on wii (not sure if thats rest or not as it can be quite stressful when you cant get past a challenge!!!)
I am now off to shops with dog to get choclate cause if thats what is recommended for BP How am i to refuse?!!!!

Gosh I didn't realise that 1000 baby a year died because of pre-eclampsia!

Back from midwife, apparenlty baby is head down although she wasn't 100% sure as he has a hard bottom and she wasn't sure initially whether it was its bottom or its head. She wasn't overly impressed when I told her I wanted to change hospital either! My tests are apparently still inconclusive but she had the results on the screen and she re-did the urine test etc and said she didn't think I should re-do the test a fourth time.

So glad I had a large piece of chocolate cake tucked away for just such an emergency. Baby cakes not very active today so hoping the sugar high will have an effect on her too!!

just got back from taking ds to the park. had to walk to pharmacy first (uphill from park so knew i had to get it over with BEFORE playtime!) and then we managed to stay for about an hour. i feel really proud of myself because i know ds has cabin fever but am also in so so so much pain and physically it feels like i just ran a marathon.

it's going to be a long 5 1/2 weeks till my mum gets here!!

whinegums I am so in need of a good night's sleep... can you really take co-dydramol in pg? If so I might have some tonight... got some left from last CS

needahand what a nightmare with the spd... won't any nice mums give you a lift, or pick up your DC for you?

I don't have SPD, but am so fed up of being so unwieldy and gigantic... just now tried to break up an argument between DD and DS and remove the offending toy. DD ran off with it, with me lumbering behind shouting 'come here, come here'... as we completed one full circuit of the downstairs rooms, i realised i wasn't going to catch her and resorted to shouting extra-crossly 'COME HERE NOW' whereupon i let a bit of wee out with the effort (blush)

Needahand - happens to the best of us (mistaking face for bum )

DM - you poor thing, you sound knackered. Hope the next few weeks go quickly for you.

Mistermoo - I have that problem too. I am so hoping it sorts itself out after the baby is here but I fear I may need a bit of help

I am a crap girly driver. I can drive but very nervously and not on motorways, and I can't park. However, the more I do it, the better I am and with almost 4 children we really do need to sort out a family car that I have permanent access to and can cope with. I actually really like walking and it's obviously much better for me and the children - just nice sometimes to have the option of the car, and once I can deal with motorways I'll be able to take them on lovely day trips and things like that.

Mistermoo - I'm sorry but I had to laugh at your predicament when you shouted, I'm having the same problem with my cold when I cough and sneeze!!

See- up until this point we have all been positive and glowing and had tasteful conversations about changing bags and so on....with a few weeks left, I think the pretense is finally being put to one side as we all literally fall apart

Or maybe we just hoped that the SPD, snoring, constipation, 'stress incontinence' and feeling like a heffalump that books and people vagely mention would just pass us by...[wishful thinking emoticon]

I rather wish it had!! Shall we play symptom Bingo???

I don't think there's any hope left for tasteful conversations as the birth grows ever nearer.

Have you got your head out of that sand now?

oooh sorry makecakes- i am lowering the tone

debinaustria whereabouts are you in austria? i used to live in Bregenz on the border with Switzerland. Loved it (and had sexy bf with motorbike) Sorry about yr cold... i also have to cross legs to sneeze these days

Only checking this thread once a day when I get home from work really is inadequate for keeping up with all the chat. I spent 40 mins reading Monday's posts last night and then had no time to write anything.

I have had a bit of a revelation today about why DH and I are the least organised prospective parents - ever. I have been at a team building event for work (ironic when I have 5 days left in the office). The day was based around something called "Myers Briggs" which is a type of psychometric profiling. To cut a long story short, I am a "perceiver" rather than a "judger" which means that instead of doing things as soon as possible; having lists and getting very organised, I enjoy researching stuff, and leaving the actual decision to the last minute. DH has done this test at his work and he is also a "P", which means that between us we never get anything done ahead of time. This is fine normally when you know exactly when something has to be done by, however babies can come early so we could come unstuck! Worryingly DH is a stronger P than me, which means that I have to be more organised. This explains alot about our domestic lives including why DH wont debate baby names with me. In his "P" mindset it is irrelevant to discuss it until well into advanced labour. Ho hum. I am sure the baby will get a name in the end.

MIL amused me the other day by questioning the judgement of friends of hers who have just given their child a "donkey name" (her words not mine). After digging around in her memory she remembered that the "donkey name" in question is "Jemima". Apologies to those of you that are thinking of this for a dd. I like the name myself, and associate it with Jemima Kahn/Goldsmith who I think is rather glamorous. For me it has neither playschool or donkey associations, but DH says no (in fact he has not said yes to anything yet). Still haven't worked out where the "donkey" concept comes from though. Can anyone explain what I am missing?

Slightly difficult conversation over lunch today with a male colleague who I have a great deal of time for. I knew that he and his wife have been ttc for some time, and have been having various tests. Anyway it turns out that they are about to start some treatment (not IVF, something less full on that precedes it, forgive my ignorance not knowing the name). I wanted to express some kind of sympathy/hope/best wishes, but sitting there with a giant bump, its hard to know what is helpful without being patronising, smug or just plain annoying. I'm afraid I ended up focusing on my food instead, and letting other colleagues fill in the gaps.

Sorry for the long post. NCT starts tomorrow night. Hope it's okay.

Hi everyone

We are all getting a lot more truthful nowadays - and less tasteful, aren't we?! Am doing my pelvic floor muscles like mad, but definitely have much worse stress incontinence this time.

DH and I both did Myers Briggs at about the same time and it explains a lot about our relationship. He is ISTJ and I am ESFJ (so we are both judgmental to your perceiving, Allipali), but I am driven by 'harmony' and keeping everyone happy, while he is driven by 'the truth', and pretty much every one of our arguments is shaped by this. [[http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp Here's] an unsophisticated online version of it for anyone who is interested or who has a bit of spare time (snort).

Well done Dylansmum for going to the park.

DH and I are both ENTP, I think that this means we are both clever clogs who like a good debate, but are a bit short on action.

Apologies to those of you who have no idea what these acronyms are all about.

allipalli - your colleague's wife is probably going for IUI (sorry, I'm an IVF veteran so a bit of an expert on all things fertility-treatment related ). It's very very hard to know what to say when you're pg and you know someone else is going through such hell. Tbh, saying nothing at all is probably better than saying some of the stuff that I've heard over the last 5 years!

I haven't done Myers Briggs myself but have done the team one (sponge brain means I can't remember what it's called!) and I'm a 'shaper' which means I come up with lots of good ideas (like "let's decorate all 3 bedrooms before the birth") but never actually get it finished, hence half stripped wallpaper, paint samples on the walls and complete chaos everywhere! Luckily dh is a 'completer finisher' which means he'll actually get the bloody job done!

it's Belbin! hurrah!

oh god im in a panic, think i need to go make sure I have stuff in a bag....ive had a few painful movements and it now feels as though the head is firmly lodged, which only happened a fw hours before with both dc's...keep telling myself im being silly but every time i move im thinking f**K!!!!please tell me im going round the twist? Thankfully I have MW first thing tomorrow so she can slap me about a bit and sort me out
had the old pee issue myself the other night while I was being sick ok coughing and sneezing though. OK think i will go find a bag