Due July 08 - lots of throwing up and a few saucy dreams!

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Hope it's ok for me to start new thread! Old one full!!!!

Pipe - I would be fuming too!

I have been having those saucy dreams - very pleasant !

Hello all!

Hope you had a great christmas

Minkus, i have tummy cramps in the morning too, but not too much trouble with the marbles! Agree with the others, lots of fruit - i seem to have a bit of a thing for pineapple at the moment.

Welcome KerryMea, i am a first timer too. Where abouts are you in NZ at the moment? We went a couple of years ago and we were going to do a glacier hike (is it franz joseph?) but it was cancelled due to bad weather - I'm sure we're not mssing anything too exciting! Will you be having scans etc over there? Or are you back soon?

Got my scan date through for next friday, can't wait! Have the oscar test the following monday which is a bit nerve wracking but am definitely happier knowing what is going on - the more information the better.

Happy New Year to you all in case i do not post again before.
x

Hi everyone. Been reading this thread for a while but didn't want to join till i knew everything was okay as my last pregnancy was molar. Had second scan on thurs and everything still fine, due on 18th july. I have one daughter already age 2.8. Starting to get a little excited now though still nervous

Hello lovelylou, sorry to hear of your past sadness- glad things more postive this time. Here is the list I've put your entry on there for you, was pages back took a while to find. Can't believe there are so many of us!

Frogmarsh what's the oscar test? I'm not as knowledgeable about testing as perhaps I should be and that one is def not one I've come across before.

26JUN TJUICE (FIRST BABY)
02JUL LIBRALADY (DS 3.8)
02JUL BABY3 (DD8 DS5.5)
02JUL UNFITMUMMY (DD 2.7)
03JUL ISAIDNO (2DS 4 & 2)
03JUL MRSCLAIRET (FIRST BABY0
05JUL MRSMADMAND (DD 1.3)
05JUL PONTO (2DD 4.6 & 2)
06JUL PENGUINMUM (DD 2.7)
07JUL CHOCCIE (FRIST BABY)
07JUL HATRICK (3DD 4, 2.8 and 15 months)
07JUL MINKUS (DS 3)
08JUL PAULAPLUMPBOTTOM (DD 4)
08JUL SWEETKITTY (2DD 3.5 & 1.11)
09JUL THE PUDDINGCHEF (DS 1.6)
10JUL MINNIE1 (2DD 1.10 & 11MTHS)
12JUL MCCHESERS (FIRST BABY)
12JUL PIGLEYCHEZ (FIRST BABY)
13JUL MUMMYWANNABE (FIRST BABY)
13JUL PEGGYP (DD 9MTHS)
13JUL EEC (DS 11 DD 9)
15JUL JODIE (DS 15MTHS)
17JUL SANDCASTLES (DD 4)
17JUL PTIYPASI (DD 11MTHS)
17JUL DISNEYSTAR (7th BABY)
18JUL MYLITTLEELOISE (DC ?)
18JUL LOVELYLOU (DD 2.8)
21JUL FROGMARSH (FIRST BABY)
21JUL MIN912 (DS 1)
22JUL CASS66 (DD 5 & 3)
24JUL TWINKLE (DS 8& 2 DD 6)
24JUL SHROOMS (DS8 DD 6)
25JUL FEB (DS 10 MTHS)
26JUL WALKINGTIMEBOMB (DS 10 MTHS)
27JUL DIVVY (DD 18, 15, 13, 8MTHS)
27JUL RUMPEL (DD 13MTHS)
31JUL BREIZETTE (DD 10MTHS)
TBC JOOS (FIRST BABY
TBC BEALCAIN (DS1 2.2 DS2 10MTHS)

The Oscar Test (it stands for one stop clinics for the assessment of risk) is just the nuchal transluscancy (sp?) combined with blood tests (B-HCG and Papp-A) which give more accurate results (85% detection rate). Phew, had to get the pregnancy books out for all that info!! Am probably reading too much but i can't seem to help myself! It's probaly better to just relax and go with the flow after all my my parents generation didn't have any scans at all. Anyway, we are having it done privately because they don't offer the nuchal transluscancy here only the blood tests.

Sorry, bit confusing i meant the the blood test combined with the NT was more accurate.

ooh now I'm properly confused- detection of what and what's B-HCG & Papp A

I really am a complete novice about tests, new years reslution is to find out more asap!

I read loads and loads when pg with ds but this time round have just been too too sick. So do feel a bit un-educated- I'm sure the reason I had a great birth last time round is because I was so clued up on what to expect so I wasn't afraid of the pain, and that made things a lot easier. Methinks I need to get al my books back from the friends I have lent them to over the last 3 years

Thanks Hatrick, much better explained than i could have done. I hope it all goes well for you on wednesday, i have been following your other thread and have been so impressed at how you and your dh are handling everything.

I too have the combined on Wednesday. Will be thinking of you hatrick.

Afternoon all not much to say here really scan tomorrow, I'm sure I can feel the baby move especially lying down at night when everythings quiet, it's too far down to be stomach/intestines and it's like like flutterings, trying to remember when I felt it with DD2, I know the more you have the quicker you feel them? Anyone else feeling anything yet or am I mad? I remember with DD1 I felt nothing until about 19-20 weeks so first timers don't panic!

hatrick - not long of a wait for you will be keeping everything crossed for you on Weds. Again surprise surprise we don't get offered nuchal fold testing up here I got loked at as if I were mad last time I asked! We thought about going private but decided that as I am only 32 theres a reduced risk and also I don't know how I would deal with it IYSWIM.

Lovelylou - I think I know you from the mc threads, anyway hello and congratulations, glad all is well.

Pigley - I am just wondering of anyone will be expecting twins, well we will know quite soon

Mcchesers - hope you are enjoying your holiday but I bet you are missing our fine Scottish weather (rainy and freezing today for a change)

Scottishsusan - good news about the scan and the bleeding, I'm hoping mine was just a bit of erosion too. Afraid it's not down to much use, DP has been banned from erm relations until after we find out all is OK. Don't think we would have felt totally relaxed enough to enjoy it anyway.

Hope everyone else is having a relaxing Sunday afternoon x

Hello all... am feeling the need to vent a bit rather than rant. Feel free to skip to the next post!!

It sort of hit me yesterday that I have been feeling increasingly down of late - I think it started around my birthday (three weeks ago) when I felt blue about how different my life is to my childless friends, and it's been getting incrementally worse without me realising, I think my 'bah humbug' about NYE is part of it as well. (Although to be honest I am world's biggest cynic about NYE when not pregnant.)

Essentially I've been feeling more and more trapped by how my life is at the moment - not in the sense of not wanting to be a mum, but just feeling like I have absolutely no time to myself anymore. It feels like I have been clinging on until DS goes for his naps, and over xmas he was teething and so wasn't napping after his breakfast unless I lay down with him, which unsurprisingly didn't really feel like a break. And I think being pregnant again has made it stronger, in that I'm feeling like it's only going to get worse (plus sickness, tiredness, etc.). He is almost 14mths and not walking but needing what seems like constant entertainment.

I work part-time (3 days) and that's the only time when I'm not looking after DS. I don't feel angry with him (or DH) or like hurting anyone or anything like that, just like when he cries I want to lie down and cry too.

DH is actually really supportive and since yesterday I've kind of made a plan of action:

• I've posted a request to see if any other mumsnetters want to meet up on my local site (any of you in Oxfordshire??!). I think part of the problem is the 2 days when not at work seem like great swathes of child-entertaining time to be filled, so I need to schedule some activities that are good for me too. I've created a public profile for myself now.
• Try and be more friendly with the other mums at the one baby group I do go to
• Speak to my manager about it (I'll be telling her I'm pg when I go back on the 8th) and hopefully she'll say I don't need to take on any more clients right now. This combined with the fact that 5 of us are having to share 2 pcs on one desk means we don't have to go in to the office unless we have clients, which will give me a little bit of breathing space.
• Check out local uni gym to see if there are any aqua/ not too strenuous aerobics classes
• Possibly join ante-natal yoga class
• Try and spend the odd night out with female friends (childless or not!)
• Look at finances to see if there is a possibility of DS going to the childminder when I'm not at work even if just for 2hrs extra a week
• If things don't improve, see GP and/or counsellor

Can anyone think of anything else?? Family support isn't really an issue, my parents live abroad half the year and DH's mum is too far away and besides I wouldn't let her look after DS on her own.

Sorry for such a long post, think I just needed to get it all out in an attempt to feel less guilty.

Hi Min912, Sorry you are feeling down.I recommend you look up Homestart.I voulunteer and work 1 day a week for them.In short they offer long or short term support for parents with kids under 5 who are having a hard time.They cover everything from post natal depression,mums with new twins,parents who just need a break for a few hours etc.You can self refer by just giving them a ring or you could get a referal from a HV, Dr etc.They really do help and all the people i meet who work for them are parents themselves and are really supportive.They also have great info about local mums groups etc.
I hope this helps,try to remain positive.
twinkle

i'LL BE THINKING ABOUT YOU TOMMOROW kITTY

Hi Min912,me again
This is the homestart national web site so you can have a read about it,it also has the local numbers for oxfordshire.Hope this helps twinkle
www.home-start.org.uk/

Thanks Twinkle, that does look really good, I will definitely contact them.
Cheers, appreciate the help!

Also good luck for tomorrow Kitty and anyone else that has a scan this week.

Hi all, can I join in?!! I'm told i'm due July 2nd (but think should be bit before this - they were 3 weeks out with dd1 so don't have too much faith!!). DD1 is now 13 months. All good so far, completely different to last time, but poss due to having DD1 to contend with too! Had nuchal 2 wks ago - awful experince, last pregnancy was great - well worth the £180, this time the woman was awful, scan took 2 minutes, told us measurement 'quite high' but didn't explain anything then left us for 15 minutes (me in tears!) whilst she collected the blood results, then told us actually things looked ok and the results were 1:2800 - so what does this mean if your measurement is 'quite high' but the bloods are good? Totally confused and upset by woman's attitude and whole experiance, now spending whle time worrying, whereas with DD1 the scan reassured us.
Apologies for rant (just worried), especially on first posting - anyone else had anything similar? x x x

Min912 - I was quite relieved to read your email and realise not just me who feels like this at times, alot of people think that because we work 3 days that means we have 2 days off - I wish! my days at work are certainly easier and less stressful than my days at home at the moment!! whereabouts are you in Oxfordshire?

Min912 the only bit of advice I would offer is not to feel guilty about taking time out for yourself. It took me 18 months of being back at work after maternity leave before I "allowed" myself a day off without ds- I'd felt terrible before then at the thought of leaving him at nursery whilst I went to the gym or had my hair cut. I thought that I was being a bad mum by not spending time with him that potentially I could have.

So your plan looks great, make sure you stick to it! Good luck.

Hatrick- thanks for info about scans. Will have more questions now to ask mw sensibly. Good luck to you and ThreeFrenchHens for Wednesday.

xx

Beepbeep I am in Chalgrove, about 8m SE of Oxford, not that far from Henley / Wallingford. I'm having the combined nuchal on the 8th at the JR week after next.

If you don't have a written explanation would it be worth giving them a ring and asking for more of a breakdown of the results? For that money you deserve it!

I think maybe I've been feeling guilty for wanting time to myself as that's kind of my own mum's view (she told us when we were little that 'having children wasn't going to change my life' - er, isn't that kind of the point??!) and I wanted to be completely different and prioritise family life. I guess I just have to find a happy medium and remind myself that if I don't prioritise DS 100% of the time then I'm not being a bad mum. In fact if I don't do things for myself now and again then I'm actually risking being a bad mum by being unhappy / resentful / braindead.

Hello everyone, hope you all had a good Christmas

I am meeting my midwife tomorrow which I am looking forward to. This is the first appointment for anything on the NHS - no scan or anything yet, and I am just over 13 weeks, so this has surprised me. I am wondering if they are more relaxed when it is your seocnd baby, or whether they are struggling with maternity services here.

Min - just wanted to let you know that you are not alone in feeling the way you do, I feel the same a lot of the time post DD1 my life changed completely, I had a good career in London but it was not compatible with children so we left and moved back to Scotland. I can't get a job up here so will have to retrain at some point. I have a degree and loads of work experience but cannot get a job. I feel like a non person sometimes. I am never without the DDs as much as I love them I would love about 2-3 hours a week to myself. Try not to feel guilty I think it's part and parcel of pregnancy we swing from really happy to oh my God how will I cope (or is that just me).

beepbeep - hello and congratulations

F&Z - shocking you have not had a scan yet but I'm not surprised, up here if I hadn't had a reassurance scan at 8 weeks, I would not see a MW or had a scan until 15 weeks!

Thanks for all the well wishes for tomorrow will post as soon as I can x