Due Oct 2007 ~Little Piggies turning into Porkers!

[FloriaTosca]

Thought I'd get the new thread started as no one objected to my title suggestion

muppet good luck with pirates! Will be over to the shop for angel delight as soon as dh gets home!!!!

And can't remember who mentioned it (?J20) but I have to say that I have had only good experiences of docs and midwives treating me. Maybe they are extra courteous because I am a doc who knows. But they were all fantastic with us. Not a single complaint. The mw that was with us throughout ds's birth was very very good at explaining things on an appropriate level to me without being patronising and then taking a different approach with dh who is not a doc. They were great! So I'm not scared of them at all - bring it on - I'll shout at them for you for anyone who is scared!

Didn't get the pirates.....

re cravings -am also into that bloody nesquik (Spelling?) stuff that ds1 has to enable me to get 1/2 full fat milk down him every night. I make his then I make mine.....into strawberry atm.

Hmph, muppetgirl, i love strawberry nesquik, but we haven't hardly got any milk, i'm saving what we've got for coffee tommorrow, can't leave the house cos of flooding, stupid rain!!

about pirates for you.

is it me, or has there been some extremly weird goings on on mn lately? a lot of people seem very shirty on other threads, not our lovely one of course! but there seems to be a bit of nastiness going on, or is that just my hormones? (btw, daren't post this anywhere else or will get burned at the stake)

Welcome Designerbaby. If its any consolation my notes were missing just today; all because I went in for an unscheduled check up 10 days ago and they've been lost somewhere between triage and the antenatal unit..and that is in a good and efficient hospital!!! Basically it isnt your fault and the new hospital will redo everything so I wouldnt worry....but you do need that check up asap if only for your own peace of mind. I hope it goes really well after what must have been a horrendous time being misdiagnosed for something so tragic as Edwards and having to risk a CVB. I'm really glad for you that everything proved ok and hope the rest of the pregnancy is totally uneventful!

Everyone else; Thank you all for your understanding, lack of condemnation and support for our dilemma...in my heart I'm pretty certain (99%..) that everthing is and will be ok...after all up until now I've had all the outcomes except one totally clear of the translocation..I'm well and truly over due one of those!...but I'll admit, there is that 1% of worry.
Ejt; unfortunately there is no bravery, guts or determination involved, just desperation to be a mum and blind stupidity to keep putting myself on the firing line..but thanks for saying it, it makes me feel like a better person than I am .
Mump; Dh and I are not really at odds with each other, we were pretty much in agreement on this 3 years ago when we started all this....it isnt his fault that time and experience have changed my feelings on the matter...what I failed to mention was, that at that time he didnt really want to have kids, but selflessly decided that my need to be a mum was greater than his lack of desire to be a dad...the compromise on avoiding having a child with disabilities wasnt hard to make...but with each rising and falling hope he has come round more to liking the idea of fatherhood as I have changed position on the need for testing...the promise to test was relatively easy to make when not in the grip of pregnancy hormones and before I had had a taste of what motherhood felt like, and it definately isnt going to be an easy promise to keep, but if he can be so selfless for me then I should try to live up to his example...and we just have to pray that this time we get the outcome we both now want.
And before anyone gets erroneous idea that I'm some sort of self sacrificing angel of a woman, I ought to add that when the 16 week amnio was looming and we talked through this "compromise". I quite seriously made him swear that if the worst came to the worst and at 30 weeks we are left with a dying baby because of this test, whether it has Downs or not, he is going to be there for every gory second of the birth and he is the one who is going to sit and hold him/her in his arms and tell him/her how much he/she is loved and how sorry we are every second until he/she has passed away!...see...I'm not always very nice, but I'm not going through all that terrible guilt and grief on my own again like I did when Robyn died.

Right that is it on the subject from me...I wont mention it again until we either go for the amnio or decide not to..promise
I am now in desperate need of chocolate after that emotional outpouring...I think there are some profiteroles calling to me from the freezer...they'll only take 10 mins to defrost! mmmm!

Floria you just had me in tears! You are very eloquent and have an amazing way with words too.

We are ALL rooting for you and like you say you are well overdue some good news! Whatever happens and whatever you decide I will be behind you 110%. And will have a glass of bubbly for you if (when!!) the result is a good one.

Go enjoy the chocolate! xxx

OK so eloquent does mean you have an amazing way with words!!!! Babybrain!

And you feel free to mention it as often or as little as you want to as well x

That is to talk about your baby and how you are feeling not to mock me because I am not eloquent!!!

ah....can we all have a group hug? you guys are great

btw, anyone watching Eastenders?

I just have been

I couldn't watch it when i saw dawn wqs handcuffed to a bed with may threatening to 'get 'er bag'
The caught the end yesterday with mad may trying to walk out of the hospital with dawns baby?!?!?

Has the world gone mad?

alicet if you are around can you look at tbis thread?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=29&threadid=345327&stamp=070625204613

J20 I second the group hug....I dont know what I did without you all before I joined.

Alice you can be as baby brained as you like if you want to call me eloquent and say I have an amazing way with words, you can say both as often as you like!
I dont personally think I'm eloquent, just over emotional!...comes with the job I think ...and I'm always reducing you to tears, I'm sorry ....but this group is doing me the power of good; letting all my emotions out, I cant tell you how much better I'm feeling.....it is as cathartic as going out and performing my nickname and it is definately restoring my sanity after the last 10 months of misery. THANK YOU!!!!
((((BIG HUG))))) (sorry if it is chocolatey..those profiteroles were scrumptious!)

FT-i know what you mean, i quite often wonder how you all are if i haven't been on for a while.

re;chocolate, Asda have got big boxes of Roses for £2, i only bought one box though, and there wasn't hardly any strawberry or orange ones, but they'll do!

muppetgirl have done a link for alice for you here

Designerbaby ? welcome to the October thread ? they shouldn?t shout at you for not having your notes ? it?s hardly your fault is it?

What a nightmare to have a mis-diagnosis!

Alice ? all of your points are really good ? it?s such a difficult decision, isn?t it? Each of us will come to our own decision, and for each of us it will be the right decision ? whether it?s to go for a vbac or a repeat section.

Polarmummy ? don?t worry, the horror stories are not there as a representation of how a normal labour should be ? my marathon induction was due to a myriad of things, and if I?d done my research on induction as well as I did on everything else, I probably would have been a lot better off! The important thing to remember is that no matter how awful the birth experience last time, we have all decided to do it again! That says a lot ?.
Enjoy your Angel Delight!

Personally, I?m just about to go and indulge in a Buttons mousse ? ds has been told that these are specially made for mammy, and that he wouldn?t like them!

Katsh ? you make perfect sense ? whatever our decision, it will be the right one for us ?

J20 ? very impressed at you eating a whole lemon drizzle cake! And yes, there seem to be some very aggressive people around at the moment ? I steer well clear ?

Nellie ? isn?t it just so true? Consultants and midwives are seeing us at our most vulnerable ? and some of them seem to have forgotten why they became midwives ? midwife means ?with woman? ? a lot of them seem to think that it means ?make woman follow protocols!? ? the French word for midwife is sage-femme - it means wise woman ? mind you, the French have a ridiculously medicalised approach to pregnancy ? although you are allowed to eat paté!

Muppetgirl - about the pirates!

Floria ? enjoy your profiteroles ? and if you feel the need to discuss things with, then I, for one, will metaphorically hand hold as much as you need!

Have been to see my GP tonight ? had run out of my magic suppositories boooo! Have been given a scrip for some more, but pharmacy was shut ? so will have to undergo another sleepless night before I can take come!

I am going to add something I didn?t earlier ? when we were talking about my options for delivery, I didn?t realise how unbelievably emotional I am about the whole thing ? the minute the midwife mentioned the CL unit I broke down ? the idea of doing the high-tech thing terrifies me ? and stupidly I didn?t realise how much!

Right, am going to do some serious damage to a buttons mousse!

Love and hugs to you all, you lovely people!

Floria, v large lump in my throat after reading your posts. I think you are unbelievably brave in a very difficult situation and have made some really hard decisions.

Have no experience to add on the cs front as have never had one, although am absolutely terrified of giving birth this time round after two slightly horrific births. First much worse than second. I'm hoping that having a home birth this time round will give me some control and that I will feel more able to deal with it in my own environment. That's the plan anyway! I think I'd feel a lot better if I could go for an elective cs, but too scared to ask, in case I get shot down - that would really upset me (highly emotional!)

Ice cream tonight, me thinks

Oh, meant to say welcome to designerbaby and I would def go to your midwife's appt. If they get stroppy at you for not having your notes you are very well entitled to get stroppy back - you are the one that's pregnant after all!

tinytomummy - you won't believe how emotional and irrational I was by the time I came to my 34 wk and discussing birth possibilities. I think if it's worrying you that much it's worth raising with your midwife/ consultant. I know that some mw's can be very anti, but mine this time was totally understanding and agreed that so long as Cslt agreed (which she did) it was the right way for me to have my next bub. They won't shoot you down, and you may find that in discussing it it helps you to work out what the fears are, and whether there are other options for making this next birth a better one.

Thanks katsh! Have midwife's appt on wednesday, so might be brave and discuss with her then.

My life you lot it has just taken me an hour and a half to catch up on today's posts!!
Floria - what a huge decision for you both, as many have said, vent all you like and we will support and virtually hold your hand!

I've got to make the VBAC vs CS decision too, my consultant seemed to just assume I'd go VBAC so I kind of agreed but I'm not sure I've really thought carefully enough about it yet. I want to discuss it with my mw at some point.

Welcome to designerbaby

And there goes the baby brain again...can't remember who said what in what I've just read!

Can I justask a quick question (although I'll be heading off to bed in a moment so will have to check for hopeful replies tomorrow at work!)? I've been having horrible aches under my bump, like af aches, for the last couple of days. It's worse at night when I stop, although is alleviated by a hot water bottle. Don't think it is anything to worry about, hopefully Lo is just going through another growth spurt,and someone at work did mention that my bump had changed shape ove rthe weekend. Lo has been fairly active on and off , could it just be sore around my cs scar because she's quite literally kicking off? Also, am I ok to take paracetamol to take the 'edge' off of the 'pain'. (I hesitate to call it pain as it is really just a dull ache). Sorry for the ramble but I do so worry about aches and pangs.

Hope everyone is ok and having a choc stuffing night!

HM- thats the same knid of pains i'm getting and mw told me to take paracetemol, so if it works then it should be fine

We are spookily linked J20 thank you, I'll pop a couple of dissolvable ones before bed and hope it means I get a good night's sleep!

good luck

BTW just posted a thread about pregnancy pillows, feel free to comment all, here or on there