ALL NEW - Due in December!

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Over here girls - sorry for the abuse on the last one, but this is the happy one!

Lets get started!

Hi Pecka, yes relax as much as you can, would this be the time you were normally due your p? My friend had a small amount of spotting every 28 days when she was due whilst pg with her 2nd, it freaked her out everytime until she saw a pattern emerging...

Thanks for all who replied on the churning tummy, I'm glad its not just me, my digestive tract is really throwing a wobbler, nice to know its 'normal' OH what a joy these first few weeks are But we all know it'll be worth it.

I'm totally avoiding housework by being on mn, at work in an hour and a half and have people round tonight and looking at the bombsite around me they won't be staying very long in these most unrelaxing surroundings..

Is anyone having to shower all the time? I can smell myself all the time and its knocking me sick! I'm not a sweaty person generally but I can smell my own smell and its horrid! Is that just the ramblings of a crazy woman or what?!

If I don't get back on then have a great weekend ladies - feet up when you can and lots o lovely food, preferably cooked by someone else!!

Hi there everyone,
I am new to the site and have just found out that I too will be a December mum to be!
I really hope that everything is ok with you pecka - it's the horror that must be on all our minds at this delicate stage, I know it's on mine as I have friends who have miscarried and it's such a devastating thing to happen and then to have to tell people.
I'm already finding it very hard not to tell everyone. We've told family and I've had to tell a couple of friends but am determined to keep my mouth shut from this point onwards - it's good to talk to fellow mums to be on line as you can't spill my secret!!
I did the test on Tuesday and had to wait the whole day to tell my partner and 7 year old daughter who were both so delighted it made me cry. I am due on 27th December which is my partner's dad's birthday. In fact all the men on both families are winter and december babies so am fully expecting a boy to bless us.
This beginning bit is all new to me as with Megan in bizarre circumstances you only read about in magazines I didn't find out I was pregnant with meg til 6 months!! I was only 22 and it was terrifying, so having planned this one and the pregnancy being received in such a positive way instead of "sh*t what are we going to do now?" is very lovely!
I'm not feeling sick or tired yet but am sure that'll all change. I've been wondering if the gap between meg and this one will mean that this will feel more like a first pregnancy - anyone out there left a near on 8 year gap between children? What it means is that she will be a wonderful help - she's already told me off for mowing the lawn and is trying to learn how to make my cups of tea! She cannot wait to be a big sister, she's waited so long for it and for Jim it's his first baby so he's just beside himself. I feel very lucky and am all a-glow.
I'm really determined to have a home birth - anyone else thinking of this? My doctor was an anaethitist so he was horrified when I told him that but I had such a bad time in hospital with meg that I'd rather give birth in the middle of a field than go back in to do it all again.
Looking forward to getting to know you all over the course of the next nine months.
Niki xxxx

I'm sure everythings fine Pecka.
Hopefully your client will take your mind off things for a while

I'm feeling really pukey today.
I made the mistake of cooking a big ham joint last night and smoothering it in honey. Well the smell just made me feel ill and I can still whiff it this morning.
Its deffo a heightened sense of smell and I think thats what your having Lizzer.
I bet you dont smell at all but you can smell it, if that makes sense

Hello all - i really need to log on more often to keep in touch

Mrsdarcy - so sorry to hear your loss you're probably not checking the thread anymore but i wanted to say i'm thinking of you

Pecka - how are you feeling? I had brown blood with ds, it only lasted a day and to be honest I was so confident (or naive?) that everything would be ok, checking with doc sounds like a good idea and then it'll put your mind at rest

Lucy - i love the idea of us all having our babies for xmas (i want a home birth this time so am planning to be able to introduce ds to new sibbling with all our xmas decorations around!)

skiddale - hoping i still won't be pushing on the 25th ds was a week early so fingers crossed!

Ambi - i understand where you are coming from with thinking about being a SAHM but don't make too many decisions about what it'll be like just yet, I'm returning to work after a year off with ds and the first 6 months I was completely baby focussed and couldn't of dreamt of leaving him but as he becomes his own person and I'm more confident (and the PND is getting better) I know I'll be a better mum for working too because we'll be able to provide more for our children in the material sense and I'll be a more complete person in myself - having a lo takes your life and turns it completely on its head in the best way and its best to take it one step at a time and see how it goes - sorry for ramble but I'm having to help friend at mo who was so so def about how she was going to do everything that its come as a huge shock that babies have their own way - she wanted a home birth and ended up in hosp, was def going to bf baby wouldn't latch on, was sharing a bed but baby not sleeping so she's so tired its all too much and her hormones are running riot, so my advice is see how it goes (especially as hormones can be evil things and makes us a little crazy at times )

beanster - do you think you'll get PND this time? its something that I'm worried about as I don't know how I'll cope with PND and 2 dc's

congrats to beckle!

very of all of you who have had booking in appointments and scans - nothing from my mw yet - hoping I can push for scan before I go on 2 week hols (my 12 th week) so i know everything is ok

completely have the churning stomach thing and horrible poo (sorry tmi!) also can't be in kitchen when dh is cooking as feel sick but ok to eat food - he thinks I'm having him on and still so tired - staring work again will be fun!

hi Niks - yes am planning a home birth too - I posted on it on the childbirth thread as dh not 100% behind it yet but am waiting to find out everything ok at scan and then will find out more - also need to know if my mw will support it

Hi Niki. Welcome and congratulations
You're first pg made me smile as that happened to a friend of mine. She didn't realise until she was six months either. Was convinced she had ovarian cancer or something. Sometimes I think that seems like the easier way to go. At least you're not worrying or fretting over the slightest twinges!
Home birth - NO! This is my first though and although I hate hospitals I'm a total wimp when it comes to pain.
So tired today. OH (def not my dp today) came home after a pint that stretched into six and woke me up snoring like a pig in distress. I was ready to suffocate him! Kitchen looks like a bomb has gone off in his drunken attempts at cooking. I hope he has a stinking hangover all day in work!! (Sorry just needed a rant)

Pecka, glad that the spotting hasn't got worse, do call the doctors just in case. Most of all continue the positive thinking, like someone else said brown blood means old blood

THinking of you

Lucy

Can I get a couple of things straight,(pardon my ignorance):
dp: darling partner?
dc: darling children/child?
I like the abbreviations but am such a purist typer it may take a while to get the hang of them...I still take 3 texts messages to covey my point when one with abbreviations would do.
Glad to hear other people know women who thought their pregnancy was cancer. I thought the kicking was wind!! I know I know.... durrr.
Guts are awful too - it was one of the signs that made me think I might be pregnant, that and boobs so sore they throbbed.
I also have to assess whether my midwife will support my homebirth and my best friend is a doula who I am desperately hoping will stay in the country to see me through rather than knack off to india or somewhere else exotic for christmas as is her usual habit. JC didn't seem that keen at first but when i told him that the last hospital gave me the wrong baby after having taken her away so I could have a sleep he changed his mind pretty quick.

Just read the very helpful acronym list so no explanation necessary...

hmmmm midwife has just popped round to see me. She has booked me a scan on monday at 9.40.

She seemed positive and it was lovely to see her as she took care of me with DS.

I cant help but be paranoid though. My boobs are still sore but I havnt felt sick so far today.

morning all.
Pecka- def worth making minor fuss re spotting.
I didn't want to post this earlier in the week after mrsdarcy's sad news, but i had an early scan on wednesday after spotting on tuesday night - particularly worried as ms disappeared over w/end and boobs deflated a bit (such a relief! but it didn't last long ) - all okay and scan fine, with teeny, tiny chickpea squirming away. they had to do a t-v scan as it's so early but really not a problem, tho not very comfortable. spotting caused by small (1cm) haematoma between gestation sac and uterus wall (which I think is, if not good, a reasonably positive result).
slightly worried by the appearance of a fairly sizable (6cm!) corpus luteum cyst on left ovary (sorry if tmi) but sonographer assured me that c-l cysts were associated with positive outcome, but 6cm seems pretty big to me. i had some minor surgery several years ago because of a persistent c-l cyst that turned out to have disappeared on its own, but this one is bigger. anyone else had this? should i be worried?
other than this, all seems well, although had a few nasty moments at work yesterday - ms and the (very smelly) general public is not a good combination - was nearly sick on a particularly smelly customer and had to run out to back of shop with hand clamped over mouth. subtle.
hope everyone's okay.

Good news pecka, so glad all is well, and dundee as well

welcome and congratulations niks , I think most of us have younger siblings-to-be that your dd - must be lovely for her to properly understand what is happening.

I would love a homebirth but I don't think I'll be able to have one. Had one all arranged with dd but my bp suddenly went through the roof and haemoglobin was really low so was taken to hospital and had a post-partum haemorrage following labour so I think I would be strongly recommended to have this one in hospital. Don't really mind though as in many ways I don't really care how he/she gets here as long as all is well. Am a little of yours and insy's though and look forward to hearig about them!

Niks, my first child is a Megan too She will be 8 in October.

I also have a Harvey born 4 years after megan and 4 years before this one so not as big a gap as you.

It will be lovely for you having the first time feeling and so nice that your daughter can be really involved

Officially don't feel like a newbie, the Jan thread has kicked off!!!

Insy- thanks for that, I'm trying my best to be "organised" and decide well ahead of time what I want to do with everything, birth/parenting/working etc. MISTAKE!! Doesn't help with the emotions flitting back and forth all the time!! So if you guys catching me saying "I've definitely decided to...." - it may only last a couple of hours before changing my mind!!!

Glad things are ok Pecka, fingies & toes crossed for your scan (I prob won't be able to keep them crossed until monday, might be painful..)

Dundee, you saw the chickpea, yeay that's so good, don't know much about cysts but if chickpea's happy, try not to worry about it. Know what you mean about the smell thing, I thought it was quitting smoking that gave me a heightened sense of smell, but I keep repeating, it smells funny in here, people are getting paranoid (me included)

Hiya Niks, we're all in the same boat so this thread is a great sounding board for "does anyone get?" or "I'm worried about" I love it in here cos it's like having loads of pregnant sisters at the same stage.

Ambi - I like that - pregnant sisters

BTW does anyone else keep having overwhelming rushes of love for current DCs (more than usual)? I've just been sitting at my computer thinking Oh my God I just love dd so much, could I find it in me to love another baby so much. Sometimes when i get home and she toddles down to path to greet me I just want to cry at how gorgeous she is. Is this pregnancy-related or am I just a sentimental old git?

Glad things are ok so far Pecka.

I had my scan - it wasn't a vaginal one after all - yay. However I'd got dates totally wrong, or rather I must have got pregnant way after ovulation, so I'm only 6 + 5 and due on the 14th Dec, not the 4th.

Skidaddle - maybe you're just sentimental - but I get the same with my ds

rant alert
i've just been for a long, long awaited appointment for a facial (xmas present booked in February) that i've been looking forward to soooo much in the recent weeks of ms/exhaustion/grumpiness only to be told that i'm not allowed to have facials in the first 3 months of pregnancy because it's dangerous for the baby!!!! it's a glorified and over-priced face wash for heaven's sake! i mean REALLY. this is just ridiculous. i could have slapped the poor unfortunate therapist-infant who had to sit me down and explain that this was for my own good. how utterly, utterly ludicrous. i'm not asking to be bathed in alchohol and unpasteurised cheese, and rubbed down with cat litter for crying out loud. is it just me?

Dundee - i know what you mean... it's like you are an untouchable!! People are just terrified of something happening to the baby and them being somehow blamed and sued for thousands... it's a ridiculous blame culture when you can't be pampered because you're harbouring a chickpea (I love that - mine's been officially called bean). (The rant did make me titter a bit though - sorry). Don't you have a sympathetic girlfriend who could come round with chocolate and pamper you with some boots products instead? Not the same but at least you could have a laugh (not likely with infant beautician).
I have to say that the home birth thing is very flexible - it's what I would ideally like to do but I can appreciate that the best laid plans...I am hoping that this time I will be far more prepared as last time I went into melt down panic straight away and spent the rest of the labour flat on my back with meg's heart being monitored and all sorts of other delightful things. I think I would rather be next to my warm fire and then be able to go to my own bed but hey - whatever is fine as long as bean comes out ok.
The smell thing hasn't got me yet - megs was very ill last night, sick several times and I was fine clearing it up. We've been sofa surfing today watching dvds which is actually very nice indeed - a good excuse to slob around and take it easy for a day. Think she's feeling better and there's been lots of bugs going round the school but I feel ok so far so fingers crossed.

Our inspection went fine but I am seriously tired! I keep telling everyone it is stress! We had a post-inspection party tonight - I am supposed to be going. It will the 1st night in about a month I have stayed up past 8. Mind you I am still feeling sick..I get really bad evening sickness and then by about 10 I am so hungrey again thinkink about Thais and salt and vingar crisps.

Pecka - has the spotting stopped yet?
I keep thinking over the next few weeks it will me!

I'VE JUST GOT MY SCAN DATE (sorry for those who haven't yet) its the 24th May, I'll be 12 weeks exactly. Yippee!

Dundee and chickpea, that's shocking!I assume there was no botox injections involved, that would be the only thing dangerous right?! Go to a different salon, and stay there, that's the most ridiculous thing i ever heard. On a similar note, someone mentioned hair highlights before, I was going to get mine done soon but now will put off if 16 weeks is the norm. AND then I found out my lovely hairdresser who I've been with for 7 yrs is expecting her first and we're due ON THE SAME DAY! Wow, life's weird sometimes

Nics and Beckyspeckle welcome to the gang of Christmas sisters!!

Nics are you sure you're not me?! Apart from having my dd at 24 not 22 (and in less than good circs, no contact with dd's biodad, split up while pg) we're pretty much doing the same thing. Dp's first (much wanted) child, huge age gap (dd 8 in dec) So, yeah I'm pretty scared! 2000 was a looooong time ago now, I'm sure it'll come flooding back though, is your dd in year2 at school as well? Have you told her yet? However, I didn't have the shock of a 6 months in discovery, you must have been tiny!

Wow our similarities are strange. We are also not in touch with dd's biodad as we had split up before I'd even found out I was pregnant. Best really - I went through a bit of a rough time with him and am glad he's not been able to warp dd but enough of that...
Meg's in Year 3 - she'll be 8 in June. It's lovely to find someone in the same situation - I am truly loving mumsnet. I can see me doing absolutely jack all for the next 7 months except sitting on my rapidly expanding arse and chatting with you guys!
I need to get my roots done but only need to use shop bought dye - do you think that is ok? I'll consult my hairdresser friend.
Can't wait to get my scan date - we have to schlep around two labour wards to decide which one we want to handle the scans etc and are at weddings for the next two weekends so will have to wait ages and ages. Being patient is harder than not smoking and guzzling red wine.

Sorry Lizzer - just read your post again. I have told Megs - I told her and dp at the same time and both were so happy. We've been able to explain to her about trying not to tell too many people as well although I let her call my parents who live in spain so that released some of that pent up "I've got to tell someone"! She's like a mother hen in my mum's absence, it's very sweet.

LOL Nics, patience IS a virtue AND harder than giving up wine and fags for definite! You'll definintely get addicted to MN though! Curiouser and curiouser about our dd's, mine was a v v v bad relationship too and I agree wholeheartdly with the 'warping' bit...

Hair dye? Anyone know if you HAVE to wait 16 weeks?

Pecka, sorry just read your message, that's a relief you ony have to wait til monday.. Please please take it easy this weekend

We still haven't told dd yet. Its killing me!!!! Want to wait 4 weeks til scan but I'm just not sure we can hold out.

On the smell thing - I am now having shower no 3 today and even the smell from the tiles is knocking me sick - I scrubbed each and every one of them this morning and it still smells of rotten water....ARGHHH!!!!
Sorry I'll stop warbling on and on now.... sorry