The final December 2016 thread?

[StubbleTurnips]

Old thread was full, so I'm setting up grumpy corner over here

Good luck plump! I think I preferred my EMCS tbh, less time to think!

Bumble how you doing??

Although I the ELCS this time around was fine!

Thanks dartmoor I was reluctantly admitted to stay on the postnatal ward to be given Clexin Ibthink its called (blood thinners) to reduce possible blood clot, they'll try to get my chest scanned today to make sure there's no clot on my lungs. I so hope they can get me scanned and send me home today. Last night was so noisy with brand new babies on my ward crying through the night and new mums fretting about breast feeding with some less than sympathetic midwives barking at them for their technique.

I can't bear hospitals, can hardly eat because the smells make me feel ill.

Sorry moan moan :(

Sorry, I didn't mean any harm, I did day persevere if she can. I'm aware breast feeding is really hard and had my own battles with it, came close to bottle feeding in fact I now express and use a bottle so Daddy can bond too. I think it's special being able to make that milk though prob wouldn't say that when my boobs are engorged and leaking. I by no means consider bottle feeding to be a failure and think all if the pressure to great feed when mummy's are finding it hard is wrong.

Congrats, Rain that's wonderful news! How amazing you were so calm. Well done!

Thanks for the advice Dartmoor, it's hard with two when not used to it, isn't it! This night the baby woke up DD (we are all in the same room) and she was so cross and cried and was middy and wouldn't go back to sleep for three hours! At one point I had the baby lying with a poly nappy and soaked in puke on my belly and DD hysterically crying across my legs! DH tired to help but DD would not let him take her. Hoping things will normalise and get better!

Also, OMG, engorgment happening, so scared of getting mastitis as my boobs are rock hard and baby can't drink it all at all. Took a warm shower to try to loosen it up and express but still so sore!

Meant to say moody not middy and pooey not poly!

I wish my breasts were engorged!! Because of my low milk supply my milk never really came in and I haven't yet experienced any engorgement. 🙁 I cried the 1st time I gave formula as I really wanted to exclusively breastfeed but I really had no choice. My baby was starving, couldn't sleep as so hungry, wasn't gaining weight and we were both exhausted. I've tried all the supplements, I'm on domperidone and double pumping as much as possible but I just barely get any milk out! I still put him to breast for 45 mins every 3h so it's not the easy option, it just doesn't satisfy him! I hate all the pressure to breastfeed and the stigma attached to giving formula. It's made me feel so guilty for what I've had to do but it was either that or leave him starved!

baby trust me, I know what you're up against - I had a double reduction and never had full supply. With DD I sent myself into PND about breastfeeding.

Don't be too hard on yourself, it's bloody hard pwork - and the PP who said fed is best is right.

It took me months to realise that xx

Didn't think you meant it nastily rosie but it's a sensitive topic so thought I should say it's best to err on the side of caution with how you word things

Oh bumble that sounds rough hope you're home soon and all is ok

Bloody hell london what a night!! I find it amazing what DS can sleep through after 2yrs of basically shh'ing everyone once he'd gone to bed

I had friends who had the same thing dreaming ((hugs))

Had a shocking attempt to do some Christmas shopping in town, have come back to bed with both DSs to recuperate, they're both asleep, yay!

Updated list:

SunnySideDownUp - C-section booked for 25th November. Team blue.
ScottishGirlx - EDD 28th Nov. Team yellow.
Lucymoomoo - EDD 30th Nov. Team yellow.
Mrsthedog and husband Puppythedog - EDD 30th Nov. Team yellow.
Orchidnap - EDD 30th Nov - 1st Dec. Team yellow.
Honeymoon84 - EDD late Nov / Early Dec. Team yellow.
RenaissanceWren - EDD 1st Dec. Team yellow.
Sinead08 - EDD 1st Dec. Team yellow.
Babyinthacorner - EDD 2nd Dec. Team yellow.
Oddsockfairy - EDD 2nd Dec. Team yellow.
Fiddlesticks123 - EDD 3rd Dec. Team blue.
Devgal - EDD 3rd Dec. Team yellow.
SecretSquirrelsSecretFriend - EDD 3rd Dec. Team yellow.
HereWeGoAgain16 - EDD 3rd Dec. Team yellow.
Zazie7 - EDD 3rd Dec. Team yellow.
Pops1985 - EDD 4th Dec. Team yellow.
Birchygoo - EDD 4th Dec. Team yellow.
Simpsonsaddict - EDD 4th Dec. Team yellow.
Thisisbonkers - EDD 4th Dec. Team yellow.
VonnieS - EDD 4th Dec. Team blue.
Azure83 - EDD 5th Dec. Team blue.
ElectraJane84 - EDD 5th Dec. Team blue.
Tisilisa - EDD 5th Dec. Team yellow.
K2fatcat - EDD 6th Dec. Team yellow.
EllenDegenrate - EDD 6th Dec. Team yellow.
LittleBear01 - EDD 6th Dec. Team blue.
User1459543334 - EDD 7th Dec. Team yellow.
Excitedmummytob - EDD 7th Dec. Team yellow.
SaintExupery - EDD 7th Dec. Team yellow.
BowSurprise - EDD 7th Dec. Team yellow.
Sunnydays321 - EDD 7th Dec. Team yellow.
Littleblondie - EDD 7th Dec. Team pink.
Shopaholic85 - EDD 8th Dec. Team pink.
Rosa89 - EDD 8th Dec. Team yellow.
Babymaybe562 - EDD 8th Dec. Team yellow.
Hanste123 - EDD 8th Dec. Team yellow.
Pocketsized - EDD 9th Dec. Team yellow.
Lilydaisyrose - EDD 9th Dec. Team yellow.
Tinajayne1993 - EDD 9th Dec. Team yellow.
BabyBumpHopeful - EDD 10th Dec. Team yellow.
Kittyscot81 - EDD 10th Dec. Team blue.
Chookchick - EDD 10th Dec. Team yellow.
AlmondCinnamon - EDD 10th Dec. Team yellow.
Pearlman - EDD 10th Dec. Team yellow.
Insetwitticismhere - EDD 11th Dec. Team pink.
Hanna JH - EDD 11th Dec. Team yellow.
Minispringroll - EDD 11th Dec. Team blue.
BelleinLondon - EDD 12th Dec. Team yellow.
Cupcakesam84 - EDD 12th Dec. Team pink.
Romoca - EDD 12th Dec. Team yellow.
Englishgirl - EDD 12th Dec. Yeam yellow.
IslandLife - EDD 12th Dec. Team pink.
WyfOfBathe - EDD 13th Dec. Team pink.
Mistletoe1 - EDD 13th Dec. Team blue (probably)!
Littlejenfer - EDD 13th Dec. Team yellow.
Vb87 - EDD 14th Dec. Team yellow.
Majorlyscared1993 - EDD 14th Dec. Team yellow.
MangeToooot - EDD 15th Dec. Team yellow.
Youngoldmum - EDD 15th Dec. Team yellow.
Kajlo - EDD 15th Dec. Team yellow.
BristolLFR - EDD 15th Dec. Team yellow.
Underrugswept - EDD 16th Dec. Team yellow.
OrianaBanana - EDD 16th Dec. Team pink.
StubbleTurnips - EDD 16th Dec. Team blue.
Hanch99 - EDD 16th Dec. Team yellow.
Looseyloo411 - EDD 17th December. Team yellow.
Growingbeanno2 - EDD 17th Dec. Team yellow.
FluffyPickleMonster - EDD 17th Dec. Team yellow.
FlyingSpaghettiMOnster - EDD 18th Dec. Team yellow.
Jbailey149 - EDD 18th Dec. Team yellow.
Hannahcarpe27 - EDD 18th Dec. Team yellow.
Firawla - EDD 18th Dec. Team pink.
Stripeyorangesocks71 - EDD 18th Dec. Team blue.
MadeInWolves - EDD 18th Dec. Team yellow.
Sueevone - EDD 18th Dec. Team blue.
Wetpebbles - C-section booked for 18th Dec. Team pink.
PpaaWWss - EDD 19th Dec. Team yellow.
Angshore - EDD 19th Dec. Team yellow.
Ermmm - EDD 19th Dec. Team yellow.
JillyCooper2015 - EDD 20th Dec. Team yellow.
Lamington85 - EDD 20th Dec. Team yellow.
ButtonAndBows - EDD 20th Dec. Team yellow.
Flapjacklover - EDD 20th Dec. Team yellow.
Pacificlass - EDD 20th Dec. Team blue.
Grapefruit8 - EDD 20th Dec. Team yellow.
Bumbleclat - EDD 21st Dec. Team pink.
Stargirl84 - EDD 21st Dec. Team pink.
Mejse - EDD 22nd Dec. Team blue.
Roxy2307 - EDD 22nd Dec. Team yellow.
Helgathehairy - EDD 22nd Dec. Team pink.
SeashellHoarder - EDD 22nd Dec. Team pink.
PlumpAndPlain - EDD 23rd Dec. Team yellow.
Cnchapmanxx - EDD 23rd Dec. Team pink.
Hiccup223 - EDD 23rd Dec. Team yellow.
Mozfan1 - Edd 23rd Dec. Team yellow.
Frostysnowflake - EDD 24th Dec. Team yellow.
Yorkiedodah - EDD 24th Dec. Team yellow.
Appletree4 - EDD 24th Dec. Team yellow.
MumMclean - EDD 24th Dec. Team blue.
Weechops - EDD 25th Dec. Team pink.
Anewleaf - EDD 25th Dec. Team yellow.
Lucya87 - EDD 25th Dec. Team yellow.
Ruby12345 - EDD 25th Dec. Team yellow.
Oxlady - EDD 25th Dec. Team pink.
TinyTickler - EDD 25th Dec. Team yellow.
Nojo82 - EDD 25th Dec. Team blue.
Nataliefruit - EDD 25th Dec. Team blue.
Princesspinkgirl - EDD 25th Dec. Team yellow.
Veryfriendlylion - EDD 26th Dec. Team yellow.
SpaceDinosaur - EDD 26th Dec. Team yellow.
MrsG32 - EDD 28th Dec. Team yellow.
Flyawayblue - EDD 28th Dec. Team pink.
Sthldn1sttimer - EDD 28th Dec. Team yellow.
SylvanusWindrunner - EDD 29th Dec. Team yellow.
Shemozzle - EDD 29th Dec. Team yellow.
Newhairdontcare - EDD 29th Dec. Team yellow.
Tilleuls - EDD 29th Dec. Team yellow.
Firsttimer16 - EDD 29th Dec. Team blue.
MrsGardening - EDD 30th Dec. Team yellow.
Admarks - EDD 30th Dec. Team yellow.
Bella1985 - EDD 30th Dec. Team yellow.
PenguinePenguins - EDD 31st Dec. Team yellow.
Whatafrickennightmare - EDD 31st Dec. Team yellow.
Wilfrhodes - EDD 31st Dec. Team yellow.
Peanut2904 - EDD late December. Team yellow.
Tinklypoo - EDD 2nd Jan. Team pink.
ZylaB - EDD 3rd Jan (but Dec delivery planned). Team yellow.
Swancourt - EDD 3rd Jan. Team yellow.
LucySB123 - EDD early Jan (but Dec delivery expected). Team yellow.
Feefeefs - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
SaraAndThePea - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
Lemonade30 - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
Pockets123 - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
SquelchyFelch - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
PiccolaPixxie - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
OurGrowingFamily - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
Jayner182 - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
Rubixx - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
MrsG32 - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
Livvy79 - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
Newbie199 - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
Dueindecember2016 - EDD tbc. Team yellow.
ImYourMama - EDD tbc. EDD tbc. Team pink.

Congratulations on our arrivals:

NotAClue82 - Team pink and pink. TWINS!! Birth date TBC.
MrsRaymondReddington - Team pink birth date TBC.
Babydreaming - Team blue birth date TBC.
SolomonDaisy - Team pink born 21st October 2016.
SteffiMuse - Team blue and pink. TWINS!! Born 23rd October 2016.
Peanutbutter2409 - Team blue born 26th Oorn ctober 2016.
KitKat1985 - Team pink born 8th November 2016.
NurseRosie - Team blue born 13th November 2016.
AppleMagic - Team blue born 17th November 2016.
Queenc81 - Team pink born 17th November 2016.
Eskerina81 - Team blue born 19th November 2016.
SouthDownsSunshine - Team pink born 21st November 2016.
Christmasbaby16 - Team blue born 23rd November 2016.
MrsJoJo - Team blue born 25th November 2016.
Barkingtreefrog - Team pink born 26th November 2016.
Led2012 - Team blue born 28th November 2016.
Daisychain07 - Team blue born 29th November 2016.
TipBoov - Team pink born 29th November 2016.
Mrsfredweasley - Team pink born 30th November 2016.
Bumplovin - Team pink born 1st December 2016.
Theaks - Team pink born 1st December 2016.
Kippersandcurtains - Team pink born 1st December 2016.
Doubletrouble41 - Team pink and pink. TWINS!! Born 1st December 2016.
ElodieS - Team blue born 1st December 2016.
Kitch82 - Team blue born 2nd December 2016.
Bigfam - Team pink born 3rd December 2016.
TheDisillusionedAnarchist - Team blue born 4th December 2016.
Nightcap - Team blue born 5th December 2016.
DartmoorDoughnut - Team blue born 6th December 2016.
Livelyredjellybean - Team pink born 7th December 2016.
Brisgirl - Team pink born 7th December 2016.
Nuttypops - Team blue born 8th December 2016.
Goinggrey1978 - Team blue born 8th December 2016.
Jfw82 - Team blue born 9th December 2016.
Billabye - Team pink born 9th December 2016.
Duxb - Team pink born 9th December 2016.
Surf25 - Team blue and blue. TWINS!! Born 11th December 2016.
Thisisbonkers - Team blue born 12th December 2016.
Essybird - Team blue born 13th December 2016.
Popskipiekin - Team blue born 16th December 2016.
Londonmamabychance - Team blue born 17th December 2016.
Lovewatchingrainfall - Team blue born 18th December 2016.
Lovewatchingrainfall - Team pink born 19th December 2016.

Team totals: Team pink: 22. Team blue: 25.

Team blue in the lead for the first time!

Hi.

Congrats on all the new arrivals. Sorry to those stuck in grumpy corner.

Baby KitKat is now 6 weeks old. We're also struggling with getting her to settle in her moses basket. She's also had some trapped wind / colic issues recently so we're using infacol which I think is helping (wish it wasn't so bloody expensive though)!

Wow lots of arrivals now! Congratulations everyone

I'm still waiting here, I'm 40+2. Went for routine appointment with midwife yesterday and she thought baby could be breach, so had a scan this morning to check and baby is head down as we thought but best to get checked!

Congratulations on all the new arrivals!
I had a sweep yesterday at 38+1 but nothing to show for it, booked in for induction on xmas eve! Baby had a slight dip in growth a few weeks ago but now back up to 50th centile, however consultant recommended induction as I am an older mum so slightly higher risk.
Hoping to be home on Christmas Day!
Regarding breastfeeding, I also had poor supply with my previous babies and felt a lot of pressure to persevere, especially with my first, which led to mild pnd, so with my last baby I combination fed, breast first and then a top up if needed. That was the best experience for me and I found no-one batted an eyelid. Much more relaxed mummy and happy well fed baby!

It is really hard and the pressure is phenomenal. I must say the support we've had professionally has been amazing but I think it's because they are so fixated on "breast is best". I fear our support may have been different if I'd bottle fed, the midwife and hv both did feeding support visits and I think I wouldn't have seen them otherwise which isn't fair at all.
I did a little syringe top up at the beginning which helped with the soreness.
I think the long list of does and don'ts is really daunting. Don't co sleep, don't give a dummy, only put water on their skin for 6 weeks, breast feed and don't introduce a bottle at all, don't swaddle. Many of these have been done for years and have some place. I know we'd have been in trouble without a dummy as lo comfort sucks and was making me sore. We will all find our way and what works for us. But I'm trying not to stress about it all and do what's needed (and kit tell the hv) x

Congratulations on any arrivals I've missed.

Have they managed to get you informed a scan bumble? Hope you're OK.
Romy's playing games, she settles and sleeps amazingly in the next2me during the day, but by about midnight she wants out! I ended up bringing her into the bed last night after I fell asleep twice whilst winding and feeding her, scared myself silly when I realised what I'd done.

*informed=in for
(sorry I'm so tired 😴)

Thanks bigfam scan results all clear so the heart palpitations, chest pains and breathlessness remain yet another pregnancy mystery.

They keep me in from 10 yesterday to just now when I was discharged. It was quite sweet being on a postnatal ward seeing all the new babies and hearing their little snuffles.

It was interesting hearing the MW supporting women with BFing. I've been so focussed on the birth I hadn't realised what a bloody slog the whole breast feeding thing was

Rant about husband alert- just ignore

Feeling a bit unsettled because DH has been super star husband of the year since I've been pregnant and each day he does so much to help me and the house run smoothly but since I went on Maternity leave a couple of weeks ago, I've been really trying to stay on top of the housework so that when baby arrives, it's a nice clean environment and he seems to have taken a back seat thinking its okay to go off to work and leave the rotting washing up pile from last night's dinner (I cooked) for me to do

Anyway after a whole weekend of cooking every meal, DH hadn't washed up and when I got back from the hospital tonight, every single cup, plate, bowl, knife, fork, glass were rotting on the side board, the bin was full to the brim and stank and it was just such a horrible thing to come home to. As I wash it all up and cleaned the sideboards, I became increasingly annoyed.

I called him on it and he said that he's been visiting me in hospital all day so couldn't do it despite the fact it started on Friday and he had all weekend off. (definitely could have done it last night, or the weekend or this morning)

I told him that I really wanted us to be grown ups about the house work and wash up every night as soon as we've eaten (we have an; 'I cook, you wash up' arrangement)

He went all furious and said that he obviously does "fuck all then" which is definitely NOT what I said arggggghhhh!

Thing is, he's my hypnobirth partner and I don't want us to be all shirty with each other when Im so close to giving birth- I need him and this vulnerability makes me feel sad but therefore angry somehow.

God I just want to fast forward 2 months. :(

bumble i had all of those symptoms at 24/25 weeks. They kept me in for a week, i had a chest x ray, leg scans, vq scans and nothing. Outpatients i had echo and 24hr heart monitor. Was nearly admitted again after that about 6 weeks ago. Ecg and another chest x-ray. Still suffering with palpitations. Seems like its just another pregnancy thing. But its horrible..

Bumble I'm pleased you are well enough to come home but understand your frustration with DH. My DH can be lazy /messy as well as times and it drives me bonkers!

Just had our 6 week health visitor check. She's a nice enough lady but not very helpful. I at least thought she was going to weigh her but she didn't. Just briefly asked how we were and gave us some reading books and advice on joining the library (at 6 weeks?!) and some leaflets on weaning (again, a bit early at 6 weeks, and to be honest I've done it before with DD1 so probably won't even look at them). After 10 minutes she left again!

Also my wages went in today and they're shockingly low. I phoned payroll who said I don't get statutory maternity pay yet even though I've been on mat leave for a month now (?). I think they're wrong but I can't really see what they've done until they send me a 12 month breakdown of my maternity wages.

Congratulations to all the arrivals and commiserations to those in the grumpy corner. Have been a bit slow to update but our little boy arrived early on 11 December with a very quick labour, especially at the end. We've settled on well back at home but I'm totally disorganized for Xmas. Think it's going to be ready meals all round!

Still waiting...41+3. Induction on Friday is looking more and more likely. It might actually be quite nice to calmly go to hospital instead of having to rush there in a mad dash.
My cold has turned rather horrid and I've spent the last two nights sleeping on the sofa...and most of the days this week, too. (I get really annoyed in bed for some reason...) I think my body might be holding on to the little one until I'm feeling better...or at least don't wake up in the middle of the night with a coughing fit, unable to breathe. He was a little quiet two days ago but is now continuing to have a party inside me. Pains come and go and I'm just really uncomfortable.

Congratulations to all the new arrivals! I've pitched my tent up in grumpy corner for now. Had a sweep today as it is my due date so fingers crossed!

I'm right there with you Minispringroll - 41+5 now and so fed up its unreal. HB plans rapidly going out of the window and I'll be induced at hospital on Friday if no baby by then. I can't believe it's now 21st and I was due on 9th - I really have been pregnant forever.

I hope the sweep gets things moving stargirl
Here's a (very) rare picture of baby Romy actually awake and having a good old goggle at everything around her

Wish I could have had a sweep on my due date! Still no sign here.

Romy is lovely bigfam