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Hi everyone, new thread...apologies for sorry attempt at poetry

Hi all

Good to hear from you Daisybump. Things must be really stressful for you at the moment with everything being up in the air. Go for the cat, it'll be theraputic, the only thing is would it be better to wait until the baby is born? I seem to remember cats being funny about babies and pg women. Though if you get it now it would give it time to settle in. Not sure. It'll be fab whatever you get anyway. I'm just at my mums at the moment and she has two young cats, but one of them is a runt and hasn't really grown much past the kitten stage and is a bit stoopid but the loveliest cat in the world. But I keep saying to my mum 'do you think you should get a cat net before the baby comes' or 'do you think they'll be ok with the baby'? She just gives me that 'I have done this 3 times before' look!

Newsflash for Doggus btw, just wanted to let you knwo that I am reading this months Eve magazine (I know, I'm 25 I should still be reading Cosmo - but I love Eve) and reading 'the harassed mother's guide to glamour' and they say 'An oh so soft tracksuit in velour or cashmere with a vest is as cosy as PJs with quick access when breastfeeding. Plus it's glam enough to venture out in'

See - you are way ahead of the fashion game!

Hi Daisy, sorry, missed your last post as I was typing my long monlogue as usual! I think is a possitive step that he is being proactive about the counselling. It must be pretty difficult to resolve stuff if you only see him at weekend. Even with all my training in training in psychology I'm a bit dubious of counselling too, well at least I've never enjoyed it. But I guess it more the point that you will be setting aside time for yourselves to deal with your problems. Hope it all goes well for you anyway

hi bumper....I think I'll def get the cat before the baby (nature willing that is!!). I've always had cats, and even have several photos of me BF Cameron with the cat sat at his side on the pillow!!! There are lots of old wives tales about them smothering babies as they smell the milk etc, and they are curious and will try to jump in cots etc, but I think that's nothing that a good old bit of aversion therapy won't cure think it'll be good for DS as its all baby baby baby at the minute and this can be something for him. I caught him trying to dig Bruce up to see how he was last week, which isn't altogether healthy considering the cat died in October (yuk face) so it'll take his mind off that too.
I'm still eyeing up the weekend bag too

and a ps on labour.......I had a horrible one the last time (even though I thought the drugs were top class ) and ended up with an emergency c-section after trying to push him out for over five hours. Hoping to try for a natural birth this time and will be avoiding any intervention/epidural at all costs, cos I've read that this will dramatically increase my chances of needing another c-section. Just remember, first timers, that no matter how bad it is, it doesn't last forever, and once that wee soul is placed in your arms, everything else just fades into insignificance. You definately won't forget the pain (that is definately an old wives tale, put about, I'm sure, to ensure the furtherance of our species) but if it was that bad women would definately stop at one!!

Wow Daisy- get the cat!! I'm sooo jealous ! A British Blue would be my first choice too and British Shorthairs are such good natured cats, so cuddly! Glad you and your H are on track. At least him suggesting a counsellor shows he is really sorry and not just saying it. Hope things get better for you x P.S. you def deserve the bag as well!!

Just got some baby bedding I bought from ebay the other day. It's lovely! Mamas & Papas Bebe Bleu bumper, quilt and pillowcase. I'm thinking as it is quite nautical looking (pale blue and white gingham and stripes) that it would go extremely well with the Cath Kidston boat fabric! Mmmm...I can see myself getting carried away here!

Cat and handbag.

I loved Eve's Glamour Guide for Harassed Mothers. In fact, I bought the mag on the strength of the article on the cover. I thought it was hilarious. Haven't read the whole thread, but Doggus PLEASE tell me you would spend £300 on a velour tracksuit whilst breastfeeding! Its madness! I thought she was the worst example of harassed motherhood EVER, and not a mention of Primarni in the entire piece.

Daisy - all sounds positive. Never heard of a man suggesting counselling, think this shows he is taking it very seriously. Whatever happens you'll know you've done everything you can.

Kids are starving after swimming, best go attend to their needs. LOL xx

Er, that's meant to be WOULDN'T spend £300 on a velour tracksuit.

What must you think of me???!!

One last thing, does anyone else feel like a great lumbering whale? Yesterday morning I felt fantastic, energetic and fit. By the end of the day I was short of breath, waddling and felt just GIGANTIC. Still feel enormous. Bit early isn't it, at 23 weeks?

There was a funny thread here about that Eve article

Daisy, go girl! Cat and a bag! Horray! More seriously, maybe your last experience with counselling was just down to that particular counsellor and a different one with H maybe suit you better. I hope it does. Good luck chick

Beached whale? Yep! Thats me have been saying to DH today I just feel I look fat and not prg. I do feel huge and like you foxy I'm 23 weeks! I have had to mention that I am prg to some people cos they just don't seem to notice! Do they think I look like this all the time? DH has been telling me that its just cos of being tall bump is more stretched than on a petite woman. Hope he is right

I feel that of someone was to stick a pin in my belly it would burst all over the place. Sick fed up of people telling me/commenting on how huge I am, especially as I've only gained about 10-11 lbs, have lost weight from my face/arms/thighs (but not knees ) and I thought my bump looked rather neat and tidy....it's just that it's all sticking out front. Thankfully though, I've got a very deep innie belly button and it hasn't popped out (it didn't with DS either) so fingers crossed on that score. Looked at a photo taken about a day before DS was born...I've got a long ways to go and this bump is nothing by comparison.
Back to work on Monday and dreading it as i'll be lying about the reason for being off...and the work will have piled up in my absence, but as the H said...'you're only there for another four weeks' hee hee. Have decided that I'm not going back there regardless of how long I take off....need to find a job which is less stressful, more flexible and doesn't have any travelling involved (not looking for much really)...lots of time to look for one I suppose. I would really like to start my own business, either a deli or a knitting shop, so might look into those options too and how I can get start-up grants etc etc. It's going to be a busy last trimester what with all the decorating to finish and babt shopping to do!!

Daisy, agree with Seansgirl that maybe counselling will help you put things in perspective, it's good that your H suggested it and should be worth trying at least.

I definitely felt like a whale today when I realised I was walking slower than my 2 1/2 year old DD . Normally I'm a speed-walker. Re the belly button btw, I'm looking forward to giving mine a good clean out , but I think it'll be a while yet.

Off to the animal shelter tomorrow with DS to check out potential new cats.....not sure they'll let us adopt one as we live off a busy road and they have this rule about not living closer than 150yds from a busy road. H paced it out as nearer to 75 (see he does want another cat really.....) Most of them do home visits as well to make sure your house is appropriate....i know they want to make sure animals that may well have been mistreated in the past are looked after, but it all seems a bit harsh, especially if we aren't allowed to adopt one. H has convinced me that £300 is too much money for a cat, especially as there are so many unwanted moggies out there, but if adoption falls through...the back up plan of pedigree British Blue will come into force...
we've both been busy today so not had a lot of time to chat, but he's basically dealt with DS all day as well as sanding and waxing the floor in our new bedroom (it looks scrummy) and made tea (egg and chips, not exactly a la carte, but delicious nonetheless) He's now putting DS to bed so that we can have some 'us' time to chat some more. Feeling a lot more positive after having had a DS free day to sort out my thoughts and feelings. Thanks for listening all of you .
Off to catch the end of Comic Relief does Fame Academy now.....how

Glad you had a good day Daisy. Your H is certainly working hard to make things up to you!

I'm feeling really fat today. Maybe that's coz I had a big breakfast- eggs and tomatoes on toast plus a Time Out (you can't beat chocolate for breakfast, mmmm!), three slices of brie on toast for lunch and yummy homemade veggie lasagne (I ate half of it, it was huge) for tea followed by Rolo ice cream!! I'm such a pig! He he !! Seriously though I'm starting to get to the waddling stage and it's not pretty! Maybe I should cut down on the food. Or not. I'm trying to wear quite tight clothes so people can see I'm pg and not just morbidly obese (I'm with you on the being tall thing seansgirl, it's def more spread out)! Oh well who cares, not me! What the point of being pg if you can't eat loads of crap?

Going to watch Project Catwalk now coz missed it on Mon, love that show!! Also watched Fame Academy Daisy, you're not the only saddo here!

Daisy I hope you found a beautiful cat. Really glad that things seem to be more positive with H.

I'm definitely feeling rather rotund - the problem is that in my mind I still have my pre-pg figure and every now and then I catch sight of myself and . I'm still finding it hard to come to terms with putting on 9kg already

Enjoy your weekends.

Daisy - glad things are improving for you, I love all cats whether moggies or not, but dh is allergic. I have very nearly been accused of catnapping as I am so mad I stop the car when I see a cat, get out and fuss it. When i was a baby my mum had cats, never a problem. LOL at trying to dig up poor Bruce though!

Bumper and foxy - I have bought Eve specially. It's good to know that I am so far out of fashion I am back in again! However I was thinking more of H&M for £30....or the rate I am going, Evans.

Hi guys,

So weekend didn't turn out to be quite as good as I'd hoped . DH was out all day Sat playing golf and tennis so I got in a bit of shopping which was nice, but then all went a bit down hill at dinner with friends... DH (and everyone else apart from me) got drunk, was all kind of okay, but by midnight I was knackered and he just kept dismissing my pleas to go home. Then, at 1am when I was ready to burst into tears/fall asleep ono the table, I did my big smiley number, standing up and trying to cajole him; he told me to 'get off his case' in front of everyone. I was just so embarrassed and upset. Outside (finally), I told him he didn't have to be quite so shitty; he then walked off in a huff and we didn't talk all the way home. Have barely talked all day today, too - I keep wanting to have it out with him (who knows, he was so drunk he may not even remember what he said), but he hasn't asked me what's wrong; he's acting like I'm being over dramatic. I know I could be the mature one and start the conversation, but I don't see why I should. I'm angry, and I'm upset and it's like he can't be bothered finding out why. I keep trying to go over the evening, seeing if I was hormonal/overreacting, but every whcih way I look at it, I'm nigh on six months' pregnant and I just expect more of him. If I'd have insisted on going home at 10pm, that would be one thing, but 1am? The trouble is, we've always been very independent - that's one of the things we like about each other, that we have our own minds, our own friends etc; we're much more comfortable teasing each other than gazing into each other's eyes. But he doesn't seem to realise that things are changing. That I need him a bit more. That in three months' time, everything is going to be really different.
Or maybe he does realise that, and he's making up for it now?
Sorry for the ramble. I just really hate this. We have so little time together and days spent like this feel like such a waste, so stupid and pointless. And yet here I am upstairs, telling you guys why I'm upset, while he's downstairs watching football.

Marylou - I so sympathise. I was out last Sunday for 'lunch' with dh and four friends, when it got to 4.30pm (12.30pm start) I said I wanted to go, dh protested. When I next walked back into the kitchen at 5.30pm, the men had opened another bottle of wine, dh was tucking in, and I just grabbed him and said - 'We're going'. One of the other men then gave me a lecture about 'male freedom' and 'you're pregnant, not ill',etc etc. On the way home I realised dh was completely pissed and he went to bed for four hours. He was apologetic when he woke (and sober) so I am putting it down to booze. Maybe Mr Marylou will apologise when the footie is over, maybe you should go down and have it out with him - I don't know. But I just wanted to say you are not alone in your dh being unthinking and not taking on board you are knackered and pregnant.

Yes, unfortunately my dp is the same. When there's booze around he has no consideration at all!! We went to one of his friend's (whose partner is also pregnant) houses a couple of weeks ago for dinner and drinks. Because I don't drive we had to stay the night there. It was a nightmare. The two boys drank two crates of Becks and could barely see by midnight, whilst us two pg girls sat there looking bored and getting more and more pissed off. I had never met his friend's partner before and it was lucky we got on! We didn't get to bed til gone one and dp was so drunk he snored really loudly and I got no sleep at all. You can imagine how popular he was the next day! I felt like killing him [anger]!! I have sympathy for you marylou and doggus, I know how you feel. Men ! If only they could be pg for just one day !

Poor you MaryLou - have it out with him when you're not so angry - if you do it now you'll just end up having a huge row and starting the week on a really bad footing. Big hugs .

Has anyone seen the Vertbaudet website? Their clothes are really cheap - are they ok quality? Am thinking of buying a few things...

that bl**dy phrase "you're pregnant not ill" FFS! can only come from men! I know someone that throws that at me and it really really annoys me. They have NO idea what-so-ever do they? I would have been exactly the same by 1pm - I think that is well beyond the call of duty. Marylou, you are so completely not being unreasonable. Perhaps I am a haradon/scary/miserable or just downright lucky DH has dramatically cut down the booze in sympathy. He doesn't seem to find it a problem as in recent years gone off drinking much anyway as doesn't like the hang overs. But I must admit I will come up with just about anything to get out of a situation where I think everyone else is going to get pissed, its just not the same when you can't join in, feeling very fat and tired is it? Or am I just selfish?
probably. Though have been lucky that DH has been on call a lot since November so can't drink then anyway.

Had a bit of a spat with DH myself this weekend about bf/bottle I bf DD for 9 months and for various reasons not sure what I am going to do this time had thought a start of bfing and quickly change to mixed. But undecided. Today was the first time mentioned it to DH. Well, talk about tight lipped! He was annoyed as I hadn't discussed etc (and obviously thinks bfing is best) and said to me "bfing isn't that difficult" Steam came from my ears! How the hell does he know? I came out with "But its me thats got to do it/ and its my body, ect..." Oh well! Just have to see what happens but am determined it won't be solely bfing for 9 months.

Anyway girls, am going to chill on sofa and watch - I don't know yet!

Annobal, have bought some Verbaudet stuff for DD. Majority of stuff is good. I do find the sizing a bit on the small side. Had a particularly lovely newborn outfit for DD with yellow giraffes on that was the best fit for her in early days when everything else swamped her! The bodysuit was very good as it was a crossover rather than over the head, much easier! Have found french clothes generally a bit small (MIl lives in France and sends stuff over) so have always gone up a size. If you buy any maternity let us know if its any good!

Am back upstairs on here as DH is watching one of my least favourite programmes: Top Gear. Its Clarkson that gets right up my nose.

But anyway just came back on MN to say have thought of magnificent way of describing how my tummy feels at moment - over inflated! And thats only at 23 weeks FGS! Just how many men could cope with this?

Marylou, i sympathise babe, had recent similar experience - it is SO shit being the pregnant sober one and all of a sudden WE become so unreasonable when we want to go home at 1am!!!!!
Anyway, my moan for today is that i have suddenly developed what i think is posterior pelvic pain (i am a nurse but not that smart - looked my symptoms up online!) MAN IT HURTS. feel like my left arse cheek has a screwdriver stuck in it - anyone experienced this?
Any physios around??
Serves me right for Bragging to my friends on Friday that i was sailing through pregnancy again

Seansgirl - Actually come to think of it the phrase 'you're pregnant, not ill' has ONLY ever been spoken to me by a man. The other time it happened the man directed it to dh, who was being very caring (ie sober) and getting me a chair. The next time it happens I am going to explode, and blame my hormones.

H&A - you are so right, it's the booze. There is also part of me that gets pissed off when dh gets drunk as I am jealous and feel left out, which doesn't put me in the greatest of moods anyway. However, it's still his fault....