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[notsolilKel]

Hi everyone, new thread...apologies for sorry attempt at poetry

Hello all, lovely day isn't it?

I know Bournemouth well too, spent my college years there (bit long ago now).

Bless your DS Daisy! These things have me blubbering at the best of times, at least with a bump we have an excuse!

My boys have had fat lips, black eyes, all sorts of things so I feel for you H&A! I always felt guilty (not that I caused them!!!) well, maybe one accident when I tipped DS2 out of the baby car seat onto the hard kitchen floor when he was 6 weeks old!

Glad it's not just me then....DH is seriously thinking that I'm a danger to myself, DS and the unborn baby and he should call social services!! He popped home unexpectedly last night so he could make it to DS assembly which was great as there didn't seem to be the same sort of pressure as we seem to be under at weekends. Things working themselves out and I am trying to put myself in his shoes...if I was exiled from the family for four days a week I wouldn't be very happy about it! Mind you, I only saw him for two hours then sent him out to the pub...Wednesday is lads night out and he's missed it since he started the new job. Communing with like-minded men is good for their souls...there's only so much explanation of drive shafts and gear ratios a girl can take without tearing her hair out

Bumperlicious, I hope you are trying to relax a bit...I've been really stressed and over-emotional as well as the rampant hormones (think of your worst bout of PMT then multiple it by 10) so know where you are coming from. My physio has been giving me regular back massages and I feel fab afterwards so go for a full on pampering session. Also, try not to worry about PND and the bonding...I know lots of people that had miserable pregnancies but would walk over hot coals for their LOs. PND, well if it happens it happens, and there are support mechanisms out there so it needn't be such an ordeal. Remember that he probability is that you will be fine, but if you feel even slightly iffy, talk to someone and don't bottle it up. I had PND after DS, but it didn't hit me till he was 6mo old as I'd been on my own with him and felt I just had to cope. I moved to my parents when he was 6mo and just caved in...not pleasant, but we got through it, and his dad was great (now my DH!). Take Care...I'll send you some of my wacky dreams to cheer you up!!

just on the back of what Daisy said, I think its worth mentioning that, IMO anyway, there's a significant difference between Baby Blues and PND, you may get one or the other or both. I think most new mums get a bout of BB just after giving birth, days or weeks into it. I think its more emotional or hormonal as opposed to the chemical imbalance of depression - though this is just my experience and I'd be keen to know your views.

So Bumper, I just wanted to say that to some extent expect the Baby Blues - but it is perfectly normal and passes. PND for me came later (DD was 6 months when I realised what it was).

H&A - would love to have a large cake sometime, the JL caff is great, no-one can see how much you eat if you go to all the separate sections!

Foxy - did you do a film course? I think Bournemouth is really first rate on all that media stuff and hospitality (I put hostility originally!).

Thank you, non-new mums, on the BB/PND advice. I for one did not realise PND can hit you well after the birth, something to watch for. At least GPs seem a bit more prepared for it nowadays. In my mum's day she was handed a large tub of valium which resulted in a nine year addiction and it's not as if Valium is an anti-depressant.

Like the Rolling Stones song....valium was called 'Mother's Little Helper' and it seems like it was standard issue for a while to mums who 'couldn't cope'. I was very wary about medication, but after a few or so months on the right dose of Prozac I was right as rain again. The one thing I didn't like about it was it left me feeling a bit emotionless and wheras I normally cry over the daftest things there was neither up nor down...just OK all the time, but I think it's what I needed at the time. At least they now know that its about chemical imbalances and not just because you are incapable/can't cope. My MIL had what I would now call PND after she had my DH and her doctor told her to pull herself together and did she think she was the only woman ever to have had a child and to not feel so sorry for herself. (DH's neck and gullet were damaged during what sounds like a very violent forceps delivery and my MIL had a very hard time dealing with the fact that he may be permanently disabled as he couldn't hold his head up until he was over a year old. He's fine now but was a very poorly child).

Anyway, on a cheerier note, apparently DS was the talk of the school after the assembly today, with the universal remark for the girlies being how cute he was and that they wanted to adopt him it makes me proud!!

Aaahh, daisybump, I hope I get one as cute as yours, how lovely. Bad story about your MIL, and dh's injuries, which reminds me - has anyone tried cranio-sacral therapy? I was reading Red magazine and it was recommended for all sorts of things including forceps deliveries and Caesarians (sp).

sound a bit too new age for me....what do they do??

Is that the same thing as cranial osteopathy? Seen lots of threads on here where people were recommending it for non sleeping babies etc.

Hi Daisybump, glad to hear things are looking more positive for you. I bet you're proud of your DS.

Evening all! Anyone else completely exhausted? Isn't this meant to be the time we feel most energised?

who knows what they are having?

Sadly, Doggus, nothing so glamorous as film - far too much like hard work required if I remember rightly. Was a more 'little as possible' student...

think i've overdone it today ... yawn

Foxy - I am knackered today, I got up late and went back to bed for an hour at 5pm. Same yesterday, too.

Cranial osteopathy is the same thing - it is about readjusting the spinal and brain fluid I think reading old threads. It might be a bit New Agey, and you don't have to take your clothes off,which I am suspicious of! How much good can be done while fully dressed......

Good napping doggus!! I love to nap, I sleep almost every day when dd does, it helps me get throught the day without biting someone's head off!! Isn't the JL cafe great? It has the best baby room in the world. I think topbods from other shops should go and look at it so they can copy it. It is so wonderful!! Let me know when you are next going to West Quay and we'll meet for caramel chocolate shortbreads!! Mmmm...!!

Yes foxy I'm exhausted too. I just wish my wonderful dd would stop getting up at 6.30!! I can't seem to get myself motivated to do anything. I've got a builder coming tonight to give us a quote for the kitchen and bathroom and I really need to do some cleaning and tidying. It's quite embarrasing!! BTW I'm having a boy!

Shit!! Looks like we missed out here !!

I found another one next week. Let's hope lilkel's back by then, it's in her neck of the woods! Hopefully dp will be working in London one of those days so I can go!

I may be wrong, but I thought the cranial osteopathy was for the babies, not their mums, so no taking off of clothes involved, presumably, unless you want to try and get a free session or something .
I think the theory goes that pushing the baby out squishes up their skulls, and if you have a cesarean that doesn't happen and can cause problems. But non cesarean babies can be helped too. I'm sure someone on here must know more than me though.

Sorry Doggus, misread that, you WANT to take your clothes off Well if you insist, but I think it's a head massage

Oh and while we're on the subject of bargain hunting, Picchu maternity, who basically do slightly cheaper knock-offs of Isabella Oliver stuff, are selling off a load of stuff on e-bay here if anyone's interested.

Cranial osteopathy is a way of re-alining the baby's skull plates, that's the way I understand it anyway. My parents' next door neighbour is an osteopath and she recommended that my dd have some as she was a cranky little baby. Apparently it really helps to soothe babies that cry a lot because it relieves the tension in the head cause by birth. We didn't do it in the end, but if no. 2 is the same I would prob go for it.

Oh, it's for the BABY (doh). So the therapist would have been slightly perturbed if I had stripped off and asked him to massage me...I had some idea that rubbing my head would take away the dreadful pain in my arse region, but there's no such thing as a free lunch. I am off to the physio next week as a mainstream alternative.

TMI alert - I have the most terrible wind. Before we slept dh counted six farts in ten minutes, I then woke myself up in a panic twice in the night by farting, I thought the roof was coming down! I have spent my married life taking the piss out of dh for his wind, and now the tables are truly turned.

Is anyone out there.....had a really bad night last night...fell asleep on the sofa (again) and when I dragged myself to bed at midnight I couldn't sleep and then it sounded like there was someone prowling around outside. Nodded off at 1:30, only to be woken by DS at 2:30, than again at 4:00 and he finally decided it was getting up time at 6:30...yawn...and I'm trying to re-do an existing drainage scheme which has meant watching CCTV of other peoples poo floating away (or not) down some badly damaged drains (I just love this job!!) Still, only the afternoon to go and then its only 15 more working days to go (well 14 as I still have a days holiday to take before the end of March)

Having a bit of a travel dilemma...it's my nephews 21st birthday on 19 May and there is to be a big family party in my home town near Edinburgh. It's only three weeks from my due date so DH worried about the travelling, but I don't want to miss it as we are a very close family (even though I'll be the size of a small house and will have nothing to wear). They do have a maternity hospital there (Gordon Brown's 1st daughter was born there, and Gordon Brown himself I think) where me and all my family have been born, so its not like its in the wilds of nowhere.....should I go or should I stay?

PMSL at your wind doggus....I had a similar thing going on a few weeks ago and I blame the constipation. Been drinking buckets of water through the day which means that I do very nearly PMS when I stand up and bubba bounces on the ole bladder, but it has helped with the constipation and the wind!!

Sorry you had a bad night daisy ! Make sure you have a nap later! Also nice job!! Hope it pays well !
I would go and see your family. It'll def make you feel better and if you do have the baby there then at least you'll have your family all round you.

I too am having some "digestive problems" ! The other day I'm sure the baby was dancing on my intestines coz every time he moved I had to poo or fart! He must have been pushing it out! Sorry, that really was TMI {blush}{grin}!!

Aaaarrghhhhh!! Me and my bloody smileys!! I meant !! I'm a loser!!

I get that too H and A...very annoying.....and it also feels like bubba is jumping up and down on my cervix a lot (a very odd sensation indeed) so I guess she is still feet first at the moment. Also getting a lot of headbutting under my ribcage on the rhs which hurts like hell.

I can't wait til the baby turns and it starts kicking me in the ribs!!

I remeber that with DS my heartburn and indigestion got much worse after he turned head down...not had much of it at all this time around...it's a trade off between which end is more comfortable isn't it...bless their little cotton socks!!