Due in June: roses are red, violets are blue, we're all getting huge, roll on June!

[notsolilKel]

Hi everyone, new thread...apologies for sorry attempt at poetry

Welcome back My2cents, was wondering where you'd got to. Sorry to hear about this virus of yours, hope you can get it sorted soon. As far as I'm concerned being pg is a total drag, and I have had very easy ones both times so far. Hang in there, it'll be worth it

Hi all

Daisy bump, think yourself lucky, I've been in pregnancy pants since Christmas! Instead of my usual 10-12 Primark finest I'm now well and truly in size 16-18 - just for comfort you understand. DH keeps telling me it's ok, I'm pregnant, but I'm pregnant in my belly not my thighs! I've put on nearly a stone already. It's totally down to what I'm eating and lack of exercise. I used to be so careful, and was pretty active but now I just can't stop myself eating (especially since MS kicked in again grrr!) and exercise? The most I can manage is yoga and that makes me feel like a creaky old women! I'm so sick of people telling me about someone they knew who ran every day until they gave birth, or how it's not an illness I should be doing everything I was doing before! Firstly anyone who says it's not an illness hasn't had to battle with the bus to work with morning sickness! And secondly everytime I run for the bus I practically want to pass out when I used to be able to run 4 miles!
While I'm on a rant (that's the joys of the internet no-one can stop you!) I'll tell you what else bugs me, people who already have children being supercilious and judgemental. Ok, going to put this in a new message, culd be long...

...anyway, yesterday I was talking to a women at work in a meeting, didn't know her, and was talking about pregnancy and how LO moves los before I go to sleep and she said that'll probably be when the baby wakes up in the night when it's born. So I was saying how I planned to do something a friend of a friend did and that was do the evening feed herself, and let DH who stays up later do the feed around 12, 1 or 2 or whatever time that feed so she can sleep before the early morning feed, that way both get to have a reasonable night's sleep, and she just rolled her eyes at me and said "yeah, let me know how that goes" really sarcastically. How rude! And it's not just that, but when I talk about other stuff like real nappies, or feeding etc., everyone just goes "yeah, well we'll see how you really are in a few months time all that will go out the window". Firstly, how the heck do they know? I might be a brilliant mum, secondly why p*ss on my firework, why not just let me have my ideals ? Even if it doesn't go the way I want, saying I told you so is not going to make me feel better.
Am I just being too insensitive? Or am I right to have ideals? After all, we've got to start somewhere, at least I'm a little prepared. Tell me to shut up if you like! (but I might cry!)

Bumperlicious, that woman sounds a bit out of order, especially if she didn't actually know you. Just ignore these people, you'll find you'll get loads of usolicited advice and comments, and it only get's worse after they're born I'm afraid. Then it'll be "are they doing xyz yet". Try not to take these things personally, I always tried to be vague as possible. Anyway, here's my piece of unsolicited advice for you - just follow your instincts and stay true to your ideals without being a martyr to them. With real nappies for instance, I didn't use them from the word go but got into them later when things felt more under control. But everyone is different.

Also totally with you on the exercise front, it's impossible really to continue as before - I've been trying. Sometimes I have good week, but more often I'm just totally knackered and even going up a short hill makes me feel like a breathless old lady. My weight has rocketed too as a result. I work from home and have a pretty easy time really, can't imagine how it must be keeping up with a full time job, office, commute etc etc. Give yourself a break, the jogging through pg mums are an urban myth imo, or at the very least the lucky exceptions.

Hello everybody!

I had my 20 week scan yesterday, the baby is fine, 'very very active', and an average size. I have finally realised that the weird fluttery sensations aren't wind! The bub is standing on my bladder in a breech position so it explains why i am literally weeing every 15 minutes.

You think you're big - like you, bumper, I am in size 18 pants (normally 14 and have been since 12 weeks). But the killer blow came today - in M&S a lady stopped me and said 'not long to go then, any day now', pointing at my bump. I was so shocked I blurted 'Just the four and a half months'. . Don't know which of us was most mortified.

OMG bumper I really hope that woman is talking cobblers as my bump is most active at 1am, 3am, 4am and 6am. It kips through the day entirely. Great.

She is talking cobblers. When you're awake and moving they're lulled to sleep in there, when you're still they wake up. Bears no relation to what they do when they're born ime.

Sputnik, that makes sense - thank you, I can sleep easy now!

Doggus..my bean is also bouncing up and down on my bladder regularly and also my cervix, which is quite disconcerting....
Feeling really huge, we dug out the pic of me at the hospital the night before DS was born...and believe me this is nothing. Looking at that pic, I'm a mere sylph at the moment by comparison...oh happy days ahead
Sputnik...thanks for that on essential oils...that's a big help.
H&A...thanks for all thhose links...we'll now be buried under a heap of junk mail, but freebies sure beats all the bills every time!
Seansgirl...not an engineer, a packaging tachnologist who has a keen eye for design, but only if it is cheap...he thinks its all part of the challenge, but I think it's just a side effect of working for a large supermarket chain for many years, as they are reknowned for penny pinching.
Anyway...you lot are so addictive that I'm doing this 'illegally' whilst at work. The boss will be in soon so I'd better jump to it...you can tell I'm on the wind down...only seven weeks to go wey hey !!
Phew, think that answered everyone...but a quick ps to Doggus...did you find out the sex?

And another ps....my DH keot me awake all night for the last three months, and was sleeping six hours at night from 2 weeks and all night from 8 weeks so it's just an old wives tale. But, all bubs are different...so who knows. I'm sure I wont be so lucky this time around

Doggus, Ah! the joys of free speech of older women that have been there and done that!

A woman at the school gates said to my DM when 41 weeks prg with her third and looking like a weeble in a huge red cloak (was the 70s!!) "So what did you have then?" DM was very and still talks about it now!

This prg for me one woman in a shop when I was about 14 weeks in a big winter coat said when DD blurted out "My mums having a baby" "Thought there was a big bump in there!" and then just last saturday when showing a woman round my house and talking about keeping stuff for the next one said to me "Well, you never know you might have another at some point!" DH pi**ed himself as I was standing there in a tight t-shirt full stretched over bump that has 'Does my BUMP look big in this?' across it! Does she think I always look like this?

Having said that have been asked when not prg when DD was about 18 months if I was prg again, I was in swimming costume at time!

Mmmm...not sure how much weight I've put on because I never weigh myself, so I didn't know what I weighed before!! After dd was born I was a size 16 for ages (10-12 before!), managed to get down to a 14 before becoming pg again. This time I'm determined not to put on so much weight because it's so difficult to lose it afterwards. I found that I lost a lot of weight when I stopped bfing, which completely contradicts what everyone says!! Not going to be anal about it though because I'm so hungry all the time, I try to eat good pasta, salad, veg type stuff, but I need chocolate too! I say if you're hungry then eat! Today I will mostly be eating pancakes, mmmm!!

Does anyone else have terrible trouble sleeping? I woke up at 3 this morning needing the loo, so I got up, went, and came back to bed. I then couldn't get back to sleep again til about 6, grrrrr. Maybe it's coz my bathroom is about 80 miles away from my bedroom (we live in an old house so the bathroom is downstairs and right at the back of the house) and the long trip wakes me up too much. I'm sooo tired.

Daisy- trust me, you won't get junk mail from these people, just loads and loads of lovely vouchers, I get some about once a week!! Dp calls me a pikey coz everytime I go in a shop I get my wad of vouchers out!! He gets really embarrased!
Doggus- glad your scan was ok. I wish people would keep their bloody noses out and keep their unhelpful comments to themselves. I find it's always the old ladies in M&S that find they need to comment on your size, they don't have lives of their own so feel the need to comment on yours. Worse of all is when they come up and touch your bump! It's so rude.
Lilkel- if you go into your local Argos they should be able to donate a box to you for your buggy. They are only to happy to get rid of them. I used to buy and sell stuff on ebay all the time and always used to use Argos for my boxes.

Wow what a long post! Sorry for going on so!

H&A, totally with you on the sleeping. I can't even blame it on my bean (he's active all day whenever I'm stationary - at my computer, watching tv, eating etc - but at night he calms right down.) I just find that I need the loo at least three times and then I lie there trying to will myself back to sleep but I find it so hard to get comfortable. I've got pillows and cushions but I always end up achy. Luckily bought new bed when got pregnant - it's huge, so at least I'm not waking up DH with all my tossing and turning. Actually my hearbeat keeps me awake sometimes - I can feel it pounding down my body. Very strange.
Sorry to hear about MS and annoying people, Bump. I had someone ask DH a couple of weeks ago when I was due (she was a skinny shop assistant), and she looked totaly freaked out when he said 'June'. Personally I really don't care though - I know people are going to stick their noses in as much as they can and I'm just determined not to let them/to ignore them (thankfully DH has same approach). I think that's all you can do - get on with things the best you can and don't listen to anyone unless they're telling you how fabulous you are (okay, so doesn't happen that often, but you can always tell yourself ).

Yes marylou we ARE all fabulous - this is hard work!!
I've not slept through the night since october, wake up to go to the loo then sneeze four or five times , by which time am well and truly awake and so is dp....poor guy. So glad am not the only one with bladder the size of a peanut, does anyone else go from being slightly needy to gonnapissmyselfrightnow!!!!! ? Always seems to be when in shops or on the motorway...
Just don't think there's enough room in there for uterus, baby, lungs and stomach! Has'nt stopped me putting on nearly two- yes two STONE, sorry as have mentioned this before, I do usually eat what I like just can't do the excersise like before.... glad I'm not alone........

just remembered a chat with ex colleague about birth and bfing...She said she did'nt know what the fuss was about as had hers at home in an hour and a half with no drugs - reckoned was because she did so much walking (?!)- then another mum, talking about bfing said she thought if more women knew it was gonna hurt before hand they might ask for help, be prepared etc, first lady pipes up 'but it does'nt hurt, it's really easy! '
hmmmmmmmmmmm....
I would never comment on someones size as I once asked a friends girlfriend when it was due and she was'nt pregnant, the SHAME! never never again. weird how people try to touch you, is lower tummy and almost very private place after all! keep finding my self swerving away from them, sitting down or hiding benind dp...

Apparently our uteruses are getting on for the size of basketballs...so next time anyone comments, remind them of this fact and ask how they think they'd look with a uterus that size ! Only comment I've had so far is 'my you're getting big' and only one person has touched my bump, but she's from Malaysia, so maybe it's acceptable there, I don't know. I think I give off definate 'don't touch' vibes as I didn't have a problem with DS either. You could always get a t-shirt printed saying {in bronx accent} "You toucha my bump, I smasha your face"
On the sleeping....DH is away three nights a week at the moment ( or , I'm just not sure) and I don't have a problem sleeping when I'm in the bed on my own, although I must roll over loads cos I'm cocooned in the duvet in the morning. I do wake up at 5:30 desperate for the loo, and as we have to get up at 6:15 there usually isn't any point getting back to sleep.Thinking of banishing DH to the spare room...but first I'd have to sort out the mountain of laundry heaped on the sofa bed...so maybe not.

Definately eating for two today....had cereal with sultanas for breakfast, then crackers and banana with apple at 10:00, then big pile of five bean salad at 11:30, and have now just polished off some pesto pasta with ham and veg and am seriously thinking about putting away a Mars Bar too. Definately think that after 20 weeks of not being able to eat anything, I'm making up for lost time. That 8lbs will soon be a distant memory

Daisybump, DH actually has taken himself of to the spare room a couple of times, but usually for my sake if he has to get up for work early and I have been so tired nearing hysteria! Butt like you it's not a regular occurrence because of the mountain of laundry! Glad it's not just me, but if I can't keep it under control with the just the two of us goodness knows how I'll manage with a baby! I'm such a house slut! Not because I don't care, I hate mess, but usually my laziness outweighs my horror at the state of my flat!

ahhh the company of other pg women....it's tough being out in the non-pg world. I remember when I was pg with DS how I was told to keep it to myself at work and def not tell any of my clients (I had a client-facing job, meeting them is what I did all week ). It was so repressive I actually got depressed over it. Silly people just don't understand what it's like for us, I don't think they realise how hard it is! As for running up till the day of birth, complete horsesh*t. I was in marathon training before DS and this pg, and can categorically tell you, running after the 1st trimester is only for world class athletes like beloved Paula, and even then at much reduced pace/time and def not in the final weeks!!

Holly thx for the Argos box tip

Laundry: if you don't have one already, make room for a tumble dryer! I can't live without one! Ours, a condenser version which needs no output pipe, was about £200 from Sainsbury's online. You get loads of nectar points too. But trust me, I do at least 6 loads a week and my basket is STILL never empty!

Anyone with a Phil & Teds buggy able to tell me if it's robust enough to take for walks in a park without paved paths?

Seansgirl - LOL, made me feel better!
H&A - I am having great difficulty sleeping too. We work until 11pm, so don't go to bed until 2am, and I am not dropping off til 6am. I go to the loo literally every hour until I finally fall asleep.
Marylou - totally with you on the heartbeat thing. I was so worried I spoke to my midwife about it as I have never been so conscious of the feeling of a pounding pulse, and palpitations. She said it is normal in pg, the heart has to work extra hard as there is 20% more blood going round. I think they only care if your blood pressure is up, too, but mine is currently low at 90/60.

Yikes, Lilkel, you're the second person who's told me we need a tumble dryer, and we just don't have room anywhere (we've got a washer dryer, but the dryer bit is really pretty crap). I'm either going to have to buy so many babygrows there are always plenty to hand, or be totally slummy mummy and have little bean crawling around in dirt .
And running schmunning. Nothing wrong with a nice gentle stroll, but running? GOing to the gym? Purlease. There's going to be enough running after crawling babies soon enough in my view

Hi again - had my 20 week scan yesterday and everything looks good - but theyve told me due to a fibroid sitting directly over the "exit" - im more than likely going to have a CS! so it could be anytime from mid june onwards! Good job i stopped myself buying a Tens machine !

Hey doggus your bp is the same as mine!! I have been told to avoid hot baths as this can lower your bp furthur and make you pass out! Low bp is great, it means you can eat as much salt as you like- hooray!! I was actually told by my mw last time to eat more salt as I kept feeling faint due to low bp. Crisps all round then!

Lol bump- My house is a mess too! I do try really hard, but dd is so messy, she spends her life throwing things on the floor. If I tell her off she justs laughs at me, so I don't bother. I leave the tidying up til she's gone to bed, by which point I'm so knackered I can only manage a half arsed job!

I'm dreading the third trimester coz that's when the sleep deprevation really sets in. You can't sleep on your back because you can't breath because the baby squishes your lungs and I had spd so couldn't sleep on either side because of the pain in my hips. It's a nightmare! You tend to sleep in half hour stretches and then need to pee and only a dribble comes out and you think what was all that about, I woke up and went all the way to the bathroom for that! Your bladder is so small and squashed that it only holds as much as a mouse's. Being pg is super fun! Oh well it's all worth it in the end!

Sorry justbeme, we cross posted! Good news everything is ok, rubbish news about cs! Could the fibroid move by June? Are they going to scan you again?

H&A - I am delighted to hear about the salt, I am a major addict and put it on everything. I keep getting dizzy spells too, and have to get out of bed veeery carefully. I had a turn in Sainsbury's the other day and they got a chair for me, like a 90 year old...

Justbeme - sorry to hear about your fibroid. is there a chnace it may move/shrink?

Me too doggus, I love salt and crave it all the time. I think I crave it because my body obviously needs it. Low bp can make you feel rubbish and contributes to ms because of the dizziness, but at least we won't get pre-eclampsia!