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hi, im due on the 1st of october with 2nd after 3mcs in the past 18m. anyone else?

It's hard to catch up with this thread if you miss a few days... Busy at work so apologies for the short post...

MrsMcJnr - sorry to hear that you've been having such a tough time, but the scan sounded positive so fingers crossed for Friday...

ejt - sorry to hear your news as well. It must be very difficult for you both...

J20 - much better off by yourself that with some unsupportive idiot!!

Mrs Fish - hello!!

Hope everyone else is okay. I've been a bit light-headed from the word go with this pg. Think I lost a bit of the plug on Friday which threw me and dh into a spin, but nothing since so fingers crossed it's all okay. Had my booking in appointment yesterday, but she said there was no point trying to pick up a heartbeat as it's impossible before 12 weeks. I also have my nuchal fold scan - 21 March so not that long to wait.

Buffythenappyslayer - I had my hair coloured when pregnant, I don't think there is much of a problem with it to be honest, if it makes you feel happier about yourself, why not?

To everyone else, thanks for the welcome

Hello everyone, hope you are all ok.

Buffy, some people say not to colour hair but i guess tis upto you, i think highlights better than colour as the dye doesnt touch your scalp. Personally i had my hair done as usual when i was pg with DS...even went to the hairdressers when my waters broke (but no contractions)...i was being induced tthe next day and knew i wouuldnt be getting it done in thte near future otherwise!! Im not even that vain, honest!

When ds was born he had v long dark hair and it had lighter brown tips so maybe those highlights did actually cross the placenta and highlight his hair !!! Now his hair has gone from dark through red and now blonde...it costs me a fortune to do to my hair what his has done naturally

busy at work here too so have to dash.

Hello!

I had my first early scan today (7 weeks) at the EPAU and it went well. There was a hb, and the measurement was right (11mm). So, a big sigh of relief for me, although of course I can't get too excited just yet...

As for the hair dyes. I don't want to scare people who've already used them in pregnancy - please do not worry too much. However, for those still making the decision on what to do....

Recently the EU Commission has banned (from last December) all hair dyes for which there was NO information on safety data at all, because manufacturers were not providing it. So the products being used now should be a bit better, but generally speaking there is really very little information around and very few studies have been made public.

Ultimately, everybody should make their own decision, but I will personally err on the side of caution. One option which I might go for is to do highlights, which do not necessarily touch the scalp and will put a much smaller amount of chemicals in the bloodstream. And perhaps it's also best to wait until the end of the first trimester? I am struggling with this too, because my hair is starting to go gray and I really don't like it.

For more info: European Public Health Alliance info

Hi all,
It's a real emotional roller-coaster in our house at the moment - we're trying to keep it together for ds's sake, but the news from dh's cousin is not at all good. We can but pray ...

J20 - glad you're starting to get your head around things - it's a shame you haven't got bump's dad around, but you seem to me to be a strong woman!

As for stretch mark cream - cream has nothing to do with it - the elasticity (or not) of your skin is genetic. If your mum got stretch marks, then you will probably too! If you really want to put something on it, you're better off sticking to aqueous cream - which is cheap as anything - or, if you really want to treat yourself, go for Dream Cream from Lush ... I used it all the way through pg with ds & didn't get stretch marks - but that's all to do with genetics - I just liked making a connection with my baby by rubbing something lovely on my tum.

MrsMc - thinking of you - Friday is coming around so slowly! You're about due some boring pregnancy time soon, I hope!

buffy - the hair dye thing I always thought was because your hair reacts differently to dyes during pregnancy - but if you're concerned, wait til 12 weeks. I use dyes quite a lot, as I do a lot of dying of fabric and yarn, and have happily carries on with that!

Gemma - I am so pleased about your news - let's hope it's all plain saioling from here on in.

Knicker checkers of the world unite!

ejt

Gemma - congratulations on your positive scan results. Here's hoping for more positive news this week!!

Mumpbump ? what?s the plug? hope you are ok, sounded like a nasty scare.

Gemmamc yipee ? great news is good for us all, about time too ? so glad it went well hon what was 11mm, the sac or the embryo? So exciting to see the HB, so pleased for you.

Ejt ? thanks, looking forward to really boring text book pregnancy time! Feeling very sicky and dizzy this afternoon, hope that?s good.

Ah, MrsMcJnr - the joys of the antenatal class to come for you! You have a mucus plug in your cervix which keeps everything in. It comes away a little while before childbirth kicks in which is called "having a show". From recollection, it looks like thick, cream coloured snot (sorry if tmi), so a bit different from the usual cm. But as I say, I haven't had anything since and it was only a little bit, so fingers crossed everything will be okay...

Don't take this personally Mumpbump but pregnancy is really rather gross isn't it with all the body fluids, odd and anti social symptoms etc. I have seen a few things these last few days but nothing that looks like what you have described. Do you think that's good? god I am so sad, clutching at every straw!

I don't know. I didn't see any plug with either of my m/c, tbh. I think the fact that you had a good scan result on Friday is more encouraging. It seems so wierd that people can have heavy bleeding during pg and be alright, but it is a reality and, on the basis of Friday's scan, it looks like you've got a good chance of being one of them. What time is your next scan?

I might have felt that way too had I not had such a lot more bleeding after Friday?s scan, to be honest, the bleeding was much worse after the scan so I?ll just have to see what Friday brings I guess. Sometimes I get so cross with myself for still being so hopeful. I also get angry because it is so frustrating not knowing what?s going on. My scan?s at 10am. I think it?s weird too that the bleeding can be so heavy and yet the baby survives. Plus I haven?t been told I have any cycts or anything that might be causing it.

Oh MrsMcJnr you wait until your waters break, that gives a whole new meaning to bodily fluids. I know this doesnt happen to everyone but mine went on the bath like a waterfall and were full of meconium, it was like bathing in bisto. towels got ruined, car seat got ruined, new cream carpet was in serious danger, and the shoes I worse to hospital went squelched their way straight to the bin...............sigh it was all worth it Just think 4 more sleeps til your next peice of news!

Mumpbump, hope your nice little present in your knickers is just on more gross pg thing and nothing to worry about.

ejt, poor you, I hope your life gets a bit easier soon.

Gemma congrat on your news, you must be so pleased.

J20, I completely missed the bit about your babys father going AWOL. How awful, Im sure you will cope, you sound very strong.

hi to everyone else, Im sure I will be on later as dh is watching the football tonight!

just a bump to say hi to mrsmcjnr and heaps of admiration for staying positive.

it must be very difficult and we'll all be thinking of you at 10 on friday.

hope you have a comfortable few days beforehand.

Evening all,

Havent posted for a few days, but have been reading all the happenings.

MrsmcJnr- Sorry to hear about all the bleeding. Has it settled down at the moment? Lots of love and good luck for Friday scan.

I have been feeling really like poo the last few days. I am lucky that I dont work- ie dont have a paid for job- so, I have been disappearing to my bed in the middle of the day. Fortunately DP works from home, so he has been helping with DC. I am also lucky that my DC are older... couldnt imagine feeling like this with a toddler about. Big Respect to any of you out there with small DC! Sorry to go on, just feeling a bit sorry for myself! God, if the TTC girls could here me... I am seriously happy to be PG, but I never felt like this before with other PGs...

Evening all, not been on for ages as absolutly knackered and after thinking we had sorted the boys sleeping they have both been up every hour/2 hours for 3 nights on the go, with DS1 screaming for daddy every time he woke up ! What is up, I don't know. Ds2 is teething so is to be expected (unfortunatly). Struggling as it is but with virtually no sleep as well aaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

Good news on the scans, still awaiting my midwife appointment.

Welcome newbies.

Good luck MrsMcJ for Friday and sorry to here your news J2O.

honey apple,, i know just how u feel, and my ds is 18 months and i am finding it so hard, i feel so guilty because i feel so ill,. and am not into playing and going out and doing things, i am just moping about in my dressing gown,, feel so bad but i feel so so drained at the moment,

also i have got the most engorged breast where i have stopped breastfeeding ds, they are sorer by the min

moan over till the next one xxxx

evening all

kezza; hadn't really posted on this thread about xp as i was hoping things would be sorted out, its made life really hard and lonely not having him around, or when he did get in touch it was to be nasty and threatening, but like i say, i have to accept that i'm on my own now and just get on with it, thanks for all your nice posts about it, i won't mention it again.

my belly is still itchy and rashy, don't know if it is the cream or my skin stretching.

i've decided my whole house needs redecorating, although i'm hoping to get a new house before the baby is due, but its not looking too hopeful, so will have to make the best of it, at least i wont have to get a cot, i don't have room, a bottom drawer should do it for a while.
so i've been sanding my wood in my bathroom today, and going to get paint tomorrow, don't anyone mistake it for nesting though, my house is a tip, i seem to get a spurt of energy for about 10 minutes and theen it all drains away and i need to sit down.

well i've rambled a lot of crap, so i think that will do me for now

Dear all,
thanks for your kind words and being happy for me! It's good to give some good news - I think we all need them.

I am even considering telling my mom and MIL in a few days'....although I don't want to tell anyone else until the next scan goes well (on 11/4....how can I wait so long???)

MrsMcJr, the 11 mm is the crown-rump length....

Lots of luck to you for Friday. It must be hard to be waiting so long...

J20, sorry to be a pain again on toxic chemicals, but I am surrounded by experts on these issues. In pregnancy it would be better to avoid painting, and certainly in the first trimester. Check this site, with concrete advice: Babycentre advice on paint

I am sorry to hear about your xp - but sounds like you are better off by yourself. One day you'll find the right person...

Morning,

Thanks beanie- good to know I'm not alone!
Hope you start to feel perkier soon... only like a month more of feeling poo...hopefully!

J20- Do you have any close family/ friends near you? It's very hard doing this on your own. I managed to stay with XP until my DS was 1 yrs old- but TBH it started going bad when he was born. XP was excited when I was PG though, but then the reality of a baby, was like, well BORING!! (For him- not me!)
Anyway, I met my LOVELY DP when DS was just 3 yrs old, we have a DD together, and obviously I am PG again....
You may find that XP changes his mind the nearer you come to delivery- or when the baby is born. How would you feel about him seeing the baby? My DS sees his biological father every 6 mths or so- not very often, but that is cos he is a bit unreliable- but I think it is wise not to say NO- because it could seriously mess your child up in the future.

In kent, I have discovered they only do a scan at 18-20 wks- this is awful dont you think??? I think I will have to pay for a 12 weeks scan.

honeyapple, that is terrible, i've had 2 early scans because of bleeding and spotting, but usually you get a dating scan at 12 weeks then another at 20 weeks to check for abnormalities, thats so unfair for you!

with regards to xp, we where actually ttc, so its not like he didn't know what he was doing, and a week before we found out we had a big argument and he left, we got back together briefly but his heart wasn't in it, now he seems to think if he's not around i have 'no right to make a decision that affects both our lives' and shouldn't go through with it, but how can i make us both happy when we don't agree?! i keep getting messages, telling me he's going to make me pay if i keep it, but he doesn't want anything to do with either of us, he's been pure nasty to me, i think his main problem is the lack of control he has over me now, not anything to do with the baby, i don't know if he'll change his mind about being involved in the future, but tbh i couldn't give a toss about how he feels anymore, he hasn't even told his family!
i have got a couple of close friends, no family support really, they've all got their own lives, but i know i'll manage, surely things can only get better.

with regards to the painting, er..wish i'd logged on this morning, i've just done my paint work in the bathroom

ooops - sorry if I've made you worry. Well, just don't spend too much time in the bathroom now and leave the windows wide open!

Your XP sounds like a bit of a bully, to be honest, but you really sound strong enough to be able to do well by yourself..

Kezza waters - sound lovely, really not water at all then!

Thanks Sparkly, you are so sweet to me, I won?t forget it (nor the support from all of you, I do think it is helping me get through )

Honeyapple ? are you ok honey? I know you have been having a wobble and felt guilty that I had caused it . I?m much better, really I am, no cramps or bleeding today! First time in 5 days that I?m not wearing a nappy! Sorry to hear you are feeling crap, hope you feel much better soon. We have the opposite here in my part of Scotland, you get a dating scan but no nuchal and no 20 week! (getting a good run of scans myself though)

Hello Jersey, hope you get some more sleep soon. I hope this is not a bad sign but I think I need less rest this week; it could be that I am living on adrenaline though I suppose.

How are you BeanietoBump? Holding up ok?

J20baby ? hey hon, mention it as much as you like, things are going to be tough and you?ll need to sound off and we are here for you. Also, from what I?ve felt, pregnancy is lonely at the best of times so please don?t hold back on us. Are you close to XP?s family? Do you think they?ll be supportive? I had really itchy skin all over last night, it was driving me insane so can empathise. Be careful with home improvements and make sure it?s safe for you to do them.

Gemmamac ? still smiling for you, glad 11mm was crown rump length!! In some ways I don?t want Friday to come as my dream of having a baby in October could come to an end, or it could make everything al right but I have a feeling that it?ll still be inconclusive at best!

Well, decided that I had better tell my Mum what was going on last night. I thought about it hard and thought she?d be really hurt if she finds out I?ve been through all this and not taken her counsel. Don?t get me wrong, I love her to bits and we are very close but I know from a very brief chat I had with her at Christmas that she does not and will not ever understand difficulties in getting pregnant or anything that might happen before the birth. That sounds harsh but she and my sister fell very quickly whenever they wanted and had text book pregnancies. Anyway, I was feeling a bit stronger last night so called her and told her the whole story of the last 10 weeks! She?s abroad you see. Anyway, she was really upset for me and worried about me but said all the things I knew she would (that do not help at all) but to be honest, as I knew she?s say these things, I almost found it amusing, guess it was the irony. Anyway, laugh with me ladies but these were her top 10 comments on the subject:

1. ?I?m surprised you got pregnant at all, you were so stressed out? ? nonsense! I confided in her that I was upset it was taking so long to get pregnant (especially as I fell pregnant 10 years ago, a week after coming off the pill, using a condom on a one night stand! )

2. ?There must be something terribly wrong with the baby to have bleed so much, best that you lose it really? !!!!

3. ?It?s hardly surprising if you lose it given your lifestyle ? have you even stopped drinking?? !!!

4. ?It can?t be right given the drugs your DH was taking for his back when you must have fallen?

5. ?Aunt X bled a lot when pregnant and Cousin X was never quite right?

6. ?At least you know you can conceive?

7. ?You?ll just have to try again?

8. ?These things happen to girls your age?

9. ?You?d better tell your sister or she?ll be hurt after all, it?ll do her good to worry about something other than herself ? I?m sure she has post natal depression?

and the icing on the cake?.

10. ?So what amusing things have been happening??

Love her to bits but doesn?t she take the biscuit!!!!

Morning all!

MrsMcJnr - you're mum doesn't sounds that dissimilar to my mother. When I told her I was pg again, her comment was wouldn't it be better if you left it for a while! Not sure how to do that without a top, but I can't believe she was suggesting we did that... Just realised I won't be around on Friday as I will be in France with no internet access, but will definitely be thinking of you.

J2O - your exp sounds like an arse, tbh. As you say, what did he expect to happen if you were actively ttc... Like the idea of housing the babe in the drawer - always wanted to do this with ds, but dh insisted on getting a cot!

Gemma - the whole birthing experience is a bit of an eye-opener, really, in terms of blood and gore! I felt like I had no dignity left at all by the end of it...

B2B - I know how you feel. It's hard work with a toddler as well. Ds was up at 05:00 for a bottle, went back to sleep and then got up properly at 06:05! Oh for more sleep. Alas, dh is in Switzerland at the moment on a corporate skiing jolly so I have no help from him for the next few days...

Knackered as a result and feeling slightly nauseous today - probably as a result of having breakfast at 06:15 with ds and nothing since! Anyway, roll on Thursday when I am off ski-ing, leaving dh to manage ds by himself for a few days!!

Mumpbump - have a lovely trip!

My jaw has hit the floor at your mums comments Mrs. Absolute classics, fair play to you for having a sense of humour about it.

Just think, one day your son or daughter will be listing your crazy comments to their friends