due MARCH 2007-thread no ?????

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i cant see a new thread so i thought id start another one!

OMG someone has just told me the police have found two more bodies in Ipswich!

This is madness...those poor women and their familes

so what's that now? 5 girls? its horrible.

about to watch that pissed and preganat programme on bbc3.

*pregnant too!

interested to see how they define "drinking" during pregnancy.

Isn't it horrendous? What sick f* is on the loose now? Christ, as if women in that position haven't got enough to cope with in their lives as it is, now they're risking murder every time they go to work. There's a very good book by Pat Barker (of Regeneration trilogy fame if anyone's read those) about the same thing, a serial killer stalking prostitutes, entitled Blow Your House Down, which looks at in some cases how women get into it and the reasons they continue doing it, even in the face of something like this.

Fox, agree with what Diva said about Norton. We've got Spybot Search and Destroy and Zone Alarm too now that I think about it - I hardly use the PC at all anymore (now that I have lovely Mac, have I said that already???? ) so had forgotten.

Amie, let us know what that programme was like. I'm in work so can't watch it, but curious to know what pregnancy drinking entails too!

After my two-hour sleep interruption last night, I managed to miss the aquanatal class I was going to go to first thing, but there was another one on later near where I work so I went along to that, only to find it finished for Christmas either one or two weeks ago. I'm not having much luck with these - last week I was going to go then realised I had both the wrong centre and the wrong day. I went swimming instead - it's just lovely being in the water when you're pregnant, don't you find? I was practising doing squats and stuff and it's so easy when the water's supporting you. I was also pretty pleased because I managed to do 32 lengths which for a not very strong swimmer like me is pretty good at nearly 6.5 months pregnant I thought - my longest ever swim is only 40 lengths.

Callie - will do... at the moment just thank god we don't live in wisconsin in the states as a woman was charged with the attempted homicide of her unborn child!

Oh I have a mac too! I love it.

have been really low and not at all feeling like posting or being near the computer. all i can do just to keep myself going. dd's father being a wanker (sorry if that offends anyone's sensibilities but there ain't no other word for it), effectively cancelled a 3 day trip she had planned there after giving her headlice and then refusing to treat them himself, and on top of everything else it just sent me into a total spiral. i didn't get the break i was relying on and though i was pleased with myself for sticking up for myself, all i can see ahead is a lifetime of dealing with these unreasonable, immature, ineffective, selfish, idiot men, while people treat me with a mixture of pity, disdain, confusion and awe. i can't really deal with it. i feel so upset about dp and it just isn't getting any better, also paranoid with all the publicity about mumsnet recently, it's in the press all the time, that he could somehow be reading what i'm writing... which i guess wouldn't matter except it makes me not want to write anything...

pregnancy-wise things are going quite good. i had a midwife's appointment today and the bump is the right size, the baby is head down at the moment (already maybe he's planning to be early), heartbeat really strong, and my urine was clear. had missed my appointment last week as was too depressed, so i was cheered up a bit by that. except for her attitude on strep b which i would like to be screened for, it really annoyed me that they are so loathe to do a simple test that even if it isn't 100% reliable might actually be very useful to do. anyone have experience of it / do they screen in your part of the country?

hope everyone is well anyway.

i can't possibly scroll a week and a half but will try and pop in more often

xxxxx

Hey Rainbow - good to hear from you

I don't think they screen for Strep B here but I'm not 100% sure

Rainbow the way you see your future is totally being coloured by your depression and it won't look like that when you are well again. From your posts I get the impression that you are a positive person with alot of energy and power, intelligent and sensitive, honestly I do think you will turn this around but it does take time.
Are you doing any writing at the moment? Might be helpful to put things down in words for yourself to use creatively in the future! Do you ever write poetry?

Ds2 just has a bit of a thick lip now. The mouth does heal quickly.

I had a stressful day today trying to cope with dd being difficult and mother unable to keep out of it and interfering unhelpfully. I feel a bit fragile after that this evening. I'll bounce back tomorrow.

All the computory stuff sounds impressive and was like reading a foreign language to me. I haven't a clue!

hiya how are you?

i don't see why they don't screen for it, they should. it's the nhs thing... i told the midwife (jokingly but she looked worried) that i'd be happy to pay them a tenner to do it if that would help but i think the issue is a bit more complex than that!

sorry rosie x posts

yes i am quite depressed... i was taking all those antibiotics for the chest infection i had which wouldn't go away... so i took myself off the antidepressants because i didn't want to take any more drugs!!!

maybe i should try bach flower remedies / aromatherapy a bit more intensively than just the odd cup of chamomile tea?!

i am having shiatsu fairly regularly and doing yoga. sure they help but it isn't enough really. no counselling at the moment.

yes i think writing would be good but the words just won't come, it's a kind of self-preservation i think, i can't really listen to music either, it's like i'm on autopilot you know?....

more than anything i just hate feeling so big and heavy and almost disabled at times... dependent on these awful people like my daughter's dad, who kind of lords it over me.. he said to me the other day 'so where's your boyfriend now then huh?' .. it's just so demoralising!!!

I'm on autopilot too. I've finally got my kiln ready for action and I'm incapable of making anything to fire at the moment. When I am practising my art it puts me in a totally different place. At the moment lifes a bit of a drudge, but growing a baby is a big creative endeavour that requires all my energy just now! (A bit of hard work kills me)

yep. i feel like this little person inside me is incredibly strong-willed, and right now he's like, just keep things as calm as you can mum, keep eating, keep sleeping, keep sitting down as much as you can , because you can't fall apart, i need you to keep going because i'm totally reliant on you! it's exhausting...

my sister does ceramics wish i had the skill

I think being pregnant can sometimes be a lonely thing and labour too. I get so much from sharing the experience on here and with pregnant friends. When I became pregnant the first time I used to feel I was joining an exclusive womens club with painful initiation ceremony!
And after joining the club, giving birth to ds1- I was so happy that I am a woman and felt much superior to all men

pilchers are like plastic pants that you put over nappies. So cheap you can have a clean pair for each nappy change. Use reusable fleece liners as well as wipes - just bung it all in the machine and way you go.

Rainbow - All I can offer is hugs but you're little man is probably right.. do try and destress, he needs you nice and cal, and in full flight for when he is born, as does your DD, I'm sure the new arrival will add a spring to your step, chin up, we're all here for you.

I'm thinking of trying reusable nappies for while I'm at home, but when out and about may use disposables... who knows.. want to do my bit for the environment but that may go out the window when I'm pulling my hair out!

Is there a "comfortable" vomming position? One that may reduce the pulling on my stomach? Getting worried about the straining I'm feeling these mornings.

ChocolatePenny-I got your book today and it looks great. I'm looking forward to reading it secretly later and playing with the monster shadows, then wrapping it up for dd.

Hugs to you Rainbowgirl

Blimey, this is the kids concert/party week from hell

hi rainbowgirl, glad to see ou posting again. admire all of you who are doing sport and/or looking after children.. can hardly get myself down the corridor to kitchen and back. I do walk home from work-dp drops me off- 10 mins stroll- am am all puffed after. boobs are normally 32f and are at 38G right now, but am feeling constricted... its funny but i look in the mirror and just think how prgnt i look- i don;t see the new heavy thighs etc (neither does dp, but he could be lying did christmas decs last night and am so looking forward to doing them with new baby next year

ooh, forgot am seeing mw next week, any tips on what to ask? I know I have to have a blood test-we don't seem to have proper antenatal classes, just a tour of the hospital, labour ward- I hope its not scary-and the NCT ones are £150!!!! er, no thx

Sorry spongecake, can't think of any usfeul questions, only the usual is everything ok etc.
The friend of mine who is due in feb and has the poorly baby made me cross this morning. She has always gone on about how big her bump is, she did this even before she knew there was a prob with the baby. Anyway she asked me how I was and then went on to comment on how I wasn't big at all. I said that I was only 26 weeks and she was 31 and she then said ' oh, I'm sure I was much bigger than that at 26 weeks"
Now I'm worried that the baby is a stunted midgit. This is SO STUPID because I've had enough to know that bump size is irrelevant. Last Mw appointment had it all measuring perfectly. So, what's so bloody fantastic about having a big bump? She doesn't look large to me and I don't think I look small. Sorry rant over.

kitty I've had folk telling me I hardly look pregnant which is hysterical - measuring perfectly for dats
I was pretty small tummy wise beforehand, it is gradually emerging, I will enormous at the end as I have been with the other 2 - just getting there slowly
And I sure FEEL pregnant - restless legs, cramps, insomnia, cravings for cheese and crackers depsite having the most hideous brush with severe constipation last week.
oh the joys

Oh and I'm in the reuseable camp - I used motherease one size last time with dd, they were great, we started off with muslins which I also really liked

oh and I've bought the pram - we decided ages ago, we were going to wait til FEb but saw one on ebay and prices dip before xmas so got it for half price
We got an icandy apple

Piffle, you're quite small normally aren't you? (if I remember correctly). I mean I'm naturally small when down to my fighting weight, but I'm already growing out of some of my mat clothes. I'm sure all is fine, I don't know why people have to make such insensitive comments. This friend is really slim, and I would never have had her down as a competitive mum but;...... Dp thinks she was just passing the time of day with crap talk and meant no harm. Men would think that though, it would be different story if someone made a passing comment about the size of their willies .