November 2015 mums to be! Here we are! Our bus is decorated with scan pics, our appetites are beginning to heal, and spring is in the air!

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Here is the new thread for November ladies! Let's smell the flowers, regain our sense of taste and keep chatting!

I have no idea what to expect from a twin birth! Had one simple VB before but this time will have to just do as I'm told and accept it might be more medicalised. One thing I'm scared of is labouring, pushing out number 1 and then having to have an emcs for baby 2
Just have to see what positions they adopt, how they develop and how everything goes.

Is it an emotional day today ? I've just had a cry too! Lots of things whirling in my head like have we done the right thing having another. (Bit late) and then thinking how much my kids have grown up it seems five minutes ago they were all little they still are sort of but my eldest is staring secondary school in September just can't believe where this years gone already! 7 weeks till they break up for flipping summer. I'm just being silly but you really have to appreciate every single minute as it's gone in no time.

I think so, all the negativity over my pregnancy is getting me down a bit. Not told many people and dreading telling the in laws. Bracing myself for more comments.
I realise a small age gap is a shock to many but it's happening now so our families need to accept it

MrsWishyWashy I go to sleep on my side but keep waking on my back. It's beginning to worry me a bit! Perhaps I need to sew a golf ball in my t shirt!

I try to sleep on my left but dd's cot is to my right and lately I'm sleeping with an arm dangled in there all night. Need to get her in her own room so we get our bedroom back for a few months at least but wandering down the hall compared to sticking my arm over isn't appealing. At this rate babies will be top and tailing in the cot.

2nd timers, are you going to any antenatal classes? I've been offered some by the midwife. Would be nice to meet more pregnant women but don't really need to learn how to change a nappy etc.

Annatha, I did an nct refresher class with dc2 to meet other women. It was all 2nd (+) timers so very much focused on that.

Sorry to everyone feeling emotional today. Those days do happen spectacularly when you're pg don't they?!

Abbey, have you considered telling in laws by text/email before you get there to allow them to get over their shock first rather than you having to deal with it? Even a text saying 'we're on our way, looking forward to seeing you, we have some exciting news!' Would tip them off so they could mentally prepare?

TakesTwo my parents don't really do text or email but good idea though. It's just the whole avoiding the subject that's been difficult. I'm hoping the in laws will be ok, DH is one of 3 with a small gap but perhaps we should text them, I'll ask DH what he thinks.
I've had people I know announce that have shocked me e.g. my aunt with her over 25 year age gap (she managed to claim old age pension and child benefit together for a short time!) but I just try to act normal and say congratulations etc.

abbeyroad I've been exactly where you are and it's horrible. other people's comments and views on my pregnancy with ds were so negative and scare-mongering. made me feel like an irresponsible crazy person and as a result I didn't enjoy my pregnancy at all. focusing on all the negativity completely ruined the whole experience and I regret that so much now. you can't change what people say but you can chose to not listen. trust me as someone who had two under one, they don't know what they are talking about, and having a very small age gap is amazing. there are so many more positives than negatives. sure it's overwhelming at times, but it is honestly the best thing we ever did having them so close together. my two are so so close, the bond between them is so strong. and in many ways it's actually easier because they play together and don't need me to entertain them

Sorry so many of you are feeling down and emotional today, I guess it's part and parcel of the whole pregnancy thing.

Focus, when you lay on your back your uterus pushes on a main artery and therefore can make you feel dizzy/ light headed etc. I remember in last pregnancy having to reshuffle during scans later on as after a bit I felt so light headed.

I also fidget quite a bit at night and can't get comfortable. We're supposed to be enjoying our sleep in 2nd trimester before we get too big and uncomfortable... Well seems our bodies have missed the memo!!

On a positive note, I had a consultant appointment yesterday and got a scan too! It seems that here all consultants have scanners in their offices so I guess it's standard to be scanned, yay for me!
Saw both babies wriggling around nonstop, so much so the doc had difficulties taking measurements. It's amazing seeing them move so much and yet not feeling anything...
He was a bit worried about the rash mentioned dd had and then I got on my belly too so had bloods done to look for antibodies for viruses associated with rash which can be harmful during pregnancy. Now waiting for those results, never a dull moment...

Thanks TwoBees that's lovely. I hope my 2 are close like yours. It's being an entertainer that I find the hardest bit of being a mum (I run out of ideas) so if they entertain each other when older some of the time that would be a bonus

I'm beginning to think I'm irresponsible, stupid etc but then I go back to my reasons:

• we thought it would take ages / might never happen based on medical advice
• for various reasons (some genetic problems in the wider family, premature birth, getting pregnant) I decided it would be safer for baby for me to be a bit younger, I'm mid 30s now and if we had 2 more with the obligatory 3 year gap I'd be 38 and 41. Which is great for many people but perhaps not for me
• I can do my baby years, enjoy them then get my career back (hopefully) and push on with that rather than going back for a year or two and leaving again
• And this is my weird reason... as DS's birth was not great part of me thought if I waited I might never get brave enough to have DC2.

So I have thought about everything lots.

I'm hoping once baby is here they will be happy about it. They aren't exactly unhappy now, they are just totally ignoring the topic altogether. And a few months ago it was all "so when are you having another one?" from them!

Another emotional one here! I had a break down in the middle of Tesco because we've been having a new boiler fitted, the place was a tip and the water was turned off so I couldn't even use my own loo! DH wasn't very sympathetic and the tears came out of nowhere! Had to run/waddle to the loos with my eyes to the floor!!

And on the birth choices front, I think I'm going to go for an elective c-section, as someone said up thread, it's the safe middle option. I can't risk needing an emcs and then trying to recover with 2 kids running around, a new addition and hubby on shifts at work!

Just had my consultant appointment, no scan for me though, boo.
Fairly pointless- blood pressure, urine check, chat about risks of twin pregnancy.
Assuming twin 1 is head down, I'll be recommended for vaginal birth so we'll see.

Anyone know what I can do about low blood pressure? I'm making sure I am hydrated by mine is staying at around the 90 over 60 mark. It's usually a bit higher than that.

I'm also feeling irrationally emotional. Not crying though - more just angry and irritable. Poor DH. Trying very hard not to let anyone see how annoyed I am getting at work - I realise it is fully hormone lead, but EVERYONE is driving me mad today.

Also am STILL feeling sick. 16 +4 today, everyone kept telling me it would be over by now. They lied!!

Mrsscarlet me too! I have been very snappy at work today I feel a bit guilty

They do lie mrsscarlett I'm 17 weeks and still sick. I had bad sickness in the second trimester last time, although I thought I'd got away with it in the 1st this time. Hope you feel better soon

So sorry to hear that some of you are having an awful day today and still having to put up with feeling sick.

I'm 14 weeks today and have felt soooo much better over the last 4-5 days that I feel nearly like my normal self. I think I even look less pregnant although one cheeky mare at work said today when I told her "Oh I did wonder" whilst looking pointedly at my stomach.

Yes people definitely lie, Im still feeling sick and vomiting at least once per day!

Does anyone else feel like hibernating? Im definitely not a people person at the moment and feel like getting into bed and staying there. it was so much easier last time as it was winter and everyone stays in when its cold and dark. Ive had three communions this month and got two weddings coming up and all my clothes look awful!!!

Ooh I'd love to hibernate! I knew this would be the case with a small age gap so I shouldn't complain but I do miss being able to have a day off, or a weekend lie in. But I wouldn't change things for the world and the upside is no bus and tube commuting this time

Guy my blood pressure is the same and was in both previous pgs too. I find lots of water, but also salt (adding it to food etc) helps a bit. It will naturally get a bit higher in tri3 but in the meantime, stand up slowly!

Ugh, it's Wednesday night. That means my working week is over and I now have two days alone with dd. Don't get me wrong, I'm so lucky to work part time in a good job and have that work-life balance. But I love working and I get to sit down and drink tea and go to the toilet in private. Thursdays and Fridays are just a whirlwind and I'm too tired to give dd the attention she deserves.

Mrsscarlett and Rebbles, we started a 'Narky Bastard Club' earlier on in this thread - feel free to join us. .

Am still working stupid hours at work (which is making me even more narky) but will catch up on the thread soon.

Wow, it seems today has been a tough day for many of us. My day got incredibly worse as the clients decided they didn't need me and wanted me gone ASAP. Have worked as a maternity nurse for ten years and never had such horrid clients. Anyway got half a weeks pay and now get to rest again.

Hope everyone feels better tomorrow.

Gr33 - wonder what our bodies are trying to tell us with the back sleeping.

In due course, when this one is full in about 20 odd posts from now, the new thread is ready and gleaming right here new thread

I am feeling rubbish today too! :( must be something in the air. 14 weeks on friday and still being sick every morning and nauseous in the evenings when tired. Is it bed time yet?