November 2014 Thread 2: Springing through the first trimester!

[Nessalina]

Welcome to all you nervous November ladies! Settle in for sore boobs, inappropriate puking, and hopefully happy early scans!

The crew so far:

Just1moretime DC3 due Oct/Nov
devoncreamtea due late Oct
MammySam DC2 due 31st Oct
RandomInternetStranger DC2 due 1st Nov
Canweseethebunnies DC2 due early Nov
booksshoescats DC2 due 3rd Nov
BatCave DC3 due 2nd Nov
Hopeful83 DC1 due 2nd Nov
Annarose2014 due 2nd Nov
CraziesTogether DC1 due 3rd Nov
WinterLover DC2 due 4th Nov
weeonion DC2 due 6th Nov
alita7 DC1 due 6th Nov
caravela due 5th Nov
Littleyewtree DC2 due 7th Nov
Greenstone DC2 due 7th Nov
flipflopsonfifthavenue DC2 due 7th Nov
AussieGoingHomeSoon DC3 due 7th Nov
SazHoopz DC2 due 7th Nov
Fergie11 due 7th Nov
Snook99 due 7th Nov
AveryJessup DC2 due 8th Nov
MabelMay DC3 due 8th Nov
edwardcullensotherwoman DC3 due 8th Nov
Catnap1 DC1 due 8th Nov
Polkadotscarf due 9th Nov
RecklessLadybird DC1 due 9th Nov
Nessalina DC1 due 10th Nov
ladydolly due 10th Nov
PosyFossilsShoes due 10th Nov
LittleRedDinosaur DC2 due 10th Nov
MrsY87 DC1 due 10th Nov
Giraffeski lo DC3 due 11th Nov
BJZebra DC2 due 11th Nov
MrsCuppa DC1 due 11th Nov
nickiswiss due 11th Nov
Mathssssteacher123 DC2 due 11th Nov
HRMumness DC2 due 12th Nov
Misslaughalot due 12th Nov
LadyMillion DC1 due 12th Nov
Amyrose82 DC1 due 12th Nov
FurryScoob DC1 due 13th Nov
Tigsy DC1 due 13th Nov
Lauraparsons233 due 13th Nov
WutheringTights DC2 due 13th Nov
Grayby due 13th Nov
movingmovingmoving DC2 due 14th Nov
MrsWombat DC2 due 14th Nov
Petal26 DC2 due 14th Nov
Misslaughalot DC2 due 14th Nov
Laura1410 DC2 due mid Nov
happyjessie due mid Nov
BeetleBeetle due mid Nov
Baxter2014 due 15th Nov
33goingon64 DC2 due 15th Nov
SeaSaltMill DC1 due 15th Nov
theduchesse DC2 due 15th Nov
Barmybunting DC1 due 16th Nov
selsigfach DC1 due 16th Nov
Getyourflipflopson DC3 due 16th Nov
pinkgirlythoughts DC2 due 17th Nov
StudyFullTime DC2 due 17th Nov
Snooky17 DC4 due 17th Nov
daisydalrymple DC3 due 18th Nov
DilysMoon DC3 due 18th Nov
stowsettler DC2 due 19th Nov
Whenwillwe3meet again DC1 due 19th Nov
utopian99 DC2 due 20th Nov
robynarmstrong92 DC1 due 21st Nov
NorthernExile DC2 due 23rd Nov
keeponkeepinon DC3 due 24th Nov
maeanne DC2 due 26th Nov
ImBrian DC5 due 26th Nov
Sleepingstarsmommy DC1 due 27th Nov
WhatWouldCaitlinDo due Nov

Greenstone, my DD must be about the same age as yours, she was 2 in Feb. She is still definitely blissfully ignorant, and think we won't be telling her for quite a long time. I keep looking at her and feeling guilty because she won't have my undivided attention soon. I don't know how she will take to it at all- bit worried really!

Hi Fergie, I don't know the answer to that one, but I hope someone wilco me along soon who does and can reassure you. Your dates are definitely right are they? I was just wondering in case that was why the measurements were small.

fergie are you certain of the conception date? Because sperm can live up to 5 days so it is possible that you didn't ovulate or conceive till 5 days after you had sex? Then the dates would make sense?

Hey northern I thought my dates were correct but the nurse thought id maybe ovulated late. I was told we need a faster hb and growth. As the nurse also mentioned mc symptoms or lack of symptoms I have been on an emotional roller coaster.

Just got back from the hospital. Had an early scan this morning as I have had some pain in the last few days.

Feeling a bit they couldn't find any trace of a pregnancy using the internal scanner, so they have said its a PUL. Have to go back or more blood tests in a few days. It could be that I'm not 6+4 and I'm much earlier or I have had a miscarriage or its an ectopic pregnancy.

I'm dreading the next few days just waiting around for the answer. I really, really hope they have my dates wrong.

The nurses were lovely, but at one point when she was explaining what a PUL was she joked that as it was April fools day she might tell her husband that she was pregnant. I was genuinely surprised she thought that it was an appropriate joke, but maybe I'm being a bit sensitive today.

Such a frightening time for us all isn't it?? Cannot believe the stress of counting down the days and weeks, fingers crossed for everyone

Oh Alpaca you must be feeling awful! That was a bit insensitive of her to make such a joke in your position! I hope your baby was just hiding or that your dates are wrong- is that possible? When did you get your BFP?

Hugs to you!

My doc called back and said to monitor it and that he'd refer me to epu again if it's still going in a few days. So I'll call him on Thursday if there's anymore. Argh I think I might call anyway if my symptoms don't pick back up, last night I felt ill, now I'm only getting occasional nausea for a minute or two and my boobs need more prodding to hurt. I'm also not hungry. It could of course be coincidence that I'm having one of my lull days when I've spotted.

Alpaca big hugs. Sounds very worrying for you. I hope your bloods suggest that everything is ok. Just take good care of yourself in the meantime. The waiting must be excrutiating.
I can't believe the nurse said that- that is incredibly insensitive and unprofessional.

I'd actually ring and have a word with her manager. I wouldn't make an official complaint but I would say someone should have a word with her about the sensitivity of her conversations with patients. I have found most staff in the maternity unit at the hospital to be overly aware of their conversations and the things they say, to the extent they seem terrified of saying anything! eg I'm single, no father involved at all and I've noticed no one has mentioned a father at all yet and have automatically addressed me as Ms. I'm not bothered and can quite happily explain the situation and deal with any judgement or prejudice but because I've gone in alone & only spoken of my daughter, not a husband or partner or anything you can see them obviously avoiding the whole subject. I'm going to start making stuff up for kicks - alien abduction & insemination, my cat sleeps in my bed and I had a funny dream one night, I think it was her... People are so nosy I love fucking with them!

Right I know I'm not meant to feel but curiosity got the better of me from when I couldn't find my cervix earlier (I promise I will not feel it again- I just needed to know!)
It's in a really really strange position!!! It firstly feels like it's disappeared entirely, then you find that where it normally sort of sticks out and you can feel a little tiny baby finger nail sized, closed opening, it has sort of gone sideways with the opening on the side sort of so its like its lying almost horizontally across the top of my vagina??? WTF??

Is this part of the process of my retroverted uterus correcting itself? Could this be the cause of the current spotting (it certainly was not like this when she checked it at the epu)? Is this normal? (btw it's nothing to do with sex as we haven't for the whole pregnancy!)

Called the midwife who didn't seem to know much but wasn't overly concerned.

alita, I read that the cervix and opening can undergo various changes throughout the first semester. It can shift, go harder/softer, less/more open, anything. I would recommend stop feeling it, for your own peace of mind. And because other people will tell you off if you do . I think you can't draw any conclusions just on the position of the cervix opening.

BTW you freaked me out a bit when you mentioned a tiny baby finger, I could imagine a little finger poking out of a cervix! Horror!

Haha luckily my baby just has little webbed 'paddles' no fingers yet :P though that would be scary.

I know I'm not meant to touch, and I really haven't been any other time! Just this is very odd :P Not something I've ever felt before anyway :P

Hi everyone. Feeling VERY nauseous today, but it's good to catch up with everyone.

9+1 today, and my next scan will be next Wednesday (viability scan before having blood taken for the Harmony test). DH and I really really want to tell DD and I think we will after scan next week. We could wait for the nuchal scan and Harmony result, but if they are not good it will still be a while till we have any kind of resolution either way, and I'm not sure we can keep all that from DD. She is just five, which in a way is a good age for this - old enough to understand a lot, but young enough that if things go badly she will probably shrug it off fairly easily as she won't get the full implications. She's not been clamouring for a sibling, so it's not as if it's been a dream for her.

Oh, I don't know, just thinking out loud really. We've told quite a few people - lots of good friends with kids locally that we see a lot of and I'm rubbish at hiding things (and not drinking is very suspicious for me ) and we're starting to feel a bit weird about lots of people knowing when she doesn't.

Random - I have the Angel Sounds doppler from last time - haven't checked if it's still working but now I'm really tempted to try it. It hadn't even occurred to me to try this early, but you've made me think I might. Last time I only bought it when I was 13 weeks but always found hb very easily. I know it's a lot earlier now so I don't think I'll freak if I can't find it...

I have a really busy week next week - dreading having to be on form for loads of work-related stuff, during the day and social stuff. I normally love all that, and I'm just going to have to keep my head down and skulk off early and not drink and everyone is going to think I'm being very odd (actually, they probably won't even notice, but you always feel super-self-conscious in situations like that.

Sorry, that was epic. I should try to do little and often rather than coming on and offloading!

Alpaca, alita, Fergie - hope the waiting and worry are over very soon. Seriously, early pregnancy sucks!

books I got my doppler at 9 weeks with DD and always found her fairly quickly from then. This one I found at 7 weeks and again at 8 and now at 9 I can find him pretty quickly. He's still quite low, like about an inch above my pubic bone & just to the left.

SPD seems to be kicking in but I'm trying to ignore it... can't decide if it's best to exercise as much as I can or to rest as much as possible... which will ward it off better?

Random Ouch - can't answer the SPD question, but I have a couple of good friends who suffered badly - I really feel for you.

Amazing that you found the heartbeat at 7 weeks. I do remember from last time that part of the trick is realising just how low down they are and not swiping around in the region of your stomach! That was a useful guide you posted earlier!

Do you think you're having a boy (or are you just using 'he' as a general thing)? I suddenly had this quite strong feeling today that I'm having a boy. DD has become very close to her childminder's son, who's 18 months younger - they really love each other so maybe I'm just picturing her with a brother because of that.

books yeah I had SPD last time and was in a wheelchair for the last couple of months, I was literally SCREAMING through the nights - it was agony and I didn't know you could survive pain like that. My mw said SPD that bad is worse than birth but it's rare to get it that bad but I've got hypermobility which makes it more likely and I fell quite badly and twisted my pelvis when I was pg so that probably made it all far worse. The fall was all fixed and it has had 8 years to heal and strengthen up so hoping it won't be as bad and hoping these twinges are all I'll get but we'll see.

I don't know what I'm having, I'm just convinced it's a boy by my symptoms and how different this is to DD and that this one's father has fathered six other boys and he only has brothers who have also only fathered boys but I actually don't really know. Too early to see on the scan obviously, other than it's a wiggly gummy bear!

Relaxing a bit as I've been more nauseous again.

I would love to get a doppler- if I could monitor ninjas heartbeat now, then it would reassure me through the spotting, but then my uterus is tilted back- so unless it's popped into the right place, which I won't know without another scan, then the chances are I won't hear it anyway, though it wouldn't worry me if I couldn't at first, knowing its unlikely I will anyway, so maybe I should?

SPD sounds awful, fingers crossed it won't happen to me, though I have hypermobility in my mums family and it seems some of my joints have it, some have the complete opposite, and I got my period at 10 (having a period before 11 is supposedly a risk factor) and have lots of joint issues already and I'm only 20!

I'm hypermobile & already have knee ishoos as a result. I will ask the mw about SPD when I see her on Thursday, I really don't fancy the sound of that!

Random I've got some exercise-in-pregnancy books - one says don't exercise if you have SPD but the other two say talk to your consultant / mw. Sorry to hear it's coming back.

If anyone does get hit with SPD remember the Red Cross. The NHS were pretty useless with it last time and just gave me a belt I had to pay for and told me to keep my knees together and that was literally it. I saw an osteopath privately who was far more use but the Red Cross were fantastic. I hired from the local branch all sorts of mobility aids - a shower stool, hand rails by the loo & for my bed & sofa to help me get up & down, a high stool for at the kitchen units, crutches and a wheelchair, they were really really good.

bleurgh feel so nauseous and exhausted!

Thank you for your kind words.

alita7 I got my BFP on 21/03 but AF was due a week before and I gots loads of BFN before then. So I could have had a longer cycle as I have just came off the pill. The Clearblue test said 'Pregnant 1-2 weeks' when I tested as well so maybe I am earlier than calculated. I just don't want to get my hopes up too much.

Alpaca I think you must be earlier... I tested with clearblue on the day my period was due and it said 2-3 weeks, then when I had my scan last Thursday, I calculated I was 4w6d, but they measured me at 5w4d... So it's really easy to mess up your dates. Try not to worry.

Did they tell you what your hcg levels are?