The maybies are in the second trimester and (hopefully) entering the blooming phase just in time for a cozy Christmas. Thread no 5?!

[mumof2aimingfor4]

Lets scoff the mince pies and christmas cake, the belly is all baby......honest!

Stats page: docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvygwA-EKhURdDMwQWNNWGt0cHhmVkloazVVQ0hYNUE#gid=0

Size of baby: m.thebump.com/pregnancy/pregnancy-tools/articles/how-big-is-baby.aspx?MsdVisit=1

-shaving these days.

Only of the ladies on my 4th baby bus had her 2nd little boy today. He's so yummy it almost enough to make me broody for this baby.

Xav ...shaving?!?!?! I tried that once when with first boyfriend, never again - so SPIKY I think I may be a bit of a Hairy Mary. I practically have a BEARD

So yes, all booked in and as of tomorrow lunchtime the Wookiee is gone although I'm wishing I could get blind drunk before I go. The first one in a while is always appalling a bit of a challenge. Ahem.

Anyone else due 31st of May? I can't remember and I'm on my phone now so can't see the stats page (plus I'm UBER lazy) the back of the bus is great! I'm expecting Bean to arrive in June though, I'm never on time and both DH and I were 7days late. I envy my aunt, both of hers were BANG on time

Thanks for the Jane info moobaloo! I'd just seen the 20% Mothercare deal and got all excited as the other day they had the system I want (the Muum with matrix) for a really good price so figured with an extra 20% off it would be fantastic! Unfortunately the cheeky gits have upped the basic price so it still ends up the previous price once you take the 20% off. Still is the best price I can currently find though.

moomin sorry those uni folk are idoits. I know it's easier said than done but you need to ignore them and focus on yourself (and baby). Def get to the docs for some help - the sooner they can work out what it is the sooner they can start helping you. I was convinced I had the start of PGP from about 8 weeks but have been seeing a physio and it seems to be an unrelated issue and is now improving, so don't necessarily assume the worst.

Sorry for not name checking everyone. to all

Those of you going with Jane buggies, I had a power twin + rebel car seat last time. Was wonderful - got it second hand, used it for 18 months and sold for the same as I paid. Lots of life in them :)

Ooh mrsfoo bikini waxing is far too painful for me!! I was screaming in agony last time I had it done! Definitely shaving now although I reckon it will get more challenging as the bump gets bigger!

Thanks for the support everyone. Going to try and book an appointment for next week tomorrow, see if I can get any help at all with the pain whether it's SPD or not - I can't carry on like this

Uni went a lot better today, my lecturer has deleted the facebook page they were all posting on as everything erupted and went crazy so it all got deleted and no more nasty posts now. Feel like I can relax a little bit.

Looking at flats and houses with baths which makes me very happy the thought of a bath right now is amazing and it'd give me a reason to order the Sanctuary Spa Mum To Be stuff from Boots!

My tree is going up in Sunday :-)

thistle mine too! The kids cant wait!

We've no room for a tree so we make one each year. Loo roll tubes this time :) got everyone saving them for us. Keep forgetting its December on Sunday, will have to start painting them green.

Must remember to set my alarm for 1am to book my tesco shop too

I can't remember which supermarket it was but one of them had tiny mini Christmas trees in pots we are taking one out to DS for a bit of decoration on his anniversary on the 4th.

Tesco have them trees they ten pound

We're heading home tomorrow to help parents put tree up on Saturday. They're off to a Christening on Sunday so doing it a day early

As for us... we don't have space in the room for a tree, but one is going up in the kitchen and we have light-up decs ready for the windows.

Has anyone else got painful gums? I didnt suffer with either of my dds, but by my wisdom teeth my gums, sides of mouth and sides of tongue hurt.

I do mumof2 seem to be getting a few lumps on the end and sides of my tongue, had them with ds2 - perhaps a boy thing? My gums bleed every pg.

I had a sore mouth ulcer right by my wisdom tooth a couple of weeks ago. Nothing majorly unusual as I do get them, but I do seem to remember reading somewhere they're more common in pregnancy, so it could all be related? Might be worth getting some of that mouthwash (Cordysol?) to see if it helps?

I had an abcess drained last week! Boy it hurt :-(

Aww crap, im petrified of having anything wrong and needing work done on my mouth, never needed a filling just a polish makes me nervous. I can see anything just redness, I'll try the mouthwash thank you loopy

May be worth gargling salt water too!!

I petrified of the dentist! It's took me ten years to allow her to do me a filling! She need I need root
Canal, but I'll be getting put to sleep for that when the baby comes

Mrsmumy I due 9th May

I am a 18cm onion tomorrow at 17 weeks thats a big onion not sure the two sites i look at agree with size of baby

moomin glad to hear its sorted

DH felt baby move tonight yay he was so happy, it seam to be right near the front and low down, hurts when i sneeze or laugh

I have a very important question for you all as I have just poped how do you when you get bigger wipe your bum just a little question

TBH the sizes the give of our 'fruits' are totally off. Maybe if you include placenta and amnotic sac.

little thanks so u think maybe i am some were between an onion and 18cm hehehe
Oh well it all good fun

Does anybody know if u can use
Vapo rub while pregnant ??

Feels like every time one problem is solved, another one begins. After everything with my parents, my dad sent me a message saying that OH is welcome around any time and doesn't have to leave at 9pm, can stay with me etc etc.

So we've planned to go back this weekend, spend one night at mine and one night at his - I spoke to my mum to check it's ok and she's said "Not too sure about that, your dad is struggling and thinks he should've done more to stop this happening, he's worried about how you're going to cope financially, he thinks we let you do everything too soon".

How long is this going to keep happening? Will it happen when the baby's born? It feels like they want access to me and their grandchild without having to see my OH and sorry but it isn't going to work like that - I'm not going to say "Sorry, you can't see our daughter or son this weekend because my parents want to", but I don't think they'll appreciate that.

Considering just not going home at all now. Feel really teary about it and everything, I'm sick of being pulled in all these directions where it feels like people want me all to themselves, it isn't fair. I can see it from their point of view but it's the fact that they keep changing their mind and playing with my emotions, and it leaves my OH wondering a) why all the blame is on him and b) whether my parents like him or if they've been pretending the past few times they've invited him over for tea.

So jealous of people who can feel movements. I can't wait til I can! 18+2 days but I have an anterior placenta so have no idea when I'll start to feel kicks.

It sounds like your parents are just having a little bit of a wobble, Moomin. After all you're still their little girl - no matter how big you get!

I don't think they're intending to hurt you or pull you in different directions, they're probably just still getting their heads around everything. I expect they want the best for you and for you to be happy above all else. They might be feeling worried over whether you are happy or not, and guilty over whether something they did or didn't do has influenced the situation. Then they don't know what they can do to fix everything, and whether or not they should.

To be honest, I would go home with your OH and hold your head high. :) Make sure you're both on the same wavelength before you start, then talk confidently to your parents together about your housing plans. You could also mention how you're liaising with the university about your course and what your plans are for the upcoming year. Show your parents that you are a team, that you know what you're doing and just how organised you are.

You could even ask your parents then for their advice about things, especially for caring for a new baby as they have done it before after all. Yes things will have changed and you might have no intention of doing things the same way they did, but they'll probably feel happy to be able to offer you some advice and have it acknowledged. Hopefully then that'll help settle them a bit. :)