March 2013 Mk III - Hopefully the nausea will wear off soon...

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Another scan for me today - baby on track in terms of size which was good news. The most amazing thing was that we got to hear the heartbeat loud and clear on the scan - I didn't even know it was possible this early (8+2)! It was really lovely and gave me the teeniest glimmer of hope that things maybe could turn out ok this time. On the downside the consultants I am seeing now are still convinced that I was wrongly diagnosed last time (which of course has my mind spinning with all the 'what ifs' in respect of the outcome with DD). Turns out that I may need to have daily heparin injections from next week or possibly daily steroids - not looking forward to either option. Having said that the discomfort and side effects would be a very small price to pay to end up with a living little one!

Hope everyone is starting to feel a little better as we race towards the 12 week mark!

rainbow, what did they say this was for? I'm on a double daily dose of heparin and 25mg steroids (prednisolone). PM me if you want any info.

Tinker hope you're doing OK and that you and DD are feeling better soon.

Thanks to those offering school advice. I'm feeling a bit better about the location of our liked potential house as discovered the other nearest school seems nice and is rated outstanding. It woudl mean changing childminders as it's in the oposit direction, and we hoped not to have to do that, but at least I feel like there is an option that's viable aside from the CofE school. It's not getting him into it that was worrying me, it was actually that I realised currently at least, I don't want him at that school and was worried anything else would be miles away or terrible.

Forgotton already anyone else I was going to name check, oh dear!

I'm much the same with friends. Seem to really struggle to get to know people and feel comfortable. I think I over analys the 'level' of friendship. I didn't do NCT classes last time and regretted it a little when I see how close some ldies from NCT groups are. But I did make 2 or 3 quite good mates just from getting my self out to groups and really miss that now I've moved from there. Haven't made any friends in our new place as I work full time so no chance to meet mum friends, and I've never really done well at making friends at work, plus hating my job doesn't help that! I'm thinking of doing an NCT refresher course in the hope of meeting some new people up here, but they are less area specific and I don't drive so I wonder if I'd really keep up with people if it's not really local. Wonder if the course might also help confidence wise for the birth as I didn't have the easiest time with DS and I know DH is petrified and I can't deniy being a little apprehensive. My experience of the (one) NHS class we got is also that it was utterly useless sadly. The best bit was a physio coming in and doing a couple of minutes about possitions and breathing. But she ws there for all of 5 minutes - really that should have been at least half the day in my opinion!

Going to try to have a proper chat with the midwife at my next appointment about DS birth and see if they can get my notes and go through them with me and DH. Not sure if I'll find that reasuring or not but still have lots of blanks and would like to understand better (though worried about hearing that actually I was just a bit useless!).

Gosh, what a ramble. Sorry folks.

Right, I really need to get good at name checking!! It's so hard on the phone though!!
rainbow did they explain why?
flowery they should have your notes and have no problem going through them with you if that's what you request! I wouldn't worry too much about what you're told of your performance, you have a ds so you must have done something right so won't be classed as 'useless'!!

sarahs not 100% sure why I might need these medications as the appointment was very rushed today so didn't get a chance to note things down - possibly something to do with a suspected elevated auto-immune response but hopefully will find out more on Monday when I have another appointment. Dreading daily injections though - after one weeks worth of Fragmin injections in hospital my legs were black and blue and so painful!

dameflamingo I liked your post :) def appreciate glimpses into other peoples day to day here. This is a nice thread.

Good news on your scans zoey and rainbow

Tinker you sound like you are doing so well under the circumstances, really glad you have a supportive dh, and hope dd is better really quickly.

With the friends thing Manda and everyone else, I think I was really tricked by the actual programme 'Friends' (which I watched compulsively between 1995 and recovering from dd at which point I stopped my TV licence and put my box set in the freezer) into thinking that was the benchmark for friendships in my life I have gone through some times of having really intense close 'groups' like at uni when there were 13 of us in a houseshare, or when I was a rep working abroad. But as each season ended I used to end up feeling so low that I suddenly didn't have my support around me that I have wound up scared almost in getting close to people because there is always a goodbye. Having said that there have always been people coming forward at the lowest times for us, and not always the people that i'd expect to be there.

With baby groups and things I sometimes get annoyed when cliquy people are rude or excluding to others, but I tend to try to get a mum I take a particular liking to aside and ask her round or arrange to meet for coffee or something. I am so much better with one to ones in general. Most people are really happy to be asked. I also help at a baby group now that dd is bigger, sometimes being behind the scenes is nice because you have something to focus on and its quite easy to get to know people when 'on team' with them. Some of the nicest ladies I know I got closer to doing that. And also it gives me a position to spot other shy people and chat to them. My confidence levels definitely vary, particularly on the days when I feel like a scruff and that everyone else looks so much better put together than me!

I find surestart especially hard because where i am they don't serve tea and coffee and to me that makes the setting feel unnatrual and like school. Go because they have the best toys and messy activities though which saves my house the stress! Don't get to go to many sessions most of the time though as work 3days a week usually.

Still feeling inhuman today, but was dh's birthday so I made an effort and went to Sainsburys and bought pizza for tea! I saw the dr this morning and am signed off for another week. There is no way I would make it through a day at the moment, ugh.

Hi to everyone else and hope you all have/have had a good nights sleep!

Hello, can I join you please?

Sooooo..... it goes like this.

I have three little girls. Was supposed to be two as pregnancy is quite bad for me (please remember this when I say I don't get MS or anything else!) I have an irritable uterus, always deliver stupidly early, have long term PGP which I've used crutches for for the last 4 years, have to self inject Clexane every day, have scans anything from 3 a week to once a fortnight, lose count of how many people want to stick their fingers in my vagina, two sections with GA... OK, I hope you get the picture, pregnancy is horrible. So whilst I was pregnant with #2 HE was supposed to get the snip then we wouldn't have to worry about waiting for him to no longer be fertile, we'd have well over a year whilst I was pregnant/ breastfeeding. Well he was away a lot with work and well... it just never happened. Then one day when #2 was about 22 months I thought "Hmm... vague random feeling I might be pregnant" after nearly bludgeoning him to death with a HPT he promised that he would get the snip done before it was an issue...

#3 is now 14 months old. I had a bug in April and since then my belly has kept inflating so I look very pregnant (I've lost a stone because it hurts to eat) and last Friday Mum called around with a HPT. I was rather cross because I knew I wasn't pregnant! Of course I am, although still not really feeling it, so I called the hospital Friday afternoon and got an appointment for Monday morning (who said NHS waiting lists are bad?) and saw my GP who got me an appointment with the CMW. Monday I was expecting a tiny blob, can't be that far if I can't feel anything... Was bit of a shock to see the "tiny blob" waving at me!!!

Technically I am "due" on 5th March but we know better than that and expect it to be sometime in January. Getting a little stressed because the hospital is fully booked so my case has to be seen by the directors as that is the only hospital in the area that can take me on. Also stressing because I was bullied by staff on the NNU follow on ward and they tried to get my baby removed (it was two or three members of staff and others were apologetic to setting up support networks for me, so this is not just me pleading my innocence) and kept me in hospital for 6 weeks when it wasn't needed, forced me to FF my lactose intolerant baby, tried to break me and kept calling mental health professionals in who all said I was doing brilliantly and better than most would under the circumstances - so they got someone else's opinion until I was having CPNs sent to my home, who still said the same.

Wow! Lots of information there. Feel free to skip it all and just read the hello at the top

Hi confuddled, think we've 'talked' before on long term PGP/SPD threads. Can't remember who I was then though!

Hello confuddled wow what a lot to go through, I hope you are much better supported by the hospital this time round

Hi Cunfuddled - I am 9 weeks with number 3 and have to admit I am not very good at pregnancy either so your not alone by any means :) I have had both my legs cut inhalf and rebuilt with pins, plates and screws! Also have an imcompetant cervix so DS1 was born at 28 weeks and DS2 at 33 by C section under GA as epidural didnt work! I go awful SPD with DS2 and was on clexane injections, pesterys for cervix everyday! I ended up near enough bed bound. I was scanned every week from 18 which is no easy task for a hospital 40 mins away when you cant walk,lol!
Will be having the stitch early this time and consultant every 3 weeks for now and then will be more after stitch - already been given spd belt, crutches and referred for physio :)
However, when I get my little depressed head on we all do it I remember all te people who cant get pregnant or keep miscarring! I may have about 7 months of hell no point saying 9 as its never going to happen but I get a beautiful baby at the end!
Keep you chin up and take each day as it comes, dont worry about whats going to happen later as you cant change it and look at your babies and remember what you get at the end :)

Morning am awake and feeling HUNGRY this morning so going to persuade someone at work to drive to macdonalds - grease is much needed this morning I think :)

My cramps have died down a lot to andmy consultant said my uterus is out of pelvis and forward so maybe yours has moved up too.

My new maternity bras come yesterday and finally have one on today and god it feels good, lol! They dont feel 'shoe horned' into a space clearly too small - ahhh how the small things make my day, lol!!

Sounds very traumatic confuddled but welcome indeed and hope this time it'll be better cos you'll have the Marchers from MM to message! Happy weekend everyone when it comes

Welcome confuddled, hope you have an easier run of things last time. How come there OS such confusion with dates, was baby measured at a scan?

Morning all. Trying to eat some porridge but it's not really going down very well. Feeling very tired today and could do with a few hours in bed, but DS is not going to agree to that is he?! Got a letter with my scan date today - 3rd September!!! Hahaha, so many of us with that date! I should be 13 weeks on that date. Let the countdown begin...

Welcome to the thread confuddled - wow what a nightmare all that sounds! Certainly puts my moaning about feeling like I've had a hangover for the last 6 weeks to shame...

Morning all, just checking in before I spend the morning vomming/cleaning/being excited/crying/drinking tea, and the afternoon cooing over a scan picture/waving frantically at a baby on the screen who clearly can't see me/eating burgers/drinking more tea!

Welcome confuddled sounds like you've had a rough ride... You won't find much sanity here but the support is good :) We are a lovely bunch - wow what a shock to find baby waving!!! Is HE getting the snip now??!
zoey I'll have the sweet chilli chicken deli wrap with medium fries and a fanta. If you could get it up north before sunset I'd be grateful :) my word the desire for mcd's is strong this morning!!

I'm going to try and stay away from the thread until after my scan now as i'm really excited and a bit giddy and,well, in these situations I find I'm not too understanding of others problems so I will check in at 5 pm - if I can hold off that long :D wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Welcome confuddled!
And great news about your scan rainbow, sorry to hear you need the injections but good that you are getting a good level of care & supervision!
Off to Somerset this weekend to see my folks, think there will be lots of baby talk as DM is very excited! Bad mobile signal though so will have to try to catch up with you all again.
Feeling much more human and tastes coming back to normal, though I find nausea worse in morning/evening when I am knackered. zoey like you I could murder a burger - maybe I can persuade super healthy DH at the services in the way West

Go JoJo fingers crossed

Ladies, I'm scared. I've just been to the toilet (tmi) and have had some brown blood when I wiped. I don't know what to do - I've already been told by the EPU in the past that they won't scan me or even let me go in with this but I'm so worried as this is how my last mc started. What on earth can I do if they won't see me?

Shel I'd still contact the EPU and see if they will let you be seen. Surely with a previous mc they should make you a priority? Try not to worry just yet- generally I've heard that some spotting with brown blood is quite common in pg, and it's red blood that's more concerning. Hoping that everything's ok for you ((hugs))

Shel can you try another route? Can you call your community midwife, or maybe go to a&e and get sent up to epu that way? Hopefully will all be fine for you. Also could you call and ask for a phonecall with gp? I have had things happen in the past through that route. Let is know how you get on

Shield I'd call your midwife. I called mine when I had bleeding, they directed me to A&E who referred me straight to EPU.
Hope this reassures you, but the consultant told me that bright, fresh blood is normally an indicator of problems (what I had) and that some brown spotting is normal. Hope all is OK x x

Sorry, I meant Sheldonella!

Sheldonella I have found that the only way to get anywhere on the NHS is to make a huge fuss so be persistent until you are seen by the EPU if that is what you feel you need. I wouldn't be getting the care I am today unless I had taken matters into my own hands (or my independent midwives did in any case!).

Sheldonella as everyone else has said get on the phone and kick up a fuss, dc for you,
Good Luck jojo
Rainbow very jealous of scan and hearing heartbeat think I'm similar dates to you

To all those craving McDonald's I craved big Mac meals when pg with dd2, this tim I'm craving all healthy stuff milk, scrambled eggs and fruit, also think I'll look into floradix as obviously my body is saying I need more good stuff

Welcome confuddled

Dc for you was supposed to be fx for you