November 2012 - the boringly named fifth thread

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Previous threads:

1. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1412456-Nov-12-babies
2. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1432039-Due-in-November-2012-part-deux-no-cringy-thread-name-here
3. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1438916-November-2012-Duebies-Part-3-insert-cheesy-name-of-choice-here
4. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1449640-November-2012-bring-on-the-second-trimester

Lovely to see all the :) next to scans.

15 days to go

Feeling very sorry for myself looking at the state of my stomach last night. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't washboard flat or anything, had a little 'muffin top' since DD but it was ok. Now I look huge. However, I did hit 11wks yesterday & looked at the pregnancy book I had with DD and even the skinny-Minnie model who is clearly only on DC#1 they use for the 3-4wkly photos has a slightly rounded belly by the end of the 1st trimester. So I figure, giving this is DC#2 for me & the bloating might be exacerbated by the nausea/bad food, its not too bad. I just can't tell anyone until the scan & I'll be into the 2nd trimester by then!!!!

As far as making friends etc. before you spend any money on NCT look on Netmums local & see what groups there are in your area. If there are lots of bump to baby or new baby groups, you might not need to pay out anything (unless you want the education aspect obviously!!). Also bear in mind that the NCT classes are based on areas so if there is any chance of you moving... And finally, there are some NCT groups that meet up regularly without you having been part of the course, so check those out. I know that, in my area, I would have to drive miles to meet with NCT people whereas on Netmums I found a lovely group a short walk away.

Good luck to all of today's scanners :)

Hello all, I was on a previous thread and kinda straddle this and the Dec - I'm possibly 10 wks on weds (due end Dec) or on Fri according to mw (due 1st dec). All going well I think, itching for my scan date! Will be done VIA hospital cos of thyroid.

Hope all are well - over 2000 posts was a little much to catch up on but great to hear your lovely scan stories, I haven't seen any sad ones yet so I do hope all are well.

2 quick questions (one daft, sorry) - anyone else putting inches on hips more than tummy?!

And - Anyone had experience of slapped cheek - how quickly tests come back as currently banned from school and although quite nice, builders are tearing down half my house and am getting cabin fever, plus mild worry about test outcome ( probably immune due to amount of snot n spit I've met during 11 years teaching). Im in Newcastle so lots of labs etc but nurse had no idea.

Am just popping on for support before I do the much dreaded deed of finally telling my awful Mother I am upduffed. She is the most unsupportive negative person and much as I shouldnt care what she says at my age, I am a grown woman FFS but yet she always gets to me like no-one else can!
She will say, Oh No your not are you??? then itll be, your too old, have too many kids already, not married and/or cant afford it. Joy. Im REALLY looking forward to this!! Anyone there for advice on old bag Mothers and how to NOT care what they say!!?!

I have one of those Shanelle. I knew she would react badly - true to form. She did. She hates ANYONE being pregnant! God knows why she even had me....

She thinks everyone is irresponsible and feckless.

What did surprise me was it took her about ummmmm, 4 hours to 'get over it' and start knitting. You could have knocked me out with a feather.

Did she get over it with the others? Or was she ok with those pregnancies?

I said to my mum, I'd rather regret the things I have done, than the things I haven't. And I would always regret never having another child.

No matter how prepared for her reaction I was - I still bloody cried :( I told myself not to, but just couldn't help it. For once in my life, I wanted her to be proud of something I'd done - you know like other regular parents - can't wait for grandchildren etc etc. Shouting from the rooftops that they are having a grandchild?! Not my mother!

What has surprised me even more - and is harder to get over, is my Dads reaction! First was 'who is the father' errrr? The man I live with maybe? Then when I emailed him the scan picture, and sent him an update on JUST HOW ILL I HAVE BEEN (!) and got no reply. He checks his emails constantly. I text him. No reply. So I rang him yesterday, and he said he got the email, and would ring me tonight. He didn't call.

So now I feel like even my Dad doesn't care. Not surprising. This is the man that moved to Switzerland when he and mum divorced, so he could escape paying CSA. Twat.

Sorry! But I have rubbish parents too. Share your joy on here, it seems internet forum buddies care more (so it feels!)

Good Luck shanelle think of the mantra "today I am pregnant and will enjoy it" hope she doesn't upset you and just try and think of how happy everyone else you will tell will be :)

Just had a little moment of realistion like "omfg there is actually a little person growing inside of me!" ha not like I didn't already no this but for that just felt like this is actually happening

I felt confidence about my pregnancy a week or so before my scan Blonder. There was a sudden change in my mood as though I knew everything would be fine.

I keep forgetting there's an actual person growing Nervous. The pregnancy symptoms are all very real but about once a day I catch myself remembering it's because I have a less-tiny-by-the-day baby inside me. I think it's about 4.5cm long now!

Oh thankyou detective that sounds so very similar! I REALLY get the wanting your Mum to be proud of you and like other "normal" Grandparents who are proud, its really sad isnt it? She was the same as your Mum after a very short period she was Knitting cardis so I know it will be ok in the eventually (probably but the end of the day TBH) but she was also negative the last 2 times as once I had 2 children she didnt see why on earth I would have any more ( she almost burst a blood vessel when I told her I was having no 4) so Im anticipating this one to be even worse as at least I was married, settled and better off financially then...
Really helps to share and have someone in the same boat, thankyou. Off to do it now gulp

I had one of those last week Nervous a moment of OMG! There's a human being inside me! It still amazes me even now.

I know this sounds ridiculous, but every birth I am at, as the mother pushes the baby out, in my head all I can think is 'OMG its a baby!' God knows what I am expecting to come out? A kitten??!

Good luck Shanelle. Try not to say 'well then, fuck you' to her. As I nearly did

Although, really.... maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing?!

Lovely to see all the smilies next to the scans.

Good luck with all those who have scans in the next few days.

Well from one crap phone call to another! Ive done the deed and she was "ok" just as predicted not at all enthusiastic and a little huffy to say the least but its done and I feel better for getting it out the way.
Sorry to come on only to moan and/or drag down the post but am needing the lovely ladies today. Gets off th phone all shaky from the old bat to find a message from midwife asking me to phone the hospital. I knew it would be my NT results as I only had scan Friday (forgot to post sorry )
My results came back high risk but only slightly so now I dont know what to do. The reason for my uncertainty is that I absolutely know its only my age that made the result in the high risk catagory. I came back with a 1 in 140 risk, as you know anything over 1 in 150 is considered normal so barely into that cat anyway. My NT measurement was actually lower than average at 1.6 and there was apparently nothing at all of any concern in the bloods but its purely the age factor thats bumped it up. I said to the midwife who called then surely it would show up on either of those factors if there was any problem and I dont really need a CVS/Amnio? but she seemed quite insistant on it still being high risk and told me to think about it for a couple of days and talk to DP. Im pretty much decided that it would be silly to have anything further done as unless im missing something obvious it doesnt sound like a particularly high risk to me? Anyone else? particularly any midwifes/medical peeps please

Your test results are your facts shanelle. The relevance of your age is a statistic based on the facts if thousands of women.

Do what's right for you, think about what you want to do but ignore any medical "professional" that tries to push you into something.

Hmmm tough one shanelle my nt measurement was very low too, 1:3, however I am 38 this year so fully expecting quite a high risk due to that reason alone. I didn't get my bloods done yesterday so need to go back tomorrow for it. It's a big decision and not sure what I'd do in your situation but I echo waitings comments and say don't be pushed into anything by your midwife. Take your time, talk to your other half and go with whatever you feel is best for you and your family. Take comfort from the fact you had a very low nuchal measurement and nothing else untowards was found in your blood.

Thanks all who replied, what a lovely supportive place this is. For some of us its the only positive place there is to go!
detective lost in my own feelings this morning I didnt respond to your last but Oh dear your Dad doesnt sound great, its unbelievable really when you think about it isnt it I do feel rather jealous when I see/hear others who have wonderful relationships with their parents who support them emotionally and financially even, mine have always been shite, I wonder why they had kids How are your DP parents, do you at least have 1 set of excited and enthusiastic Grandparents? My DP has none so our poor bub has NO chance

nervous I had that realisation last night. I am 12 weeks tomorrow so we were looking at pictures of a 12 week old fetus.I said to DP ?look at this, it looks like a baby? because now it is almost fully formed and it looks so perfect. A few weeks ago when we were looking at pictures of a 6 week old fetus DP said it looked like an alien baby

Shanelle I assume it was a combined test & this is your screening test risk outcome from all factors? As I understand it, the risk is from age in addition to NT measurement, blood marker levels, weight, family origin, wks pg & smoking status & all combined so not just that they've added your age in to up the risk. It is also just a screening test, so to know one way or another for definite (as def as you can be prior to birth) you need a diagnostic test. But for added confusion, at age 40, the chance of the baby having down's is 1 in a 100, so (without knowing your age) you may have a slightly lower risk factor than would be expected for your age.

According to the booklet I got from the MW, 25% of babies born with Down's were not detected by the screening test & approximately 3% of women get a higher/increased risk result & will be offered a diagnostic test.

You don't have to have the diagnostic tests but you should think about whether you want to. You also don't need to decide what you'll 'do' with the results either. I think its worth taking time to consider the options though.

Personally, I would rather know. I can't say what I'd do with any results - but to a certain extent, Down's would be a relatively minor concern compared to some of the other conditions discussed on the antenatal tests forum for me!!

It's difficult to know what to do until you're in those shoes. Take time to think & decide what's best for you & your family. Good luck x

Hi ladies,

I haven't posted since the very first thread. I have been keeping up with everyone's news though. Congratulations to everyone.

I had my 12 week scan this morning. I am having TWINS! Non identical twins. They were bouncing around and waving their little arms, it was lovely. I cried so much and I am still in shock (happy shock).

I am 13+1 today and EDD is 5 November 2012.

Good luck to everyone else having scans :)

Clarella I had to be tested for parvovirus, as one of the children I look after was diagnosed with slapped cheek. I had to go to the gp for a blood test, the results took nearly 2 weeks to come back, thankfully I am immune from the virus. So either I have had the virus as a child or whilst working. Have you had the blood test?

I told work this morning got lots of congratulations, which was lovely as I was very nervous about telling my bosses. I also told a friend who has some fertility issues, was trying to find the right moment, and wanted to tell her myself without her hearing from someone else.

Shanelle I have no advice re the diagnostic tests other than take your time to come to a decision that you feel content with.

Goodluck to everyone with their scans today.

Wow Garden what amazing news do you have any inkling or was this a complete surprise?

Congratulations garden Wow!

Shanelle remember that is 139/140 chance that all is fine I personally would be pretty happy with that, but as others have said, talk to DP and decide what is best for your family.

So, who else has been planning their Mat Leave??? I am trying to work out the most cost effective way of doing it as this will be my 3rd, so childcare costs are a major issue - to cover DD1s summer holidays this year, sharing care with DP and GPs, if I drop to 3 day weeks for July (using A/L), have all August Annual Leave so we can have quality family time, then Parental Leave and Mat Leave from Sept onwards. I will need to take about 3 weeks unpaid leave next summer, and have 3 mths on SMP only, but if we take a Mortgage holiday I think we would be ok. Only two more months full time . I worked late with both my girls, and had to go back when they were 5mths old, so this would be awesome! DH is working now, so things are very different, and this WILL be my last!

I LOVE the sound of this, especially as I could drop my 2yo down to 2 days a week at nursery for the entire year, so can spend quality time with her before her competition arrives, and she starts nursery, and also time with DD1. Just need to convince DH now Now pondering part time working options after Mat Leave

I realize this is all dependent on everything being ok with baby, but I do not believe in tempting fate.

To clarify I will be having a section around 25th Oct, so I do not have to worry about baby being 2 weeks overdue!

Hey all

Hope all is good with everyone
I'm feeling major flutters at the mo, anyone else?? Im 11 weeks today with dc2.
Garden thats amazing. Are they your first?? Did you have any idea?

I found this, it made me laugh

www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20360857_20591757,00.html?xid=email-peopledaily-20120501-20591757

Hi Garden that's amazing!! So hoping my DH isn't correct in his prediction of twins & the more others have, the less statistically likely it is for me right??!!!

Also hi Clarella hope you get a clear EDD from your scan.

Definitely feeling little 'thuds' or pops in my tummy Chick & I'm 11+1 now. Don't think I felt anything until 14wks with DD & nothing properly for a few wks more after that.

Valium in some ways my maternity leave is sorted because, as a teacher, I might not accumulate annual leave but I don't have to pay for school holiday care! I only work 3 days a wk & DD isn't in a nursery (my sister childminds for us) & my DH was working out how we could afford the full yr when we started TTC!!! Essentially, we'll save up until I go on mat leave at the end of Oct (half term is 2wks, so I won't actually officially be on leave until Nov) & then I'll go back the following October, taking my keeping in touch days as and when. I hope to get my DD settled into her pre-school place in Sept before I go back & then its 3 days a wk again.

garden wow great news! Are there twins in your/ dps family?