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We will have a calm and worry-free pregnancy with lots of jumping beans and bouncing babies and will BROOK NO ARGUMENT on that (Part 7)

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TooImmatureTurtleDoves · 10/02/2012 17:39

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PopcornMouse · 16/02/2012 09:36

(she is now on holiday for a few weeks)

PurpleWithaBlueBun · 16/02/2012 09:50

Biscuits you can have my cat if you like? We were having mice twice daily sometimes, (from outside thank god!) but haven't had any in a while so I am assuming that nest or whatever has been wiped out!

Wants Brooking for your sister!

Munx fabulous scan! I know full well the worry, I still am pinching myself!

Popcorn you are officially in the system! Hopefully by the time you have your booking in 3 of us will have had our babies! Pomme and Too definitely will have! Shock I can't believe we are so near the end!

My bump has dropped again so I think the baby might have engaged some more or be in a position where my bump is smaller and lower! I will take a pic for comparison purposes later if is is the same.

DreamingOfPeace · 16/02/2012 10:20

Why oh why did I ever say dd had slept through?! Cue up from 3-5am. I have decided my cough and cold are bad enough to be termed man-flu. I am struggling to sleep full stop anyway but of course you can't sleep if you're not even in bed! I am tired, sore and grumpy.
popcorn, mw rang up and booked me a scan over the phone there and then at my booking in. There are different systems though.

biscuits, we've just had mice in garage and loft and getting rid of them with traps and poison was easier than I thought. 2 weeks all gone we hope

fishcake how many weeks were you when your dd was born? My boys were estimated 3lb 4 oz each at 30 weeks which put them over the 50th centile for singletons each. And if you're 2 or 3 days more pg than me does that mean my 37+6 and your 38+2 section are on the same day?? 4th April?? Or are you the 3rd? I shall brook no argument that you get there. As i will Smile

wants, hope your sister's baby is ok. Is he having his skull xrays today? Is this baby Oliver who was born earlier this thread?? We will of course all Brook No Argument about it!

DreamingOfPeace · 16/02/2012 10:23

Oh yes, we definitely need a bump comparison pic purple!!! How exciting! On phone so can't flick to stats thread easily- what's your EDD?

DreamingOfPeace · 16/02/2012 10:24

(Ps purple I am gearing up to risk spending huge amounts on the medela swing double electric pump- of the different models are any better/ worse?!)

PurpleWithaBlueBun · 16/02/2012 11:04

Dream I never really got on with breast pumps full stop, our new pumps are Ardo double ones and they must be good as they usually buy the best ones for hire. These are also closed system so should be good resale.

Oh and 9/3/12 for me, but end of Feb would suit me, give me a bit longer to get into a nice dress for the wedding. Got my priorities straight! Speaking of which this is similar to that dress we liked if a 10 would fit you? Some niceish things on here I also like this one again concerned with the colour as ocean is the weddings theme and I don't want to make a faux pas by wearing the colour?!

pommedechocolat · 16/02/2012 11:41

Mw appointment this am - all good, 50th centile still and 4/5ths engaged (i.e. a tiny bit!). She also booked my sweep for midday next Thursday - eek! Would love for sweep to work so fingers crossed. My mum had a sweep with my db at about 38 weeks and he was born 9 hours later so really hoping!

Glad others have got weddings soon after baby too, we have two at end of April/beg of May. I got a bf dress off ebay but may only be able to wear it for one of them as it is burgundy and wedding colour at second is burgundy - grr!

Yy to more bump pics!

pommedechocolat · 16/02/2012 11:48

What I'm finding odd Purple and Too is that by the time we need a new thread we will probably have all had our babies...

PopcornMouse · 16/02/2012 12:25

What does a sweep actually entail, pomme ?

pommedechocolat · 16/02/2012 12:27

The midwife pushes her fingers through the cervix and then sweeps her fingers round the membrane bag. This can release the prostiglandins that start labour. Hopefully!
Congrats on being in the system now :)

NinjaChipmunk · 16/02/2012 12:36

That sounds rathr uncomfortable pomme mind you can't be worse than what is to follow....Grin but soooo worth it.

fishcakefoxtrot · 16/02/2012 12:37

Dream I got all excited at the thought of our simultaenous sections but mine is on the 3rd! (a tuesday). I will be 38wk 1day. I really need to get a grip on this otherwise I run the risk of turning up a day late! I was 37 weeks when DD was born. Brooking no argument that these babies will stay put until their scheduled eviction dates.

Second steriod injection inserted into my buttock this morning and a urine sample successfully produced. Phew! The midwife also kindly listened to the heart beat for me, just for reassurance, as she said the steriods can make the baby move a bit less for a short while.

The steriods stopped me sleeping- midwife said it is quite normal because it can cause hot flushes but I am now exhausted! Was not asleep until half 12, then awake at 2am and then awake from 4am and up at 5am but this does mean I have got a good chunk of work done and am going for a sneaky nap while DD is at the childminder.

What are you going to do about the mouse Biscuits? Are you tempted by a cat? DD would love to get a cat but I think the dog would eat it... Also, I am always so impressed by your early postings. Are you a naturally early riser? I drag myself out of bed at 7am normally and consider that quite early enough.

A sweep next week Pomme?! that is so soon! you might have a baby by next weekend! Was it you with the itchy scalp? Mine is really responsive to hormones- I can predict the onset of my period by the tenderness of my scalp- so perhaps things might start even sooner...

Hope your Dsis's little boy is ok Wants.

fishcakefoxtrot · 16/02/2012 12:58

Also, I just want to say thank you for everyone's advice last week about having family up when this one is born. As the consultant was not hugely confident about actually getting to the scheduled date I think there is no point trying to organise for my sister to come up. Plus, I don't think she had really thought it through- I think she thought she would play with DD for a couple of hours, for a couple of days, and get to sit around cuddling a newborn. When I said that things would be a bit more chaotic and that the baby and I were likely to be in hopsital for several days (meaning at least one whole day for her with DD) she started to mutter about needing to check her annual leave situation! I think it is for the best- i certainly don't want DH to just have an extra person to look after and I think that is what would have happened. I have started rallying from friends who had previously offered to help, plus DD has two days a week with the childminder, so I think we will manage.

The next issue will be people wanting to come up, particularly as it looks like the baby will definitely be here before Easter weekend. In the past both sets of family have been hugely resistant to staying anywhere other than our flat, even when we were in the one bed flat with DD. We can't really afford to put everyone up in hotels, particularly as they would want to stay more than one night given the distance parents and PIL will need to travel. As we are moving much closer 4 weeks later I am very tempted to just say no so that we can spend time with our friends here, pack and generally adjust before the enormous move and DH starting his new job.

However in the past my mother has tended to straightforwardly ignore me so we will see. She surely can't ignore me and still expect me to have her to stay, surely Hmm

When DD was born my mum had already arranged a visit (which I had said no to) because she wanted keep me company while I was on mat leave. As it turned out she came up when DD was about 5 days old. Fortunately a friend was away and let my mum stay in her house. My mum still turned up at about 8 each morning and stayed until 10pm each night. She expected to be able to sit in on my midwife appointments (luckily the MWs seemed to have lots of tricks for getting rid of interfering grannies as she only wanted to ask her own questions, talk about her own experiences etc and generally dominate proceedings).

Worst of all though was that she repeatedly told DH that he was not needed and tried to persuade him to go and stay with an old uni friend to make use of his paternity leave. All I can say is that DH has the patience of a saint because if MIL had done that to me I might have never spoken to her again!

Then my mum decided she wanted all her family around her and came back the following weekend with my father, sister and her boyfriend. I had to find, arrange and book accommodation for them which she was very reluctant to pay for. They ignored the fact I had had a section and was still pretty immobile, bullied us into a day trip because they had 'come all that way', she brought sis's boyfriend into my bedroom when I was breastfeeding topless (I was still learning!) so that he could have a look and insisted that they all stay until 10.30pm the night before DH was starting back at work because there was something they wanted to watch on the tv, despite knowing it took us hours to get bed.

They then came back the following day, cleared me out of easy to make food because they wanted sandwiches and snacks for the journey and left me an exhausted, quivering wreck. And following that visit DD was found to have gained barely any weight (probably because she was not allowed anywhere near my boobs because they had come all that way and were entitled to cuddles) and we were put on a rather stressful weighing schedule.

Sorry for the mega rant- I think I needed to demonstrate that I am not just being mean/ precious! In fact I migh save this somewhere in case I need to strengthen my resolve if they decide they need to do this again.

fishcakefoxtrot · 16/02/2012 13:08

Sorry, that was even longer than I thought! Brew all round.

I have been enjoying looking at the links for dresses. I am fairly sure my graduation dress code is black and white, although I don't suppose they will refuse to let me graduate if I turn up in something else. DH might refuse to let me go, though, he is rather a stickler for doing things properly.

On a slightly less glamourous note, where is the best place to get disposable pants from? I was in Mothercare yesterday and they seemed expensive for such unexciting things. Maybe I would be better off just getting real pants from Primark or the like and binning them when I'm done.

Also, and this is going back pages now, I didn't really get any overhang from my csection (although I think I will this time) so those having a first section might escape. However I was still in mat jeans for weeks because anything else felt too tight on my scar. I was constantly pulling them up, though. Maybe this time I will get some braces Grin.

TooImmatureTurtleDoves · 16/02/2012 13:22

Oh Fishcake, that sounds awful! You need to do whatever possible to make sure that doesn't happen again. Sad If my mum had tried to persuade DH he wasn't needed I think there would have been a major row and DH would never have spoken to her again. I hope you can get it sorted out.

Can I ask - did the steroid injection hurt? I read somewhere that they do. Mine are to be booked for the 7th and 8th of March, the days before the section!

Pomme, it is weird that we will all be having babies pretty soon - it still feels a bit unreal to me. Not long now - hope the sweep sets you off!

Wants, Brooking for your sister and baby. Hope the surgery isn't necessary.

I had a consultant appt today and all is well. Bean is now head down (head somewhere over my right hip bone), but not engaged at all. She was kicking like crazy during OBEM last night and actually let DH feel, for once. He was really impressed by the strength of the kicks, because usually she won't kick when he's touching me so he's only felt gentler ones before. Next consultant appt 1 March at 36 weeks, and then steroid injection 1 on 7 March, injection 2 and pre-op checks on 8 March and Bean arriving on 9 March! Excitement!

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fishcakefoxtrot · 16/02/2012 13:31

Not really, Too. I remembered them as being quite sore last time but it really wasn't too bad. The post-section DVT ones though... Wink No, just one in each bum cheek/hip and only a teeny bruise. I am reasonably well padded at the mo though.

However, although the consultant said there are no side effects it can give you hot flushes (which stopped me sleeping) and I think it has made me a wee bit nauseous. It also makes the injection site feel a bit funny- sort of warm. The MW said it can make the baby a bit less active which is why she listened to the heartbeat for me this morning, just for my reassurance- hopefully they would be happy to do that for you too. My bump is pretty wriggly now though!

The 9th March is so soon! Grin

Having typed out my family woes I am now resolved to stand firm! DH is indeed a marvel. I was quite stern with my mum but I think he just regarded it as nonsense and pretty much ignored her- much the best way of dealing with it!

Wants3 · 16/02/2012 13:36

Yes it is baby Oliver! The appointment is at 2.40. So I will update as soon as I hear anything.
fishcake I think I will just buy a couple of packs of cheap cotton large knickers and throw them when I'm done. At least they won't crinkle!

PopcornMouse · 16/02/2012 13:37

Holy mackerel fishcakes that sounds awful - you definitely don't need that sort of stress in your life. And I might be going against the flow, but I don't see why you should pay for them to visit and stay in a B&B ? that's up to them, surely? Hmm

NinjaChipmunk · 16/02/2012 13:54

OMFG fishcake you and your dh have the patience of bloody saints to put up with that! I am genuinely Shock, especially at ...well most of it.
On the subject of pants, I would just get some cheap soft ones from primark that you can chuck. I think I tried disposable ones once and then threw the pack away.
wants brooking your sis and her baby get good news.
Getting excited that more no brooking babies will be arriving soon!

ScreamIfYouWantToGoFaster · 16/02/2012 14:17

Just popping in quickly to say Shock at Fishcake's Mum! Relatives can be so insensitive! Both DH and I have relatives just like that, but fortunately not my Mum. In fact my Mum is pretty formidable, and if any of the annoying relatives try to show up at our house uninvited I'll just give my Mum a call and she'll sort them out sharpish! Grin

No brooking in full force for little Oliver, I'm sure the appt will go well!

Also, I bought my granny pants this morning! M&S's sexiest pants, in super large sexy sizes! I couldn't hold the pants whilst using my crutches so I had to hand them to DH to carry - I don't think our sex life will ever recover! Grin

By the way, are steroid injections always needed before a c-section? I thought steroid injections were only used when birth was expected to happen before 35 weeks? For a scheduled cs at 37 weeks, which is term, why are the injections needed?

Good luck to everyone in their last few weeks!! Soooooooo exciting!

DreamingOfPeace · 16/02/2012 14:31

CS has higher risks of breathing difficulties for the baby scream, Transient Tachypnoea of the Newborn (TTN) so i guess an earlier CS makes it worthwhile for some people? May be too's history too? Most babies who get it only have mild TTN from earlier CS/CS in general but some can have severe breathing difficulties requiring ventilation. Another thing to weigh up... This is why I will definitely try to have them naturally if they are early. (eeek!) Did you see the thread on VB with SPD scream? People with severe SPD recommending giving birth on all fours- including one person who had it very severely and couldn't get around without her crutches from 21 weeks so similar to you? Not that we're doing it, but just in case!

fishcake, how awful of your mum!!!! Shock and all the relatives. Yes, rope the friends in...

I'm too tired to post any more.... but did have a strong fondness for disposable knickers, Boots ones Smile . I need to get some huge ones for this time... for when I do get to my CS date.

Biscuitsandtea · 16/02/2012 14:48

Will post more later - currently in a flurry of trying to clean up from mouse gate and put all the shopping away and cook dinner and .... And .....

But just to say 2 things:

  1. Shock at your Mum and family Fishcake, just Shock!
  1. I've just found cadburys chocolate Philadelphia in Sainsburys. 'Nuff said. Smile

Laters dudes Grin

PopcornMouse · 16/02/2012 14:49

Chocolate Philly? Do tell us moar Shock :d

musicalmrs · 16/02/2012 15:09

Biscuits, I saw chocolate Philly online when doing my grocery shopping! Did you buy any? What's it like? I'm a bit puzzled as to how it will taste.... SOrry to hear about your mouse (mice? Confused ) - hope it all gets sorted soon.

Munx - congrats over here as well! :)

Fishcake, I'd like to join the expressions of Shock at your family. I can't believe your family would expect you to put them up and/or pay for a hotel/B&B for them - seems mad! Your DH must be saintly :)

Went and got my hair cut today - feel a bit rubbish for chickening out and not getting it shorter, but it looks good at least! Also bought a couple more tops and a dress, which should hopefully see me through my last weeks at work (was just about squeezing into some older larger sized tops before HT, but alas, that is no more!). Hopefully now I won't have to be washing and ironing every few days.

Sooo excited that so many brooking babies are due soon! :)

Wants, brooking for baby Oliver.

fishcakefoxtrot · 16/02/2012 15:44

Thank you all for confirming that my mum in particular is indeed bonkers! This time my resolve is set.

Dream thank you for the steriods explanation. The way it was explained to me was that babies born via VB get a good squeezing which helps the lungs to clear out the gunk and generally get going and obviously CS babies don't get this and so up to about 37 weeks benefit from steriods to help mature the lungs. I get the impression I was given the layman's version!