little kicks and a bit less sick - half way to June 2012

[Kveta]

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Thanks rhi he said LO was the perfect size for what he should be- he's 1lb 8 ounces (which I thought was quite a lot!!!) and is kicking away. I'm 24 weeks today. He seems fine but I'm just worried in case he comes really early.....

Warlin Were you told what the chances were of him coming early? Hopefully he will stay in there until he should come out.

Novmama very good point about being too hot in those shirts, I can't stand over heating..in which case I will follow the splendid example of others more experienced than me on here and go naked! ...although I won't necessarily start that way..might scare the midwife!

Warlin let's hope your little man is just exploring in there and just checking out the exit for when he needs it.....I have everything crossed for you that he stays put a good while longer. Plus that's great news that he's a perfect size. That did make me laugh though when you said he was holding his penis , bet he's going to be a right little character :)

Well the working from home was going well, but it appears that sitting still is what brings on my fainting :( After just an hour of going through my emails I was all light headed again (explains why driving was such a problem). Going for a walk around helps, so I am doing short spells at the PC inter-spaced with wandering about with a cup of tea...at least I am getting some work done I guess.

There's officially a cheeky monkey (aubergine sized baby) in my belly. The hyperactivity continued at today's midwife app. When she tried to listen to the heartbeat she could only hear it faintly because baby was moving about so much. Whenever she got close to getting a better sound baby just punched the doppler. Could even see my belly move when it was kicking. What a rascal. All good though, 25cm fundal hight at 25 weeks so spot on :o

It's really lovely that you have popped your head in greengoose. Sorry to hear you are going through so much stress. As others have said it does sound like you're being looked after really well and that you have a good plan for the birth and surgery. Poor mite going through all that, but she won't know and before you know it she'll be home as right as rain :)

I'll have a look at that group Novmama. I'm in South East London/Kent (Bromley) and the NCT class prices freaked me out. We'll be going along to the NHS ones but i'm open to any other recommendations at a good price.

Kayzr - poor you with that happening on your door step. Things like that shake me up too. Hope your feeling better now.

Warlin - try not to worry about bambino being head down, I'm unsure why you have been told this is likely to make him come any sooner? My DD was head down this Point last time, and my DS is now. DD was born at 38+6.

Enjoying the lovely spring like weather today. Hope the rest of you are well. X

good evening everyone! I am popping in quickly to see whether you managed to get some enjoyment out of the weather today. Where I am in Surrey we had +18c (according to my car on the way to the walk with the dog) and we had amazing time throwing and retrieving a toy from the lake in one of the royal parks. absolutely fabulous!!!

i also looked at nct classes despite promising myself not to do it this time round. it is close to 200gbp, so a lot of money which we do not have... given that i am under consultant care and have a good idea of what is likely to happen under various scenarios i really prefer to go for something like hypnobirthing but it looks like we do not have any reasonable classes here - they are all 350 and upwards for a place in a group!

regarding the birthing shirts - they are so super lux it is unreal, but i plan to get a lot more wear out of them than for the birth alone. they are great for wearing already now, but take my earlier post "for what it is worth" as it should be... another piece of personal recommendation - boots, asda and sainsbury's all have some sort of parenting clubs that i have joined. i picked my huggies newborn pack with the 5£off voucher printable at home today. boots have a points system that amounts to 10% off and some freebies (still waiting for the voucher pack) and the same with sainsbury's (voucher pack including their own newborn nappy pack worth 10£)... maybe someone will find this info useful!

greengoose sending all the hugs and support to you!! you know we are all here with sympathetic ears/eyes whether you need to share your worries or your good news! it does sound like you are in good hands, but i understand if knowing this alone is not enough

just found out my aunt has got days left to live :( my poor mum is beside herself, her sister is 12 years older than her and was like a second mum. And my nan is nearly 100, frail, and has just sold her house so she can move to sheltered accommodation, so a lot going on in her life right now. Not sure what to say/do, but hoping to see my mum over the weekend as she's coming down to visit aunt (if she gets there in time). So shitty :(

sorry, needed to share with someone, and nobody else to talk to really.

Hello, dc2 due June 5. My ds is three is April. I had a mc in July last year so have been very anxious this pregnancy especially following three bleeds and lots of pain. But now moved from miscarriage fear to preterm baby fear lol! Any support and encouragement much appreciated.

oh, kveta please talk about it! I am so sorry about all the pain your family is going through. having lost v close family members myself (and having nursed my once v sick dh back to life) i know how shitty it is to have to bury all the pain inside...
will your mum stay with you over the weekend or will she be stopping by?

Kveta so sorry to hear that. I hope your Mum gets there in time. Please please feel free to come and talk to us if you need to. Thinking of you. X

Hi all,

Sorry for absence. Back to work this week and don't seem to be able to stay awake long enough in the evenings for any quality web time! Will have to try and refine my skiving skills at work, because at this rate I have no hope of keeping up!

Hi to all newbies!

Kveta - I'm so sorry to hear about your aunt. Thinking of you, and please keep talking if you need us.

Amethyst - hope you're on the mend. And thanks for sharing your fainting story with us. It's a good warning that, even if we worry that we're being a bit wimpy at times, we do need to take care of ourselves!

Warlin - I've no advice for you I'm afraid, but I hope you're OK.

Greengoose - good to meet you and good to know that you're there.

Chateau and Amethyst - well, I'm still feeling very squished! People keep telling me I have a nice neat bump. Apparently they mean that it's all quite compact and not sticking out in weird directions. But the thing is, it's all got to go somewhere, and I think I'd forego a neat bump if it meant I could have a bit more room for my stomach, lungs and bladder! Dalrymps I envy you your pancakes! I love pancakes, but had absolutely no room for any at all! I've basically decided to give up on the idea of having an evening meal, and just graze through the day before eating something like a toddler-sized portion. Which means my plan for splashing out on at least one good pre-baby romantic meal with DH is a non-starter!

Novmama - yes, I'm starting to get a bit tearful. It's DH's birthday coming up soon, and I'd really like to get him something nice, because he's been so fantastic throughout the pregnancy, and he never treats himself, so I'd like to spoil him. Have just been emailing a friend for advice on a potential present, and in explaining all this to him, I found myself having a little weep. Very soppy! Ahem.

But if I start to feel down from feeling squishy/breathless/itchy/tired etc., I'm just going to think of Kveta's DS in a bumblebee costume!

Big hello and hug to everyone I haven't mentioned. xxx

My nice story of the week - DH got a kick on the nose the other night. Good stuff. With that mental image, I think I'll leave and say goodnight!

kveta so sorry to hear your news. My thoughts are with you.

kayzr blimey, that sounds like one hell of an experience to get over. I hope you're feeling better.

warlin i'm like that too. Bump has been head down since we first met her and knowing my luck just at the crucial moment she'll decide to turn completely around! At my cardio scan last week the consultant said 'you do know you're going to have problems with this one don't you?' which initially scared the crap out of me but she hurriedly went on to say bump was one of the most un-cooperative babies she'd had to scan in a while! Don't stress about positions now. They'll be doing plenty of somersaults between now and June (which doesn't seem that far away anymore'!

greengoose lovely to hear from you. Am so sorry you're not having the easiest of times but it sounds like you're in very reassuring hands. Please come back and have a whenever you like, you're a standing stone of the original thread!

Hope everyone is getting over their horrible bugs, ffnorm, novmamma and amethyst. Make sure you're taking it easy.

We've been doing some steady ebay purchasing so feeling a little more prepared. We're not doing birthing classes this time but I am intending to be alot more prepared in terms of reading about birthing techniques and looking into natal hypnobirthing. With DD1 I was in denial until I was 5 cm dilated and was convinced it couldn't possibly be labour but I was just constipated . Even got DH to phone the labour ward to ask if he could buy me laxatives which they firmly said no to and advised him to get me there ASAP! This time around I suspect I won't be so ignorant so want to look into methods that won't make me focus on the pain. From what I've read hypnobirthing seems a sensible option.

Was wondering if any previous 'labourers' had any thoughts on TENS machines and their usefulness?

Nearly Friday girls. I'm blagging a lie in as soon as I can!

Am knackered but wanted to login before bed and see how everyone was... here goes...

Greengoose :) :) Really, really appreciate your letting us know how you and DD are doing :) We had missed you and all shop related news too! It sounds as though you are in professional and safe hands and your DD will be absolutely fine by the sounds of it all. I hope the boys are well and that you finding a little time for yourself. Cannot imagine how busy life is for you at the moment. I really hope to hear more from you as and when time permits. You are in my prayers, fingers crossed and here for you if only virtually! Sending a huge hug ....

K - Sorry to hear about your aunt :(

Novmama - How are you feeling now? I think we all get those kind of days, pregnancy can be so exhausting not to mention work and children. Please take it easy on yourself. I had a really crappy few days last week and I cried a lot too, felt worn out and a bit of a mess really. I'm sorry about your parents comments I don't know if its their age, my ILS come out with crackers like that too try not to take it to heart though. Let us know how you r tomorrow :) Haven't much choice in the matter but will be having elective c-s. After emergency with DS1 the elective was wonderful with DS2.

Warlin love the confirmation of having a boy bump! :)

Will post again tomorrow as 1 phone call later I've forgotten where I was!

K and Bemybebe Will email you both recipes at weekend they are a mixture of my favourite Good Housekeeping ones and random net ones.

Oh, had obstetric appt today and have been given my c-s date!!!! :)
I don't think I should advertise it though, i feel its unfair but have put myself back a good few days -- is weird to see date on paper.

Talk tomorrow and i'm sorry that i haven't commented on last posts other than those above, will do later xx

Thank you ecs

I can't sleep. My nose is completely blocked and nothing I try seems to work. I'm sat with the news on with a cup of boots lemsip stuff and holding it under my nose.

But baby is having a really good kick and wriggle which is nice as I can just sit here.

thanks all. I'm not even that close to my aunt, but mum is, and we were told a few weeks ago that her prognosis was good for the short term. so this is a big shock. I just wish I could do something, but as my parents are hightailing it down south (from Glasgow), and my aunt and Nan live down in Sussex, there's not a huge amount I can do. Especially with a 2 year old in tow. I hate this feeling of impotence though. I've never experienced a bereavement before (not as an adult, anyway) so have no idea how to help mum. Last death in our family was over 20 years ago (was my grandfather, mum's dad). I'm scared now for Nan (she's 98 next month and not in great health) and therefore for mum. Also wish I was closer to my cousins, so I could help them. (one is down south, the other in Taiwan!)

I didn't sleep at all last night either Kayzr, and baby isn't very mobile at the moment. I asked on the pg board about insomnia in pg, and a lot of folk suggested hypnobirthing CDs to listen to - may be worth a try once your cold sods off. For a blocked nose, have you tried steam? I just boiled water in a pan on the stove and stuck my head over it. Not massively effective, but with a dod of vic's vaporub, it should work.

thanks ecstatica :) great that you got your c-section date, I wish I knew when baby would be born, I hate the uncertainty. In our family, boys are always late (except my nephew, but sister is diabetic, so he was induced early) and huge, and girls in my generation were always early and petite, but my mum and her sisters were all late and huge. So nothing to go on there! Same on DH's side of the family, all late and huge babies. Joy. Anyway, baby should be out by June 19th at the very latest, so I'm pinning my hope on that date.

Kveta - I do feel for you. It's frustrating when you desperately feel you want to be supporting the people you love, but you don't have any way of turning that into practical help. There's probably not much you can do, but I'm sure it's enough for you mum to know that you're there and you're thinking about her. And maybe just ask her to let you know if she does think of anything you can do to help? Likewise with your nan and cousins. Even if you're not close to your cousins, I'm sure if you let them know that you're thinking of them, that will mean a lot to them.

Morning all!

kveta so sorry to hear about your aunt. Hope your mum will be ok when she comes down. It's horrible when things happen out of the blue like that...makes life seem to fragile.

Amethy hope yo're feeling a bit better today. Def right to stay home nad try and rest.

Mama at the cheeky monkey story. my consultant was trying to measure blood flow through the cord and LO kept kicking it out of the way! Was lovely to watch :)

bemy thanks for all the voucher ideas!

kayzr hopw you're feeling less shaken by the incident yest and yes def best not to wonder about the "what if.."

Thanks everyone for the reassurance around low head down bump. Think I'm just worried about the fact he is so low down...but I seem to just worry about one thing after another so maybe I'm worrying over nothing

No sleep for me last night. Was sleeping like a baby until DH came in from drinks with a friend and proceeded to snore incredibly loudly and take over my half of the bed. Was getting really stroppy but all the kicks and shoves in the world couldn't move him

Aw well it's Friday (whoop whoop!!).

Just one more day of work to get through.

Hi to everyone else I haven't mentioned....x

kveta sorry to hear your news, i came on for same reason as my nan passed away this morning, it was relief for her in end but i feel completely useless about how to help my grandfather bless him he's 88 she 84 they've been married 68 years my mum seems to be coping really well thankfully, i hope your Aunt is being kept comfortable and your mum gets to say her goodbyes xxx

oh no rhi :( I'm sorry to hear that. 68 years is an incredible time to be together, I hope he is ok. do you live near them? hope you can be of some comfort to your grandfather at this time. x

thankskveta i'm only five minute walk away so's mum and uncle and sister, cousins we lucky we all so nearby,i'm just worried he'll give up now as he's had 3 strokes himself and is bedbound, he's a stubborn old man though refuses to move in with any of the family,my nan been almost constantly in hospital last 2 years so at least he used to her not being at home, just remembered bought my nan mothers day cards on wednesday and she wont be here on mothers day now or get to meet new great grandchild, sorry to rant especially when you going through similar yourself xxx

just read about your blocked nose kveta i bought a visiq facial sauna with nasal attachment from argos which really helps when i use euculyptus oil with it great short term relief for sinisitus

rhi don't worry about it, please do talk as much as you want about your nan and grandfather. I was having similar thoughts - that my aunt won't see her grandchildren grow up and won't have great grandchildren. It's sad :( however, she is 70, so has had a long life, and has filled it with doing good - she was a head teacher, and very involved in the local community, especially through her church. So she has had a positive influence on many many lives, which is a nice way to remember her.

just waiting to hear from my mum, they are on their way south, but not sure how long they'll take to get there. They may be coming back via us, to see DS as they haven't seen him since November. Not sure at the moment though.

anyway, enough of this morbidity.

have a good weekend, those of you who are less bereaved than rhi and I! :)

Sorry to hear of your loss too rhi. Hope you and kveta are ok. It's horrible when it happens. I have no grandparents left but remember when each one of them died. Mine too had been married for 60+ years and it was heartbreaking for them.

My parents are early 60s and I consider them young and sprightly but your storeis are a apainful reminder that they won't always be around.

This is a morbid thread today....makes you just want to appreciate life while you have it...and every new baby is a reminder that previous generations (including ours) are getting older.

Right that's my philisophical thought for the day. flowers to you both.

Must get back to work...really can't get motivated today as wrecked. Our office is on 3 levels and just walked to the ground floor and back up to my 3rd floor office and I'm panting away :) Such a nice day outside but not sure I have the energy to venture out

ecstatica congrats on the date!! How exciting