Twins Club 3!! All welcome :-)

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Hello to everyone expecting twins!
Join us here for some mutual reassurance

MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID,
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
silverangel #1+2 Sophie, 3lb3 & Alice3lb1 born at 31+2 on 01/08/11 EMCS
PrincessScrumpy #2 & 3, girls
BB3, #2&3 (#1 DS) DCDA girls born 20.09.11 by EMCS at 37 weeks exactly - Edith-May 5lb 11.5oz and Ayse-Rose 6lb 1oz.

PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling #1+2 EDD, DCDA, Boy and Girl, Born 14 Sept
Twinnerves, DCDA, #2&3, girls Francesca and Isabella, born 18/11/11 EMCS 6lbs 6 oz and 6lbs 9.5oz
xkatyx , ID girls, DC 8,5,9months, EDD 21/12/11
Quempin #1&2 EDD 27/1/12, ID surprise
Ravenlocks DCDA, #1&2, EDD 28/01/12
Tabbycatt, DCDA, 2 boys, DC 2 & 3, EDD 30/1/12
Claireinmodena DCDA, Boy & Girl, DC 3 & 4 (!!), EDD 23/02/12
Dreamfeeder, DCDA, DC 2 & 3, EDD 12/4/12
BigBoobsAtLast, MCDA, DC 2&3 EDD
CarrieInAnotherTWOBabiTWINS DCDA DC 2&3, EDD 28/06/12
Caesnake, DCDA, DC 2&3, EDD

Here you go dream beyonce

Afternoon all - anyone got the snow yet? V.small flakes have just started falling here.

Thanks for all the Moses basket advice. We're going to try them as we've ordered cot beds for the nursery supplant to use the baskets downstairs during the day and in our room at night for the first few weeks. I'm with you though Dreaming and Rednellie, think they should move in to their own room asap for everyone's benefit. Love the John Lewis one BB, me being fussy though really wanted cream. So we were out this morning and picked up some really plain non fussy ones from M&P. Glad thats sorted.

Rednellie, great vision of your dd in the drawer, am very much looking forward to experiencing moments like that .

The whole size thing is funny isn't it, how we're all different. I don't care what people comment about my size, am just a bit scared about just how big I'll get! Am just less than 26 weeks and waist is 39" .

Lilyni, some people are just so thoughtless when they open their mouths, tell them where to go!! I think it's amazing we're all having/had 2 babies . Yes it was a massive shock at first but now I couldn't imagine just having one. I think we're all members of a very special club.

There's a surprising number of twins clubs, I've found one not too far from me that I'm definitely going to pop in to once I start ML. We're also doing a twins ante-natal class, which is good and have met 4 really nice other couples who are local'ish. I think a couple of us might stay in touch.

I missed the Beyonce story as well (am a fan too), not sure about that crib though?!?!?!?!

Dreaming, chicken pox is doing the rounds down here at the moment, so you could be lucky or with everything else maybe unlucky for dd to get it out of the way now.

BB, love the pics of your little ladies, so so cute and with the others, would love to see more. My best friend is a professional photographer and had a little boy 3 weeks ago, so took him in to the studio this week and took some dreamy pics.

Goingmad, you probably are feeling movements, I got the fluttery type ones early at about 13-14 weeks. Kept telling myself it was just wind but soon knew it wasn't. I still can't tell who's who when I'm getting an internal beating now though.

Bigboobs, hope you're having a great weekend .

Right am going to post this now but on the iPad and scared of losing again, so no flicking back and checking.

Hope everyone is having a nice if chilly weekend .

Hi everyone,

Hurray skitoo, mn didn't eat your post again! (it once did it to me three times in a row, I was ridiculously cross...!) We've also ordered cotbeds for their bedroom, but hoping to have one in our room to start with with them both in it. If it fits...

The Beyonce crib, if that really is what they've got is hideous imo!!! SO over the top. Don't like the wheels- am I missing something?! Imagine giving birth there in that suite...

It has rained pretty much all day here and for the first time in I don't know when DD and I didn't leave the house- was worried about bad diarrhoea out ad about, but actually she's been ok today. Think I've got cabin fever, my cold is still bugging me, and I don't think it's good for me staying in all day. I have just been busy getting myself worked up about everything birth and coping with twins and DD related... If I don't have a twin carrier, what are you meant to do if you go out to toddler groups etc? A couple of the places we go to are pretty big, where I don't know most/lots of the other people, and wouldn't want to leave the babies unattended but then how would I be able to supervise DD?? Neither buggy will take car seats, so physically getting round with all three won't be easy, DD is not of a suitable age and level of sense to walk snesibly nect to me- she'd leg it, or want picking up etc etc. (what do you do bb3?) And I'm so tired, even without leaving the house, that I'm worrying about how I will be at the end of the pregnancy. And the list goes on!! Most of them are stupid worries, and I do know there's no point in worrying about things that may or may not happen... But I don't seem to be able to stop! That sounds really ungrateful- I do really really want both my boys to arrive happy and healthy and feel much more connected to them already than I did when I was pregnant first time (maybe because I can actually imagine having a newborn and family life etc?! I don't mean DD was in any way unplanned or unwanted, it all just seemed more unreal with her) but I wish I was a bit less of a worrier.

9 days to go claire!!!! keep thinking of you!!!

hope your hen weekend is going brilliantly bigboobs and your DD is having fun with daddy and not missing you too much.

Ha ha, that Beyonce cot is priceless. Very hip hop.

We've just said goodbye to the last of our party guests - we had a lovely party for DD. 2 hours, lots of kiddie food and then we sang songs and they all buggered off. Perfect! I'm clearly not quite with it with children's parties though as one of the older kids (she's about 4) asked DH where the 'loot bags' were. Being British he looked very confused and thought she was asking for tea bags which he dutifully bought her until her Mom explained she was asking about the party bags...Ooops. I think they're quite a big deal here in Canada, do people do this in the UK? I remember when I was little getting a slice of cake and a balloon, but things may have escalated since then...

dream I think what you have to do is start reigning in some of the activities you guys get up to, or adapting them. You will get more tired and for the first few months after the babies are born you wont be able to do everything you can now. I've adapted by doing just one activity a day that involves leaving the house. The rest of the time we do stuff, mainly based around the sofa so I can sit and play with DD, but also be 'resting'. I've stopped going to playgrounds as I can't chase her/help her up ladders and swings and stuff and we now tend to have a VERY predictable timetable - Monday swimming, Tuesday and Wednesday she has nursery for 3 hrs in the morning, Thursday I've got my dance group and then Friday is free for chilling at home. DH does more exciting things with her on the weekend, and to see friends I always either go to their houses or they come to mine so we don't have to worry about chasing after the LO's and you know the environment is safe. There is no way I could cope with a play centre or similar right now. I took DD to the aquarium just before Christmas (big draw in Vancouver) and she got totally over stimulated then ran away from me into the gift shop. As I was so slow she managed to get to the jewelry section and caused some (minor) damage. After that I just thought - she wont miss going to those places until she's older, I can't look after her properly at them, let's just give it a miss.

So yeah, don't be hard on yourself, just give yourself enough stimulation that you don't go bonkers, but have enough time just to play and relax.

Btw, I know I've made myself sound like a cripple, but weirdly I can still dance (I think just because I love it so much and it's different from walking), so here is a link to me dancing about two weeks ago. We are a group of mums who all have danced/are dancers and have small children and this was just an improvisation thingie I did, normally I've got DD climbing all over me too, but this one time I got a chance just to go for it! (Btw, I know this kind of thing isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I'm quite proud of it really and it'll be a nice thing to show the kids when they're older - look there's your embarrassing mother prancing around!)

Wiw rednellie I'm really impressed!! I am never that graceful and definitely not if I'm pregnant!

dream I'm with rednellie on the scaling down expectations. Even if you just had the twins there would so many things you couldnt do it on your own, but with a toddler as well therd is just no way!

I remember taking dd1 anaa classmate to they playground when they were 5 anc dd2 18 months and finding it extremely stressful to keep an eye on all 3 of them. I didnt do it again for a loooing time, abc my friend with twins did not go to the park on her own until her dcs were 2&1/2.

My gitls have a 3&1/2 year gap and for the first 12 months dd2's life revolved mainly around dd1's schedule, she was dragged everywhere and plonked on her car seat.(things changed big time oncd dhe startd walking though)! But I just cant imagine doing the samd with two car seats or a massive double buggy! And what if they both cry at the same when you're on your own and you also have a potentially disappearing toddler??

Sorry dont want to scare you, its just some if the things I've been thinking since finding out it was twins. I have realised some things will just not be possible for a while and thats that.

Or go out with friends as much as possible, which is what my friends does, since most of our children are older we help her keep an eye on them as they invariably decide to run off in two different directions

Just be easy on yourself, go out on walks to get fresh air, dont demand too much of yourself!

Had my app with anesthetist yesterday snd she went into a but more detail about the cs, so I'm back into a selfpitying trip . Appardntly it can take about an hour to be stitched back together (cringe) and 2-3 hours before you can ve on your feet again
So I feel like I'm back to square one in terms of accepting this it. What I want to do is throwing all my toys out of the pram, stamp my feet and have a proper tantrum!

So please feel free to tell me to get my act together and stop whinging as I'm behaving like a spoilt child .

Hello everyone else I've missed, sorry but on phone again and cant remember all the posts. Hope you're all having a nice weekend!

Ah claire, totally sympathise about wanting to throw a tantrum, I'm with you there. But there are some positives...it's actually good that they said 2-3 hrs to get you up and about. In the bad old days you would have been in bed for ages - here they force you to walk around after 6 hrs as it helps with healing/stops you getting blood clots. And I didn't realise it took so long to stitch up until I started reading about c-sections. It does seem like a long time, but I guess the important thing is finding out what they do with the babies in that time. Can your DH have them outside (I know you said they wont let him in the operating theatre)? It would be ideal if after they come out and you see them, he can cuddle them until you're in the recovery room. (Can you tell I've been doing research since Thursday?!)

This is quite a good link for some ways they could make sections more family orientated, I'm not sure what your doctors would go for, but might be worth asking them: C-section

The other thing I forgot to say to you dream was that it's going to be such a short period where the twins are little that any adjustments you make aren't going to be for long. I'm finding that the most reassuring thing this time round - when I look at DD turning 2 this week and how far she is from being a baby it makes me realise that stage is so SHORT. I vote for hibernating and enjoying those little babas whilst they still are babas. x

Blimey rednellie it's great you can still do that, if I'd bent over like that at the end of my pg they would have had to winch me up with a crane

Claire my hospital policy was 12 hours bed rest all hooked up to catheter etc post op - it was without doubt the worst thing about cs, 12 hour sat on your own gunk, so if I'm reading it right then the timing isn't so bad unless during that time you can't see dh or babies xx (sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick!)

Dream I wrote a post earlier and deleted it as I didn't want to sound negative but realistically you won't be able to do as much when the boys come - at least not for a while. Ive only been out a handful of times by myself with all three children (pram, buggy board and k's rucksack reigns strapped to my wrist just in case he ever runs off) and it's completely doable but I can't imagine a toddler group setting by myself, could you go with a friend so one can one babies, the other toddlers? The beginning was harder for k who was used to going out every day as bar a walk down the village, we didn't do much at all for the first 4/5 weeks but you won't really feel like doing it iyswim. Things will change and you'll adapt and will be a great mummy to all three of your babies, just don't put too much pressure on yourself to carry on everything you're doing now post babies. Maybe dh cam have the boys and once / twice a week depending on his working hours you and dd could do an activity from pre-babies (be it park, zoo, clubs etc) so she has that time with you x

BB3 it was whatshe said in reply to my question: hiw ling it took for epidural to wear off, she said I would unable to move for at least 3 hours even if I get some feeling back in my legs before that. So maybe there will be other issues why I cant be mobild but I havent been told!

And yes dh will be able to look after the babies, as he can watch while they do weigh ins, apgar scores etc and be with with them. Oh well maybe this time he'll feel more confident about looking after a newborn as he's never wanted to change the girls until they were a few months old! it might actually turn out to be a good thing for me.

Ah ok, I was in ward by 1am and by 4-5am ish I was dying to get up but they made me stay until 11.30, was horrid but in the end I demanded they unhook me or I'd do it myself. I wouldn't push yourself but the sooner you're up and gently walking the better (and the sooner you can shower / go home) although no lifting babies too soon! Re stitching, mine took about 10-15 minutes but depending on how complicated cutting is it can take more, hopefully they'll be able to cut cleanly through each layer then sew up quickly afterwards, I wasn't aware of that going on as I had the girls up by my head, will they do that with you before taking off to dh?

I'm not sure, but with my friend she was shown them briefly anc taken to another room while she was stitched up. But gers were also liw weight (36 wks) and one had to go to neonatal unit, so might be different? I'm gojbg in tmrw morning to check heartbeats and will ask! I'm terrible wiyh questions , i gave z mental list and when I'm in hospital I seem to forget everything, I really shoukd just write them down!

Take that list from that article - they probably wont go for everything, but at least you'll get some answers. My mate with the 6 year old twins (she is my source of all twin knowledge) had her babies taken off as both needed a bit of extra help, but she says she still wishes she'd put her foot down about skin to skin and making it clear she wanted to attempt bf as soon after the birth as possible. (I'm terrible at not asking questions as I don' want to look like I'm being a pain, but I go in now with my notepad and ask away...am sure the OB sighs everytime he sees it now!)

Gulp... I think I have truly been in denial about how hard life after twins will be. I know DD'll never remember when she's older if I cut down on her activities and outings, but I dread the thought... With not going out for one day yesterday DD refused her nap, then finally dropped off later in the afternoon as too tired to get through the day without one and so we had to adjust bedtime accordingly etc etc and I need to get her out and about and worn out to try and manage our tricky sleep situation... Unless i have a miracle turn-around in the next 9 weeks, but no signs of it yet. I spoke to my dad in tears and he and his wife have very, very generously decided to bequeath DH and I some of the money from my Grandpa's Will when it comes through, so we can get some help. This is definitely going to include a cleaner, and now maybe some childcare too- either a morning/day at nursery for DD, or someone to come in and help me with the 3/ have the twins while I take DD out/ take DD out while I have the twins etc etc. Early days seeing as we've just started thinking about it today, but knowing it could be an option is a relief- though I have no idea what it could actually cost!

Really useful to hear your experiences bb3 and claire, reality check for me. I think I've been very much of the 'oh, it'll be fine once we get there' regarding groups, going to the playground etc but actually, when I think of the practicalities, all it would take is the friend's child to be ill or them have other plans and not go and I'm stuck in or coping alone. And it's not practical to be supervising a rampaging toddler and two little babies bearing in mind you can't be in 2 places at once and everyone else is supervising their own child/ren there too.

Not I've managed to cut down on DD's activities... she's so blooming energetic it's exhausting but I have to take her somewhere in the morning to get her tired enough for her nap, then we generally go out puddle-stamping, or to the playground (she's remedial rednellie, walked at 10 months but never crawled and can't climb) so I just play peepo games with her around equipment, and push her on the swings and scuttle up and down a walkway with her checking she doesn't try and jump off at the fireman's pole opening/rope ladder opening etc... So not too bad, but I think it worsening the tiredness and Braxton-Hicks. Although bedtime without this is much harder. I'm a bit stuck between a rock and a hard place. (i'd hibernate if it didn't affect DD's sleep, but I can almost guarantee it will) And this is with help from my parents, who are still coming up and doing the 100mile round trip once a week each to help me- so to be fair, 2 mornings/afternoons, I have help getting her to activities and with the supervising whilst there.

so enough of the me me me

rednellie, I'm so impressed, I've never imagined a heavily pregnant person could dance so graceflly as I couldn't even when not pg . Does your DD go too and dance with you, or does she stay at home with a babysitter? wow anyway.

claire, it's great your dh can have the babies while you're being stitched up- I had heard its usually less than 10 minutes to get them out, and then up to 45 min to get stitched up again, so an hour ish total, sometimes just under, depends on your doctor. It's still not great (although less time than I was away from DD in theatre for being stitched up after my VB!!! 1hr 15). Especially for you who's had 2 good births already. I can totally understand your tantrum. I wasn't on my feet for way more than 2-3 hours after my VB and op, epidural took about 4-5 hours to wear off fully, then I'd lost too much blood so was very shakey and nearly fainted dd in arms, so ordered back to bed- so again- not something that would overly worry me after a CS as it'd be no differnet to my last VB!!! Definitely take your list, i meet doctors socially all the time, so I'd have thought I'd be less over-whelmed over asking questions maybe, but no, I go blank every time I go in and come out thinking 'I wish I'd asked that!'

Hope bigboobs had a lovely hen weekend and everyone else's bumps/babies are doing well.

Ah dream, don't be scared by it all, I think you've got to think of it as changing the activities rather than stopping them all together. It rains a lot here so we have all sorts of indoor running about things we do - end up using the whole house as a playground. And just going to a friends house can be stimulation enough to get them to nap later. Also, another positive, we're heading into summer so you can always go somewhere outside that's protected (I don't know if you've got a garden...), set up a picnic blanket for you and twins and DD can run around you and play games etc. Don't be too down, it will be fine! Having my DD at nursery two mornings a week has been amazing - she loves it, I love it and it is only 6 hrs total out of the whole week so I don't feel guilty about it and it doesn't cost much...

The dance thing is a continuation of project we did last year where we organised a 'stroller dance flashmob'! Hilarious - lots of mums with babies in their buggies doing a sort of country dance, in public. Anyway, there was a hard core of us who wanted to continue meeting/exploring what we could do with the babies and we've gone from there. DD loves it and dances around, or plays musical instruments - its all very relaxed and non-choreographed. We always start and end with a sing song. She sleeps well those days! Thank you for all the lovely compliments.

Dreaming, it is hard but rednellie has hit the nail on the head, it's changing and adapting not stopping all together so for example ds goes to nursery twice a week for three hours a day rather than me take him to play group, If he's tired and won't sleep I'll bung them all in buggies and walk them until he sleeps, if he has too much energy I'll bung him on his bea (reign backpack) and he walks beside me andrhw girls and I gabble on to him about what we can see while he picks up sticks and splashes in puddles. He has a lot of garden time when the weather is ok and he will be out playing while girls are inside and I flick between the two, we go to parks etc on the weekend when dh is home and once a week either dh or I take him out on his own, swimming, soft play or something similar. He still does a lot, really just not dedicated around him. I think you should use the mornings your parents come to take dd to activities like playgroup / soft play.

Sorry pressed send to soon

And the rest of the week play it by ear. I always time activity round ds he doesn't nap but if we go out in car / buggy he inevitably falls asleep in such case it has to be in the morning so I'm not up until midnight!

First day back at work, predictably the girls had a nightmare night, I got all of 2 hours sleep and only because my mum came and took the girls at 3 this morning! Must remember to buy her some flowers today. It's not their fault they are both poorly with upset tummies and coughs, Edie was rushed to hospital Saturday night with breathing difficulties and is on inhalers three times a day until her lungs clear, she sounds like she smokes 90 a day but is a million percent better than she was saturday. I've had enough of this winter bug now - time for it to leave my babies alone!

argh dream don't worry im sure you'll adapt just fine, at least your thinking about things now so could plan some activities in find out when and where in advance, and its great your dad is going to help you out; i reckon putting ddi into nursery of some sort would work well, it would also mean she would get into a routine and worn out on those days as well as getting to meet some new friends :)

Claire wow isn't it only 8 days??? then you get to.meet your babies, try not to focus on the cs easier said than done, i haven't been through it but i imagine it goes quicker than it actually is, lets hope so and at least dh gets to supervise the arrivals x

bb3 good luck for today so horrible your girls are unwell i hope today isn't too draining for you let us know how you get on the:)

rednellie love the dance vid wish i was that graceful!!!

I've got my consultant appointment and scan tomorrow, a little nervous but mostly as I've started to buy things cause lots of baby events on, just get nervous ill jinks things cause:(

have a good day everyone :)

Oh BB3, I'm so sorry. Hope the girls are doing ok today. It's blooming typical for it to happen now when your DH is away and you're back working. Anyway, sending get well wishes your way. Stupid winter bugs!

goingmad - good luck with scans. You can't jinx anything, don't worry about that. Let us know how it goes. xx

agree goingmad, you can't jinx anything (and of course, I have never extensively worried about the same thing myself!) hope the scan is lovely tomorrow, fill us in ASAP!

oh bb3, what a nightmare, poor Edie. Glad she's slightly better, and at least she's at home. Your children deserve some good health now... Thank goodness for your mum- although 2 hours is hardly sufficient sleep to breeze back into work and look totally efficient and like it's no problem having twins and a toddler at home- not for me anyway... Good luck, hope you get through the day ok.

My DD slept all night last night, from about her usual 9pm ish to 7:30, it was so lovely- though i managed to go to bed really late- in one of those too tired to actually go to bed moods. Stupid! And she's napping now- even better. (pretending I won't have to wake her soon...). I have posted on the childcare section here as I have no idea how to look at getting some help, but I do know you're right- we'll of course be doing things in different ways once the babies are here, but I want to enjoy them all too- especially if these are my last babies . So still thinking of some paid childcare with the generous donation from my dad.

Final countdown claire, is it a week today? How are you feeling?

good luck goingmad for tomorrow - it will be lovely for you to see the babies. I have just started to buy little bits and pieces - cant bring myself to buy the big stuff yet - maybe in a couple of weeks - I cant even remember what Ill need!!!!

BB3 - hope you had a good first day at work - you deserve a medal with only a couple of hours sleep. Hope the girls are better soon.

dreaming - glad your dd slept well last night - hopefully a sign of things to come!

rednellie - WOW - loving the dancing - fantastic!!! wish I had that much energy!!

All quiet with me - feeling overwhelmed by everything at the minute & things a bit tense with DH - think we are both just stressed by the thought of whats to come.

Lilyni, me and DH had a moment in Ikea yesterday (there's nothing like going to Ikea to test a marriage). We were buying a single bed for my Mum as she's coming to stay for a bit and he just got incredibly grumpy and eventually I managed to weedle it out of him that he was mourning his youth and financial freedom! As a caveat, DH is an amazing man and has literally taken over looking after our household from cooking and cleaning to doing the bedtime routine so he's not a shirker at all. BUT he just can't get used to the fact we have to spend most of our money on stuff we need/have to have, rather than on stuff we want - in his case, lots of snowboarding gear, a car or computer games (mental age of 15...)

He got really depressed about it and I felt terrible as I was always the one who instigated talking about babies and now we're going to have a few more than we intended...anyway, it's all fine. I guess what I'm trying to say is it is a stressful time, but in the long run it will be worth it. I keep reminding him he'll need all these kids to look after him when he's old and grey.

And as an aside, thank you all for the compliments, I have to add that I can't actually get up off the sofa now without being winched. DH can't understand how I can dance, but not walk or move around the house. I think there must be some kind of mind over matter stuff....Oh, and I've got swollen feet and hands and after being totally smug about not having any stretch marks my tummy now looks like a map of Greater London. Bum!

BB3 how was your day today? So sorry to hear about the illnesses again, what a way to go back to work! Hopefully they'll get better soon!

goingmad good luck with scan tomorrow, and do not worry you won't be jinxing things!

dream good to hear you finally managed a good nights sleep! good luck with childcare!

rednellie LOL at Ikea fights, we have had so many of those! and even more once home while assembling the furniture! We have got better now, hardly any arguments in Ikea and then I let him get on with it so he can't shout at me when I get it wrong thing if he asks to hold "that thing"

He's definitely not ready to have these babies home and you should have seen his face this morning when they found I was having contractions every 10 mins, and decided to move the cs to this weds!!!
He went a bit pale in the face and didnt say much, while we were driving home...while I was grinning from ear to ear, less than 48 hours til I meet my babies!

Like Rednellie I too feel guilty as I pushed and used emotionla blackmail for a third baby and then it was two more, and on top of that I ended up in hospital and on bedrest disrupting everybody's life! I actually burst into tears when leaving the hospital after being admitted at 27 weeks as was feeling guilty towards everyone dh, my mum, my mil, as I thought "my decision to have a baby I shouldn't be a weight on other people", and felt especially guilty towards him, but he's been brilliant, doing housework, shopping and the dds!
I have been truly impressed!

So, Lilyni it's normal, we have had almost 9 months to get used to the idea, and like some of you we never dreamed of having 4 children, I was quite happy with 4m he would have stopped at 3, I was in tears for a few weeks for all the things I would have missed, as fitting an extra one in the family would have been far easier than two, but now I'm just so thrilled and it feels really special, and I still can't quite believe there really will be two but hey I'll soon see it with my own eyes, and now I can't wait!!

Good timing too, my heartburn has become horrendous, and comes back EVERY time I eat, yuk yuk.

Waves at skitoo too

oh my goodness, less than 48 hours claire!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is so exciting, I can't wait to hear about how it goes and babies' names, weights etc. Urgh. Heartburn. I'm sure mine is not in your league, but Gaviscon and Rennies are my constant companions . Still, no more of that in 48 hours!

I don't think I'd ever dare go to Ikea with dh- recipe for divorce disaster. Bearing in mind we are currently in arctic style icy conditons following discussion about paid childcare... My dad (as I'm sure i mentioned) is bequeathing us some money from my Grandpa's Will specifically to pay for some help- hence a cleaner and some form of childcare for DD/twins/help for me (which he has said he'd prefer not to be nursery for DD yet while she's so little...) yet dh is now debating whether I need any help at all- doesn't see at all why I might struggle to take all three to the playground/ toddler group etc and says most people can't pay so just get on with it. Which I understand and knwo happens everywhere but if we have the option of an easier life which won't financially bankrupt us, why on earth not?! And most people just adjust their lives so therefore don't do things llike go to the playground with a foolhardy 18/19/20 (insert many more months!) month old and new twins alone. Argh!!!!!!!!!

rednellie, my dh always wanted 2 children, I wanted a big family so we'd agreed 3. Which is what we're getting...but dh wasn't expecting this and the huge finanial outlay of the behmoth car/buggy/ double everything... So I feel a bit guilty too. Oh, and my dh said to me the other day- "Is that a new stretch mark or has an old one expanded?" Seriously!?

Hope you're home and resting bb3, let us know how it went when you can. I really hope both girls are feeling better tonight and tummies better so you can get some sleep.

Hello to everyone else!

oh- and 2 nights of better sleep for my DD and she was a happy, lovely child today- she does blooming need it!!! But we had a lovely day together. Thought I'd share that seeing as normally I only whinge about the trying, bad days

Wow, claire, that's no time at all!!!! How exciting and amazing you're contracting already. It just seems amazing doesn't it, that there'll be two little people coming into the world so soon. Good luck with it all and best wishes for all your family. (Btw, our Ikea episodes end peacefully as long as I'm left to put the flat pack together. DH, while a dab hand at whipping up a victoria sponge cake is total rubbish at making furniture! )

I'm so glad your DD is sleeping better dream, she and you need the rest! I'm not sure what to suggest re your DH. I kind of understand what he's saying, but if you've got some money to spend on childcare/cleaning it might be worth it. I actually put my foot down with DH and said I wanted a cleaner and if he said we couldn't afford it he'd have to do it all. Guess what? He's very good at vaccuming now . Maybe if you're getting help 2 days a week from your folks, you could use the money for a cleaner/mothers help type thing. I've heard mothers help can do things like get your groceries, prepare simple meals etc...or a post partum doula? Anyway, don't get too worried about it yet, I'm sure you'll be fine.

The thing about worrying about your DD is natural too, I get really weepy thinking about poor DD having to share me with two little boys, but all my friends who are having singletons go through the same thing - so its not like its about twins as such. Just that whole thing of letting go of the first born a little bit. To be honest, my DD could do with a bit of competition, she is VERY bossy!

Hope everyone else is well - hello!