Twins Club 3!! All welcome :-)

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Hello to everyone expecting twins!
Join us here for some mutual reassurance

MrsStevo, #1 & 2, EDD 23/08/2011, Lincs, MCDA ID,
Tiggersreturn #2+3 EDD 26/09/11 NW London DCDA - not finding out
silverangel #1+2 Sophie, 3lb3 & Alice3lb1 born at 31+2 on 01/08/11 EMCS
PrincessScrumpy #2 & 3, girls
BB3, #2&3 (#1 DS) DCDA girls born 20.09.11 by EMCS at 37 weeks exactly - Edith-May 5lb 11.5oz and Ayse-Rose 6lb 1oz.

PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling #1+2 EDD, DCDA, Boy and Girl, Born 14 Sept
Twinnerves, DCDA, #2&3, girls Francesca and Isabella, born 18/11/11 EMCS 6lbs 6 oz and 6lbs 9.5oz
xkatyx , ID girls, DC 8,5,9months, EDD 21/12/11
Quempin #1&2 EDD 27/1/12, ID surprise
Ravenlocks DCDA, #1&2, EDD 28/01/12
Tabbycatt, DCDA, 2 boys, DC 2 & 3, EDD 30/1/12
Claireinmodena DCDA, Boy & Girl, DC 3 & 4 (!!), EDD 23/02/12
Dreamfeeder, DCDA, DC 2 & 3, EDD 12/4/12
BigBoobsAtLast, MCDA, DC 2&3 EDD
CarrieInAnotherTWOBabiTWINS DCDA DC 2&3, EDD 28/06/12
Caesnake, DCDA, DC 2&3, EDD

How are you doing Carrie? Had you already told your dd? Just to say I'm thinking of you and hoping you have lots of RL support for your loss and twin one keeps doing well. Xxx

I'd not felt any movement on one side at all for 2-3 days and finally couldn't take the worrying and had a quick scan. One little monkey hiding, both fine. I feel so relieved and so lucky. I hope you're not offended with me writing that Carrie

And I hope everyone else is doing well. X

Hey ladies

Just checking in to see how you're all doing - dream very glad little one is just playing hide and seek! I was forever worried about t1 (edie), as t2 was like a salsa dancer compared to her and it's strange how their personalities in the womb are so similar in real life - Ayse demands attention screaming and thrashing around whereas Edith-May is quietly plodding along not causing a fuss! Even in their breathing!!! I often scare myself with Edie as she has little shallow breaths compared to Ayse-Rose's deep sighs and snores!

carrie still thinking of you and hope you're doing as well as you can
at such a difficult time xx

Hi my mums just took dd for the day. I'm still being sick and its not fair on dd. We haven't told her yet. But even this am I'm throwing up while dd is next to me. She knows somethings going on, you try to protect them but I worry its more hurtful to them that you don't tell them what's going on.

Anyway we are telling dd that I'm having a baby before Xmas. Because over Xmas lots of people will be talking about it.
We won't be telling her that it was twins but now its only one baby.

I have N appointment at the hospital with the consultant tomorrow supposed to be seeing her about my repair op. But hopefully she can talk to me about what happens now.

I did manage half a nights sleep last night though. Which must help x

Oh carrie, just read, so sorry. As with dream, I hope you're not offended, but I was so worried too about Bump B as it had been days whereas her sister seems to be a black belt, and all set to check myself in, but just felt a few little flurries now so fingers crossed.

I hope you're OK, I really do. It must be so hard still having to cope with DD and then all the hideous pregnancy effects, when part of you must just want to curl up into a ball. I feel for you.

On a much more trivial note, EFFIN RIB 'FLARE'. 'Flare' makes it sound almost bearable. Mine are in my mouth, it's putting huge pressure on two of them which broke a few years ago and never healed properly, terrified they're going to 'ping'. Back's agony too. AND the top of the bump, which they are really helping with their kicking. Not!

Any advice on how to cope with the rib pain? Am finding it night on impossible to work...

That said, single best thing that's happened so far - the bump is now so monstrous that I genuinely cannot fit behind the sink. I can't get my arms into the sink properly! SUCH a shame I won't be able to do the Christmas washing :D

No it doesn't offend me. I understand.
I feel even more protective of twin one now so I get what you mean

Hello guys, I'm afraid I also have some bittersweet news. I went for a private scan today and found one lively, kicking baby... but just one. The other embryo had died at 6 weeks.

I am sad but I cannot be devasted with one healthy baby left which is so much more than some people get.

Ceasnake, oh no. I am so sorry.
[Sad]

Glad to hear the other baby is ok . How many weeks is that one?

oh no ceasnake, such sad news. Thank goodness for your little kicker! No news of a loss will ever be good, but it's lovely you can be so positive about your surviving twin. I hope all continues to go well for that baby.

I'm feeling super protective of both my babies, and super paranoid- I hope I become a bit more reasonable. I think part of it is exhaustion- my DD may have finally given up and gone to sleep (but it's 10:45, bedtime is 7-7:30!), but I was up with her a fair bit last night, then I can't get back to sleep with reflux, worries about coping etc The only reason DD has gone to sleep now anyway is DH finally got home from work at 10:30pm and took over- her major clingyness has become so bad I can't put her to bed, she will not settle for me. This makes me totally panic about how I'll cope with three LO's, but again, I hope that's the tiredness, and because it all feels a bit overwhelming when you're in the middle of it. All her hand foot and mouth blisters have finally crusted over though, so I can at least go and see friends now. And we did used to have a baby who went down with no problem, so surely I should be able to get back to that in the next 3 months?!

Oh carrie, I'm sure your DD is just worried about mummy in case she's ill. Hopefully her delight at having a sibling to look forward to will help you enjoy Christmas. Some distraction at least... Let us know what the consultant says. I hope it will all be very positive for twin 1.

stinking, I suffered with rib flare/ rib pain a lot last time- nothing I tried helped so I'm no use. I could cope in the day, with frequent position changes and stretching each side a bit (in a wierd way, with an arm curled up over my head and leaning that way to give a bit of space for a minute...), but it was so, so awful at nights... So no help really but lots of empathy!

Dream I feel very paranoid about twin one now too. And v protective.

It's my consultant appointment tomorrow. Feel v nervous and can't relax she's ment to be nice.

Dream I feel very paranoid about twin one now too. And v protective.

It's my consultant appointment tomorrow. Feel v nervous and can't relax she's ment to be nice.

From what I scared myself with on vanishing twin stats, and losses in twin pg carrie a loss in the first trimester has the best outcome for the other twin by far (not that I think any loss is good, of course). I really hope this is the case for twin one for you. You've had a rough enough ride with your 4th degree tear recovery and journey to getting pg again, plus the sickness so far and deserve some good news. X

Dream. They said on sat that it I will either have a mc or it will.reabsorb. or staythere.

I think I'd find it easiest if it did vanish. But do you think that's more.pokey to happen. If it just doesn't develop past six weeks? Rather than make it to 8 weeks when I beleive it becomes a fetus rather than an embro. Basically have I got less chance of it dissapearing?

Hi there, I'm brand new to mumsnet and am expecting twin boys in March. Could I join in with you guys? EDD is 28/03/12, I have no idea what the other acronyms mean, but will provide details when I do!

I've got a DD, almost 2 and we're all really excited/nervous about the whole thing. Be lovely to have some company and somewhere to sound off.

Hello and welcome rednellie , you will find lits of support here from other twin mummies to be!

Ceasnake so sorry to hear about your loss too. I hope the rest of the pregnancy goes smoothly for you.

I think I will worry right up to the end of this pregnancy, I am so much more aware of all things that can wrong at any point...sometims I fell it would be better if they came out now at least they'd be in safe hands, iykwim! But I know they are still better off inside! I am now 30+5 and ticking on.
My new twin travel system arrived yesterday, which cheered me up lots! I also wrapped sll my daughters gifts, given instructions to friend to get dhs pressie, planning xmas meal with my mum, cant believe its only 5 daysaway. My first goal was for babies to wait until after xmas, so thats dine! Now roll on to Jan!

Dresm, sorry to hear about your dd not sleeping again, must be hard! Are you still working too?

carrie still thinking of you, hope you're ok!

Hi Claire, yes, I'm working but only 2 days a week. To be fair, dd's hand foot and mouth blisters have only just all crusted over yesterday. It's just been so long of her being ill, and bedtime/nighttime struggles (3 months!!) I'm worried she's not just going to slot back into her old routine... Especially as she's now majorly clingy with me... Just finding that on top of the twin pg so tiring, makes me worry about when the twins arrive! She'll clearly have no more sense at 18-19 months... What twin travel system did you get? Christmas sounds like its sorted in your house, well done! I will join you in worrying til the end.

Good luck for your consultant appointment today Carrie

Welcome rednellie. We must be similar-ish. My EDD is 19/4/12, but as i refuse to think about going past 38 weeks I'm counting it as 5/4!!! This is a lovely thread for other twin mums to be, loads of info and support I think. I will also have a toddler when my twins arrive, as i said about 18-19 months- she'll be nearly 19 months if i go to 38 weeks. I'm also having boys. Are yours ID?

Right, better get back to dd.

Thanks for all your kind words. The live baby is at 11 weeks 2 days and is looking very healthy, good strong heartbeat, kicking about. As the sonographer said, ?I?m very happy with that?.

The tiny embryo is still there but hasn?t grown beyond 6 weeks and there was clearly no heartbeat. Apparently as the other baby grows, the remains will get pushed back and reabsorbed into the wall of the uterus. Clearly there was something not right with it from the start as it was always so much smaller than the healthy one.

I think the stats for vanishing twins are quite high ? 1 in 5, or something like that. Still upsetting though, but tempered with the happy fact that there?s still a healthy baby left.

Oh, what good news about the bigger twin ceasnake! Yes, I frightened the life out of myself looking up Vanishing Twin, it was really, really high stats for losing one, and I only found out I was pg with twins at 12 weeks, so really I was probably already past that stage. Of course it'll still be upsetting- you were expecting, or at least hoping, to see 2 babies... and once it's mentioned, you can't help thinking about twins, and double buggies, and noticing any twins out and about etc etc (well, I couldn't). So it's a nasty shock to go back to thinking of one, wonderful as it is that there is a wriggling, healthy baby growing. Great that you'll be able to tell people over Christmas about the baby! That is always a lovely, positive part of the pg! i'm thinking of you and carrie with your losses over Christmas though. xx

hi guys, well my hospital appointment went well.
the consultant was very good and really nice and helped calm me right down

i said to her that i thought twin 2 died because of hyper emesis, she said that was definatly not the case, that they dont know why babies dont always make it, and loss in the first trimester is usually down to chromasonal abnormailities, and there was nothing anyone could do.
but she said it she is certain it didnt die because of the hyper emesis.

she went through everything thats happened, and she said ive been very unlucky to have had a 4th degree tear with dd, repair op, hyperemesis twice and to have now lost my twin, she said that its really unlucky have have all that happen to me, which did make me feel a bit better somehow, perhaps that she understood how hard whats happened is.

we had another scan, and not sure if the machines they have in that department are better, but it was far far clearer than on sat. we could see twin one has a good healthy strong heartbeat and was moving about alot.
she said this twin has as much chance of making it as a normal singleton baby.

twin 2 is still there and tbh it is freaking me out a tad, and i can't really understand how it won't cause me an infection or something.but she was confident it won't cause any problems. she thinks the most likely thing is it will be reabsorbed, or when twin one gets bigger you just wont see it anymore[guess she was meaning its still there just you can't see it so much]

she also said if i do start bleeding i need to go into hospital so they can monitor twin one, thats what they told me on saturday too.

she has advised me to have a c section, so the surgeon that did my repair op said c section next time, the gyno i saw 3 months after the op said c section, the midwife said she reccomends a c section, and this consoultant im under reccomends c section.
so they are all saying the same thing.
and i have agreed to having it done.
bit frightened about it but think its better than risking long term damage.

im suprised how much better i feel today after seeing her, massive improvement from yesterday.

ceasnake im 12 weeks plus 2 days, so we are very close indeed.

Wonderful news about twin 1 carrie, good you had another look at him/her, and that this baby has an excellent chance now. I definitely, definitely would not have a VB if my tear had been 4th degree not third, and think I'll have a CS anyway tbh. You're clearly going with medical advice, and look at all the people on here saying recovery from CS was actually better than from a massive tear. So glad you're feeling more positive. I am going to cross everything for you there's no bleeding or anything, twin 2 is reabsorbed, and you stop being sick very, very soon. xx

i'm so sorry to hear your news carrie
hope you are coping ok, its good you have a supportive dr and i'm glad twin 1 is doing so well. i was a bit nervous about the CS too, but it was nowhere near as bad as i thought it would be. actually it was over pretty quickly with no problems and the staff were brilliant. i agree with dream, and think recovery from CS will be better than from a tear. being protective is something i can relate to - am completely over-protective of our boy and find it hard leaving him even for an hour with his dad/grandma, but we're enjoying spoiling him rotten.
if you ever want to PM me anytime please feel free, and know that you are in our thoughts. keepin everything crossed for you x

Hello everyone,

I'm so so sorry to hear about the ladies who has lost a twin :( any mother knows it's one of the worse things that can happen, but I so pleased that the surviving twins are doing so so well.
I will be thinking of you all and wish you very happy and healthy pregnancies.

Hope everyone is ok and already for Xmas with there twins or preparing for them. Such a lovely time.

I had my pre-op today as the BIG day is tomorrow, the day I never thought would come, it's been one hell of a long journey with all the trips to the hospital.

I'm very nervous and doubt I will be sleeping tonight! I have the mega shakes already :(

thanks for your support dream.

i didn't sleep well last night as i was fretting about today, but i think i'll have a decents nights sleep tonight after today hopefully.

as they are always talking about twin one this and twin two that, it still feels liek im a having twins in aweird way as its twin this twin that.
probablt because twin 2 is still there i guess.

she also said theres a good chance might start settling down soon, really hope so, i'll be stronger then.

a so called friend, you know a group friend type[ sort of person you wouldnt see on your own but is part of a group]
lectured me on why i dont need a c section, this was five weeks ago.
i thought wtf do you know! youve never had a 4th degree tear your not a medical professional, you won't be the one drippling shit for the rest of your life if it goes wrong again.

opps ispwich and katy, i crossed posted with your there and missed your posts

ipswich how long did the c section take ?

katy best of luck for tomorrow, will be thinking about you, will you update us when/if yo get chance, how exciting!