Feb babies 2011 - We may not be glowing but we're definitely growing!

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The old thread was getting quite full so I took the liberty of starting a new one, I hope nobody minds! I thought I'd keep in with our glowing and growing theme (I'm not very creative, sorry).

Morning Ladies.

ledkr - just wanted to add my support re your work situation. Your boss sounds like a real twat and I bet you 2 chickens (legal tender in our house) that your pg colleague has been stirring. You always sound so strong and sensible on here, I hope you are feeling brighter today and can stick to your resolve of working to rule. Sending you big sisterly hugs.

If you have a multi-region DVD player you can get Babies as a Region 1 import.

angels - I saw that film years ago and loved it. I promptly recommended it to all my teacher friends.

ledkr - I'm feeling angry for you that your boss is treating you like that. I hope your union or HR steps up for you.

There's a nearly new sale on Sunday that I'm considering attending. I don't cope well with crowds on good days but I'm desperate for maternity clothes. Is it worth going?

ledkr: Hope you are feeling better today? How utterly shite for you. Like so many others, sending happy, positive thoughts your way..

It's very nearly the weekend, so I hope you are able to take some time to take stock of everything. Are you making notes of everything that happens? Sorry to ask, as I'm sure you are :)

xxxx

Oh I love Etre et avoir, am currently having a very difficult morning with my almost 3 year old, refusal to do anything, v demanding and cheeky. I know this sounds like a normal three year old but she is really pushing every button . I heard of the threenager but she is really taking the biscuit!!! I just can't think of where she has got her willfulness from

Morning all. Cannot believe all the messages of support still coming in i keep welling up but am terribly emotional at the moment.
New day new start. Have been working out the dates for my a/l and mat leave as i have to give notice on Monday. Am almost looking forward to going in. Plan on looking a million dollars (as much as poss)and working almost silently. Cannot be arsed to make waves but am ready for him should he see fit to start again.

Anyway the bastard made me miss toilet paper Tuesday which is vitally important. I am still 8 tho. Am going to see my friends baby tonight.I am so excited. Cant take dd as they only allow siblings in. This caused me some amusement when i thought about all my babies 6ft siblings who will be coming in :o

wiggles girls are a trial are they not. My 8 yr old is far too big for her uggs.Has to be pulled down a peg occasionally.Worse is when they are older and they pull every item of clothing out to choose one outfit grrrr.

Ledkr my 5 year old comes home from school, takes clothes out of her wardrobe then throws a really decent outfit together, I don't know whether to be annoyed with the mess (which she does tidy up later), or slightly jealous because she really does have a knack .

Glad you are still in kick ass mode!! dd2 is now still on my knee, demanding cuddles and big hugs - oh the teenage years are going to be so much fun!!!

hello all,

Back from hosptial and popped into tk maxx too and got a couple of sweet baby towels, a nice grobag, and 4 pretty vests all for under £25 in their clearance

Hosptial visit quite unproductive. After getting stuck for over half an hour in the q for the car park and nearly wetting myself several times I just about got there on time, but, having raved about the NHS upuntil now this is by far my most dissapointing appointment and I spent the whole drive home in floods of tears (probably just me being over-emotional though).

Bit of a rant coming up - warning - !

My appointment was with the obsteotrician (can't spell) dept and the person I got said he was new to the hospital and was just next to useless - he tried to find the babies hb with doppler and said, at 21 weeks, it would be hard to find and he might not manage it (???!!!). He then proceeded to get very embarassed at having to put jelly on my tummy and use the doppler and said he wasn't sure why they didn't insist on having another member of staff in to witness when he did this (I politely said it was only a tummy he was looking at ). He then took ages to find a hb and literally seemed to have no clue as to which part of the tummy to try and even asked me where mw found it last time (I could have done it better myself) and didn't count bpm or anything, just heard it and said that was fine.

I had to ask him about the GTT test and if I could see a diabetic nurse instead of fasting test and he had no idea so had to get mw in to get an answer and refer me. Oh, and maybe someone here can help - I asked what the chances are of my having GD anyway (just with BMI risk factor) and he said he wasn't sure but 'in my experience it is less than 50%' - which I was really taken aback by - I thought statistically it was about 5%ish (???) - so the fact that all he could say was less than 50% made me lose any faith I had in him (although I'm happy to be proved wrong on this).

I was so at how clueless and useless he was being I nearly burst into tears there and then in the appointment. It was only when I was half way home I realised one of the main reasons for the appointment was to seeif I can have an epidural (apparently my back problem last year might prevent me). My mw told me they had been prepped to discuss this with me and in my upset I forgot to ask.

Then, to add insult to injury, I get home and look at my notes to find he wrote 'feels fine' in the comments - grrr - if only - I told him I was struggling with various things (didn't want to start moaning about all the problems I've had with pg) and he said 'oh, home issues' and I replied no and about how I'd had various pregnancy complaints and was having quite a hard pregnancy so far when he just smiled and said 'it'll be fine soon' (grrr - he knows nothing about anything). How can that = 'feels fine'. If only I had felt stronger I would have told him just about how I've barely managed to work since getting pg and haven't been out of the house for longer than 3 hours in 4 months.

Just feel really let down and upset by the whole thing. I know I'm probably just being hormonal and making something out of nothing. Sorry for the rant. Feel free to ignore me as I cry in the corner of the thread! Don't know what I'd do without this place!

angels was he a consultant or registrar? He sounds like junior Dr. but i can imagine how that has made you feel.
They do tend to play everything down on your notes.I remember having what i thought was a mc with massive blleding when was pg with dd at 12 wks. MW wrote "small bleed"in my notes.
I am also classed as "low risk" on my current pg. Having had two prem births one miscarriage 3 c sections and being 43.Dont take it to heart and ring you mw to ask questions. Was it the shock of not finding the heart beat that worried you and made you feel "funny"do you think?
You are "fine" in the eyes of people who have to regularly see worse iyswim?

angels, IIRC it affects 3-10% of all pregnant women, depending on the population being studies (more common in some racial/ethnic groups than others) (including those with no risk factors). Being overweight increases your risk factor by 2.1, being obese increases it by 3.6 and being severely obese increases it by 8.6 (source: Chu SY, Callaghan WM, Kim SY, Schmid CH, Lau J, England LJ, Dietz PM. Maternal obesity and risk of gestational diabetes mellitus. Diabetes Care 2007; 30(8): 2070-6. PMID 17416786, although I don't know what they use as their cut-off for "severely obese"). So if your base risk was 5% your risk given that you are obese but have no other risk factors would be around 18%.

(I'm assuming for the sake of argument there that your BMI falls into the "obese" category, given that they tend not to refer for GTT for BMI in "overweight" category)

wiggles my dd is the same. I am VERY fashion concious and my mates all laugh at how my dd can put together an outfit similar to what i would wear. She is tall and skinny(cow)unlike me tho so look really nice.She loves to draw too and i have aspirations of her becoming the next vivien west wood.
Not feeling very fash at the mo tho.I have developed the legs of a wrestler so try to avoid leggings unless i have long skirt or dress.They feel all fluidy and tight.
I have just booked tickets for me and dd to attend the baby show on Friday. Am so disappointed that dh cant come as working but i thought it would be alovely girly day for us two.

Angels have a manly hug and punch on the shoulder. I remember telling my consultant at 12 week scan, that I was very very sick and quite worried as I had two previous pregnancies and never felt or been this ill and she told me "well the sickness is supposed to get better after 12 weeks isn't it?" Well she was wasn't wrong only took another 9 weeks

Did you go to appointment on your own, if so would it be easier to take Mr Angels, your mum, friend next time so they can try and get questions answered.

prof brilliant cross referencing there. I give you an A for that. Are you a secret midwife. Can you imagine how it would "take off" with us lot if you were :o

I think it was his general lack of knowledge on anything and general attitude of not knowing/caring what he was doing and why I was there. Not finding a heartbeat straight away wasn't worrying - the fact that he didn't seem to know how to operate the macing was IYKWIM. If he would have been a knowledgable doctor with bad bedside manner that would be one thing, but I got the impression this person had just been plonked into the ob dept and knew nothing about it (he told me he was new to the hospital and had a vey foreign accent).

No, I just have various bookmarks on GD hanging around from last pregnancy . I did have to look up the numbers, I hasten to add -- am not sad enough to have them committed to memory.

IME when you see an obstetric consultant it is normally not a consultant and they are normally crap. This is the main reason I am pissed off with being "high risk" this time and not getting to see a mw. The one I saw last pregnancy couldn't even read the growth scan report properly (which did fit in with my personal agenda, so I suppose I can't complain, but it's a bit depressing when you seem to know more than they do).

yes thanks prof. I think my BMI is classed as 'obese' but they have the issue that they only have my 15 week weight as my first weigh in (the obese weight), so they are assuming what I was at 15 weeks was the same as what it was pre-preg, which I know is not the case by far. It's likely I was normal/overweight pre-preg, only they won't accept this as they don't know this as fact as they didn't weigh me then. So it feels like the whole thing is a fuss about potentially nothing anyway.

wiggles i wish I had taken mr angels with me now but assumed I'd see someone who knew what they were doing and didn't expect to get so upset. Tbh I was in a fluster about waiting for a car parking space for so long and nearly wetting myself in the car, so was feeling quite delicate to begin with . Next time I will take someone with me so at least I don't have to worry about getting non-existant car parking spot.

When i had breast cancer yrs ago i once saw a Senior reg who had agroup of students with him. There was about 7 of them and he asked whether it would be ok if they all had a feel of my newly re constructed breasts. They were actually lined up.I did draw the line at that. Some Drs are just very matter of fact.
prof i am like that. Maybe we should have been Drs.haha My son had renal failure-i am now an expert,and what i dont know about breast c is not worth knowing. I even dictated my treatment to the consultant :o

Not that brill with pg tho unlike your good self.
angels when do you go back then?Good idea to maybe take a friend or Mr Angelo

Hopefully I don't go back to see him. I next see my mw in about 3 weeks. Will tell her then. I will need to go back to see someone about the epidural issue that didn't get adressed today, hopefully I'll see someone else in the dept or an anaethatist (can't spell again. Eeek - just hope he's not a dr on duty when I'm givin birth - I wouldn't trust him to make my lunch let alone with the health of my baby!

oh I'm sorry angels, I think I would have reacted the same way (also very hormonal at the moment). Do you think it was because of his comments about you being fine? I think I would find that insulting unless he'd explained why he'd written that. It's also anxiety making when you're not used to being pregnant and so you put an element of trust in those who are supposedly qualified to look after you medically. The fact he was embarrassed about listening to baby's hb is shocking and please don't take it to heart, he's either chosen the wrong area to specialise in or he found you attractive and got nervous!
I think I would make an appt with my mw to voice my concerns as she knows you and how you've had difficulties throughout so I expect she would be willing to contact the obstetrician for you and ask about the epidural. Honestly, some doctors have no idea, not just about pregnancy but being a human being with the ability to listen! Sending you a big hug

prof if you are a midwife or medical person then for your own sake I would keep quiet as I have just mentally made a list of about 100 questions for you!!! . Seriously, good advice!

ledkr glad to hear you sounding better and stronger again. hope you have a fab time at the baby show.

It made me laugh to hear the stories about your dds and clothes, I was awful but now I know I'm having a boy I feel (relatively) safe in the knowledge that my clothes will remain in my wardrobe and I won't have to compare myself to him as he gets older.... hee hee!!! My poor mum, we're so close now but I used to steal everything of hers,

and I can picture the jr docs lining up to give ledkrs boobs an eye lol

I seemed to have missed out as I never really borrowed clothes from my mum . The only thing I can recall borrowing was when I was about 14 and at school we had to dress up for book day as a book character and I borrowed one of her old 70's Laura Ashley dresses which looked just like it came straight from 'little house on the praire'

need to sleep yeah boys just wear the same old thing for days untill it gets up and walks down to the washing machine itself!!
Then they discover girls and are in the shower 20 times a day stinking of lynx and only wearing an item once before expecting it washed.At this point a mother will become good at going thru the basket and smoothing out the clean items before putting them back in the sons drawers.

ha ha ha! I have a brother and remember the lynx stage, oh god help me!!! I HATE that stuff. Is it okay to hose boys down before they come back in from the garden? Might set up a decontamination zone by the door.

angels I used to steal wear my mum's tops and make up ALL the time. Even when they really didn't fit me I love the idea of your mum as a character from little house on the prairie but doubt she really is like that . I love Laura Ashley now, is that safe to admit out loud?

needtosleep apparently the little house on the praire dress fashion was trendy at some point in the 70's (according to my mum anyway). I like Laura Ashley too - especially their home stuff - have their wall paper/curtains at home . Monsoon was one of my pre preg faves though.

Yes the lynx phase - the students at school go through that. Sometimes they use the classroom next to my teaching room as a changing room and my goodness it pongs of sprays afterwards. Mind you, I can remember when I was at school there was the 'impulse' body spray phase where everyone sprayed that all the time.