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Hermya321 · 05/09/2010 12:36

Right then , what's everyone having? I have all sorts behind here both alcoholic and non alcoholic and an array of snacks as well. Grin Wink

Here is a link to the Future Grads Thread

Stats:

ARRIVALS:

Fulhamgirl - EDD 30th May - DOB 9th Apr - Girl - Lily Ann - 4lb
Trying4Baby1 - EDD 25th Apr - DOB 6th May - Girl - Emily - 10lb 2.5oz
Pepperonipizza -EDD 24th May - DOB 28th May -Boy
CurlyCasper - EDD 21st July - DOB 24th June - Girl
Spirael - EDD 25th Jul - DOB 7th July - Girl - Miranda Jane - 8lb 3oz
DesperateHousewife21 - EDD 18th July - DOB 9th July - Boy - Dylan James
Sazziej - EDD 1st Sep- DOB 24th Aug - Girl - Evie - 7lb 8oz
Ozziegirly - EDD 24th Aug -DOB 25th Aug - Boy-Thomas - 7lb 1oz

CURRENT GRADUATES:

NovemberAli - BFP 24th Dec - EDD 2nd Sep - Surprise
WhiteRoses - BFP 11th Jan - EDD 15th Sep - Boy
Hobnob - BFP 17th Jan - EDD 26th Sep - Girl
Pixiestix - BFP 18th Jan - EDD 24th Sep - Surprise
Addie81 - BFP 28th Jan - EDD 7th Oct - Girl
Chancewouldbeafinething - BFP 1st Feb - EDD 10/10/10 - Boy
WorrisomeHeart - BFP 29th Jan - EDD 12th Oct - Boy - Lochlann
Hermya321 - BFP 12th Feb - EDD 24th Oct - Boy
Fudgecat - BFP 19th Feb ? EDD 28th Oct
Pidgin - BFP 27th Feb - EDD?
YorkshireTeaDrinker - BFP 1st Mar - EDD 6th Nov
Bunnygirl80 - BFP 12th Mar - EDD 19th Nov-Boy
Mumnerves - BFP 1st Apr - EDD 8th Dec
Luckyseven - BFP 8th Apr - EDD 17th Dec
Capricorn76 - BFP 12th Apr - EDD 1st Jan 2011
Homebound - BFP 30th Apr - EDD 8th Jan
Seablue - BFP? - EDD 10th Jan
Oneof8 - BFP 18th May - EDD 17th Jan
Aly323 - BFP? - EDD 31st Jan - Boy
Muser - BFP 22nd June - EDD 27 Feb
Superpenguin - BFP 1st July - EDD 4th March
Haloflo - BFP 22 July - EDD 20 March
SaorAlba - BFP 7 Aug - EDD 4th April
MrsWajs - BFP 13 Aug? - EDD 10th April

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
WhiteRoses · 06/11/2010 21:41

Hi all...

Chance - huge congratulations and well done - big boy! :) x

Dying to hear from Yorkshire now! Grin x

Hermya321 · 07/11/2010 17:08

Bunny I had that for a few days before things finally kicked off for me. You could be in what my midwife said was 'slow' labour. It felt nicer to think of it that way and I felt a bit less impaitent.

Halo Brilliant news about your scan, hopefully you'll find out a bit more next week.

Aly Oooo your nursery sounds lovely. I've seen videos on youtube of peoples American baby showers, they look like a lot of fun (any excuse for a party). What kind of stuff will you be doing? Also you don't have to answer, but will you be getting a nursing cover. I'd heard they were popular over in the US.

MrsW Sometimes men can be quite quite dense can't they, hope he's apologetic.

Lucky LOL!!!

Chance Congratulations!!! What a big boy!! I hope you're well.

Well me and DS are doing ok, we've spent the past few days in an irritable fog. I've been very teary and frustrated as he's been cluster feeding with abandon the last few nights. It hasn't helped that I've managed to have a couple of blocked ducts and a milk blister which have developed into mastitus either. Seriously if you get it, you will know about it.

Another bizare tip from the land of the sleep deprived, get them to teach you how to feed lying down. It will save your sanity, I have only just learnt how to do this last night and it made such a difference to how chilled I was when DS started using me as a milking machine.

Also if you can invest in a cheap thermos so you have warm water for nappy changes in the middle of the night. We used wipes for a few nights and DS ended up with a nasty case of nappy rash, so it was back to cotton wool quick time.

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haloflo · 07/11/2010 19:14

Evening all!

Good to hear from you hermya mastitis sounds horrid, I really hope it clears up for you soon. I want to learn to feed lying down. Please tell me I won?t accidently fall asleep though? I?m guessing it won?t be that relaxing but I have a fear that I?ll be so sleep deprived I could fall asleep and the baby would fall off the sofa/bed. I hope thats not a really stupid thing to think. Thermos sounds like a brilliant idea. I need to start writing these things down!

mumsnerves I can?t believe you only have a month to go! You on ML now? I have to decide when to finish work in the next couple of weeks. It just seems so far away still but I guess time will fly! Hope your cold is a bit better today and you have had your feet up.

bunny Hope you managed to enjoy your meal today.

Finally a proper update about my scan. All was well except they couldn?t check the spine. The lady said though that usually spinal problems are indicated by markers in the brain and as there was nothing to worry about there she thinks the spine should be ok. However they are giving it another go Tuesday and I will feel better when all the list has been ticked. I wonder if we will find out the sex then?! I?ve set my expectations that we won?t find out so if we don?t I won?t be disappointed!

I found out I have an anterior placenta too. Although I think I felt something at week 16 it wasn?t distinctive and was very soft. I then feel nothing for a while and only last week at week 20 did I feel sure I was feeling something. I can?t feel anything from the outside and DP hasn?t felt anything yet either.

The talk on my AN thread has turned to shopping now and I suddenly feel very overwhelmed. There is so much to consider with a buggy/travel system/pram and they are so expensive. I don?t think we can afford to get this wrong.

Have any graduates from this thread used slings? I live in a second floor flat without a lift so feel it would be important to be able to get out on my own when DP?s not around to help.

I feel a few shopping trips followed by hours of research online are needed. From reviews I have read prams seem such a personal choice people either love or hate the one they have. It?s all very personal.

Am so glad I still have months to think all this over!

luckyseven · 08/11/2010 10:32

Just a quick note to halo as I am not sure when I will be next on. All the best for tomorrow and hope you get some definitive answers on the little one, will be thinking of you.

Just a tip about the anterior placenta, if you get the opportunity ask them to advise you on the amount of movement you should feel and when. Can they give you any indication of what is adequate movement for an anterior placenta and when should you seek advice? I don't want to alarm you but if i had thought to ask it would have saved a mad dash to the day obstetric unit to get our baby scanned when the doc thought i wasn't feeling enough. Up to that point I had been content with the advice - you will feel less movement than others but i never considered what would be too little iykwim!

crazybutterflylady · 08/11/2010 11:31

Morning everyone!
Hope you had a lovely weekend and managed to see some fireworks.
halo good look for tomorrow, fingers crossed you find out what colour LO is :) re the sling, I haven't used it yet obviously, but I have bought this one for DH... a friend of mine has it and said it's brilliant. Bit disappointing colourwise but I'll just have to dress LO up brightly instead :) Have a look at the reviews on mumsnet too, I found them really helpful when I was looking for ours.

I also used a hip sling type one when my niece was younger and really liked that but I do think you have to have hips to use it. My sister is quite athletic-figured and didn't get on with it at all.

hermya sorry about your mastitis :( a few friends have experienced it and it's really not nice, poor love. Have they given you antibiotics?

I'm ok, I had another crap day on Friday and left work early. I have applied to work from home on Fridays for the rest of the year; I think a mixture of the crap lighting, staring at a PC all day and being uncomfortable at my desk contribute to getting to Friday and just conking out... I am keeping everything crossed that they agree!

Also we have had good news in that we can get out of our rental contract early and move in January woohoo, I am really chuffed. Now I have to find a new house to move to Confused wish me luck!

x

WhiteRoses · 08/11/2010 14:45

Hi everyone!

Halo - you're definitely not being stupid. I would never feed DS lying down ever again, after falling asleep during my first time. I'd had DS at 9am on Sunday, after being up and in labour all night. I'd lost a lot of blood during the birth, and was waiting on a transfusion. It was 3am on the Monday and I'd only had an hour's sleep in total since the birth so I was absolutely shattered. I'd been feeding DS constantly all day and night, and a midwife came round to see how I was doing. She showed me how to latch on, went out from behind the curtain to give painkillers to the woman in the next bed, came back in and I'd managed to doze... Feel a very bad mother for admitting that, and I obviously didn't do it on purpose, but I just wasn't in control and for that reason, I never lie down to feed. Even at night, I take DS into the living room and sit bolt upright on the armchair. I just wouldn't take the risk of feeding him in the bed. That time in the hospital scared me far too much!

On a lighter note - hope your scan goes well and you manage to find out the sex. Nice getting that extra little bonus scan! :)

Oh, and I haven't used a sling, sorry. Do live up one flight of stairs though, and sometimes just leave my pram out in the car - makes life easier.

Hope everyone else is well too. :)

crazydayz · 08/11/2010 14:48

Thank you all for your kind and excited words about the twins - it's beginning to sink in finally! They would have an EDD of 13th May if there was just one of them but not sure if our hospital lets you go full term with twins until I've seen the consultant.

halo fab news on scan - can't wait for my 20 week scan and am willing the next 6 weeks away already!

MrsW Hope DP sorts himself out soon.

Can anyone give me any ideas on how to deal with headaches. I don't want to keep popping paracetamol but have to when they get too bad. I'm using the 4head stick and the coolong strips to not much avail but I seem to get a headache everyday and the midwife just said it's down to hormones!

crazybutterflylady · 08/11/2010 16:41

crazydayz I am getting really bad headaches too, there's not much you can do but drink tons of water! I also find (sounds silly!) that relaxing my lower jaw helps. I think because of the sickness and everything else we are going through, I am tending to clench my jaw, just through tension... when I get a headache I sort of loosen the bottom jaw if that makes sense? Anyway it seems to help my headache go. That and sleep!

Good luck, I have bad enough ones but with double the hormones yours must be awful! :(
xx

MrsWajs · 08/11/2010 16:44

Afternoon peeps :)

Hope everyone is having better weather than me just now - bloody freezing and so stormy!! Yuck!

Anyway thought I better do a proper post since I haven't been on since Friday for a rant!!!

DP was suitably apologetic on Saturday when I got home from work. He eventually got home from his little soiree at about 2.30am on the saturday morning, got into bed and promptly vomitted everywhere needless to say I wasn't vary happy, especialy considering I had to get up for work at 6 and hadn't had much sleep prior to that.
Anyway, I managed to get home from work before he picked up DSS on the Saturday, so we had a blazing row little chat, and I explained he can't carry on his life as though nothing has changed and that if things were going to continue like this, then I'd be offski! Maybe a bit heavy handed but I think he really needed a shake up! Seems to have done the trick - all my housework and washing was done yesterday when I got home from work!

And on a more positive note he has also found a new job on much better pay, so not worrying about finances half as much as I was!

Sorry can't stop and do indivdual comments as laptop playin up a bit but will be back soon.x

MrsWajs · 08/11/2010 16:46

wooops meant blazing row

cherrycobbler · 08/11/2010 17:43

mrsw great news about DP's job solution! Must be huge relief.

hermya you poor thing about mastitis. SIL had it and really suffered, hope you recover v soon. Milk blister sounds OUCH - the things you never knew existed...

crazyb - working from home on Fris sounds a v good plan. Sorry to hear you're still suffering. I had brief respite of about two days of less nausea then spent whole weekend throwing up and today too - feel absolutely horrendous and at 13+2 too! Maybe we'll get our second trimester bloom next week?! Here's hoping. Fab news re rental contract. Are you still thinking of Cambridgeshire? Do you have to be near London for DH's job?

halo so glad everything went well and hopefully you will get a co-operative LO tomorrow to show off their perfect spine and possibly their flavour too tomorrow!

Bought some maternity clothes on the weekend as am too fat for my normal trousers at the moment. H&M jeans were quite good but suuuuper tight - think I may have to go up a size from my normal one Blush. Bought two causal dresses too, I look like a shapeless house in them but at least they are v comfy. Struggling majorly with work clothes so that will need to be next purchase!

Off to source some haribo to feed my addiction stop me vomming at my desk, hope you all had good Mondays x

OneOf8 · 08/11/2010 18:09

Hi all,

I'll do my "hi's" then let you all know what a horrible person I am...

Halo Good luck with the scan tomorrow - its nice having the "bonus" one, however I hope they can see the spine clearly, and hope you are able to find out the sex (if you still want to as I sway from knowing one minute to the next!)

Highheels hope you are well, and still dodging the nausea!

Aly Nursery sound lovely! we still have to pick colours but I going to let OH have the final say (in the shade...) as we picked a yellow theme bedding with jungle theme, so I want the walls as neutral as possible.

Bunny Hope you are either feeling better or things are getting themselves organised for the "main event"! Whichever you would prefer!... although only a couple of weeks to go!

MrsW Sorry DP was a bit of a thoughtless prat. I am anti-male-partners right now, so sorry if this is a bit harsh... hope he has suitably grovelled and you were able to sort tings out (after breaking something as a reminder not to do it again...). Is it possible he was stressed about the work situation and this lead to the gap where his consideration of you should have been? (hope not sticking nose in emoti-con)

CrazyD only thing that worked for me was paracetamol and sleep. Given I was living on ibuprofen for stress headaches prior to pregnancy, I think I have done well if I only take one paracetamol per dose. I try drinking (water, then a fizzy drink for sugars if no easing of the headache) followed by something to eat. If it is still there then I go to bed if at home (or only a short while before I get home) or I surrender and take a paracetamol. Apparently we preggers folk along with new mummies (especially those breastfeeding) are more at risk from dehydration.

Ok - I accept now (before I even begin) that I am being a little unreasonable/neurotic/selfish/words to this effect - but in my defence I come from a blunt family...

Our LO will be the first grandchild on both sides. Sure I have mentioned this before... but for this reason we are being even more conscious in our decisions to avoid offending ie. my mum will be at the birth but no-one else is allowed to visit etc until I feel ok - however after this it will be parents then siblings to avoid "they visited first" type scenarios.

Long story short his mum and I are very different. I am a mouthy little Madame outspoken but make allowances for her behaviour so do not say anything directly to her no matter how awful I think she has been (as I am sure she feels she does for me). We told both families things we would like for baby. Some were basics (sleep suits etc) some were items we particularly want and will be buying ourselves - including branded items where I had done research and felt one product is better than another (unless anyone offered to step in and buy that item). It was done this way to avoid asking for anything whilst having a list for us (so we know what else to buy) and so when asked we knew where we were. This also meant if wanted they could chose what they wanted to give the baby or be told exactly which one we wanted (my family prefer the latter so they know it wont be wasted)

After all this careful planning to avoid any issues or causing offence there was one item I had chosen a particular brand (colour and model were not important as in this brand the whole range has the same safety aspects) - this brand clearly stated "suitable from birth" and I had friends with different models of this brand who rated them above others.

His mum gave us the item and said that due to how much they were "spending on her special birthday", think (the brand I specified) "is too expensive so have got you XX brand". Never heard of it, so smiled and said thanks - despite the fact I thought it was rude way to have put it - why not just say "we liked this one better" or something similar...

I read the review when we got home and this one is shit. Not suitable till at least 3 months and looks like a baby has already been sick on it (bad colours).

I told OH what I thought (that they should not have bothered getting the wrong one) - he said they wanted to buy "something that will be used regularly" - I respond "well it wont, so they should have saved their money and we'll get the one we "need"... do you want to return this one or just not say anything?

Then he said "we don?t need it, and this one will do the job fine, just a bit later".

I took offense to this and shouted back that I do need my child to have safe equipment at all times, and if I want the choice between safe equipment to rest the baby in the first few weeks then I was damn well going to have the choice.

I then summarised that his family know nothing and that I would be avoiding them from now on for disrespecting me by asking what I wanted, pretending to listen to me and discuss the original brand (why better etc) and then buying our child this piece of crap which is the complete opposite to the reasons why I wanted the other brand...

I know I went too far but this was just the last straw for me as 1) it is not the first time 2) OH never "sides" with me - whether I am right or wrong... 3) I may be experiencing "precious first born syndrome" but surely when it is because of SAFETY this is not a bad thing. It is coincidental they picked the worst colour...

I have thrown put the offending item in the garage and ordered the one I want.

I know that managed in a different way then we could have just used the item later on (and had a back up for earlier on) or suggested they keep it at their house "for when we visit" etc then just not use it until baby was big enough - but the reason I blow completely was when I said I was ordering the "right one" he said it was fine and we could just put the baby in his parents one "for show"

I told him my child was not a performing monkey and would not be getting in a death trap Blush for show just because his family are a bunch of c**ts who deliberately brought something that was not suitable for use and if it wasn't deliberate then they did not care enough to check.

We have not spoken since Sunday morning (row was Saturday morning). After avoiding each other since the initial barney on Saturday I asked on Sunday how long it would take him to put the baby first... which was me poking the fire as I was still fuming.

Like I said I know I am ungrateful, and we are fortunate that people want to be involved - but it really got to me as I saw it a personal insult the reasons why his mum picked this one. I was more angry that OH cant see why this upset me so much.

Punch line is that the one they borught is only £5 cheaper than the cheapest model of the brand I wanted.

Can someone lie and say they would have debated acting in the same way???

OneOf8 · 08/11/2010 18:18

Sorry - I know that was an over the top rant - which took so long, two other people have posted...

MrsW glad things look better on all fronts!

Cherry I got some really nice work trousers from Next - but had to get them from the catalogue. They are "normal" work wear material - rather than the nylon material most other places were selling - which is not a good look on my body shape at any time, let alone now with the expansion!
If you look online, and make a note of the product, your local store can order in the product (rather than mess about with home delivery) and is a bit cheaper than the £4 they charge for home delivery. Only down side is you have to pay up front rather than have it on account to settle after. For this reason, I didn't order the selection of sizes (which I normally do!) as only had money on me for one pair... Just thought I'd let you know in case it helps!

cherrycobbler · 08/11/2010 18:43

oneof8 just wanted to say - if its any consolation I also massively blow up about issues with DH and his family - not had any about baby but for some reason him not "taking my side" when I've been outraged by something his family have done really hits a nerve with me. So, although I know that in an ideal world I'd react very calmly about the MIL pressie (altho possibly not to the comment about it being cheaper because of her birthday celebrations) I suspect I would also go mad! Thanks for the Next suggestions btw, will check them out :)

bunnygirl80 · 08/11/2010 21:32

hermya hope your mastitis clears up soon

halo I think I did more research on what pram to get than on the new car we bought the other week Grin I spent quite a bit of time volunteering to push prams for my friends who already have babies so I could see how they handled.

MrsW that's great news about your DP's job. Hope he's still on his best behaviour for you Smile

oneof8 I think you're perfectly within your rights to be upset if your MIL says she bought you a cheaper item so she could spend the rest of the money on herself. Especially after you've put time and effort into researching the one you actually want. Hope you and DH make up soon

Can I add my DH to the list of partners in the doghouse at the moment? Last night we were sitting chatting when he just casually says "oh, just to let you know I'm probably working in Brisbane next week"

This would be the Brisbane in Queensland, over 1000km away from our house Shock I told him that there is absolutely no way he's travelling that far away from home less than a week before my EDD, and he still didn't get it. His comment was that it's only an hour on the plane. It just doesn't seem to have registered that as he doesn't have a private jet, it may only be an hour's flight, but he would have to wait for a plane which could end up being delayed.

He still seems to think that just because his friends have said that all first babies are late, he doesn't need to worry about the possibility of me going into labour before the 19th November. AngryAngry

I do wonder how he's managed to survive to the age of 30 with such a minimal amount of common sense. If he carries on this way while I'm heavily pg and hormonal the chances of him seeing 31 are rapidly diminishing Grin

OneOf8 · 09/11/2010 10:25

Although it is nice having the whole bed, really need to sort things out with OH -properly - not just this one thing - otherwise different versions of the issue will come up over the next how many years till he grows a set and/or I learn not to care.

Bunny its seems to be a popular misconception the 1st babies are ALWAYS late. Not sure how to have him see sense - but maybe you will feel better if you have a back up plan in case he is unavailable at the time? Although I would be upset with OH, at least this way I know baby and I will be ok, and it will be his loss if he did miss anything?

We are still not "friends", which will make the 1st of our couples antenatal classes tonight Super Fun!. Told him if he didn't work out why I am so angry by 6pm, I would be taking a male friend to save face rather than spend 3 hours in his company later.

I really am my own worst enemy at times. Sad

crazybutterflylady · 09/11/2010 11:26

Morning all

Owuh oneof8 it's really tough. Like cherry I have similar problems with my ILs who have already told DH that the buggy I want is far too expensive, like it's any of their business.

Could you maybe find out where they bought the other thing and exchange it for the one you want?? It seems silly that they didn't buy something else completely if they couldn't get the one you wanted...there's so much stuff we need for the little blighters that they couldn't be short of options surely??

When we've been in similar situations I have to say that I tend to back down in terms of the row with DH, mainly because I understand that he is totally in the middle and I feel like I am being a bit unfair on him... I have just learnt to pick my fights really otherwise we'd probably always be at one another's throats! Maybe just calmly tell him that you're willing to keep it at the ILs for when you visit but that you don't want to use it everyday as you don't trust it as much as the one you chose?? I'm sure over time he'll see that mum (you not her!!)knows best Wink

bunny :( that's really frustrating. Could you maybe ask a family member to be on standby? I think if you pretend you're not bothered and be all 'well if you do miss it, you'll never get the opportunity back, but it doesn't bother me, I'm always going to have that instant bond' (emotional blackmail I know but meh, times call for it), he might reconsider??

cherry yep I had a day of feeling better then it came back with a vengeance! It's NOT FAIR!! But like you say, hopefully we'll have an easy next 2 trimesters to make up for it and be all glowing and fabulous and maybe even an easy birth(!). Ha!! We are loking at the band across the top of London, so Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire... not making life easy I know!! We are just renting first off so we can get an idea of areas before we buy, so not too much pressure. I have no idea about the hospitals in these areas though Confused it's all very confusing!

Hope you're all having a good Tuesday x

MrsWajs · 09/11/2010 11:27

Ohhh oneof8 I would SO be reacting the same way as you!!! Particularly liked the 'taking someone else to antenatal' comment! But yeah I guess you will need to make up at some point...

DP is back in the doghuse already (he never learns)he came back from a job yesterday and refused to give me a hug just went straight upstairs to wash his hands, I follwed him up and asked what he was doing - his reply was that he had paste allover his hands, he then proceeded to start washing his face too, I asked if he also had paste on his face, he said nothing, then he turned round and I clicked - he had been smoking!!! And was quite prepared to lie to my face about it, I know that he smokes when he's drinking and although I don't like it I accept it, but lying is the one thing I cannot tolerate and he should surely know that about me by now!!!

So he has his orders, he will be at the DRs on Friday afternoon signing up for patches. Again I know I'm being unreasonable but I really can't stand it - I had to stop and so should he, it's not something I want the baby exposed to when it arrives and anyway it is a disgusting habit that we can't afford.

cherrycobbler · 09/11/2010 12:57

Just had a call from the midwife (almost two weeks after the scan and blood tests!). Apparently the DS risk is low but they are worried about the low level of my PAPP-A hormone Sad so will refer me to a consultant to discuss in the next couple of weeks. Midwife was lovely and said not to worry till we've spoken to the consultant but am obviously very very worried and not quite up to doing the vast mountains of work I have to do this afternoon!

Sorry for me me me post but just wanted to update you all

OneOf8 · 09/11/2010 13:31

MrsW I gave up over 2 years ago and still miss it!
It is hard but not impossible. OH is still smoking but not long after I got the BFP he was told that he will not be coming anywhere near my child until he has stopped completely.

He said it was our child, which I corrected him, a parent would be willing to do ANYTHING for their child, and as he chooses fags over the baby he is not as committed to the baby as me Blush.

In his defence he is trying (cut right down as we both smoked like troopers!) and I am now using every emotional blackmail trick I can think of - "ooh, baby is kicking - come and feel... no wait, you cant, you stink and its making me queasy go away and wash" followed up by "its such a shame when you miss these moments" just to try and have him completely stopped before January (I accept this will not happen as Christmas will be "to hard" for someone not 100% committed) but I do believe once the baby is here it should cease completely.

If there was a bitch award, I'll be the current winner (and be adding the trophy to the previous years collection...)

We spoke over email earlier. We agreed that we will not be using the offending item until 3 months (at least) and at this time it can go to their house (to ensure it doesn't get used early) and we will have one suitable from birth - however the victory is that if asked why we have 2 or why we are not using theirs, we will be honest to say it was not safe from birth so we brought the one we wanted. We also agree his mum has a talent for being a cow but it was a gift so should remain gracious regardless so no dragging up how that I feel she was deliberate in her actions etc.

We have also agreed I can tell his family when I disagree with something (rather than asking him to tell her/them) providing I have a reason, and wont get arsey with him if he disagrees with HOW I say it.

We are going to talk properly later but at least we have progress.

This is not bad, as only took 3 days - previously this would have been at least a month long stand off! We don?t have proper arguments often, as normally I act the bitch, he sulks then we don't talk.

Sorry to have hijacked! but thank you - really needed to vent!!

Will report in tomorrow with feedback from the class - I hope they have food as won?t have time to eat prior!

Cherry Just seen your update - hope you are feeling ok, must have been a little shock - did they give you the actual numbers?
I beleive they give you a rush appointment to discuss further?

haloflo · 09/11/2010 17:11

cherry Can you insist on an appointment straight away? Remember even if you are high risk there is still a likelyhood that everything will be ok. I hope you get answers soon. Thinking of you.

highheels I will be thinking of you tomorrow for your early scan. Hope all goes well.

Just popped on to let you know that my 20 week scan went well and the spine has now been checked.

Still having a surprise. I have a modest baby. Because the baby is ok, I actually don't mind one bit even though I was determined to know before.

Back hopefully Thursday for a longer post.

OneOf8 · 09/11/2010 17:57

Halo Glad they were able to complete the scan - you will probably change your mind a thousand times between now and baby arriving!

I think both knowing and not knowing are special for different reasons - however be prepared for everyone staring at your bump and passing comment. On a delicate day (where nothing fits) I do feel really self-conscious people staring and commenting on the shape etc.

MrsWajs · 09/11/2010 18:51

Ha oneof8 I thought I was a bitch!! You can have the gold medal as long as I can claim silver?? :)

I have also used the 'you are not as committed line..' even though I know it's bad, but quite right I feel, they sacrifice nothing and we have to give up everyhting, as I told him yesterday - nothing has changed for him, he still goes to the pub and he is still smoking, the only difference is that now I nag him about all of it!!

I hope all this aggro passes once baby is here and I can return to my usual zen like state!!

YorkshireTeaDrinker · 09/11/2010 22:04

Just a quickie to let you know that baby Eleanor arrived by emergency c-section at 7.00am on Friday 5th November.

Will catch up properly / fill you in on the details tomorrow. Was a bit of a trial, but she is well worth it. :)

HRHCavey · 09/11/2010 22:19

Big congrats Yorkshire

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