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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

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feedmenow · 18/05/2008 21:21

Dooby and Trips I admire you both! (I would also admire you if you WERE going to pursue it ) I suppose that things have already changed for others and nothing can be done to change what happened to you both, so in some ways it WOULD just be a waste of precious energy, sad as that seems.

But I find it important to remember (and forgive me if I offend) that their body's were nothing more than shells. The real THEM was their souls and their spirits, and they cannot be hurt any more by what happens to their shells. I think that I think the only disrespect that can be shown to our angels after the have gone would be the disrespect of them being forgotten, IYSWIM.

Anyway, am off to spend some time with dp. He is all sulky that he has had to play "mum" the whole weekend looking after ds, doing the shopping and the washing and stuff while I have been surrounded by loud children and gallons of hairspray!

Night all. Sleep tight. xx

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shabster · 18/05/2008 22:03

Trips - so glad to hear you talking with 'attitude' tonight. Plenty of UMPAH is needed When Greek people party they really party....they eat and drink and dance...when they dance they all shout UMPAH think it must mean Ooooooooooooooooohhh yes (like the Churchill dog!!)

I asked, by telephone, about my boys when the Alder Hey scandal was going on. The person who talked to me on the phone just cut me short and said 'We are not a teaching hospital and we havent retained any organs from your children.' I asked for a letter confirming that and I am still waiting......my Matt donated his corneas, he carried a donor card all the time. He was disatisfied with his 'willie' and hoped that if he carried a card he could get a new, big, improved willie from a donor When he was taken to the local hospital and declared dead on arrival, I asked the nurse could they use any of his organs. She was so shocked I had asked. I said to her 'just check his jeans pockets he will have his donor card in.' OMG I miss him. UMPAH, UMPAH, UMPAH. I will convince myself soon

triplets · 18/05/2008 22:07

Did you know that the only part of my Matthew that was used was his corneas too? My Matthew always believed in donating, he always daid, "you might as well Mum, when youre dead youre dead!"

shabster · 18/05/2008 22:09

OMG Trips....another connection???? OMG. Weren't our Matthews wonderful

Right come on my love plenty of UMPAH

triplets · 18/05/2008 22:11

We must be soul mates Shabs, no other word for it xxx

shabster · 18/05/2008 22:13

Sounds good to me Trips....have put you a Beatles song on the multiples!! Radio Ga Ga is on air!!! FMN - night night honey see you in the morning

A snog for your DP xxxxxx Tell him I have wiped my sweaty moustache!!

triplets · 18/05/2008 22:15

Tis early for you Shabs! Dh went to bed at 8.30pm, feeling rotten
Appt at the hopital at 10.30am, fingers x`d
night night xxx

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 19/05/2008 06:26

Morning all.

Triplets and Dooby - I am so mad and upset for you. I think the way you have coped with the added upset is remarkable.

Triplets - I am sending lots of strength, healing and positive vibes your husbands way.

To everyone - do you ever wonder why we were dealt such a shitty hand in life? I know there are people who are in worse situations, but I can't help wondering 'what one earth have I done to deserve this?' and more importantly 'what on earth did our children do to deserve this?'

In my saner moments I know damn well that our children didn't do anything to deserve such a fate, but I can't help questioning 'why me?'

I think I'm probably looking for an answer that isn't there. But I wondered if anyone else feels like this?

shabster · 19/05/2008 06:33

Morning Moveit - I only feel like that every hour of every day

I have searched for answers but never found any 'good enough' reasons or explanations.

umberella · 19/05/2008 09:12

hijack (sorry ladies!)

feedmenow just a quick note to let you know I emailed you back last week (just in case it went to your spam folder) and do let me know if you got it okay

hijack over

feedmenow · 19/05/2008 11:08

Umberella, thanks for the hijack! I emailed you the picture - did you get it? I haven't had anything since then......

Trips, hope the appt went/is going well! Thinking of you and dh. x

Shabs, I just told dp about the sweaty moustache thing (we work together) and he made some sort of funny noise that I can't even attempt to type!

What a lovely, down to earth boy having a donor card. Bless him. xx

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Doobydoo · 19/05/2008 11:18

UMPAH Ladies
Thinking of you Trips
I don't ever think why me..I suppose I think Why Not!Once I stopped looking for reasons I felt better in some ways[ifykwim].Can totally understand trying to work out why
Hope today is ok for you all

LouiseAnn · 19/05/2008 11:57

More love, hugs and prayers for everyone, esp Trips & her husband.

xxx

hazygirl · 19/05/2008 13:46

hi girls im worried now we decided after much thinking to donate organs to medical science as they were not finished with for months after jaydens burial ,they will not contact us again would they in years to come will they. ive got the funeral of friend tomoorrow ,but clearing his home out has been sad ,ive scrubbed and cleaned .his solictor did not want us to sort things out like his bed till next week but got it sent back last week and they said it would be used this week by someone desperate to get out of hospital so i feel better. tribs i send u big hugs to you and your lovely family,mathew will be watching over you.shabs your a wonderful gal who keeps me laughing,ill give a granny moment to laugh at i picked our lovely baby up the other day after feeding and she pulled my blouse to get to me and through up cauliflower cheese into my bra, it smelt awful ,nearly threw up myself , i bet you cant wait for new baby .fmn big hugs to you x and everyone elsexx

Loli · 19/05/2008 16:22

Would just like to say how brave you all are. losing a child is the hardest thing ever. My little angel Holly had a rare brain disorder which caused a whole range of other problems for her. She was little fighter and was with us longer than expected. She was taken into hospital on the 7th of this month with breathing problems, the next day the drs said she had pneumonia and on the evening the next day my brave little angel lost her fight and passed away peacefully, she was 20 months old. I take solice in the fact that she didn't suffer long. I miss her more than words can say.

'God saw you getting weary,
a cure was not to be,
He put his arms around you
And whispered 'come to me'
You fought so hard so bravely
our little angel.....Holly'

shabster · 19/05/2008 18:18

OMG Loli - such a recent loss, so for you. Holly sounds a real fighter. This will be so raw for you.

You are in the right place - Eris' thread is wonderful. A place to scream, cry, smile or even laugh out loud. Every emotion is allowed here. Every question is asked and every opinion can be aired without being frowned upon. We are all trying to survive the loss of our dear children.

Wish we had all met on another thread about happier stuff BUT....we will all be ok, we will all support each other

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 19/05/2008 18:23

Oh Loli, I am so sorry for your loss. You would think I would know what to say, but I'm lost for words at the moment.

So much love, strength and peace to all of your family - and of course that includes Holly xx

feedmenow · 19/05/2008 19:02

Oh Loli, so sorry you lost your precious girlie My heart swells with pride to hear what a fighter she was and I don't even know her, so you must be the proudest lady on earth! So much love to you and your family. She can become another of our beautiful little forget me nots.....

xx

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Doobydoo · 19/05/2008 21:01

Oh LoliI echo Shabsters post.And welcome to this thread.We are all here to help each other.xxxxxxxxxxx

Doobydoo · 19/05/2008 21:03

Hazy,I do not think you will be contacted as you made the conscious and brave decision to donate Jayden's organs.
THinking of you tomorrow.
xxxxxxxxxx

shabster · 19/05/2008 23:53

UMPAH ladies. I just made myself smile!!! Eris' UMPAH thread....having trouble sleeping, as always, just wanted to touch base and sign in. Going over to the multiples thread to have a gossip and a sing with my friend Triplets xxxxx

umberella · 20/05/2008 07:28

hijack again!

feedmenow - yes I got it and emailed you back to ask if you could send me a bigger version? It's only the size of a postage stamp so really hard to see any detail when i blow it up. I can do you a drawing no problem at all if you have a larger one though

shabster · 20/05/2008 10:47

Morning girls - everybody OK?

Doobydoo · 20/05/2008 11:24

Morning AllHope all are ok.
Morning shabster

shabster · 20/05/2008 11:33

Hiya Dooby - its a lovely morning here in Lancashire.

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