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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

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Doobydoo · 20/05/2008 11:38

Windy here.But I like it
Am off to hang out the washing.

Loli · 20/05/2008 15:59

Thanks for yours kind words. Feel so empty and alone. Holly used to take up so much of my time but i loved caring for her so much. I wasn't very good at getting Holly out and about much as i was scared something would happen as she suffered from epilepsy and reflux and would often choke. I feel so guilty about going out anywhere now, im either moping/bawling at home or feeling guilty for leaving the house. I hate feeling like this, i just want the pain to go away and have my baby girl in my arms again. Cant imagine my life without her and dont know what to do, feel like shes at Hope House (childrens hospice) or at the hospital. just cant get my head round the fact that im never going to see or cuddle her again, it just doesnt seem real, like a bad dream. Keep looking for signs from her to let me know that wherever she is shes ok. Sorry to be so depressing, just finding things really hard at the mo.

lottiejenkins · 20/05/2008 17:14

Hugs for you Loli........... I got back at 10pm last night from Wilfs review... I had a great time and even played rounders with the children.... i took my batting position to the sound of "go mumma go mumma" behind me!! and I was one of the last two in!!!

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 20/05/2008 17:26

Loli - I really don't think anyone expects you to behave any differently to how you are at the moment.

You are not depressing, you have lost your little girl and you're expressing your grief. I remember feeling all of the emotions and thoughts you have mentioned. At the time I thought I would never feel 'normal' again, but it does get easier. You will never stop missing Holly, but you will get used to not having her with you anymore.

I wish I could find more words of comfort for you. But I would recommend posting here, as writing it down can feel like an emotional purge.

LouiseAnn · 20/05/2008 19:01

Loli - I am so sorry about your little girl, Holly. It is very early days for you. Be kind to yourself. Talk to trusted friends. Let yourself grieve. Please make yourself at home here. It is a lovely group of ladies. When you post here, you know the others understand some of what you are going through.

feedmenow · 20/05/2008 20:45

Hi Loli. Come here and be as depressed as you want and need. Or come here and tell us about happy times and we'll smile with you. And sometimes come here and tell us funny things and we'll laugh with you and nobody will judge you for how you should or shouldn't be.

I sometimes feel that I'm wrong because I'm not still crying all the time, but when I'm here I just know that nobody is judging me and that they'll each just go with the flow with me, and I think everyone else feels that too.

You must be missing Holly dreadfully and I can imagine how you long to hold her in your arms. I bet you were a fantastic mum to her when she was here with you, and I have no doubt that you'll continue to be a fantastic mum to her even though she is no longer in your arms.

Lottie, it's lovely to know that you had such a good time. Simple things in life can bring a real warmth to your heart can't they?

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lottiejenkins · 21/05/2008 09:16

Morning all xxxxxxx

shabster · 21/05/2008 10:06

Morning Lottie...Morning my lovely friends.

It feels like Autumn outside....brrrr bit nippy

Doobydoo · 21/05/2008 11:23

Morning AllHope everyone is ok today.
Off to look at a house today.We lived in it about 4ish years ago before we went back to UK.It has lovely views over the River Blackwater and the rent is cheaper

feedmenow · 21/05/2008 16:55

Hello all.

Shabs, I have FINALLY got some blue forget me nots (have got loads of pink ones, but the blue ones were more shy) and they are for your boys, as promised.

Loli, are you around? How are you feeling today? Just wanted you to know that I'm thinking of you......

Did anyone watch Waking the Dead last night? The bit right at the end had me sobbing

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carrielou2007 · 21/05/2008 21:57

I had a lovely patient in to see me today whom I have not seen for 6 months. When she came in 6 months ago she had not seen me since I came back from maternity leave and we had a nice chat about being a mum (dd is my first). She asked how old dd was and when I then said 10 months her face just fell. She then told me her first child Christine had died aged 10 months. We talked about it and she told me she still thinks about her every day, she is in her 80's.

When I saw her booked in to see me today I remembered our last conversation about her daughter. She was really stunned that I had mentioned it (didn't just blurt it out we had been talking about my dd how she was etc). I thought bugger I have upset this lovely lady, she had a few tears and I felt like a piece of poo.

It is so easy to offend and upset someone, I don't know how I would get through it.

shabster · 21/05/2008 22:25

carrie - you wont have upset her she will be touched that she could share her story...aw poor love - the feeling of loss never goes away.

lottiejenkins · 22/05/2008 07:58

Morning Ladies xx

hazygirl · 22/05/2008 08:21

hi girls hope you all okxxxx

Doobydoo · 22/05/2008 09:24

Morning all.Hope all are ok today

shabster · 22/05/2008 11:39

Morning girls. Beautiful day here again - my DIL has aches and pains in (as she put it!) her flue!!! Told her not to go near the hospital if she has any contractions to come to my house...and we will wait it out!! Shes not due for 2 weeks so Im not holding my breath xx

feedmenow · 22/05/2008 12:04

Carrie, I agree with Shabs that you probably wouldn't have upset her....well, not in a bad way anyway, IYSWIM! Infact, it is probably absolutely lovely for her that you DID remember. xx

Shabs, her "flue"?? I've not heard it called that before!

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shabster · 22/05/2008 12:24

Must be a 'quaint' lancashire word Im fighting the urge to pester our Emma - watch her go overdue now!!

mummaknowsbest · 22/05/2008 16:13

Hi everyone

I've never posted in this section before but would like to share a poem with you all. I think we can all relate to it.

These shoes

I am wearing a pair of shoes,
they are ugly shoes,
uncomfortable shoes,
I hate my shoes.

Each day I wear them and each day I wish I had another pair,
some days my shoes hurt so bad that I don't think I can take another step.
Yet, I continue to wear them.

I get funny looks wearing these shoes,
they are looks of sympathy,
I can tell in others eyes that they are glad they are my shoes and not theirs,
they never talk about my shoes,
to learn how awful my shoes are might make them uncomfortable.

To truely understand these shoes you must walk in them,
but, once you put them on you can never take them off,
I now realise that I am not the only one who wears these shoes,
there are many pairs in this world.

Some woman are like me and ache daily as they try to walk in them,
some have learned to walk in them so they don't hurt quite as much,
some have worn the shoes so long that days will go by before they think about how much they hurt.

No woman deserves to wear these shoes,
yet, because of these shoes I am a stronger woman,
these shoes have given me the strenght to face anything,
they have made me who I am,
I will forever walk in the shoes of a woman who has lost a child.

hazygirl · 22/05/2008 17:10

i work with a lovely lady who used to live in bolton she always says fluex

shabster · 22/05/2008 18:56

mumma - how true are those lines. Thank you for putting them on here! I dont link my shoes either sometimes.....

shabster · 22/05/2008 18:56

why did I put 'link' and not 'like' - it has been a very long day!!

frasersmummy · 22/05/2008 20:22

evening everyone.. good grief the days pass quickly when you try to keep your housework up to date instead of posting on mumsnet dont they ?? Unfortunately the flaw in this plan seems to be that my housework is still behind!!!

Welcome Loli .. the best advice I have is to take time to aknowledge your grief. If you want to cry do it if you want to yell and scream then do it. If there are days when you feel a smile coming on then dont feel bad. I know others have said it before me but you will eventually be able to plan for the future again. In the meantime one small step at a time

Loli · 22/05/2008 21:29

Thanks for all your encouraging words. My day started as usual today, weeping and bawling. Dr has given me diazepam which just makes me feel numb, cant find a middle ground. Feel shity and tired and cant stop crying if i dont take it, then when i take it i just feel empty and in a daze. Its only a realy low dose. Dont want to take it but am in such a mess if i dont. Dont know what to do. Also cant bring myself to look at any photos of Holly except the ones that are up around the house, feel like im forgetting her already. Someones coming round next week to collect some of her medical equipment like suction machine, oxgen masks, bath sling, i want them to go because they're all horrible things, but feel like im throwing her out. I just hate all these feelings, want to come here and tell you what a beautiful girl she was and be positive, but all i feel is negative.

shabster · 22/05/2008 21:36

Awww Loli - come here love, let me give you a hug.

All normal feelings sweetie - totally normal.

You will never, ever forget her - you loved her too much to forget her.

You will find the common ground - the part where you can function much better. You will learn to smile and laugh out loud. I promise you that better times will come.

Holly would be worrying about you and wishing she could help. I know she would say 'go and talk to the other mums on Eris' thread.' Keep coming back to 'our' thread. We will always try to help in any way we can.

Chin up darling, one foot in front of the other and dont forget to breathe.

email me if you want to - another way of putting down your feelings. [email protected] xxxxxxxxxx

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