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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

OP posts:
ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 16/04/2008 20:19

Frasersmummy - we certainly find the run up to anniv's and special occassions is worse than the actual day.

Much love to you and yours xx

shabster · 16/04/2008 20:24

My son - Matt - is celebrating his 24th birthday in June - and I am thrilled to say we will be on holiday in our beloved Faliraki, Rhodes. The barman, Nikos, lost his adult brother about 18 months ago and we are in touch with him weekly, we are the only people who talk about Costas with him - the Greeks dont show sorrow and tend to keep it more hidden than the English do. He has already said we will have a party for him! Matt would love that. Tommy is practising singing 'Pump up the jam' for the karaoke because Matt adored that song.

The build up to the day is definitly much worse than the actual day.

lottiejenkins · 16/04/2008 20:35

FMN.We had a small wooden coffin for Jack which had been handmade. I didnt realise about not charging now,,, Jacks funeral was thirteen years ago so i suspect what the FD did was unusual then. My mum was so impressed with the FD that she used him when my Great Aunt died aged 106. He drove halfway to Haselmere met the FD from there and brought her back here... He's a very special person!!

youngbutnotdumb · 16/04/2008 20:40

I haven't lost a child myself but my aunt and older cousin have and I have to say I don't know how any of you manage you are all an inspiration I think I'd just curl up into a ball if anything happened to my DS. My sympathies to all of you and I'm sure your children will be sitting on a cloud smiling down on you proud of you strength. Hope I don't sound to chesy but it has to be said xxx

LynetteScavo · 16/04/2008 20:46

fedmenow...read your post any couldn,t not say anything. I'm not a brieved mummy (thank God).. and havn't gone through my worst nightmare like you.... just want to hug you and say I'm so, so sorry for you as, I sit here typing.. so, so sorry. I wish I could make things better for everyone.

amyjade · 16/04/2008 20:55

FMW,Strangely Libby is nothing like Freya but my son Fraser is a spitting image of her!!(great name Frasersmummy!!!)xx

Libby was born only 8 weeks after Freya died and learning to love another child so soon after losing another was so very difficult i was wracked with guilt when doing anything with Libby from what songs i sang to her to what TV programmes i let her watch,even going to the same park!!.
Everything reminded me of Freya and i felt like i was betraying her if i did it with Libby. The guilt eased over time and i slowly began to enjoy being Libby's mummy without feeling so guilty. It makes me cry even now to think of how much it all hurt back then Libby is now a happy 2 1/2 year old now who means the world to me, i just wish i could have enjoyed her more when she was tiny and seen her and her big sister together.

Sadly i didn't write that piece 'Say her name' i wish i could write my feelings down that well!!
I think i got it from the compassionate friends website. This is also a good place to find support along with the child bereavement trust. Here are the links below.
TCF
Child bereavement trust

Take care all xxxx

shabster · 16/04/2008 21:00

Compassionate Friends dragged me back from many dark places - especially in the early days of raw grief.

Squirdle · 16/04/2008 21:17

Feedmenow, I am so sorry for you

My first son, Caius (Cai) was stillborn 15 years ago and I still think of him every single day. You never stop missing them, but the feelings you have now will become easier to cope with one day.

Amyjade, big hugs for you today. Freya was beautiful as are Libby and Fraser. I can't believe Libby is 2 1/2 already! We will have to meet up again.

triplets · 16/04/2008 21:56

Always say their names............Frumpygrumpy made my heart sing over on our multiple thread , she said in one of her postings the other night, "see how Matthews weaves into this thread", made me feel so good. Compassionate Friends was my main life line too, and through them I met the most wonderful wonderful person, Shabster...........who has saved me from the brink more times than she can know xxx

shabster · 16/04/2008 21:59

FMN, ladies - You probably already know Trips but I'm so glad she just came into Eris' thread. Another opinion, another bereaved mum, and another great mate. Hiya trips xxxx

triplets · 16/04/2008 22:15

Hello Shabs............soul mates me and thee, and we both have darling Matthews xxxx

triplets · 16/04/2008 22:16

and we have both been married for 30 years this year!

frasersmummy · 16/04/2008 22:27

sorry everyone.... I have just noticed that when I thought my left click wasnt working earlier it clearly was ...

patience is a virtue and all that

thegrowlygus · 16/04/2008 22:28

FMN - it sounds like is was the perfect day. One thing I do slightly regret is not inviting lots of people to Hugo's funeral. But then I think at the time, just me and DH was the right way to go for us.

It is over 5 years now. Seems unbelievable really.

Out of interest - I have had 2 sons since, and here I tend to refer to them as DS1 and DS2 although, of course, Hugo is DS1. But I just don't want to have to explain every time I post about DS1. What do others do?

justjules · 16/04/2008 22:31

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shabster · 16/04/2008 22:33

growly - sorry for your loss sweetheart. I tend to name my children I wear my heart on my sleeve and couldn't care less who knows me.....but then I am a daft old menopausal nutter!!

I think that I adjust my conversation depending who I am talking to. A lady in the playground today asked if Tom was my only child. We have known each other for years but never spoken very much. I said (in one sentence) 'No, I have had four sons but two of them have died....Danny is my eldest and he's 26 and Tom is my lastborn and of course you know he is almost 11.

Then the children started coming out of school. When I glanced round she had a face like this and .

Doobydoo · 16/04/2008 22:36

What a wonderfull idea FMN.Can't find words to post my own eperience at the moment.But it is lovely to know this thread is here.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

triplets · 16/04/2008 22:36

I always find it hard filling in forms when they ask how many children you have, they just want to know about those here obviously, but I can never do it and write out of the box that I have four children but my first son died in 1994. Would feel so bad if I did not include him, he is still my child, I just can only see him in my mind. This year is a tough one, this year my Matthew will be gone 14 years, and he was here for 14 years, its a big hurdle for me. On top of another huge hurdle we are facing.

TinkerbellesMum · 16/04/2008 23:49

I'll reply properly when I'm home.

I hate the question "is she your only child?" Depending on the mood I say "1, 2, 3 or 4, take your pic"

  1. Yes, she is an only child
  2. She has a full sister who was born at 20 weeks and lived three hours
  3. She has two half brothers by her Daddy
  4. She has a full sister and two half brothers.

I hate that Lily-Hope isn't counted in how many kids I have (or grandkids) as she is as much my daughter as Tink and I wouldn't have Tink without her.

When I was pregnant my green notes were a mess where the "para" bit was. I wrote 1+1, they changed it to 0+2! I have a birth and 3 hours later a death certificate for my daughter!!! I don't care that 20 week old babies don't survive, MINE DID! She was not a miscarriage and I won't have that taken from me like that.

triplets · 17/04/2008 00:08

We usually get

  1. Are they your grandchildren?
  2. Do you have any others?

My usual answer which my husband hates is,
No, they are ours actually, we had them after two years of ivf treatment after the death of our son. They always look so shocked, but people always have to ask and sometimes I just can`t take it.

shabster · 17/04/2008 08:20

Morning friends - how are we all this freezing cold, wet morning? Well, that's what it's like in Bolton

hazygirl · 17/04/2008 08:28

hi shabster can u please cat me your address i would like to send a little something for your little one on its way .sorry for hi jack the sun is shining todayx

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 17/04/2008 08:33

Morning Shabster, I hate to rub it in but it is sunny (although chilly) here in East Anglia

triplets · 17/04/2008 09:02

Goodmorning all...........sun is shining here in Deal, from Beccas bedroom window I can see ships on the horizon!

hazygirl · 17/04/2008 09:04

you are lucky all i can see is rooftops,hope you had a nice break trips , x

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