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Eris' thread for bereaved mummies

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feedmenow · 16/04/2008 16:28

OK, so the thread begins! I tried to think og something better to call it, but all I have in my head (still) is Shabsters comment about how it would have been better if we'd all met on a thread called 'how to cope with excessive wind'!

Anyway, we have somewhere to come now. Somewhere 'proper' where we can chat and remember our precious lost children, whether they were stillborn like my angel, or whether they were with us for 2 hours, 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or 20 years. No matter how long they were here it is still so very wrong to lose a child.

I just wanted to tell you all about yesterday. It was such a very strange day. Dp and I were collected by the FD in the limo that Eris was in and we drove slowly down our road behind one of the FD men. I felt like a fraudster, like I was going to be caught out and asked what the hell we were doing 'playing' around.

Anyway, it turns out that the crem we went to is absolutely beautiful, really gogeous gardens. The service was lovely. The songs and music we chose were perfect, and both my mum and mil got up and said some really touching, beautiful words. The minister read a story I had chosen and also an extract from Winnie the Pooh that he suggested. I sat with my dd1 on one side and my ds the other, then dp next to him. We all had our arms around each other and I cried silently throughout. Then at the end the minister asked everyone else to leave so the 4 of us could say our final goodbyes, at which point I started weeping with a vengeance. It wasn't til we went outside to join everyone else that I saw all the people who had come to be with us.

We went back to my parents house for brunch, which went really well. I come from a family who crack open the wine and beer at the earliest opportunity, so the wine flowed along with the tea and coffee for the drivers. It was a beautiful day, the sun shining, so we went into the garden. The children and the men played football, the ladies chatted and did a bit of skipping (who would have ever known that I could still 'jump in'???. I had got some helium balloons printed with the words "Too beautiful for earth..." so everyone released one and 'raised a toast' to Eris. People gradually drifted off home, but a group of people stayed with us all afternoon and into the evening. We had takeaway and eventually got home about 10pm. It was a very special day. I talked about Eris lots and, very importantly, people had fun. A very important thing to do, IMO, when celebrating a life instead of mourning a death. As people left I asked them all to be sure to remember my little baby girl, to think of her often and not let her be forgotten.

Dp and I set up a fundraising page to raise money for SaNDS for people to make donations instead of brining flowers. When I checked earlier today, we have had donations of £1360! It makes me sad that we're in the position to have received those donations, but we smile when we realise how much people care.

Anyway, dp went to the FD this afternoon and picked up Eris' ashes, so we at least have now brought our daughter home. It raised a few laughs yesterday when we were asked what we planned to do with the ashes and I said we would bring her home and put her in the wardrobe with nanny (whose ashes have been in my wardrobe for 2 years now!). Some might find this odd, but others thought it touching and comforting that they would be in the wardrobe together.

Anyway, I have wittered on more than I intended. I am pleased to say that I do actually feel a sense of peace now that the funeral is over. Both dp and I had been scared of yesterday as we were both aware that a funeral brings about a finality and reality to what has happened. And somehow, facing that finality has helped me achieve a degree of acceptance.

So, in memory of my precious baby daughter, Eris, I would like to pronounce this thread for bereaved mummies "OPEN"!!

OP posts:
shabster · 11/06/2008 08:19

Morning girls - FMN I think you did mean cat cause the c is next to the v on the keyboard. I jumped to conclusions cause we have an ace hamster.

shabster · 11/06/2008 08:33

We got a really lovely 'birth of your son' card for Dan and Em. Without even a second thought I finished the writing with Mum, Dad, Uncle Gareth, Uncle Matthew and Uncle Thomas. Sealed it up and sent it to them. Then I started to panick - didnt want to upset them but didn't want to miss out anybody!

Dan just rang and said, through tears, 'Thank you so much Mum for not leaving my brothers out...your words were brilliant!' Phew - and double phew.

Think I would like to mention sunflowers in the next thread....they make me grin and bring Gareth and Matthews faces right into my head. Matt used to say 'Mam dont you just wov them fwowers - they have got smiwey faces!!'

feedmenow · 11/06/2008 11:16

Yes, I meant cat! Not vat or rat or bat (or twat!!! Thats just me!)

Cece, I can't go to the memorial, although I would have liked to. We are off to France for the week and we leave that morning. I get the impression that there are lots of services at Christmas so I imagine St Peters will do one too? I'll definately go then. Christmas is a time for children, after all.

Shabs, does your dreadlocked belly hair match your ginger beard??

Dippy, don't really know if the pregnancy is making me feel better. It all feels a bit unreal still. I don't think it helps as I don't actually know how many weeks I am. I can't get an appt to see my GP til Monday, despite the fact I rang last Friday! I don't normally insist on seeing him but I think that with all that is going on I need to see someone who knows me and knows my history (more than being pg and Eris' birth. I am the medical worlds nightmare!!)

Anyway, off to see councellor now. See you all later!

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lottiejenkins · 11/06/2008 11:41

I'll second the sunflowers Shabs!! I love them too!!

hazygirl · 11/06/2008 12:08

fmn donna says please e,mail her,shed love to talkxxhope you get into docs its crap now ,i laugh when donna couldnt get a appointment because of receptionest,whos a nosey bitch tbh ,i got her one straight away and now she always does,

shabster · 11/06/2008 12:41

Morning me lovelys.

OK I am on my way to see Lewis in RL as opposed to hospital. I have two bags of goodies for Mum and Dad!!

Never started a thread before and Im very nervous about making a mess. Can one of you more experienced ladies do it for me

The Sunflower thread for bereaved mummies. Hope you all think that is ok? You know the bit underneath where the thread can be explained a little more? I would love:- For Gareth and Matthew - only a whisper away.

Will be back later. If anybody can think of a better title I am open to suggestions

Speak soon my friends xxxxxxx

lottiejenkins · 11/06/2008 14:02

I think your idea for the name is beaowwwwuitful as my son would say!

shabster · 11/06/2008 15:27

Thanks Lottie - Sunflowers have always been special to my family.

I AM IN LOVE WITH A MUCH YOUNGER MAN....there we go the confession has been made.

Lewis had his eyes open today. Big dark blue eyes. OMG girls how beautiful.

He is so like all of my four sons, but especially like Uncle Gareth. It made my tummy flip over and my heart beat faster and faster. I talked to him and told him how much I loved him. He just kept his eyes on my face and invaded my heart I never knew being a gran was this wonderful.

I hope you are all having a good day.

hazygirl · 11/06/2008 16:17

i told you and i have four and love them all sooo much xenjoy its a brillant new eposide o
of your lifexxxxx

feedmenow · 11/06/2008 19:08

Shabs, lovely thread title. You go girl! Have you really never started a thread before ?

As for the being in love with a younger man, it sounds to me like you are fully justified!

I had counselling today and finally got a copy of my labour notes and pm results. I didn't think I'd actually want to read the pm straight away but I read it as soon as I got into the car. Blubbed like a good 'en. From what I read, I don't think it was as straight forward as I originally thought. Although she died from lack of oxygen, it would seem that it was possibly a gradual thing and that she was malnourished and being deprived of enough oxygen for a while. I don't think the lack of oxygen was cay=using brain damage, but I just hate the thought that she was suffering, and gradually fading away Anyway, this is my interpretation only. I am going to send a copy of the report to my knowledgable friend who has said he will translate for me. I hope I'm wrong cos I don't want her to have suffered.....

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shabster · 11/06/2008 19:29

FMN - for what its worth I really dont think you could have prevented anything that happened to Eris - Im not just saying that to try and please you - if I thought differently I would just not post and stay quiet.

Its one of those awful 'if only' thoughts. The 'if only' thoughts do soften over time. If you didn't love Eris you wouldn't be having these thoughts - the fact that you adored her makes it even 'harder' cause you blame yourself. Every bereaved mum I have ever spoken to says 'if only I had.....' 'if only I hadn't'.

We all look for a reason....someone to blame.

I wish I could take you for a few moments down life for maybe 10 years. Just so you could feel 'older grief' - it still hurts intensly but we learn to bear it. I hope, so much, that I have not upset you - its just my true thoughts on the loss of precious life.

shabster · 11/06/2008 19:31

....and no, I have never started a thread!! I think as you pass the baton to my lads you should start it and then hopefully by the time I pass the baton I will have learnt the art of 'thread starting.'

What a coward am I??????

Doobydoo · 11/06/2008 20:02

FMNI am pleased you can have the pm translated by a friend.FWIW in my experience as a paed and neonatal nurse i really don't believe Eris will have suffered.I would not post this if i did not believe it to be true.
I agree,also, with Shabsters post.
One of the first things i remember thinking when Hannah died and during her brief life was I hope she did not suffer and all parents who have lost a child [that i have met as a nurse and spoken to]have the same thoughts.

shabster · 11/06/2008 21:19

Hiya girls - just going round to my friends for a few drinks - making the most of Tom being on holiday with the school - they are back on Friday xxxx Speak soon.

chegirl · 11/06/2008 22:30

Just want to say hello to you all and hope babies are doing well. Sorry about my ME ME ME post last night. And thanks for those who read it and understood x

I feel a wee bit nervous of replying sometimes because I am really worried I will get names etc wrong. I have a real problem with my memory since Billie died. It is beyond a joke. Its getting a little better and I think it is down to concentration. Has anyone else here noticed this? I used to be a proper sharp little madam and now I have to double check everything and write everything down.

Anyway. Hope today was manageble for you all. Take care x

shabster · 12/06/2008 01:42

oh chegirl - never, ever apologise for your emotions and feelings. Please dont worry about daft stuff like getting names wrong. We have a lovely 'gang' here. Eris gave us the chance to talk and spill our emotions. We all have a common goal to strive for the light at the end of the tunnel. We are all survivors.

shabster · 12/06/2008 01:44

...also why shouldnt it be a ME ME ME thought? We all have times when we could just scream. I sometimes go in my friends cupboard under the stairs and swear, shout and scream. They are used to me now. Never apologise for your grief. xxx

shabster · 12/06/2008 02:03

See you all in the morning - FMN need you to change the thread name for me........I will just put my fingers in my ears and la la la la la la la

Kale Nita. xxxxx

shabster · 12/06/2008 08:32

Morning girls - everybody ok?

hazygirl · 12/06/2008 09:20

morning shabs how is granny feeling todayxx

shabster · 12/06/2008 09:35

Feeling fine thanks Hazy - My friends just texted from Faliraki to say they got there ok! We met them there about 5 years ago and we have all been away together about 3 times. They said at 7am that it was 85 degrees there - think I may be burnt to a crisp at the end of June????

You ok love?

hazygirl · 12/06/2008 12:48

yes fine its funeral of my friend today whos died ,shes 49,worked in care home together,she was such a wonderful person,ive never met a more cheerful and caring person in my life,but funeral is at 1.30 today, and i cant face going,since jayden died ,since january ive been to 3 ,and i cant face another but im know so many are going ,but i dont want to feel guilty, ive prob only seen her a dozen times since jayden died, but she had a little girl who was born asleep and i know shell be with her again,and watch out for our little manxx
sorry im rambling

shabster · 12/06/2008 13:26

thanks for the lovely card Hazey - thank you. You are not rambling darling - we had a spell of about a year when we went to about 14 funerals - it brings back the past and drains you.

Will the next person to post start a new thread for me - I have never done it before!! Im scared in case I do it wrong

lottiejenkins · 12/06/2008 13:41

I think im writing the last thread on here................ I just want to say thanks to everyone who has been on this thread for supporting me as i talk about Jack!
On a lighter note i got a rather amusing/scary email from Wilf last night saying he'd been sailing and fallen in and had to be rescued! Not the thing to read half an hour before you go to bed. All i can say is thank goodness for LifeJackets!!!

shabster · 12/06/2008 14:34

See you on the new thread

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