Antenatal support thread for women who have chosen to terminate VI

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Time for a new thread, ladies. May it continue to give us comfort, and help us find a special, sunny place in our hearts, where our babies are safely tucked in. May it bring good luck to everyone who posts or justs reads.

And to the old-timers, it?s so lovely to still have you here with us, reaching out.

hey ladies!!

what a beautifully sunny day it is today (and was yesterday). can't help but make you smile. i had my friend over today (with her 2 kids and 8 week old baby girl).....actually it was ok. i had some hugs with the baby and i didn't feel too sad, i guess i was able to disassociate my feelings about Eve from her. it was nice to see my friend too....she is one of the ones who was aware of the situation so it was nice to be completely open, and like Misty said, she didn't dwell on it, but was just nice and supportive.

oh - and for the record i did jump on mr bigz last night. poor man was a little surprised i think as i think he still thought auntie flo was here, so my seduction (of sorts) caught him off guard! think i would have got a blazing +opk on friday had auntie not tricked me into thinking she's arrived, and therefore making me stopped peeing on a stick!

cinnamon/kat - talking of opks, i've used the internet cheapies for a while now, and they've always been fine for me. i buy them in bulk of ebay (recently got a mix of 85 opks and 15 hpts for £12 incl p&p - from a shop called home health i think. i need more than the standard 7 a month as my O date varies (as does my cycle length) - also around when i start getting lines, i tend to do more than 1 a day to make sure i get the 'surge'. but when i was temping, the +opks always tied in with my O temp shift, so i would recommend them as a cheaper alternative!! flower i've always had a 2nd line positive enough to know that i'm due to O.....maybe because like i said, i tend to do 2 or 3 around when i start getting 2nd lines, just to make sure i catch the surge. yay for the ewcm though, i hope you catch the egg this month!!!

misty hope the day with the ILs goes well and they're understanding without being too sympathetic - ikwym about the sympathy side of things when you're starting to move on a little with things.

cant hi, lovely to hear from you and thanks so much for sharing your experiences. it's so reassuring to know that it can and does happen quickly after a loss. interesting to hear about the different ways in which future pgs can be treated by the nhs - i'm hoping i'll be one of the ones where they offer me everything, even if i don't take it all up!

** to everyone else - will catch up with you all again soon xxx

POSITIVE OPK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (+ a bit of ewm)

Oh my word i am SO happy I cannot tell you ladies how worried i was that i was going to be dead from the waist down forever. Its day 21 so god knows how long my cycles going to be but who cares????!!!!! Not me! The in laws just left and i shot upstairs to pee on my stick - and there it was. Glorious! I even dragged OH upstairs to look at it, ha ha.

mrsbigz - those sticks you're getting are REALLY cheap! I didnt know the price was that good. Right - next batch are from there. I'm so glad you had a good chat with your friend, and that she understood. Makes a world of difference having a good girly natter xxxxxx

Must fly now 'cos i'm meant to be starting tea - but i just wanted to share my happiness with you all. The world feels like a better place tonight. Good vibes, and love to all of us xxxxxxxxxxx

That's brilliant! No need to ask what'll be going on in the misty household tonight!

On a serious note, must be so reassuring that you have proof that your body is 'getting back to normal'. Am really, really pleased for you and the relief you must be feeling.

Only very quick because I am currently suffering with what I am afraid I think is a kidney infection. Really hoping it's not; had one on and off for nearly 6 months last year, ended up taking alomost 6 weeks of work and having all kinds of drugs and tests at the hospital. They never really worked out what it was so now am petrified it's back as it'll mean no ttc till it's gone. Good luck? What's that?!

Hugs to all, happy peeing!!

xxxxxx

misty woop woop!!! this'll sound strange (if not a bit freaky!) but i was thinking about you today wondering whether you'd peed yet and if it was positive!! remember you usually O between 12-36 hours after a +opk (so prob tomorrow) and the egg itself lasts about 12 hours. so plenty of time!! OMG i sound so nerdy!!
completely understand your feelings about knowing your body is 'returning' to normal and at least managing to O. when i 'thought' AF had shown up on weds, i was thinking i'd had an annovulatory cycle, so was also pleased to see a +opk yesterday :)

cinnamon i'm so sorry to hear about your previous infection and i hope that it's not the same that has returned. i guess with the bank hol you can't get to a doctor until tues at the earliest...i do hope that you are feeling better tomorrow though and it's not the same as last year

speak soon xx

Wow what a busy thread! I didn't have a very good signal on my phone whilst away so have been reading through today! Sorry for lack of p's but there was so much to read through I don't know where to start!

Thanks to all who wished me a good hol was nice to get away for a few days! Also hello to Kat hope you are coping as well as you can hugs. Hope the others who have been away have had a good time too. Can sympathise with washing......!

How has the stick peeing been? I see some of you have had good results! I spent my fertile days in a family room in a hotel so I'm guessing tis month is out for me :-'(

Also I've got a pain really low and it's starting to hurt when I walk now......Convincing myself of all sorts now and I'm convinced I'm never going to get pregnant again! Surely I can't still be experiencing pains 3 months after my termination?! Another thing for me to obsess about! Back at University next week and have to essays due which I haven't even started....Not very good behaviour from a MATURE student ha ha! Trouble is all I'm concerned with now is having a baby.....My head just tells me that compared with loosing baby grades etc are just unimportant!

Feel terrible for not acknowledging everyone but I truly do not know where to begin! I have read all your posts though I promise!

Hello to everyone xxxx

Oh cinnamon - i realy hope its not an infection. What a pain in the bum. I've had a couple of those and its miserable. Are you on antibi's yet? Nip it in the bud quick - as you know the quicker you catch this sort of thing the better it is. Drink LOADS of water hun. And yes you're right - the +OPK has made me so happy not so much because i think i'm going to fall pg. this week or anything, its conformation that i'm ticking over again. I feel sorry for my poor body! And i'm proud/releived that the engine's still running. Look after yourself and let us know whats happening. Your health is more important than ttc (i know, i know, but it IS)

hello bluecat - glad you've had a good break. Family rooms are tricky for ttc i should think yeah....... And you're in pain too? i shouldnt think its anything to do with your termination. Would it be something you've done/eaten/not done while away? When i go away from home i dont go to the loo (sorry!) for the first 3/4 days, and that can give me a bit of pain. Could it be something like that if its low down? I can really understand you having trouble getting to grips with your Uni work. God above i can barely do the weekly shop without forgetting half of it, lol, so you're doing brilliantly. Just take your time, do you use a time management timetable thing for your Uni work? When i had to study last year i found it so helpfull to set myself a stict (but doable) timetable for getting my head down to work. Be good to yourself.

mrsbigz - thank you xxxxx and big big congrats on your + too. Not sounding nerdy at all. Now i've got my positive i needed reminding what to do about it! Lol - not literaly - but how long i'd got. So thank you. (another early night tonight ).

Hello to everyone else - more sunshine, but blimey its windy here! We took the inlaws up to the Avon Dasset Hills (if anyone knows the place?) Beautiful sunshine but we nearly got blown off our feet! Really clears the head. They were very kind but didnt dwell on what's happened - bless them. Well - OH is suggesting that today we either go out, (more wind) or have a Star-Wars-athon !?!?!?!? Hmmmmm ...... maybe a bit of both. Have a good day ladies. xx

Hi can I join you?
We lost our baby at 13 weeks due to T21, severe hydrops and a 11mm nuchal. I had surgical management at Marie Stopes in mid March.
Starting to feel a bit stronger emotionally after a nice week away. Lucky to have a lovely H and supportive family and friends. All my friends have children now though which I find very hard.
We want to ttc again now but my body isn't behaving I have a 5cm corpus luteum cyst. Have had one af and am now on the pill for a cycle to try and shrink the cyst.
Anyone here have fertility problems? We have been ttc for 2 years now I have endo and we conceived this time with clomid. I'm nearly 34 and feel time is running out.

Hi Cant, thanks for your message, I find it enormously comforting that people can get pregnant quickly after such terrible experiences. Fingers crossed for us all.

Misty, Hurrah for not being dead from the waist down! FWIW I always ovulate around day 21 and my cycle is 44 days. Know exactly what you mean about seeing well meaning people for the first time. I have a friend coming tomorrow evening, the first since this happened, and she?s pregnant. I really hope I?m ok.

Mrsbigz, I?m well impressed by your knowledge of all this ovulation stuff. You?ve inspired me to buy 50 opks from ebay. Gives me some geekery to look forward to. (Hope it was a fruitful encounter on Saturday?, you too Misty)

cinnamon poor you with the kidneys. I had three kidney infections over two years and they were horrendous. I have no idea what was causing them as they weren?t investigated but they did go away. Hope it was just something and nothing.

Hi bluecat, hope your pain?s gone. I can?t imagine trying to study in this frame of mind so go easy on yourself.

I managed absolutely fine out with husband and daughter yesterday, she was better behaved for me being there. It?s all gone wrong this morning though as I?m back on my own with her now. I took her to a non-local park (as I can?t bear meeting anyone) and almost every other woman in the park was pregnant and had a toddler about my daughter?s age. Those that weren?t actively and obviously pregnant all had little babies in prams. All I could think was ?that should be me?. Thank god it was sunny as I had sunglasses on but I had problems holding back the tears in the playground and as soon as I had got us back to the car I couldn?t stop crying until I?d got home. I?ll have to take her out somewhere else this afternoon to wear her out and I?m just dreading it. I suppose this is my life now and I?ll just have to get used to it.

Otherwise, I just have a moan about so-called friends. There are still two people who have never responded to my message saying that everything had gone wrong with my pregnancy and I was going into hospital. I don?t know them massively well but well enough to have been to their houses and they?ve been to mine. I know them through playgroups really but unfortunately bump into them quite often in the street etc. Why would they not have just sent a message back saying sorry or something? I would never not respond to a message like that from someone. Too awkward? I can?t quite believe they would be openly hostile towards me because of what I have had to do. Even my two or three full-on religious friends weren?t like that. Has anyone else had similar?

Anyway, must take headache pills and have a lie down before I have to drag myself out to yet another non-local park.

Hope you?re all ok and having a good day.

Hello blacktreaclecat Welcome. Of course you can join us, the kettle's always on! xx

So sorry to hear about your loss.

Most of us ladies posting regulaly here at the moment have had a termination with the last 4/5 weeks. Some even more recently. If you've been brave enough to plough through some of our recent posts you'll know that we all have our good days and bad days - but whatever's happening you can share it here with us.

Personaly i cant give you any practical advice with your ttc, except to empathise strongly with the desperate need to be pregnant again asap. I'm only on day 21 since my procedure so havent got very far yet. The fact that you've had one normal AF is encouraging though. It sounds like your getting good medical support too. I'm sure one of the ladies here will be able to help you a little more with some personal experiences. Its lovely to hear that you have plenty of support with your H and friends. Hard when you've got people around you with children, and your feeling low. Clomid worked for you before - all our fingers will stay crossed for you xxxxxx

kat - so sorry you had a rotton time at the park xxxx I know just how you feel from sobbing all the bloody way home from swimming that day. You're enotions just come storming out dont they? You'll probably find that you'll cope better next time you're in a situation like that again - i think somehow we set up a coping mechanism when it all comes out like that. I hope you had a better outing later in the day? Like mrsbigz, i imagine your friend will be sensitive to your feelings tomorrow night. My meal out with my friend on Sat. was a real tonic. We chatted about EVERYTHING, and i didnt blub. We laughed alot together.

On the subject of friends who have failed you - its not your fault, or anything you've done wrong. Some people are not equiped, for whatever reason, to cope with responding to other peoples grief/despair/pain.....they may not have been in a crisis themselves and learned the value of a simple kind message. I found that out when my father passed away suddenly - i got some of my best support from some of the most unlikely people at work - really moving. And others, who i saw everyday, hardly acknowleged me. I just think those who avoided me then must have been squirming inside.

You've got great support form your family, most of your friends, OH and all of us girlies here! xxxxx

Hello everyone this is going to be a quick post.

My sister in-law is pregnant and it is to me the worst news ever, I'm a terrible terrible person I know but in all honesty I feel rather pi££ed off about it!!

misty0 you're prob right I think I'm so worried about ttc that I think some problem is going to pop up! glas you're enjoying the sunshine....Makes you feel a little better doesn't it?

Welcome blacktreaclecat I'm sorry you have ended up here and so sorry for your loss. It must make it so hard especially when you had been trying for so long. You are in good company here though xxxxx

kat I am sorry for your recent loss too I did follow your story on your other thread. Life is just a bag of crap sometimes isn't it?

Big hello to everyone else......Hope you're all in a much better moods than me!

Right back to the books xxxxxxxxxx

Hi blacktreaclecat, sorry for your loss and fingers crossed for you. You are still young, honestly! I can't really contribute anything about your current problems but please do join in.

misty I braved the local shop and didn't see anyone I knew. Little steps but important ones! Regarding friends, I got a lovely text and then another email from two other friends so I felt less isolated then and bit the bullet and arranged to see them soon. I am looking forward to seeing my friend tomorrow as I think it will be an important step for me. Plus she is bringing me DVDs which I do need to pass the evenings. (Please can One Born Every Effing Minute be taken off the air please?) I'm listening to music now, mostly angry music from my distant youth but it's something I've only started doing today. Interesting that I've felt like it.

What you say about when you lost your dad sounds so familiar. Some people who I wouldn't have considered more than casual acquaintances, have really surprised me by emailing and following me up a few times to see what was happening and I am really grateful to them. Especially one who is a doctor and offered 'technical' help in understanding everything we were facing.

Bluecat (too many cats on this thread!) You're not a terrible person. I am far worse, I specialise in spiteful and ungenerous thoughts. I shan't publicise them or I'll be driven off the thread but lets just say I am bound to have thought far worse things than you.

Hello to everyone else. Hope you're all ok.

helloooooo fave ladies!!

Blacktreaclecat - i'm so sorry that you find yourself over on this board, and for your recent loss. as the others have said we are all getting over losses quite recently too (although all at slightly different stages) and can empathise exactly with what you are feeling. It must be doubly hard though when you have been trying for so long. i've not experienced any fertility problems myself but my brother and his wife have been trying for almost 4 years (with 1 failed ivf cycle) and i'm very close to them and understand how hard a decision that must have been for you. you will find a LOT of support on this thread and i'm glad to hear you also have a good RL support too.

kat sorry to hear about your experience at the park today. I know this sounds like a cliche, but that part of it does get easier....even a few weeks on from you, i find it easier to see other pregnant women (though don't get me wrong, sometimes it sneaks up on me and takes me by surprise). i did have a couple of episodes similar to yours in the first couple of weeks after we lost Eve, and sobbing all the way home. it WILL get easier, i promise...
re: your friends - I wonder whether they're the type (as already mentioned) that just DON'T know what to say/do in that situation. i think that when you have been through a loss (of whatever magnitude) then you find it easier to know what to say and do when others have a similar experience. I have a large extended family and have sadly said goodbye to many family members over the past 30-odd years, so I remember how i felt and what i needed when i was going through the mourning process. i think some people just really don't know what to say and feel almost uncomfortable. that aside, like you i would ALWAYS respond to a text message, even if just to say 1 word like sorry.
on a different subject - YAY for ordering some opks from ebay. fwiw, even though it completely stresses me out for the most part, i do find the 'science' behind ttc realy interesting (yep - geeky/nerdy interesting!!). also, something you said intrigued me (nerd alert!) - you mentioned you always ovulate around day 21 and have 44 day cycles.....do you KNOW you O then for sure? only usually the luteal phase lasts between about 10-16 days - whereas yours would be closer to 23 with those cycles. as a charting nerd, to me it would make more sense that you were O'ing around day 30?? sorry if i'm being rude, was just curious?

Misty hope you enjoyed your starwas-athon today and managed to keep out the wind! do you think you have def O'd now then? roll on the 2ww...

Flower did you poas yet - any positives??? seem to be a couple of them on the thread this week....come join us!

Bluecat i'm sorry to hear your down about your SIL being pregnant - it doesn't make you a bad person after all, it is completely normal after what you have been through! i've had similar clashes of conscience in my mind since my loss - and finding out workfriends are pregnant.....insanely jealous and "why them not me" but also a small part of me realises that everyone else's lives DO carry on (wise words once said very graciously to me by my brother, when i broke news to him of our pregnancy when he and his wife were starting their ivf treatment). TBH every time i find myself going down the envious/jealousy route (which is quite often!) i think about my brother and what he is going through and it grounds me and brings me back to reality!

Me well i've actually had quite a nice weekend. since the shock of realising auntie flo wan't here at all, and the shock dh received when i jumped on him on saturday it's gone uphill. yesterdays visit with my friend wasn't half as bad as i was expecting. and today i've been out with the kids (left dh at home doing freelance work) and a good friend who also has 2 boys. we went to stanwick lakes (local to northampton) and while it was beautifully sunny, blimmin 'eck, the wind was very cold and blowy!! ds1 scooted about 3 miles around the lakes, ds2 enjoyed the view from the pushchair, us girls had a great chat about life and the like (she is one of the few who knows my full story and is a great tonic for me), we then got the boys ice creams and went in the play area - bad idea, as ice cream + sand = a mess that you can't wipe off!! but much fun was had, although we did eventually give into the winds and head home. back home dh had started an impromptu BBQ so that was very nice. boys bathed and in bed (and knackered). me showered and not in bed (though should be soon as also knackered). back to work tomorrow......

Girls day out in Brum
ok - so under my new title of event coordinator (LOL) just wanted to check initially what days people could potentially do....week days, weekends?
my dh works Fri - Sun, so i COULD do then but would need a little time to organise a sitter. OR i could do a week day and take a days holiday off work - not a problem! am on holiday 18-25 June, but other than that am pretty free! will have a look at that website but thought we could throw some dates around initially??

Right must go, this has turned into a megamarathon and

kat x-post with you (took me hours to write that LOL!!)
glad the trip to the shop was ok, and really glad that you've had a couple of responses from friends - they do mean a lot don't they.

was thinking though (odd, i know!!) but the friend who came over yesterday...who i AM really close to, well she DID send me a couple of texts following my loss, but chatting to her yesterday she apologised for not having done more. she said she ummed and ahhed about sending me flowers, but wasn't sure they would be what i wanted, also wanted to call me and chat a few times, but was aware she could be interupted by (her own) newborn in the background and didn't want to put me through that if i wasn't ready. so although i was actually quite happy with the couple of texts she had sent me, i was quite touched to think she'd been thinking so hard about what not to do as well.

dunno if that helped, just thought it so i typed it!

xxxx

hi everyone

A quick post as its getting late and i have lots to to. Yes i peed on a sick and it was negative, but i may have missed surge and im taking the ewcm as a positive sign and because my cycles have been rather irregular we have taken to just having lots of sex to cover all options. Mrsbigz i may have to pick your brain later though.

Hi blacktreaclecat sorry you find yourself here, and hope you find it helpful, it is good to be able to share with people going thru the same things.

Speaking of cats after giveing up on puppies we are now looking into getting a cat, im more of a cat person anyway, been looking at some cuties on line. I'm hoping the distraction will do me good, have also thrown myself into organising birthay party for mum.

Just a quickie! Hi everyone -

flower - i got 2 kittens (think litter trays - cant touch them when preggers) and fell pregnant 6 weeks later! lol. Coil had been out 11 months by then. OH is STILL doing the cat poo picking - cos he says he just doesnt want to risk me catching something horrible while we're trying .... ahhhhhhhhh.

mrsbigz - i've had 3 days of strong positive OPK's now, a little bit of EWM, tender boobs and a touch of ov pain. However - if you were to look at my temps they give no blooming clue to whats going on ..... up,down,up again! lol So ..... i'm asuming i am - and waiting for the 'sustained temp rise' which means 'leave him alone now, and wait 2 weeks' ....

bluecat - i live in dread of my OH's brother and his wife making the announcement. They've been trying for longer us and she's 14 years younger than me! I've even got it in my head that she probably is pregnant now but they're not saying anything till a bit more time has passed since our trauma. So ...... you're not the only one lovey xxxxx I'll be absolutely SICK with envy if she does fall. Even tho' i genuinely wish them success because they are such lovely caring people.

Going now - Hi to everyone else xxxxx back later

Sorry the stick was negative flower but if your cycle's irregular then sounds like lots of sex is the best approach.

misty you sound like you've a definite O there then. Fingers crossed for you. Also, you have the same delusion that I have - I am now convinced that all my friends are pregnant but not telling me as it would upset me. I'm glad there's two of us thinking this.

mrsbigz sounds like you had a lovely weekend (in all sorts of ways...) apart from the sand / ice cream interface.

Regarding my cycle. I was told when I started trying first time that despite 44 day length I would ALWAYS ovulate around day 14. So lots of sex around day 14 for 9 months and absolutely nothing happened, except I got very depressed. I then started charting with body temp and looking for ewcm. This identified the temperature shift around day 19 so we shifted the sex focus to then and three months later I was pregnant. After my cycle came back after breastfeeding it reverted straight back to 44 days. I didn't chart but looked out for ewcm and when we started trying again we more or less only had sex around days 18-22, as for various reasons it was too much effort to sustain it all month! I got pregnant on the second month of proper trying. This seems to indicate that I do ovulate around this point. I am intrigued to know whether in your opinion this is very unusual though so feel free to share any wisdom with me.

Regarding Birmingham. I can probably just as easily do weekdays or weekends but would need notice to arrange childcare and make sure I'm not working. I'm away the first two weeks of July and I definitely couldn't do week beginning 20th June as all my childcare options are away that week.

Hope you all have good days.

Hello ladies, super quick to say hi, hope you're all okay, hello hugs to newcomers & yes, it's a f**king kidney infection. Stuck in bed shivering & throwing up. Bugger. Will be back in circulation soon hopefully. In the meantime, lots of love & will speak to you all soon xxx

Ahhhhh cinnamon - you poor thing Dont leave us tho'! Chat when you can? About what ever you like (even throwing up) xxxxxx Sending all our love and get well soon vibes xxxx

kat - hmmm, as mrsbigz says, i always understood that however long your cycle was, the bit of it AFTER ovulating was normaly only 14/16 days tops. And this stayed constant for most ladies. Its the bit of your cycle before o'ing that fluctuates sometimes. Person to person - month to month. (Have i got that right mrs ? lol)

sorry, pressed 'post' and hadnt finished!

And i was just going to say isnt it amazing how many of the weird thoughts going round our little heads are being shared by most of the ladies here at some time or other. Thats why its so nice to rattle your problems off here - theres always someone who empathises xxxxx

cinnamon i'm so sorry to hear that it IS a kidney infection that you have got - hope you are feeling better soon....that's the last thing you need at the moment. as misty said, please still post, even if you're feeling crappy hopefully we will be able to cheer you up a little!

flower not sure how much help i can be, but feel free to fire over any questions, will certainly do my best to answer them!!

kat hmmm yes i do think that is quite unusual tbh. in all the years (3!) i've been charting religiously the one thing i learnt quite quickly (as misty said) was that for those who had long or irregular cycles, it was the part before O that varied. the luteal phase should roughly be the same every month, give or take a couple of days. for instance, my cycles over the years have varied from about 32 - 45 days, but my luteal phase is always around 13 days long. having said all that though, you DID fall pregnant, so i'm not sure about that!?

misty and all the other ladies i hope you've had a nice day xxxxxxx

Oh cinnamon that sucks. They are so vile, I hope they have you on the right antibiotics, I found once I was on them it did go away very quickly.

misty I've been doing a bit of research and there does seem to be a consensus that it should be 44-15 or whatever the cycle length is. I know full well I didn't even have sex between days 23 and 44 of the last cycle I got pregnant during. I must be a medical freak.

On charting. When should I start? When the bleeding stops? What did you all do? Bleeding has slowed down to mostly afternoons only, touch wood. Nothing the past few nights and nothing the past couple of mornings.
(I am never going to last 6 weeks without ttc am I?!)

Managed a local supermarket today. Saw a girl I vaguely knew while I was in the queue but managed to hide as my daughter conveniently scattered raisins everywhere and then started squawking so I had to kneel down to hiss at her. I hope it stays sunny as I'm getting dependent on massive sunglasses!

Oh x posted mrsbigz. Weird isn't it, but it has definitely worked for me twice in terms of getting pregnant. I shall do more research just out of curiosity!

Oh dear, why do I never learn not to google? I'm convinced I'm an infertile medical freak now with an unheard of 23 day luteal phase...

don't panic kat!!! am sure there is a perfectly reasonable explanation!! god i would love to be able to see your previous charts!

IF you got had sex between days 18-23ish of the months you fell pregnant, then technically you wouldn't have had a luteal phase because you fell pregnant....iykwim. SO if you hadn't have fallen pregnant then, maybe you would have found you had a 35-ish day cycle? instead you were pregnant and your cycle just continued....

with regards to charting - start again whenever you want! i've only started temping again in the past few days, but have been logging other fertility signs and am pretty sure i O'd on saturday on day31 - so should be expecting AF in a week and a half. oh joy. i use an online charting website (which is great as it analyses you charts and keeps past data etc) - has been my lifeline for the past 3 years and the reason i'm so nerdy about all things charting!

btw we need to stop this x-posting thing!! LOL seems we pick the same times to come online! xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi ladies - quick one again -

kat start whenever you like i'd say. I did! The consultant who did my 13 week scan chatted with me on the phone about this (bless her she rang to see how i was after my termination) and she said:

Treat the first day after your termination as day 1 of your cycle - and work from there. She said bare in mind this first cycle may well be a funny length, but basicly the lining of your womb has been lost and will continue to empty till you're 'clean', treat it like a normal period really, for ttc purposes.

I started to chart just before my bleeding stopped, day 8 or 9 i think, so yeah .. join me and mrsbigz in a bit of obsessing over charting If nothing else its something consructive to be doing, and whatever the info is that you gather, it will be usefu/interestingl to look back at once you're on normal cycles again - that goes for all of us.

Must dash - to everyone xxxx