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To be shocked to read on reddit threads discussing andy carrol the many reports of women sexually assaulting men

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Tinkalinkalink · 27/09/2026 11:15

To think It was really sad to read so many posts where men detail unwilling sex or waking up to sex acts etc. All saying no one takes this seriously and the impact its had on them.

Is this widely known?

Do we need to be talking about women gaining consent from men more .

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/09/2026 11:42

GaIadriel · 28/09/2026 11:29

Gotta say I often find a lot of the rhetoric around this topic to be a bit disingenuous, whether intentional or just the result of people parroting second hand opinions.

Like, people are very quick to say it's "nothing to do with women" but they conveniently ignore the fact that feminists have for decades been vociferously pushing the idea that men's safety isn't something to worry about.

It's not just a case of focusing on women's safety (which is of course a personal choice and perfectly understandable for a female). In almost every discussion we have posters opining on how lucky men are to be able to walk safely at night etc.

There's dozens of threads about women's safety when out and about, and in this very thread it only took a few posts before somebody said "Most women I know still have to consider their safety on a daily basis whereas the men I know, do not ever think about it." The poster is presumably not a mind reader so she has no idea what the men she knows are actually thinking. And in reality most men don't like to admit to being scared because we've been told that 'boys don't cry' and that they must maintain a stiff upper lip and play the protector etc.

In reality, men are 4x more likely to be attacked by a stranger (going by ONS data) and make up 70% of homicide victims, whilst women are actually most at risk around people they know and in the home. So the common claim that men don't need to be worried about their safety is absolutely not true! But when this becomes the dominant narrative it's logical that it'll discourage men from wanting to speak up or take measures that might lead to them being seen as wimps.

Be careful about those stats.

Unless you know how much more often men are active and out and about in public, in places or doing activities where there's a risk of attack, you don't know whether the danger is greater because they are men, or because they are there.

If 3 women and 12 men walk home drunk, and 3 women and 6 men get attacked, are drunk men at twice the risk of drunk women, or half the risk?

OtterlyAstounding · 28/09/2026 11:59

FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/09/2026 11:42

Be careful about those stats.

Unless you know how much more often men are active and out and about in public, in places or doing activities where there's a risk of attack, you don't know whether the danger is greater because they are men, or because they are there.

If 3 women and 12 men walk home drunk, and 3 women and 6 men get attacked, are drunk men at twice the risk of drunk women, or half the risk?

Yes - men are more likely to voluntarily put themselves in risky situations that could become violent. You can see that in the way that men are more likely to be attacked or killed by strangers, and women by the men who are supposed to love or care about us - AKA, men are attacked in risky situations, while women are attacked in our own homes, where we should be safe.

Men aren't getting raped and strangled to death by their own wives. They're not being drugged by their wives and handed out to be raped by other women for over a decade. They and their sons aren't getting murdered by their wives for leaving the abusive relationship.

Not only that, but are men more likely to escalate a situation to violence, and women to fawn and de-escalate, and thus avoid violence (but possibly not sexual assault)? I think so.

Error404FucksNotFound · 28/09/2026 12:24

HeNeedsRehab · 27/09/2026 14:00

So women have to take responsibility for themselves and make sure they don’t wear revealing clothes or drink too much.

And now we have to take responsibility for the tiny minority of women who SA men?

So what are the men doing?

Sweet FA. As usual

GaIadriel · 28/09/2026 12:33

GaIadriel · 28/09/2026 11:29

Gotta say I often find a lot of the rhetoric around this topic to be a bit disingenuous, whether intentional or just the result of people parroting second hand opinions.

Like, people are very quick to say it's "nothing to do with women" but they conveniently ignore the fact that feminists have for decades been vociferously pushing the idea that men's safety isn't something to worry about.

It's not just a case of focusing on women's safety (which is of course a personal choice and perfectly understandable for a female). In almost every discussion we have posters opining on how lucky men are to be able to walk safely at night etc.

There's dozens of threads about women's safety when out and about, and in this very thread it only took a few posts before somebody said "Most women I know still have to consider their safety on a daily basis whereas the men I know, do not ever think about it." The poster is presumably not a mind reader so she has no idea what the men she knows are actually thinking. And in reality most men don't like to admit to being scared because we've been told that 'boys don't cry' and that they must maintain a stiff upper lip and play the protector etc.

In reality, men are 4x more likely to be attacked by a stranger (going by ONS data) and make up 70% of homicide victims, whilst women are actually most at risk around people they know and in the home. So the common claim that men don't need to be worried about their safety is absolutely not true! But when this becomes the dominant narrative it's logical that it'll discourage men from wanting to speak up or take measures that might lead to them being seen as wimps.

To add to this, another thing I've often seen claimed on here is that men put themselves in risky situations by not avoiding unsafe places like women do - rowdy pubs etc. However, the other way around this would be seen as victim blaming.

There have also been quite a few cases where men were killed by intervening with best intentions. Like that middle aged Land Rover worker who was fatally stabbed by some 14yo boys. They'd been pissing on the toilet floor and banging on doors. He told them to pack it in and they stabbed him when he went outside.

This is an example of a case where people on here might say he'd voluntarily put himself in danger, but many of the same people would also say that men need to challenge toxic masculinity in their fellow men. However, if even 14yo kids pose a risk to one's life then how can men go about this without putting themselves at risk? It's somewhat mixed messaging.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/09/2026 12:43

GaIadriel · 28/09/2026 12:33

To add to this, another thing I've often seen claimed on here is that men put themselves in risky situations by not avoiding unsafe places like women do - rowdy pubs etc. However, the other way around this would be seen as victim blaming.

There have also been quite a few cases where men were killed by intervening with best intentions. Like that middle aged Land Rover worker who was fatally stabbed by some 14yo boys. They'd been pissing on the toilet floor and banging on doors. He told them to pack it in and they stabbed him when he went outside.

This is an example of a case where people on here might say he'd voluntarily put himself in danger, but many of the same people would also say that men need to challenge toxic masculinity in their fellow men. However, if even 14yo kids pose a risk to one's life then how can men go about this without putting themselves at risk? It's somewhat mixed messaging.

Disingenuous.

Understanding the risk profile for men and women is different because the social freedom and expectations of men and women are different is not blaming anyone, it's essential in making sure solutions are targeting the actual problem.

GaIadriel · 28/09/2026 13:28

GaIadriel · 28/09/2026 12:33

To add to this, another thing I've often seen claimed on here is that men put themselves in risky situations by not avoiding unsafe places like women do - rowdy pubs etc. However, the other way around this would be seen as victim blaming.

There have also been quite a few cases where men were killed by intervening with best intentions. Like that middle aged Land Rover worker who was fatally stabbed by some 14yo boys. They'd been pissing on the toilet floor and banging on doors. He told them to pack it in and they stabbed him when he went outside.

This is an example of a case where people on here might say he'd voluntarily put himself in danger, but many of the same people would also say that men need to challenge toxic masculinity in their fellow men. However, if even 14yo kids pose a risk to one's life then how can men go about this without putting themselves at risk? It's somewhat mixed messaging.

I hadn't actually read the replies to my previous post when I typed this as I'm doing it between working, but I predicted the responses pretty well lol.

I agree that we can't just take statistics at face value, but I do also notice that a lot of people only start nitpicking about the data when they don't like what it says - not directing that at anybody in particular, more a general observation.

One example would be the study posters were using to claim that 'the majority of men would commit rape if they could get away with it'. I was a bit sceptical as I found it hard to believe most men would admit as much even if it were true. So I did a bit of digging and turns out it was a study of 50 high school students from a single college. So nowhere near a big enough sample size to make sweeping statements about men as a group, and no diversity in age/nationality/education/etc.

Furthermore, there were claims that the college had awarded course credits for participating which would've been a possible conflict of interest. It's defo not inconceivable that teenage boys would've just done rhe survey for the points and given silly answers for shits and giggles.

Kestonlodge · 28/09/2026 14:42

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 07:21

Nothing. She was told to stop and it was just before summer so just came back in the new term like nothing happened. I know he tended to avoid her but they were in the same year with mutual friends so he couldn't entirely.

Who “just told her to stop”?

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 14:47

Kestonlodge · 28/09/2026 14:42

Who “just told her to stop”?

School said not to try and contact him again at a meeting with her and her parents and at another meeting with her, my son and a senior teacher. We weren't allowed to have a meeting with me, her parents, and our respective kids.

Kestonlodge · 28/09/2026 14:53

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 14:47

School said not to try and contact him again at a meeting with her and her parents and at another meeting with her, my son and a senior teacher. We weren't allowed to have a meeting with me, her parents, and our respective kids.

So the school forbade your attending but allowed the girl’s parents to accompany her?

Agrumpyknitter · 28/09/2026 15:04

Tinkalinkalink · 27/09/2026 11:39

I think even if its tiny, and we dont know that, women should be having the conversation. That doesnt make us collectively responsible, surely

Do you not think that when mothers or fathers talk to their daughters about consent and how it matters that they don’t feel uncomfortable or pressured into doing something they don’t want to, that we are also telling them that it works both ways? That consent isn’t just one sided.

The problem is that rape is practically legal in this country. The low conviction rates point to this. Look at the US and the Cornell university male students who gang raped a young woman and advertised it as happening. You would expect that they were all charged, well no they haven’t been. And none of these men were immigrants, they all seemed very normal men.

Attitudes to sexual consent need to change.

GaIadriel · 28/09/2026 15:18

Not only that, but are men more likely to escalate a situation to violence, and women to fawn and de-escalate, and thus avoid violence (but possibly not sexual assault)? I think so.

And yet the largest DV metastudy to date found that despite men causing more death and serious injury (as you'd expect given the size/strength disparity) women actually perpetrate more DV. This wasn't a study of 50 high school students, it was conducted by over 100 academics from 20 universities in UK/US/Canada working alongside DV organisations and experts.

They read over 10,000 studies and closely analysed 1200 of the peer reviewed studies to ensure that poor methodology wasn't affecting the outcome. Predictably the usual suspects on here were moaning about the quality of the data, including those that had tried to make sweeping claims about men based on a non peer reviewed study of 50 teenagers.

There's also a fair few studies evidencing that around 70% of one-sided DV cases are female perpetrated, despite the majority of DV being bidirectional. It's only really crime stats that consistently show a huge gap in perpetration between the sexes and there are literally dozens of studies over the last 50 years showing perpetration to be very close between the sexes.

Nobody really knows why this is for sure but a lot of charities have done research concluding that men report DV much less than women - often for fear of losing access to their kids, feeling 'emasculated', and historically because there just wasn't any help avaliable to them. Mankind have some research on their website and they state that the majority of callers state that they wouldn't have called in had it not been anonymous. Also that by their estimates men are 2.5x less likely to officially report DV. This could explain the disparity between crime stats and the bulk of other studies, and why in some studies the number of women admitting to having attacked their partners outnumbers the amount of men who'll admit to being a victim ( you'd expect the numbers to more or less match).

Either way, it never strikes me as a sign of good faith that feminists are so hostile towards discussing this stuff. I honestly think a lot of feminists and woke types just use it as a vehicle to lecture people from a position that's hard to argue against without being seen as a bigot. This is definitely evident in the trans and immigration debates where so many women are quick to throw other women under the bus rather than go against the current woke doctrine. Feminists can be just as bad if you engage in wrongthink or dare to question any part of the dogma.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/09/2026 15:54

GaIadriel · 28/09/2026 15:18

Not only that, but are men more likely to escalate a situation to violence, and women to fawn and de-escalate, and thus avoid violence (but possibly not sexual assault)? I think so.

And yet the largest DV metastudy to date found that despite men causing more death and serious injury (as you'd expect given the size/strength disparity) women actually perpetrate more DV. This wasn't a study of 50 high school students, it was conducted by over 100 academics from 20 universities in UK/US/Canada working alongside DV organisations and experts.

They read over 10,000 studies and closely analysed 1200 of the peer reviewed studies to ensure that poor methodology wasn't affecting the outcome. Predictably the usual suspects on here were moaning about the quality of the data, including those that had tried to make sweeping claims about men based on a non peer reviewed study of 50 teenagers.

There's also a fair few studies evidencing that around 70% of one-sided DV cases are female perpetrated, despite the majority of DV being bidirectional. It's only really crime stats that consistently show a huge gap in perpetration between the sexes and there are literally dozens of studies over the last 50 years showing perpetration to be very close between the sexes.

Nobody really knows why this is for sure but a lot of charities have done research concluding that men report DV much less than women - often for fear of losing access to their kids, feeling 'emasculated', and historically because there just wasn't any help avaliable to them. Mankind have some research on their website and they state that the majority of callers state that they wouldn't have called in had it not been anonymous. Also that by their estimates men are 2.5x less likely to officially report DV. This could explain the disparity between crime stats and the bulk of other studies, and why in some studies the number of women admitting to having attacked their partners outnumbers the amount of men who'll admit to being a victim ( you'd expect the numbers to more or less match).

Either way, it never strikes me as a sign of good faith that feminists are so hostile towards discussing this stuff. I honestly think a lot of feminists and woke types just use it as a vehicle to lecture people from a position that's hard to argue against without being seen as a bigot. This is definitely evident in the trans and immigration debates where so many women are quick to throw other women under the bus rather than go against the current woke doctrine. Feminists can be just as bad if you engage in wrongthink or dare to question any part of the dogma.

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Sorry for the AI dump but without links it seemed the best way to assess this.

My prompt: I have been told this:
And yet the largest DV metastudy to date found that despite men causing more death and serious injury (as you'd expect given the size/strength disparity) women actually perpetrate more DV. This wasn't a study of 50 high school students, it was conducted by over 100 academics from 20 universities in UK/US/Canada working alongside DV organisations and experts.
Find the original research and assess whether this is a fair summary

Resonse:

The claim appears to refer to the Partner Abuse State of Knowledge (PASK) project, especially a 2012 systematic review by Sarah Desmarais and colleagues. The numbers quoted about women perpetrating more physical IPV are real, but the statement you've been given compresses several different findings into a stronger conclusion than the research warrants.

What the research actually was

PASK was a very large evidence-synthesis project initiated by the journal Partner Abuse. The original project involved 42 scholars plus about 70 research assistants at 20 universities/research institutions, who considered roughly 12,000 studies and summarized more than 1,700 peer-reviewed studies across 17 review papers. So the description of a large, multi-university research effort is substantially correct—although "over 100 academics" counts research assistants as well as scholars, and I haven't found support for the claim that all were academics or that DV organisations were co-investigators.

The project itself is here:

[Partner Abuse State of Knowledge Project (PASK)](domesticviolenceresearch.org/?utm_source=chatgpt.com)

The particularly relevant original paper is:

Desmarais, Reeves, Nicholls, Telford & Fiebert (2012), "Prevalence of Physical Violence in Intimate Relationships, Part 2: Rates of Male and Female Perpetration", Partner Abuse, 3(2), 170–198, DOI 10.1891/1946-6560.3.2.170.

That review covered 111 studies. Crucially, 95 (85.6%) were US studies, and 81 (73%) used a Conflict Tactics Scale-type measure.

Did it find that women perpetrate more DV?

For the particular thing it measured—self-reported acts of physical intimate-partner violence—yes, slightly.

The pooled estimates were:

Measure Women Men

Reported perpetrating physical IPV 28.3% 21.6%

The authors describe this as pooled prevalence being "slightly greater" for female than male perpetration. They also found enormous variation between individual studies: roughly 2.4–68.9% for women and 1.0–61.6% for men, reflecting very different populations, definitions and time periods.

So saying:

> "The review found a higher prevalence of reported physical IPV perpetration among women than men."

is accurate.

Saying:

> "Women perpetrate more domestic violence."

is considerably more problematic.

Why that distinction matters

The underlying measure generally counts acts of physical aggression, rather than treating every incident according to its severity, motivation, context or consequences.

For example, Conflict Tactics Scale-type research asks about behaviours such as pushing, slapping, kicking, punching or using an object. That methodology is deliberately useful for detecting violence that may never reach police, shelters or hospitals—but simply counting acts doesn't by itself tell you whether violence involved coercive control, fear, self-defence, repeated battering, injury, sexual violence, etc.

This methodological issue is important enough that an earlier major meta-analysis by John Archer reached a remarkably similar result: women were slightly more likely to commit physical aggression, but men were more likely to cause injury. Archer also found that results shifted according to the population being studied, with younger dating samples producing results further in the female-perpetration direction.

And the PASK research itself does not conclude that every dimension of DV is female-dominated. For example, its review of consequences found that both sexes suffer significant consequences but that physical and psychological consequences were generally greater for female victims.

Sexual violence and stalking are also substantially gender-asymmetric in the opposite direction. PASK's own summaries report substantially more female victimisation in those categories.

What about "men causing more death and serious injury"?

The broad point is correct, but "as you'd expect given the size/strength disparity" is an explanation added by whoever wrote the statement, rather than the central finding of the prevalence review.

There is strong evidence that female victims suffer greater physical consequences. A review of research on women's violence notes that surveys often find broadly similar rates of physical aggression while women are considerably more likely to be injured, need medical attention, and incur more serious injury costs.

Archer's meta-analysis quantified the distinction particularly neatly:

Women were slightly more likely to use physical aggression (effect size d = −.05), but men were more likely to cause injury (d = .15); 62% of injured partners were women.

Current US national surveillance also shows much greater female victimisation when severity is taken into account. The CDC's 2023/24 NISVS estimates lifetime physical IPV victimisation at 22.5% of women versus 13.7% of men, and severe physical IPV at 18.2% versus 8.6% respectively.

Those CDC numbers aren't directly comparable with the PASK perpetration figures—the populations, questions and methodology differ—but they illustrate why "who commits more DV?" doesn't have a single answer independent of how DV is defined.

There's another important PASK finding: bidirectional violence

This is probably the most frequently lost part of this debate.

A separate PASK review examined 48 studies specifically looking at whether IPV was unilateral or reciprocal/bidirectional.

A substantial proportion of physical IPV occurs in relationships in which both partners use violence, rather than fitting neatly into "male perpetrator/female victim" or "female perpetrator/male victim" categories. That makes comparisons of individual male and female perpetration rates surprisingly easy to misinterpret: the female perpetrators and male perpetrators being counted aren't necessarily attacking entirely different groups of people.

So a finding that, say, 28% of women and 22% of men report having committed a violent act doesn't imply that 28% of relationships contain violent women attacking nonviolent men.

One more caveat: it isn't really a single "metastudy"

Calling PASK "the largest DV metastudy" is colloquial rather than technically precise.

It is better described as a large coordinated state-of-knowledge project consisting of multiple systematic/comprehensive reviews. The 28.3% versus 21.6% result comes specifically from the Desmarais et al. review of 111 studies. The estimates were unweighted pooled prevalence estimates, rather than a conventional meta-analysis weighting studies statistically by sample size/precision.

That's an important methodological qualification. A study of 400 people and one of 20,000 don't simply contribute evidence in the same way in a conventional meta-analysis.

My assessment of the statement you were given

I'd break it down like this:

Claim What the evidence says

"largest DV metastudy to date" Broadly based on something real, but imprecise. PASK describes itself as the largest published IPV research database; it's a programme of reviews, not one giant meta-analysis.
"over 100 academics" Misleading wording. Original PASK = 42 scholars + ~70 research assistants.
"20 universities in UK/US/Canada" Broadly correct regarding the original project's institutions/geography.
"women actually perpetrate more DV" Too broad. The relevant review found higher pooled self-reported prevalence of physical IPV acts by women: 28.3% vs 21.6%.
"men cause more serious injury" Supported. Serious consequences of physical IPV disproportionately fall on women.
"because of size/strength disparity" Plausible and discussed in the literature, but it shouldn't be presented as what this prevalence study demonstrated.
Overall implication that DV is predominantly committed by women Not supported. The literature shows approximate gender symmetry or modest female excess for some measures of physical acts, alongside substantially greater female victimisation for serious physical violence, injury, sexual IPV and stalking.

So there is a genuine and important research finding underneath the claim. It isn't an internet myth: large reviews really have found women reporting as much or somewhat more use of physical aggression against intimate partners than men.

But the defensible conclusion is closer to:

> Large reviews of survey research have found that women report perpetrating individual acts of physical IPV at rates similar to, and in some analyses somewhat higher than, men. However, this does not mean women perpetrate "more domestic violence" overall: sex differences depend strongly on how IPV is defined and measured, and women experience substantially more serious injury and severe physical and sexual victimisation. Much IPV is also bidirectional.

That preserves what is genuinely surprising about the PASK finding without turning a fairly specific prevalence result into a much broader claim that the research doesn't establish.

One potentially useful next step would be to look closely at the 111-study Desmarais review itself—particularly how the 28.3%/21.6% figures were constructed and what happens when student/dating samples, severity and representative population samples are separated out. That's where I'd look if you want to know whether the headline difference is genuinely robust or partly an artefact of the studies included.

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GaIadriel · 28/09/2026 16:12

The authors of the metastudy I mentioned actually did a big update this year, analysing 25,000 new studies from the past decade in order to see if the results were consistent with previous findings.

The Partner Abuse State of Knowledge Project (PASK) 2025–2026 Update provides a comprehensive 10-year review of intimate partner violence (IPV) research, analyzing over 25,000 recent journal articles across multiple special issues of the peer-reviewed journal Partner Abuse.

Project Overview and Scope

Core Mission: Directed by dozens of international family violence scholars, PASK synthesizes empirical evidence on intimate partner violence to offer transparent, data-driven insights free from political fragmentation.

The 2025–2026 Update: Extends the foundational 2012–2013 database by incorporating a decade of new literature covering prevalence, risk factors, motivations, and treatment outcomes.

2025–2026 Update strongly reinforces the gender symmetry model of family violence, demonstrating that men and women perpetrate partner abuse at comparable rates.

By analyzing over a decade of updated global literature, the synthesis challenges traditional paradigms that frame intimate partner violence (IPV) strictly as a male-on-female crime.

1. Perpetration and Initiation Rates

Comparable Prevalence: Data shows that overall IPV perpetration rates remain highly similar between genders. In large, pooled industrialized samples, female perpetration was tracked at 28.3% and male perpetration at 21.6%, proving that women initiate and engage in physical aggression as frequently as men do.

Bidirectionality (Mutual Abuse): The majority of recorded IPV is bidirectional, meaning both partners engage in abusive behaviors against each other.

Equal Initiation: The update confirms that men and women initiate physical violence at nearly equal rates, meaning women are not simply acting in self-defense in the majority of recorded instances.2. Emotional and Psychological AbuseSymmetrical Control: The incident rates of psychological abuse, emotional abuse, and coercive control are roughly equal between men and women.

Dominance Factors: Interestingly, cross-country dating data included in the update revealed that female dominance scores heavily predicted female IPV perpetration, whereas male dominance scores were significantly less predictive of male IPV.

^https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/^

Domestic Violence Research – PARTNER ABUSE STATE OF KNOWLEDGE PROJECT (PASK): The world's largest domestic violence research data base, 2,657 pages, with summaries of 1700 peer-reviewed studies.

https://domesticviolenceresearch.org

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 16:15

I think we need to reach a consensus on here about whether AI is robust enough. It all seems very inconsistent as to when it is accepted as evidence for an argument.

Carohever · 28/09/2026 16:20

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/09/2026 16:25

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Usually I don't but I'm working right now.

Mainly I wanted to find the actual study and get an assessment as to whether it was being fairly summarised.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/09/2026 16:30

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 16:15

I think we need to reach a consensus on here about whether AI is robust enough. It all seems very inconsistent as to when it is accepted as evidence for an argument.

It was supposed to be informational. I don't need AI to construct my arguments. Frankly, I do a better job.

For context, I work with AI professionally so I understand its limitations. I guess I tend to assume others will as well. I take your point though that maybe I shouldn't assume that.

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I don’t think even the people who post AI dumps read it.

seahorsessky · 28/09/2026 16:41

It is a bit unreasonable not to know-domestic violence charities have been talking about abuse of men by women for years. The stereotype used to be women did mental cruelty rather than sexual abuse (we all know the evil stepmother/sister trope from Cinderella), but maybe it's not talked about enough. When my mum was attacked on the streets, it really annoyed me how many people assumed it was males-despite the police worker saying all the attacks in this situation had involved female perpetrators!

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GaIadriel · 28/09/2026 17:16

I'd say that in this instance the AI summary was pretty accurate. Certainly enough to give an overview. Ultimately, I don't think we can definitively say that either sex is massively over-represented in DV perpetration rates. The problem is that a lot of feminists are making that claim.

I'm not really on 'a side'. I just don't understand people that are happy to make serious accusations against an entire demographic (half the population) without seemingly being bothered whether they're actually right.

Lexibletheflexible · 28/09/2026 20:01

Kestonlodge · 28/09/2026 14:53

So the school forbade your attending but allowed the girl’s parents to accompany her?

I had a meeting about it with my son and staff. There was a meeting with just the kids. And there was a meeting with her and her parents. "Stop contacting him" was instructed at all meetings she attended.

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